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Scientology goes Hollywood (62,789) by RibbonB from USA
This is scary indeed. Run Mariah, run.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 22:40)
Re: Don't forget about blush (62,786) (62,788) by Marissa from USA
Vision of Blush. Clown (no title change needed).
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 22:23)
Divas Live Natural Woman (62,787) by Mirage_Nunez from America
Carol King's commentary on the showdown Divas' showdown. Maybe this will give everyone more prospective on what was actually going on. I agree with Randy Jacksons commentary. At the end of the day it was the best rendition I've ever witness of this song, I just wish Carol would've gotten a line.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 22:20)
Re: Don't forget about blush (62,782) (62,786) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Stella's blush/contour deserves it's own darn reality show. "Thank God I Blushed You". "Contour Takes Time". "Blush Be There". "Don't Stop (Blushing for America)".
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 21:29)
Re: Don't forget about blush (62,782) (62,784) by RibbonB from USA
Hilarious. Let's play song titles with blush. Blush like a bird. I can't let blush go. We blush together. Lol I forgot one: Blush story.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 20:47)
Re: Celine, Patti, Aretha, and all that stuff (62,776) (62,783) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
Stacey, I guess because there's this belief that there must be drama and competition behind everything lol. It's completely untrue. No person is any less deserving of having their moments to shine and share their gifts. Celine had a moment. Doesn't mean there was any ill intent behind it. Frankly, it shouldn't matter quite so much whether people have "legend" status or not. Yes, it's a lovely acknowledgement of achievement, which is deserved, but should it be used to place people up on a pedestal so high that we stop sharing with other people? No. Strip away titles, money, fame culture etc we're all human beings with the same potential whether it is music or something else.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 20:24)
Don't forget about blush (62,782) by Luke from United Kingdom
Can we all just sit back and appreciate Stella's blush. I think it deserves it's own twitter, or she should at least charge it rent. Perhaps that is the source of her Jedi mind tricks.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 20:21)
Re: Divas Live 1998 (62,765) (62,781) by Jenny from South Africa
Celine was not screeching or warbling. She sounded amazing and was just having fun. Aretha was asking the other ladies to join in with her. Celine was not being disrespectful. How often do you get a chance to sing with a legend? (Sorry Bill, I normally love your posts.)
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 20:20)
Re: Celine, Patti, Aretha, and all that stuff (62,776) (62,780) by Marissa from USA
I was thinking along those lines too. I was mainly looking at Celine's intention. She does not strike me as an attention w**** who would purposely try to embarrass and upstage anyone. If anything I think maybe she was trying to prove to Aretha that she was worthy of even being on the same stage as her, especially since Celine isn't known as a soulful singer.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 20:05)
Re: Stacey (62,779) by Nikki from usa
Mariah never tried to upstage Aretha. In fact, she didn't ever sing until Aretha cued her to sing. Perhaps, you need to watch that again. Celine also tried to outsing the other 3 during Carole King's song and even sang Carole's part. They were going down the line, you could see Carole about to sing her part before Celine took over. It's about harmonizing as a group, not trying to upstage each other. Everyone seem to get that but Celine. The finale was Aretha's song and she went down the line with everyone and each of them had their moment. At the very end when Aretha was doing her vocalization, Celine chimed in at the last second, trying to sing the last note. The rest of the divas were harmonizing together while Celine tried to outsing everyone and took over other's parts.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 19:54)
Parallels between MC and Riri's career (62,778) by Nikki from usa
It is interesting how they both started racking up #1's and then had a year of releasing music where they struggled to hit the top spot. Mariah's being in '98 with Sweetheart and the two "Believe" songs. I'm aware My All rolled over into '98 and was a #1 hit for her, but then her next LP's releases didn't yield any. Riri had a straight string up until last year when "Seconds" and "Money" didn't hit high enough. Mariah came back in '99 and racked up 2 more and now Riri is trying for that second #1 in a row. Mariah was at 11 years before her fall and that's where Riri is now. A lot of people think she'll beat MC's record, but I really don't. I still think she could get 1 or 2 more, but I think that's where it will end. I see this going one of a few ways. Riri's brand is sexuality with a healthy dose of kink and the younger generation is less interested in that brand when an artist hits their 30's. I think we're already starting to see the effects of that. I see Rihanna becoming a top 10 artist like Ariana and then top 20 when she's in her late 30's. There's also the biological clock every woman hears begin to tick when she hits 30, so her priorities could change. She had a harder time of hitting the top spot, so her label will need to push her on her current momentum now that she's managed to hit it. They need to keep her going at a constant rate until the cash cow has been fully milked. That's draining in and of itself, which is why I think she only has 2-3 years left.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 19:43)
Re: Divas Live '98 (62,777) by Nikki from usa
I gotta back Bill up on that one. The "divas" consisting of MC, Celine, and I can't even remember the third one were all a parody on Saturday Night Live by their cast. That's a show depicting live music, which Mariah has done many times, while the rest of the show does funny skits that are made up or based off entertainers. Mariah's parody was her hot body - "I"m keeping an eye on my figure and so is every heterosexual male on the planet" was her shtick. Celine's was being "the greatest singer in the world" which she would constantly say and break out into song whenever the other two singers began talking. It was a constant parody that lasted 2 years after Divas Live came out. VH1 did a special on Divas for that year claiming Celine was trying to outsing Aretha on her own song. She was depicted as being very rude.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 19:20)
Re: Celine, Patti, Aretha, and all that stuff (62,760) (62,776) by Stacey from USA
See though, I don't think Celine was trying to out sing anyone. I don't see Celine as that kind of self-serving diva. I've watched the performance of Natural Woman many times. All the divas were singing, then there was a moment to the end where Celine stepped in front and wailed a few riffs. The rest of the song showcased all the divas doing their thing. I don't see Celine ignoring her "place", trying to upstage Aretha. She had a moment and sang. Other divas had their moments. I just don't see the problem. Celine has always shown great respect and admiration for other artists that paved the way for her. Celine has had an amazing career. Why is it such an issue for her to have a moment? I just don't get "it", apparently, lol.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 19:11)
Re: Interesting article (62,764) (62,775) by RibbonB from USA
It seems to be common in Hollywood. I hope Mariah steers clear. For her and her kids sake. This is all a bit much. I read that group discourages members from using the internet. Perhaps that's why M has let others take over her social media. That in itself is not uncommon, but a preteen should not tweet for a singing legend.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 17:51)
Re: Interesting article (62,764) (62,774) by B from USA
I don't see Mariah joining that cult. If anything this will cause problems because Mariah is a Christian.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 17:43)
Scram Jones (62,773) by B from USA
I hope Mariah works with more producers like Scram Jones. I love Your Girl.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 17:39)
Re: Mariah's brand/image (62,766) (62,772) by Malcolm from Asia
I agree with you. That's my question for a long time now. I don't understand why Mariah Carey, one of the best-selling artist in history of music, 18 #1's, one of the queens of R&B, agreed to make a music video like the "Auld Lang Syne", had a lyric video like "Infinity"and the list goes on. I'm not saying that her image must be like in the "Tommy" era but a little bit precaution in actions, choosing the fashion choices that suits with her caliber and consistency in making great visuals are not that bad especially in the industry where she's revolving because I do believe that at the end of the day "image is everything".
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 17:03)
Re: Mid life and career crisis (62,768) (62,771) by B from USA
Mariah looks amazing. She isn't having a midlife crisis. Some fans and critics take her too seriously. Especially quotes that can be taken out of context. When Mariah says she's eternally twelve she means she's still a child at heart. She's not claiming to be an actual twelve year old.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 16:48)
Re: Stella (62,754) (62,770) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
That and the fact that she keeps encouraging the "shades" and "eternally 12" thing. Stella keeps highlighting the "I don't know her" diss a lot of times, and also the whole "eternally 12". Even saying Mishka is "eternally 12". Like what the fudge? Mishka is only 12. Give it a rest. In stead of being a kiss ass, Mariah needs someone that can guide her. It is true that Mariah may not like bossy people around her but she does need a strict guide and Stella is mostly just an enabler. Going "yass queen" on everything Mariah does, regardless of whether it's good or bad. I keep repeating that image is everything in this business, and Mariah's image is not fully on track.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 15:32)
Re: Mid life and career crisis (62,768) (62,769) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
It does make her sound weird during interviews especially when she is adamant about it and will refuse to accept her age no matter how the interviewer tries to spin it. The whole "VOL came out when I was in the womb" is silly. Most people would be proud to admit that "I have been in the business for 25 years and I am still relevant and am considered an icon". Plus this whole "scared to accept she is growing older" will definitely affect Roc and Roe's perception too since they look up to her so much.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 15:20)
Re: Mid life and career crisis (62,749) (62,768) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
The eternally 12 thing is disturbing quite frankly. Like no, you're 46 and your children will soon be 12. You are not 12, Mimi. I mean we're all children at heart but I don't get why she keeps repeating this stuff in every interview. It's kind of cringeworthy. I'm actually starting to question if she's being serious when she says that.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 13:39)
Re: Lee Daniels (62,751) (62,767) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
I call my girl friends bitches all the time. He's a good friend of Mariah. Get a sense of humor.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 13:36)
Mariah's brand/image (62,766) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
One of the things that I don't like about Mariah is her tacky brand. Up until the Rainbow era, her style and image was flawless. She dressed great in public, her photoshoots were elegant, and music videos were elegant, etc. Then starting from the Rainbow era, she started cheapening her brand. That Rainbow album cover art is tragic and so cheap, the whole glitter and charmbraclet eras looked incredibly cheap as well. The music videos and how she dressed started to become tacky. Look at this for example. Tragic. The Emancipation era had quality though but everything after that is just incredibly tacky for someone like Mariah frikken Carey. Like look at this. And she did that duet with Bieber. So when people say stuff like "Mariah shouldn't be dressing like that" they're not saying that she shouldn't dress in a sexy way. They're saying she shouldn't dress like she's on the same budget as Azealia Banks. She should dress like she's worth half a billion dollars.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 13:35)
Re: Divas Live 1998 (62,762) (62,765) by Bill from the UK
We're talking about it because it was brought up during Mariah's appearance on WWHL. Look at it this way, Divas Live 2030 is on and Mariah is front stage centre singing Hero. Ariana then starts, stands in front of her and starts screeching and warbling across her, whilst Beyonce hangs back and sings along with the backing singers. You'd all be baying for Ariana's blood and praising Beyonce. Mariah's voice was in fine form that night and she's said on numerous occassions that you simply don't try to outdo the queen of soul. Everybody else on stage got the memo, and knew this was Aretha's song and her moment, except Celine.
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 13:14)
Re: Interesting article (62,752) (62,764) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Oh no, it get's worse and worst. Packer met in the past people from Scientology. I hope it will not happen no more. Remember poor Katie Holmes. How can rich and famous people be so stupid to trust a sect?
(Saturday 28 May 2016; 11:19)

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