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Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,878) (75,885) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Although it frustrates me to no end that Mariah seems to have completely dropped promoting anything (especially after hyping it up before the release only to never speak of it again), I think I can still take that over the phony reality TV star drama that has been going on since the last 2 years. I mean fine, if she just wants to release stuff without caring how it does on the charts, it's up to her. Yes, we as fans will always want her to get one more hit era especially after the blow her image and career has received recently, but if Mariah says she's fine with releasing stuff without caring about the charts, I'm cool with it, but don't give us missed signals. Like you say you don't care, but yet you are going out of your way to risk all that you have achieved by acting like a budding reality star, "to stay relevant" is just confusing and doesn't make sense to me. Why drum up unnecessary publicity? Especially stuff that is so blatantly fake that no one, absolutely no one buys it anymore. The Tanaka angle, come on, really? Ever since Stella came on board, it's like Mariah can't stay single for a second. We get the Packer drama, even before that ended, we get the Tanaka drama. Before that even left the cooker, we immediately get bombarded with photos of Nick and Mariah going out to eat every single day, and stories about how they are back. Then suddenly Tanaka is back and Nick has completely disappeared. Stella for all the "empower women" bullshit you keep talking about, why are you making Mariah seem like she can't stay a second without a man? Mariah why are you going through with this? And who on earth goes out to eat every night all decked up, to known paparazzi infested places? You all gotta decide what you really want. Don't ruin your legacy to appeal to teens, who at the end of the day won't really buy music until it appeals to their taste. At this rate, it seems like Stella has left the Kardashian route and is instead taking the Bella Thorne route. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 19:04)

Martyn on Wendy (75,884) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I'm sorry if this has been posted here before me, but Wendy had a minute long segment on her show about Martyn. As we know, Martyn was supposed to be in the US right about now and he booked tickets on the Wendy show for 2 consecutive days. Wendy kept a seat for him in his honor and contacted his friend to let her know that she's honoring him. She spoke a little about him. It was sweet and a gesture he would appreciate. Martyn, gone, but not forgotten. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 18:59)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,837) (75,883) by Lannister from USA Forget the personal beef/argument - not interested in that. But on the substance, I don't understand what you're upset about. On the album front he posted the following yesterday: "It's not even June. Plenty of time to finish it in the lab. I think you guys misinterpreted my earlier tweet" and "Recall she used to put an album out every year for a long time. It doesn't take 6 months to record an album. She already has a handful started." So perhaps it's both true that she has a few songs she's currently working on/are done and she plans on finishing/putting out an album this year. On the relationship front, he doubled down last night on it and I read it a little differently than you did. He said "whomever said it or leaked it spoke out of turn". Perhaps that was a subtle shot at the leaker and there's more to the story than we know? (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 18:35)

The stars are out (except one?) (75,882) by Andrew from UK So almost everyone, it seems, is signing up for Ariana's charity gig. Where is Mariah's name? She could even do a somber duet with Martyn's friend on TTEOT. It's obviously of her own volition. But if she didn't go, having nothing on, I'd probably think less of her. In fact, that might even just be *it*. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 17:30)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,870) (75,881) by Lila from United States I'll just have my own personal D-Day lol. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 16:21)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,875) (75,880) by Lila from United States I see the jackass is back to make an ass of himself again. That's another thing about the nature of jackasses, they never tire of making asses of themselves. Here we go, anyway. I don't give a rats ass how many A's you received in English. They're obviously not helping you comprehend what I said in my post. You took one sentence out of context and are now trying to make it mean something that it doesn't. As for the rest of your post, again you tried to bring me down. Again, you didn't succeed. It's honestly hilarious. I have no life and I'm spreading hate because I take 5 minutes, if that, out of the roughly 1440 minutes available in one day to give a view point that you don't like or agree with? I'm hiding behind a Mariah icon? I'm always bewildered by how people like you don't get how stupid they sound when they say things like this. Those are such pathetic conclusions but I'm not surprised. I already know that when someone can't refute what the other person is saying, with logic or reasonable evidence to back them up, they go to the childish place. I know I'm not hateful nor do I spread it or will ever be consumed by it but it's quite obvious that you're already consumed by stupidity and no amount of A's can erase that. Still, I want to thank you so much for caring so much about my posts. I feel kind of bad, actually. You're so pressed about my posts and I, on the other hand, scroll right the [censored] on by yours when I see your username because I already know that they're not worth reading. Which, after this post, I will continue to do. Bye clown. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 16:14)

Merry Christmas II You (75,879) by Edward from USA It's impressive how Mariah was more focus on music while going through a high-risk pregnancy. MCIIY was a great album, her voice improved tremendously, recovering some of that buttery tone she had lost in the 90's. I was like: This woman is about to give birth(so dramatic) on stage while singing "One Child" at "Christmas in Washington 2010" and on top of that with her very own set of polyps and nodules, yet she gave us a great performance. That's the Mariah most of us fell in love with, the Mariah that put together a song like "One Child" and delivers it with conviction and mastery. That's why I don't understand how after "Almost Home", "100%" and "One Child", she could come with "I Didn't" and "Oh no, I Didn't" remix and expect people to take her seriously. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 16:07)

Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,876) (75,878) by Edward from USA When "Obsessed" was released the music industry was definitely morphing into something completely different from what we had experienced, but Mariah seemed focus on promotion and serious about her music. Somewhere along the way after "Angel's Advocate" was shelved, she lost interest. It seemed to be that her muse or love for music wasn't there anymore. Yes, she's always said music is her passion, but it keeps looking like she's only saying it and not acting on it. Did she run out of things to sing about or did she hit a creative wall? Maybe, it happens to people, and she's only human, but I rather she takes her time to create great music than putting something out thinking her name would be enough for it to successful when she's not relevant like that anymore. I would actually be happy if she came with a great album in a couple of years, and not an album full of mediocre music that would look like a stain in her impressive catalogue. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 15:26)

Re: Message from Martyn's mom (75,869) (75,877) by Edward from USA It was definitely beautiful. When Martyn posted how his heart was breaking because his mother hadn't sold anything at that fair, it also broke my heart and I understood how much they really loved each other. She must be proud Martyn had so many people who genuinely loved him. If he's watching from anywhere, he must be proud and happy. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 14:47)

Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,871) (75,876) by MusicfanJ from Germany I've noticed it too. There was a change with "Obsessed". Like Hilton on this board said the song release was not typical for Mariah. Was it the time Mariah's private life was already a bit suffering? Or just the changes in the musicbiz? I don't know. And I hope if she releases a new song it will be a happy or "fun" song like Honey. Please no more drama song about a bitter ending romance for a single release. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 14:19)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,868) (75,875) by Terna from Nigeria "Why mention finish if it hasn't even begun and now we're hearing it's barely anything." And you say you're not getting worked up? Lol. Yet you talk about reading and comprehension, my reading and comprehension is top notch. It's the reason why I was a straight A English student and still am. [censored] You have nothing positive to say here, always complaining. [censored] [censored] Because if you did have a life, half the things that bug you so much about Mariah that you see the need to come on here and make a fool of yourself wouldn't even matter. It's not that deep. Damn. Churning our negativity like it's your second nature, yet hiding behind a Mariah picture anonymously, how pathetic. Lmao. Spread love Lila not hate it's gonna consume you very soon. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 14:11)

Re: Martyn's vigil (75,840) (75,874) by Special K from USA Simply beautiful. Thanks for sharing. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 13:55)

Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,871) (75,873) by Edouard from France Actually Mariah has been using controversy to her advantage in many of her lead-off singles since Honey. Honey was the escape from the mention, Heartbreaker was the collaboration with a rapper on the main version which at the time was very bold for an artist like Mariah, Loverboy was a big scandal in its own way and the melody of the verses as well as Da Brat's are a clear shot at gelloe, TTR was her way of saying I'm still here even after Glitter, ILT and WBT is a party record "them chickens is ash and I'm lotion" and a shot at Tommy Mottola. Touch My Body and #Beautiful don't surf on the scadal wave. When you think about it Drealover uses a sample from Emotions (the group) and people accused her of plagia when she did Emotions because they said she used the Best Of My Love song (from the group Emotions). In reality it's more an hommage than anything. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 13:09)

Re: Message from Martyn's mom (75,869) (75,872) by Lannister from USA It was absolutely beautiful. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 06:15)

Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,871) by T from USA Actually I noticed a change in Mariah the artist after she released Obsessed. I think that song cursed the rest of her career. I really do. I mean it was the last single to date that she promoted properly in that old school Mariah fashion but even with all the hard work it only reached #7. And then there was the subject matter. It was a very different kind of single for MC. There was an air of desperateness around it. As if for the first time she needed controversy to sell a record. Since that song she has never promoted a song properly (or even had a top 10). Maybe the music gods weren't too keen on Mariah making and releasing Obsessed. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 02:18)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,868) (75,870) by Edward from USA Lila, you made my day with that post. He might come at you with his account from France. (Monday 29 May 2017; 23:17)

Message from Martyn's mom (75,869) by RibbonB from USA How touching and thoughtful of her to share that with lambs and Mariah. Hopefully Mariah is aware of her comments. (Monday 29 May 2017; 23:02)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,862) (75,868) by Lila from United States You'd bet wrong because I own MIAM in its entirety and nothing in my post points to me being worked up about the album being incomplete because that's not even what my post is about. Reading is fundamental. However, it's always amusing watching you make an ass of yourself trying to bring others down and never succeeding at it. You're so great at that but I'm sure it just naturally comes with the territory of being a jackass. (Monday 29 May 2017; 22:46)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,865) (75,867) by RibbonB from USA Didn't Shawn make claims in 2008 about her then rumored, pending wedding to Nick on Facebook? He then quickly had to shut up and change his tune. Mimi with the purse strings controls all the things, sadly it seems oh so scatterbrained. Seems they continually throw things out to see what sticks. Oh well, I hope the kiddos Roc and Roe are good. (Monday 29 May 2017; 22:42)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,837) (75,866) by RibbonB from USA It's all lies and jokes to that crew including Shawn. If he could do better and help her do better, perhaps he would, but he can't so he enables and holds her hand if need be. I suspect it is all for that season two of Circus World. (Monday 29 May 2017; 22:18)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,858) (75,865) by Edward from USA Preach, Lila. You've stated it precisely and concisely. Shawn is just another enabler playing along with the other players. I doubt we're getting a new album at the end of the year. (Monday 29 May 2017; 21:20)

Re: Martyn's vigil (75,840) (75,864) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Thanks so much for posting for those of us who couldn't attend in person. (Monday 29 May 2017; 21:02)

Re: Martyn's vigil (75,859) (75,863) by Lannister from USA This was incredibly moving. (Monday 29 May 2017; 20:51)

Re: I was born at night, not last night (75,837) (75,862) by Terna from Nigeria And you're getting so worked up on her album not being ready because? I bet you're one of the gremlins who didn't purchase the "Elusive Chanteuse" album. Trust me when I said that woman isn't gonna drop an album in a very very (caps) long time. Maybe not even in this decade. (Monday 29 May 2017; 20:43)

Martyn's friend Rob's Till The End of Time (75,861) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I'm stunned by Martyn's friend Rob's rendition of "Till the End of Time" at his vigil. What an amazing voice Rob has. He gave me chills. If you haven't seen it, check the video on twitter. (Monday 29 May 2017; 20:35)

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