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by Stacey from USA
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Mad here? That depends. It depends on if the collaboration steers toward the WAP Cardi B with MC running around in a bathing suit once again. No thanks. That's so beneath Mariah's legend status. Now I'd it's a fun bop aka Fantasy, Heartbreaker, Crybaby, etc then yeah, I'm all for it.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 02:02)
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by Shezz from Pk
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I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice.
Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37)
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I don't understand peoole from this board (105,654)
by Stacey from USA
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It's why I don't take anything said here too seriously. At the end of the day I have been an MC fan for 30 years. I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I'll always love her music. Saved me on many occasions. Carey on.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 01:59)
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I don't understand peoole from this board (105,648)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
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Come on guys. She is doing exposure if she will collaborate with Cardi or whoever mainstream [censored] there is. Why are the lambs so hyper in being critical? Lets learn to accept that we are way past the prime. We can have opinions yeah but most of the time people are dragging her nearer to the grave. So much for being a lamb. She can't give out what we want or desire vocally/personality/artistic choices. We all act like as if we are her mother. She is an old adult let her be. Btw just living for the music. Persona, career wise I don't care now. Ugh. Why is charting even created? Sad that art needs to be capitalized for money vs the real form for its consumption.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:49)
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This is what we asked for (105,653)
by Stacey from USA
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And add her take on Nevertheless (I'm in love with you). Now that music is timeless.
I like Yes And. Do I think it has the same magic, wow factor that a Jay-Z collab did with Heartbreaker? No. But I ain't mad at it. It's a huge step up from I Don't, Save the Day, etc.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 01:57)
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This is what we asked for (105,645)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I've never asked or wanted a song or remix with Ariana. I don't like the music from Miss Grande. The same with Cardi B. (even worse). I want real musicians like Jazz/Blues and Soul singers or a band with real instruments. People like James Poyser are also a win. Trends will come and go, but quality music will stay forever. I enjoy the song "Portrait" again lately, I almost get some Stevie Wonder vibes from a part of the melody. Mariah's "You and I" version is heavenly. That's my kind of music.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 16:37)
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MC remix album (105,652)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I love your idea. I know that she has some extra outtakes and vocal stems for most of the songs on the remix album. I would love to see David Morales add some "Stereo Experience" mixes for Dreamlover, Fantasy, and Honey like he did for It's Like That and add new club remixes for the radio remixes like My All/Stay Awhile, Heartbreaker ft. Missy Elliot and Da Brat, and ABMB ft. Xscape. I would love a new Butterfly club remix by Disclosure or Salaam Remi. By the way, why hasn't MC worked with Salaam Remi before?
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 00:29)
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MC remix album (105,650)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm sure this is going to cause a stir here, but I'm here for it. Like a vol 2 of her OG remix album, and add in new ones and new collabs. Mariah's now done 2 remixes and they're both bops, and it seems like an easy releases for her hardly lifting a finger lol, meanwhile her album is taking forever. Don't come at me, it's just an idea. What do you all think?
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 20:16)
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I don't understand peoole from this board (105,651)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Great post MH. We all want what is best for MC.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 23:11)
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I don't understand peoole from this board (105,648)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
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Come on guys. She is doing exposure if she will collaborate with Cardi or whoever mainstream [censored] there is. Why are the lambs so hyper in being critical? Lets learn to accept that we are way past the prime. We can have opinions yeah but most of the time people are dragging her nearer to the grave. So much for being a lamb. She can't give out what we want or desire vocally/personality/artistic choices. We all act like as if we are her mother. She is an old adult let her be. Btw just living for the music. Persona, career wise I don't care now. Ugh. Why is charting even created? Sad that art needs to be capitalized for money vs the real form for its consumption.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:49)
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MC remix album (105,650)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm sure this is going to cause a stir here, but I'm here for it. Like a vol 2 of her OG remix album, and add in new ones and new collabs. Mariah's now done 2 remixes and they're both bops, and it seems like an easy releases for her hardly lifting a finger lol, meanwhile her album is taking forever. Don't come at me, it's just an idea. What do you all think?
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 20:16)
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This is what we asked for (105,649)
by Tevin from USA
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Thanks T.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 19:59)
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This is what we asked for (105,641)
by T from USA
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I remember coming to this board for years with people asking for an up tempo Mariah pop song with big vocals. Even Max Martin produced. Some even suggested the impossible, that she's on a track with Ariana Grande. Now we have exactly what everyone has asked for and the success it could find going into the top 10 would be huge. Streaming is easy. Buying is too but this is the day to do it. I've made it easy with two links for us here. Ariana's website and Amazon's new release page.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:47)
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I don't understand peoole from this board (105,648)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
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Come on guys. She is doing exposure if she will collaborate with Cardi or whoever mainstream [censored] there is. Why are the lambs so hyper in being critical? Lets learn to accept that we are way past the prime. We can have opinions yeah but most of the time people are dragging her nearer to the grave. So much for being a lamb. She can't give out what we want or desire vocally/personality/artistic choices. We all act like as if we are her mother. She is an old adult let her be. Btw just living for the music. Persona, career wise I don't care now. Ugh. Why is charting even created? Sad that art needs to be capitalized for money vs the real form for its consumption.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:49)
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This is what we asked for (105,647)
by T from USA
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Sometimes it's not about what you want. Mariah isn't a puppet that you can control the strings to. If you don't understand what a Top 10 hit on Billboard would mean for Mariah then you really don't know Mariah. Because she's always chosen hits and charts above anything else. I believe deep down inside she's a real musician, a soul artist, but she's very much driven by success. It's the American way. If you want more Mariah you have to give her incentive. Stream and buy.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:45)
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This is what we asked for (105,645)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I've never asked or wanted a song or remix with Ariana. I don't like the music from Miss Grande. The same with Cardi B. (even worse). I want real musicians like Jazz/Blues and Soul singers or a band with real instruments. People like James Poyser are also a win. Trends will come and go, but quality music will stay forever. I enjoy the song "Portrait" again lately, I almost get some Stevie Wonder vibes from a part of the melody. Mariah's "You and I" version is heavenly. That's my kind of music.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 16:37)
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This is what we asked for (105,646)
by T from USA
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Yes. You can also stream it for free.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:43)
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This is what we asked for (105,643)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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I don't understand your obsession. Do you really expect us to spend loads of money (which all goes to Ariana) just to get the remix in the top 10 of Billboard?
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 14:50)
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This is what we asked for (105,645)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I've never asked or wanted a song or remix with Ariana. I don't like the music from Miss Grande. The same with Cardi B. (even worse). I want real musicians like Jazz/Blues and Soul singers or a band with real instruments. People like James Poyser are also a win. Trends will come and go, but quality music will stay forever. I enjoy the song "Portrait" again lately, I almost get some Stevie Wonder vibes from a part of the melody. Mariah's "You and I" version is heavenly. That's my kind of music.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 16:37)
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This is what we asked for (105,641)
by T from USA
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I remember coming to this board for years with people asking for an up tempo Mariah pop song with big vocals. Even Max Martin produced. Some even suggested the impossible, that she's on a track with Ariana Grande. Now we have exactly what everyone has asked for and the success it could find going into the top 10 would be huge. Streaming is easy. Buying is too but this is the day to do it. I've made it easy with two links for us here. Ariana's website and Amazon's new release page.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:47)
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General public or bad decisions (105,644)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I agree, what Mariah and Walter had was magical. They should have continued to work together whilst allowing her to still experiment with different sounds as she did with David & Robert. I sometimes feel once singers are established they then want to go off and do what they like. I think it's important to follow things you like however as an artist they are launched in a way that the record executives know will work, and I feel being a music artist should be like an actor. Stick with what works, take advice from others, live your private life the way you want to. But ultimately don't accept a career launch that you say goes against what you believe in and like just to get famous and then decide to turn against that image and style because your now famous and think you can do what you like. People already bought into and loved the Mariah we were introduced to from day one. Changing the dynamics so much to the point your artistry is no longer recognizable, I'm afraid cost her her popularity with the general public. I'm still a Mariah fan because I like her music but I don't agree with how much she changed from what people loved about her and in my eyes actually worked for her and ultimately made her more popular.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 15:26)
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General public or bad decisions (105,624)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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MC lost her magic when she stopped collaborating with Walter A. She might have 26 #1 songs now if the two never stopped collaborating. That was a bad decision she has paid dearly for.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:10)
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This is what we asked for (105,643)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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I don't understand your obsession. Do you really expect us to spend loads of money (which all goes to Ariana) just to get the remix in the top 10 of Billboard?
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 14:50)
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This is what we asked for (105,641)
by T from USA
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I remember coming to this board for years with people asking for an up tempo Mariah pop song with big vocals. Even Max Martin produced. Some even suggested the impossible, that she's on a track with Ariana Grande. Now we have exactly what everyone has asked for and the success it could find going into the top 10 would be huge. Streaming is easy. Buying is too but this is the day to do it. I've made it easy with two links for us here. Ariana's website and Amazon's new release page.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:47)
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General public or bad decisions (105,642)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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If there's one thing we know about MC it's that she's gonna do what she wants creatively and not what others want. It was just a matter of time before her music style or genre would evolve from mostly Pop to something all her own. She seamlessly merged genres and it is magic. Walter or not, she was going to create music from within and collaborate with rappers she respects, a few Walter ballads sprinkled here or there, but mostly her creative expression. Butterfly was inevitable. That's what makes it so wonderful, her full creative freedom was announced when the butterfly emerged from being controlled in the cocoon for many years. She's never going back to the Mary Poppins persona some fans are waiting for. Meanwhile , let me clutch my pearls and gay gasp at a curse word or two while I enjoy the new Yes, And? remix. For the record, GTFO is my favorite song from Caution.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 14:24)
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General public or bad decisions (105,626)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Ohhhh Robert I don't think I've ever disagreed with you on this board, but if MC kept working with Walter, TEOM would never have happened. After Daydream Mariah would have been cemented in the Celine Dion, Barbra Streisand genre. Just like Michael Bubble will forever be in the Frank Sinatra genre. Mariah was lyrically doing art, and vocally doing art during her time with W.A, but I think even though it was amazing, it was commissioned art, not the art for the artist who wanted to express themselves.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:28)
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This is what we asked for (105,641)
by T from USA
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I remember coming to this board for years with people asking for an up tempo Mariah pop song with big vocals. Even Max Martin produced. Some even suggested the impossible, that she's on a track with Ariana Grande. Now we have exactly what everyone has asked for and the success it could find going into the top 10 would be huge. Streaming is easy. Buying is too but this is the day to do it. I've made it easy with two links for us here. Ariana's website and Amazon's new release page.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:47)
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General public or bad decisions (105,640)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I agree with you on this and again it's a personal preference for me. I love Mariah's music Daydream onwards. They feel more authentic to her artistry and what she wanted to do so they feel less "manufactured" and "formula driven" to me. She took more chances.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:32)
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General public or bad decisions (105,626)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Ohhhh Robert I don't think I've ever disagreed with you on this board, but if MC kept working with Walter, TEOM would never have happened. After Daydream Mariah would have been cemented in the Celine Dion, Barbra Streisand genre. Just like Michael Bubble will forever be in the Frank Sinatra genre. Mariah was lyrically doing art, and vocally doing art during her time with W.A, but I think even though it was amazing, it was commissioned art, not the art for the artist who wanted to express themselves.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:28)
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Keep on streaming (105,639)
by T from USA
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Reminder to stream the remix like never before today. Literally we are so close to a top 10 on Billboard 100 for the upcoming week. It's the difference of one point. If you haven't bought it this is our best chance to see Mariah in the Top 10 without Christmas music. Maybe our last chance. USA buy, stream, request on radio.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:30)
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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True it may be a stretch especially with Ariana singing live for sure. We'll see it's be nice to see Mariah but ya I don't know if she is comfortable with that setting. Hope the Cardi rumors are true and if so I hope it's the main version of the song and not another darn remix where we have to keep hyperventilating if it'll get her credit or not haha. The reason I am excited about Cardi collaboration is not because I'm a huge fan, it's because I want Mariah to get as much coverage on the popular playlists and radio exposures so that it sets her nicely for her own release. This Ariana collaboration eventhough no promo at all had her on a lot of big radios and major playlists. So that is definitely something we want for her.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 13:29)
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SNL (105,633)
by Shezz from Pk
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I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice.
Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37)
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by Jamie from UK
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I wonder if it's true, time will tell.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 12:52)
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by Shezz from Pk
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I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice.
Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37)
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General public or bad decisions (105,636)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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The respect your response Matty completely. I just feel MC's relationship with Walter A. ended in a very bad way. It has always been this what if in the back of mind.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 11:30)
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by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Ohhhh Robert I don't think I've ever disagreed with you on this board, but if MC kept working with Walter, TEOM would never have happened. After Daydream Mariah would have been cemented in the Celine Dion, Barbra Streisand genre. Just like Michael Bubble will forever be in the Frank Sinatra genre. Mariah was lyrically doing art, and vocally doing art during her time with W.A, but I think even though it was amazing, it was commissioned art, not the art for the artist who wanted to express themselves.
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by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I am worried as well. SNL is not a show where viewers accept lipped performances (remember the Ashley Simpson failed backing tracking debacle). The social media will not be too nice the day after. The Distance performed on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon in 2019 was her last completely live performance. Can MC do it? Maybe with vocal rest and some hot tea and honey.
Maybe the Cardi B. collaboration is a summer bop and her team is waiting for June or July to unleash to the world. I hope Cardi B pokes fun at Nikki Minaj by calling Mariah's name in her voice the way Nikki Minaj did in Up Out My Face. I am predicting The-Dream co-wrote the collaboration. I haven't predicted in awhile. Lol.
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I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice.
Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37)
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by Sasha from Nomansland
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Her image I would say didn't help. But mainly I think the failure of her marriage with Cannon destroyed her. She lost her light, her magic, her energy and motivation since then.
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by Jamie from UK
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I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her.
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I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice.
Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here.
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ariana is performing at SNL on March 9th. There's rumors Mariah may join her. I don't think I believe that but it'd be a treat.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 03:26)
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General public or bad decisions (105,632)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Glitter is everything. I love it to death and play it everyday. That summer was a blast for me.
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by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Glitter is a masterpiece - I think lambs remember this moment as a failure, but this was the only year Mariah appeared in Forbes list of most powerful women, she did the national anthem at the Super Bowl in 2002 next to the 9/11 statue, she looked gorgeous, and Loverboy was constantly on the radio, on TV music stations, also #2 on Billboard (don't give me the it was discounted argument, because most singles were always discounted and sat in the discount bins at HMV and Music World). I think corporate Virgin panicked more than the public.
I love Charmbraclet personally, and in my home town of Guelph Ontario (45 mins south/west of Toronto) "Boy" was on the radio constantly, but for some reason the album wasn't what they wanted as a "comeback" album after 18 months of lows ( ) Why do those few months out of 30 years taint her? I'll never know. Think of all the celebrated singers with issues now, 18 months out of the game or spotlight is nothing, Demi Lovato, Britney, even the beauty that is Selina Gomez, Gaga, Ariana. Maybe it was simply the expectation that year after year for a decade Mariah was ever present and showed up. I have no doubt that's exhausting.
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General public or bad decisions (105,631)
by enwar00 from usa
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I think that fall in 2013 may have set off a series of unfortunate events, and affected more than we'll ever know.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 05:14)
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General public or bad decisions (105,612)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)
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