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Re: The Lopez resolution (62,989) (62,993) by ADAM from USA I agree with your statement. This is such a divisive topic on this board. So much time has passed and yet Mariah is still catty and mean spirited about this woman. Mariah has said so many passive aggressive comments about JLo from her not producing or writing her own music to her "being just a dancer" so her IDK shade in many interviews (Allure magazine, Mirabella magazine, Hot97 interview with Star). It just all is bitter. I am a fan of both woman and feel that if Mariah were to put her ego to the side that they actually have the potential to become friends as they have a lot in common. However I just think that Mariah and many fans are way too insecure and invested in drama to really have that happen. While I agree that Tommy Mottola used JLo's record to swap music samples, I don't believe that JLo was even aware of such a thing nor should be blamed as a result for some personal vendetta that Tommy had against Mariah. It's clear that they were romantically involved and Tommy used his influence in music to try and sabotage her upcoming projects. And before I get torn to shreds let's not forget how Mariah was romantically involved with a married Tommy Mottola with who had 2 kids at the time. I'm not judging Mariah for what she "knew" for didn't want to know, I'm just proving a point that anyone could be kept in the dark about a situation. Mariah needs to stop trying to create gossip and drama and start remembering how humble she used to be when she had no fame, fortune, nor food on her table. (Friday 3 June 2016; 23:29)

Re: The Lopez resolution (62,989) (62,992) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Well bloody hell Andrew, I agree with you. (Friday 3 June 2016; 23:27)

Re: The Lopez resolution (62,989) (62,991) by B from USA She wasn't new to the label. Jenny had already been around the block. (Friday 3 June 2016; 23:24)

My favourite Mariah interview (62,990) by Bill from the UK Hi all, please let me share with you my most favourite Mariah interview. It was during the promo round for Precious and I Want To Know What Love Is. Mariah looks great, is engaging, endearing, charming, funny, happy, personable and the best I ever saw her. She honestly seemed genuinely at peace here. I cannot help but smile from ear to ear whenever I watch this. Please take seven minutes out of your day and treat yourself. (Friday 3 June 2016; 23:21)

The Lopez resolution (62,989) by Andrew from UK What did J.Lo really do? Now, I don't much like her (and I ask the fans to watch "The Boy Next Door" and hear her say "Firecracker?" to the camera - she ought to have avoided that for obvious reasons), and I think her music is mundane. The head of her label, way back when, told the composers to write her a song with a certain sample. And she was new to the label, I recall. What was she, realistically, supposed to do? Refuse? Refuse the mafia of record labels? She didn't write, she didn't produce (as far as my limited knowledge goes), she was handed material and told to perform, as most non-MC talents were and are. I'm not convinced that she had a choice in the matter and whilst I'm still furious for Mariah for the trashing of her project, is the anger aimed at J.Lo warranted? I can't see it. We all make mistakes and things happen in all of our lives that we regret and wish we could change. I would like for Mariah to put in a phone call and make friends. Whitney and Mariah being friends was, on paper in the nineties, almost an impossibility. Even if it doesn't end in a duet, I want my idol to extend a hand and end it. I will love her a thousand times over for doing so. Not to shame Lopez or get one over on her, but to act with the emotional virtue her own lyrics impart. With heart and emotion, forgiveness and love. We all regret the past. Time for Mariah to step up and forgive and let go. And you will find me screaming her virtues I she does. (Friday 3 June 2016; 23:07)

Re: Identity crisis? Who is Mariah Carey? (62,979) (62,988) by Andrew from UK Bloody hell, I agree, somewhat, with you, too. This is at the heart of where I am: is this a PR disaster or is this who MC really is and everything before it an act? Feel humble. Lemme shutup. (Friday 3 June 2016; 22:48)

Re: [censored] Lopez and Shaderiah Carey (62,982) (62,987) by Andrew from UK Bloody hell. I think you're right. (Friday 3 June 2016; 22:46)

Glam Mariah (62,986) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I was wondering if Mariah's team can get her a deal to be the face of a major fashion house or the face of a signature perfume for a major fashion house like "J'adore" for Dior, or "Chanel No. 5" and the likes. She could do one of the glamorous ads. And who does glamour better than Miss Carey? It could also help expose her to a wide range of audience, if she maybe records something as the background song. She is in great terms with so many big labels. I think she can easily get it done. She is quite close with Donatella Versace, Alaia, Karl Lagerfeld and recently, Olivier Rousteing. (Friday 3 June 2016; 21:56)

Correction (62,985) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada What I meant to say in the last post is "MC is not change if she doesn't have the desire to". We can disagree about that all day, but everyone has a choice. (Friday 3 June 2016; 21:44)

The real Mariah (62,984) by RibbonB from USA A lot of us are wondering who is the real Mariah. I have mentioned authenticity, others want to know the inside, many want hoodriah, hyperiah, slayriah. And she may be all of these at different times. The thing is we all have different perceptions and preferences. Lately, though it just isn't clear what is going on and a lot of mixed messages are being put forth. Where I might see she is acting rebellious or even against her best interests in a "slave" fashion, someone else may feel she is finally emancipated to be who she really is. But is she? Time will tell, because this is all leading up to something. I hope it all ends well for the real Mariah and of course her children. She is doing a lot and the body can only do so much. Is she a commodity or in command? Or is she just doing the best she can with what she got? I think she said that last part about herself. (Friday 3 June 2016; 21:37)

Re: I'm back (62,951) (62,983) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Mariah likes the Marilynesque image, it's very clear that it's part of her public persona. The expectation of her to change that I don't quite get. Sure, it turns some people off. It did in Marilyn's career as well. Prince pushed the envelope at every turn, and lived on his terms despite what anyone said about his choices. MC is not if she doesn't have the desire to. If people aren't willing to look beyond the surface, then they probably never genuinely liked her to begin with. It doesn't take much to understand there is more to Mariah then her "dahlings" her diamonds and her "Mariahisms" and her cleavage. If people really want to get to know the true and genuine Mariah, they will spend some time on YouTube chronicling her in-depth interviews and contributions to music. If they don't, they will simply make a snap judgement, label her a B with an ich and keep going. To me, spending time comparing people and being upset about who is coming off as the "better person" is a pretty futile exercise. We all have flaws and are capable of making choices that miss the mark. To me "unconditional" means acceptance without judgment. Doesn't mean I would make some of the same choices MC does if they don't feel right for me. What it does mean is I don't have any judgement toward her for what she chooses. (Friday 3 June 2016; 21:23)

Re: [censored] Lopez and Shaderiah Carey (62,973) (62,982) by B from USA This feud keeps both of them relevant to the tweens who purchase more music than anyone else. It creates interest which hopefully cause these kids to discover Mariah's music. (Friday 3 June 2016; 21:01)

Re: Identity crisis? Who is Mariah Carey? (62,979) (62,981) by MusicfanJ from Germany Ardis you're right, sometimes I worry a lot too about the Mariah inside, not the showbiz pro when the camera is on. I mean we just have to take a look of her lyrics. Most of them are so deep. When I think of Camouflage I could cry. Mariah is so emotional and sensitive. The people who are funny are often the saddest. I just hope that she's happy. Mariah admires Marilyn and she was the saddest woman on earth. Nothing that they should have in common. From the outside Mariah seems to have everything. She deserves every luxury but I just want to see her real happy. That must have been said. (Friday 3 June 2016; 20:24)

Re: Queenlambassador (62,976) (62,980) by RibbonB from USA Isn't that when he was calling himself a slave? (Friday 3 June 2016; 19:57)

Identity crisis? Who is Mariah Carey? (62,979) by Ardis Logic from Earth As many of us have noticed, she seems to be a totally different person now. Could she be going through an identity crisis? The breakup of her marriage seemed to be very traumatic. I honestly don't think she ever got over it. She seems to be putting up a front, or an act, acting like she is so happy and in love with this billionaire guy, but they don't look like they are truly "in love" to me. When you're really and truly in love, you can't get enough of each other. You want to spend every moment you can with that person. You would make a great effort, to be by their side as much as possible. This whole thing looks like a big show. I worry about her, the real Mariah, deep down inside. Not the huge diva star, "Mariah Carey" but the little girl, deep down inside who is being suppressed. She seems to be under control by those around her. She doesn't seem like herself at all anymore, and that's not good. There has to come a time where she will break out of it. I hope she wakes up soon and takes control of her life again. Or, maybe I am way off, maybe she is exactly who she is, and we have just been deceived all these years. Lord knows. (Friday 3 June 2016; 19:11)

Mariah hits her head is too hysterical (62,977) by Sheila from United States This is the funniest clip I have ever seen. Mariah took it like a champ and that's [...] I love her. (Friday 3 June 2016; 18:58)

Re: Queenlambassador (62,963) (62,976) by Billy from Greece "I'm upset that some of you just want to see Mariah the fake so much." You hit the nail right there. What I've always enjoyed about post-"Butterfly" Mariah, especially, was that she did not care too much about being politically correct, or even when she did not care at all, as much idiosyncratic or incomprehensible as she may have come across because of that. In this sense, I too think that she handled just fine that whole "I don't know her" saga on WWHL. As much as I can see in Mariah a need to be accepted and belong somewhere, I also think she does not care about being all too likable. I mean, the woman is not stupid. If she wanted, she would still be "Mary Poppins". This debate brings to mind those people who ask for a song that is "universal" and "widely acceptable" without too many Mariahisms. They namely ask for a song with cliches, platitudes and something not distinct of her identity. Again, no thanks. Since at this point I've been listening to her post-"Butterfly" output much more than I do her early stuff, I admire so much more all the concepts, musical or image-wise, she has come up with since then. Even if you approach this in terms of album covers, you can see the difference (in a good way). It's similar to what's happening with Adele now: black and white photographs, "unthreatening", anyone can project their own interpretation onto them, they fit more contexts etc. I think Mariah has walked the Prince path. Remember how incomprehensible he came across in the 1990s and early 2000s? It all makes much more sense now, doesn't it? (Friday 3 June 2016; 18:31)

Drama (62,975) by Carlos from Brazil Since we are all in our own right to say anything here, sensitive or not (I'm fragile maybe, hahaha pun intended) I will say the only way Mariah would come back to the charts which she did with #Beautiful in her last album (I didn't see the dancer doing that in her last effort) is to share great music with the world. I don't want her to be nice or whateaver. She will always be Mariah. That's her and that's all. (Friday 3 June 2016; 18:20)

Let MC be (62,974) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I've been coming to the message board lately and all I see is Mariah should take note from everybody you can possibly think of. Honestly I would rather her be true to who she is than her trying to be who everybody wants her to be. She has been there and done that and with the success she was unhappy and miserable. And than she experienced a breakdown trying to keep up with that perfect pop princess facade. While I do not support all MC's choices I do respect her being true to herself so I say let MC be who she is. (Friday 3 June 2016; 17:30)

Re: [censored] Lopez and Shaderiah Carey (62,963) (62,973) by Licia from USA You totally ignored me blaming both of them for this mess being started up again and continuing. Lol. "I know who she is but I don't know her on a personal level." (I stole this quote from Mimi L. lol). This is what I expected Mariah to say. That one line could have ended this whole mess, but she went on to say some unnecessary extra crap and threw in more shade. I got what she meant to say, but the non fans only heard the extra crap and the shade. That's not handling it with class and composure. That's adding more fuel to the fire and giving people who already dislike you more reason to dislike you. The same can be said for Jennifer. Instead of saying Mariah was forgetful she could have said something totally different to keep down the confusion, but she decided to be petty that day. At this point neither of them are victims and both are guilty of allowing the media and the fans to sucker them into reigniting this mess. Both of these broads need to be adults and lay this to rest. (Friday 3 June 2016; 17:09)

Re: Jimmy Kimmel (62,961) (62,972) by Andrew from UK The problem with clowns who are sad on the inside is that people just see a clown. And as someone once sang (can't remember who), "Nobody cries when the tears of a clown fall down." The interview was a quite amusing but Mariah is becoming a parody of herself. I wonder, are the producers laughing with her or at her when they decided to put her in a bath in a ball gown, wearing diamonds, with champagne, being fed grapes? Do they have her interests at heart or are they actually just thinking she's just that Mariah Carey: a bit of a [censored] that will let us mock her for some cheap entertainment? Clown, indeed. Either the joke is wearing very thin these days or I should cheer the [censored] up. Maybe both lol. (Friday 3 June 2016; 16:41)

Cute interview (62,971) by RibbonB from USA The Kimmel interview was fun. They've had a few good ones over the years. I would really love if she did Oprah's masterclass, but perhaps in a few years. She is still in transition this year. (Friday 3 June 2016; 16:27)

Dear sensitive Lambs (62,970) by Shezz from Pk I hardly ever posted here before precisely to keep out of the drama. I understand your undying love for her but let me tell you that our constructive criticism of her is only because we want to see her do well again on the charts. It hurts seeing her albums and singles perform poorly because I genuinely do believe she deserves more success than she is getting - even with Infinity. The only way for her to get more success is by being more appealing to the general audience which is all we are suggesting. Not picking her apart for the hell of it and to keep her down but just trying to get her back on top. We all love her just as much and don't want her to be fake and say I love JLo and I'm a fan. (Friday 3 June 2016; 15:29)

Re: Gwen (62,965) (62,969) by ADAM from USA Maybe I also need to let go or adjustment my expectations of Mariah. I guess I'm in disbelieve still that everything Mariah is public or interviewed she continues to convey this uber-wealthy diva gimmick and is all about the lighting and angles vs the musician who is here to promote music made from her soul. The truth is she's been like this for many years and I just think I haven't let go of what she used to be. I'm not referring to her singing ballads but to the musician who was serious about her craft and image. I just feel like she's a joke and a caricature of what she probably thought she'd never be when she started in the game. I feel like she's cementing her legacy not as an artist but as a Marilyn Monroe wannabe diva who sometimes sings. I think she really emulates her life to be like Marilyn and is lost excess and her own fame. Does anyone else feel the same way? I can't remember the last time she gave a serious interview or answered questions without sounding like an airhead or showed off her wealth in some kind of way. You would think that as time goes on she would be the most secure in front of the camera but instead she is incapable of being recorded on camera without pulling, tugging, or directing some sort of lighting. Who is this person anymore? (Friday 3 June 2016; 15:16)

Re: Gwen (62,965) (62,968) by Malcolm from Asia I agree with you. That's what I'm saying, like Janet, Gwen did not match the success of her previous album but they can always proudly say that their visuals came from an intellectual minds and worked really hard to create videos like that. They are always consistent that after 10-20 years, new generation will watch those and they will be impressed on how much these artists put effort in their works. No offense to the body of work that Mariah has given us by her discography, I know it will stand the test of time but I can't say the same with the visuals she's releasing now a days. Kudos to their creative teams and also for them for not letting to suffer the beauty of creating a visual. (Friday 3 June 2016; 14:33)

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