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Re: Charmbracelet at 15 (79,645) (79,647) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Butterfly, Charmbracelet and Memoirs are her most lyrically superior albums IMO. She has master lyrics on all three of these albums. (Monday 4 December 2017; 22:45)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,642) (79,646) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Interesting re: Justin not wanting to be associated with Mariah at the time. Justin has been one shady b*tch towards a few of music's female legends. He throws Janet under the bus and blames her for nipplegate at the Superbowl (which we know changed the trajectory of her career forever). Despite Mariah reigning supreme for 10 solid years prior, he thinks after she has one bad year, he's too good for her, and of course we all know how he threw all of his and Britney's laundry on the public line, and blamed her for their break up. Tisk tisk JT, never underestimate women's power. (Monday 4 December 2017; 22:30)

Re: Charmbracelet at 15 (79,644) (79,645) by Bill from the UK Haha. Just my thoughts. I don't think any other albums of hers paint pictures with the lyrics that way Butterfly and CB do. (Monday 4 December 2017; 22:21)

Re: Charmbracelet at 15 (79,641) (79,644) by Special K from USA Whoa, you really think Charmbracelet is up there lyrically with Butterfly? Boy please. Leave the faded juice alone. (Monday 4 December 2017; 21:12)

London 02 concert December 11th (79,643) by Anonymous from Has anyone received tickets for the show yet via Ticketmaster? Thanks. (Monday 4 December 2017; 21:09)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,627) (79,642) by MusicfanJ from Germany I would also like to hear the "Yours" version with JT. But I remember the same thing like Licia said. At that time, Justin didn't want to release/promote the song as a featuring guest because Mariah seemed not so "hip" after the Glitter thing. Oh "little" Justin was so wrong with this decision, not nice from him. So I understand while Mariah ruled the charts with TEOM again, she didn't feel the need to release the version. Charmbracelet will always be a special album for me. The often mentioned lyrics are pure Mariah, they are so poetic. "Lullaby", "Yours", "I only wanted", "Clown" and "Bringin' on the heartbreak" are my favorites. And I love the message of "Trough the rain". (Monday 4 December 2017; 20:32)

Re: Charmbracelet at 15 (79,637) (79,641) by Bill from the UK At the time the whispering was annoying. I remember on first listen getting about two thirds through the album and getting very hacked off. That had never happened previously (or since). As the years have dragged by, I now appreciate it on a different level. Lyrically it is up there with Butterfly. It’s got some duds like Boy and some filler, but on the main it’s a good cohesive body of work. (Monday 4 December 2017; 20:26)

Lipped "Star" performance? (79,640) by Chicago Lamb from USA Did some negative [censored] here claim Mariah lipped her performance of "The Star" during Beacon's opening night? Receipts say otherwise (webmaster please hyperlink). (Monday 4 December 2017; 19:32)

Re: Lila have you been living under a rock? (79,633) (79,639) by Hilton from USA Sometimes it's better to just focus on the music. That's all I'm gonna say. All the added stuff outside of the music mixed in with opinions most of the time gets to this. It's the holiday season. She looks great, she's sounding good and she looks super happy. Can we say amen to that? (Monday 4 December 2017; 19:16)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,627) (79,638) by B from USA I read somewhere that Justin or his team suggested Yours be included on the reissue of TEOM and Mariah politely declined. (Monday 4 December 2017; 17:23)

Re: Charmbracelet at 15 (79,631) (79,637) by B from USA Charmbracelet would have done better if she had actually sang instead of whispered. The One, I Only Wanted, My Saving Grace, Lullaby, You Had Your Chance, Subtle Invitation, Clown, and Sunflowers are some of her best songs. Your story is similar to my friend Patty's. Charmbracelet is her favorite Mariah album and was her first Mariah album. (Monday 4 December 2017; 17:14)

Re: Beacon / first show (79,635) (79,636) by B from USA I think she did cool sculpting which is an FDA-approved non-surgical fat reduction treatment. Plus she's exercising and rehearsing. She looks amazing. She hasn't looked this good since 2008 or 2013. (Monday 4 December 2017; 17:07)

Re: Beacon / first show (79,622) (79,635) by Lila from United States She did look good and I agree if it's working for her then I'm happy for her. I've noticed that many yo-yo dieters, at the end of their rope, tend to go for weight loss surgery as a final resort. Weight loss is mentally challenging for anyone but I also think there's a portion of people where it's extra hard and they need the extra help. Watching all of these weight loss surgeries over the years it always seems like there's a lot of emotion and psychology underlying it all. (Monday 4 December 2017; 14:58)

Mariah and the Christmas tree (79,634) by MusicfanJ from Germany Come on, how sweet is this? Mariah looks so good, the new pics posted on instagram are just beautiful. MC with the decorated Christmas tree, she's shining again. (Monday 4 December 2017; 14:19)

Re: Lila have you been living under a rock? (79,626) (79,633) by Lila from United States Making a fool of yourself jumping to conclusions that have nothing to do with someone's post is called receipts these days? I didn't know. Thanks for the notice. Not surprised to see the age old bitter reference. Always an easy go to. Nice to see it's still alive and kicking. (Monday 4 December 2017; 14:11)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,621) (79,632) by Terna from Nigeria I agree this era was very pivotal to "The Emancipation Of Mimi" era, this was the time Mariah took a step back, and reassessed everything, plans were made in this time on how she was gonna take back that no. 1 spot. She also started caring for her instrument more and it showed. If I'm not mistaken the term "lamb" was coined in this era for her cult following. And we each have a charmbracelet to prove it so to speak - the album. Lol. (Monday 4 December 2017; 12:58)

Charmbracelet at 15 (79,631) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines As grating as her whispery vocal delivery may be here at times, I will still have a special place in my heart for Charmbracelet because it was the first Mariah album I ever owned (in cassette back then). Unlike most of the world, Through The Rain was a massive hit here in the Philippines - it was like Hero for the 2000s and it was sung in every Sunday noontime variety show as well as all the popular local singing contests. Such success even spilled over to Boy (I Need You), which was also a sizeable hit in our country at the time. Even I Only Wanted got more airplay than Bringin' on the Heartbreak. Some songs on Charmbracelet are always gonna make me hit "repeat". TTR is still uplifting. Boy (INY) reminds us of a time when Mariah still was imaginative with her videos. Yours features perhaps Mariah's most meandering melody. IOW is still the perfect third chapter to her Latin-tinged saga of longing (My All and After Tonight, parts 1 and 2 respectively). Something about You Had Your Chance's melodic hook will always sound Cantopop-inspired to me. Lullaby is the sequel to The Roof, but sonically is the yin to that song's yang. Subtle Invitation is probably one of the classiest Mariah has ever sounded, even when she lets loose towards the end. Bonus track There Goes My Heart has a sweet, tropical vibe that Mariah has yet to employ again in any of her recordings since. And outtake Miss You never fails to get me going with its complicated chorus. A lot of people can be quite dismissive of the album. As a package, Charmbracelet is the amalgam of whatever Mariah wanted to get out of her system post-Glitter, that has primed her for one of the most impressive comebacks in pop music history. That's its significance in her discography. It humanized her. (Monday 4 December 2017; 11:18)

Re: Lila have you been living under a rock? (79,623) (79,630) by Lila from United States Nowhere in my post did I say that Mariah doesn't work. It can't even be implied or inferred. That's something you 100% made up in your mind. I know exactly what Mariah did last year professionally and that still doesn't refute the fact that she also spent 2016 doing a lot of vacationing (not that my post was knocking her for that, anyway) or that every year she goes on vacation and if she were so in a hurry to see the world would dedicate some of those trips to it regardless of their so-called people oriented occupation. Mariah as a private person is a laugh as of three years ago. If she were seeing the world privately it would make zero sense for her to say that she hasn't seen the world due to work. A man or woman saying that they haven't seen the world due to work obligations is not a run of the mill quote or blurb. (Monday 4 December 2017; 05:42)

Re: Beacon / first show (79,622) (79,629) by Shezz from Pk We have seen Mariah's weight yoyo since 2000. She keeps getting in shape every 12-15 months. How is everyone convinced that this time it is a surgery because a tabloid reported it? Am I missing some confirmation here? (Monday 4 December 2017; 03:10)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,621) (79,628) by Mike from FL, USA I love Charmbracelet. My favorite is The One, mainly because of this live version. I also love Clown. Subtle Invitation is one of my all time faves. (Monday 4 December 2017; 02:55)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,625) (79,627) by Licia from USA That version with JT got blocked by JT and his label because Mariah wasn't deemed relevant at that time. I heard he wanted it released after TEOM was released because she was back in top then. I don't know how true that is because it didn't make sense to release it then. (Monday 4 December 2017; 01:38)

Re: Lila have you been living under a rock? (79,623) (79,626) by Billy from Greece Nikki, I really love when you answer back with receipts, in the most substantiated way possible, especially to posters that are just plain judgmental, bitter and self-righteous. (Monday 4 December 2017; 01:18)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,621) (79,625) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Wow. Fifteen years since Charmbracelet. This is a very special album to me too, Billy. Charmbracelet was when I truly became a Lamb. I was so impressed with how she recovered from her breakdown after the press had completely turned on her, seeing tabloid headlines everywhere like "Mariah's meltdown", "Batty Mariah looses her mind", "No more rainbows in Mariah's sky" etc. etc. She came back so confident exploring a new sound with her music. She didn't do what people expected musically, and I found that liberating and empowering. I agree with you, this is when Mariah developed her cult following, and solidified her legion of true Lambs. My favourite tracks are: You Got Me, I Only Wanted, Clown, Subtle Invitation and Bringing on The Heartbreak (her best remake of a song IMO). Has anyone ever heard the version of "Yours" she recorded with Justin Timberlake? I've always heard rumours of this version, but have never got to hear it. (Sunday 3 December 2017; 23:58)

Re: "Charmbracelet" anniversary (79,621) (79,624) by Licia from USA My goodness so many things I could say about this album that I've already said many many times before. Lol Billy you pretty much summed it up. Vocally this album isn't a favorite for many fans, but lyrically she kills it. I feel every word of this album. (Sunday 3 December 2017; 23:43)

Lila have you been living under a rock? (79,623) by Nikki from usa 2016 alone saw Mariah doing a 5 month residency, a world tour, documenting her life, an entire cosmetics line with Mac, headlining 3 shows, her annual Christmas concerts and cutting her Christmas vacation with her kids short to do NYE. She was also featured in the movie Girls Trip. It's mighty pompous to assume she's not working simply because you don't have paparazzi pictures of it or she's not in your area. There's also a difference between taking a vacation on an island to get away from everyone for downtime when you live in a people oriented occupation and traveling for leisure for the fun of it. She did a lot of work with the Dead Sea cosmetics line, touring, creating movies, new music, and doing a lot of behind the scenes deals this year. Mariah's a private person. You're not going to be kept up to date on what she's doing with her kids or real private time other than the usual run of the mill media quotes and blurbs she wants you to know. (Sunday 3 December 2017; 23:24)

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