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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,750)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Dead haha. Yes I don't have 1 flaw I can find in WBT. It really is a masterpiece in vocals, lyrics, sampling, interpolation, layering, instrumentals and so much more.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 17:39)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,742)
by Shezz from Pk
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Also, can you imagine the self restraint it took from JD to hold back from his vocal interjections? He really wanted that song to be a masterpiece and for only Mariah to shine.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 13:39)
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Final Billboard placement for YAR (105,749)
by T from USA
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I'm gutted. It did even better than I thought and still missed the top 10 by one spot. It increased 49% from the previous week. One percentage point away from a Mariah credit. Didn't you wonder why her Instagram story she uploaded a short clip of her singing the song in the middle of the week? She badly wanted to get into the top 10 again. She missed it by one spot. I know the lambs and Ari fans contributed to the raise out of curiosity. But I also know after the initial buzz the fans really let them down. Had everyone kept up the momentum for a whole week, MC would be celebrating a new top ten hit in the thirty fourth year of her career. So close.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:46)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,748)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I heard it too, that because of J.D. "We belong together" is sung in full-voice. It was more than a good decision. Thank you J.D. People who only say yes to everything aren't helpful. Plus yes-man are often people who are not nice at all, only a façade to get what they want. Oh yes, Celine Dion was clever to listen to the advise with "My heart will go on". I remember 97 as it was yesterday. I was a teen and I loved "My heart will go on". I still have the single and soundtrack cd. Lol. I went to the Titanic movie two times with friends. What a wonderful time that was. The carefree 90ies. I miss them.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:43)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,733)
by Stacey from USA
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Rumor has it MC wanted to sing WBT with whisper vocals and JD insisted on full voice vocals. Can you imagine that song as a whisper track? Perish the thought. Yikes. MC is a masterpiece. But like all of us isn't perfect. Even the greatest basketball player, Michael Jordan, said all the shots he missed made him better. I mean, the guy was cut from his high school basketball team. I'll always advocate MC keep realists on her team, people not afraid to say no to Mariah. Shoot, Celine didn't want to sing My Heart Will Go On and ultimately gave in and did it. Good decision, don't ya think?
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:23)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,747)
by Tevin from USA
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So true, yes he was one of the main reasons why TEOM was a success, but I could never forgive him (and Mariah) for not releasing Migrate as the second single of E=MC2. Did anyone ever mention on here that Migrate should have been a single? Lol.
Also how did he botch the MOIA roll out? Obsessed was a great first single choice.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:36)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,744)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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So while during TEOM he was magical, I don't think LA still has the same magic. First of all he absolutely botched E=MC2 and MOAIA promo/roll out. Then when Mariah rejoined him in Epic he said she should do covers only and basically become a legacy artist. Telling a woman who considers songwriting her primary talent to just cover other people's song was probably a blow to Mariah. That's my 2 cents so no I don't think he is the right person now.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:01)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,746)
by Tevin from USA
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RA, do you have a link to that interview?
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:30)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,740)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC has to let him take control to do what he does best. I love the interview he gave to Entertainment Weekly how WBT came about. That is all she needs to have a hit album again.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 13:24)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,745)
by Bobby A from United States
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Haha. I don't need any memes on the web.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:27)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,737)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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We need a recording hahah. We Belong Together (RA's late night whisper version).
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 01:45)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,744)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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So while during TEOM he was magical, I don't think LA still has the same magic. First of all he absolutely botched E=MC2 and MOAIA promo/roll out. Then when Mariah rejoined him in Epic he said she should do covers only and basically become a legacy artist. Telling a woman who considers songwriting her primary talent to just cover other people's song was probably a blow to Mariah. That's my 2 cents so no I don't think he is the right person now.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:01)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,740)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC has to let him take control to do what he does best. I love the interview he gave to Entertainment Weekly how WBT came about. That is all she needs to have a hit album again.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 13:24)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,743)
by Shezz from Pk
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If I remember correctly that was the only era I think where Mariah was getting more radio play than single sales. I remember reading about it on Billboard in late 2005. I honestly don't think radio will ever show her that love again even if the songs on mc16 are better than the ones on TEOM.
I think we're gonna get a varied album that'll have a bit of everything for everyone. She's been working on it for years and she really wants to give it her best it seems. She's picked the toughest year to do it but I hope that doesn't scare her away. Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Ariana, Dua Lipa, Katy Perry and even Rihanna's highly anticipated comeback album all due in the new two quarters. Chart success should only serve as the cherry on top now, if that.
A well made album with some good promotion to make sure it reaches as many people as possible and then to focus on MC30 and take the next year off music.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 13:51)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,739)
by Stacey from USA
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Same. There's a reason why LA Reid is a successful record exec. ILT, SIO, and WBT are hawt. Radio hadn't been kind to MC for years since Rainbow. But when TOEM was released, radio had to play it (aka WBT.) That song is so good, radio was forced to play it. MC can strike gold again. Just put out good music and promote it.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 04:15)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,742)
by Shezz from Pk
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Also, can you imagine the self restraint it took from JD to hold back from his vocal interjections? He really wanted that song to be a masterpiece and for only Mariah to shine.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 13:39)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,734)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Everyday I thank LA Reid for telling Mariah to go back and record with JD hahah after she had initially completed TEOM without ILT, WBT, SIO and GYN. WBT is the most perfect song, masterpiece that should be studied but would have been a mess if it was just whispers.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:55)
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Ty Tribbett (105,741)
by Bobby A from United States
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I often wonder what a Ty Tribbett and Mariah Carey collaboration would sound like. I love his gospel song Only One Night Tho. He came up with this song on the spot during a concert. He's innovative and has millions of fans who sing his songs. I am going tweet them both this morning for a collaboration.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 13:34)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,740)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC has to let him take control to do what he does best. I love the interview he gave to Entertainment Weekly how WBT came about. That is all she needs to have a hit album again.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 13:24)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,739)
by Stacey from USA
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Same. There's a reason why LA Reid is a successful record exec. ILT, SIO, and WBT are hawt. Radio hadn't been kind to MC for years since Rainbow. But when TOEM was released, radio had to play it (aka WBT.) That song is so good, radio was forced to play it. MC can strike gold again. Just put out good music and promote it.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 04:15)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,739)
by Stacey from USA
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Same. There's a reason why LA Reid is a successful record exec. ILT, SIO, and WBT are hawt. Radio hadn't been kind to MC for years since Rainbow. But when TOEM was released, radio had to play it (aka WBT.) That song is so good, radio was forced to play it. MC can strike gold again. Just put out good music and promote it.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 04:15)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,734)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Everyday I thank LA Reid for telling Mariah to go back and record with JD hahah after she had initially completed TEOM without ILT, WBT, SIO and GYN. WBT is the most perfect song, masterpiece that should be studied but would have been a mess if it was just whispers.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:55)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,738)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Nanaimo. My aunt lives there, as does Mariah's gal pal Pamala Anderson. They feature a lot of her home there in her amazing documentary that she did a year or so ago. Also, it's home to the unbelievable desert "Nanaimo Bars", if you're a sweets lover, definitely try this treat if you get the chance.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 02:25)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,733)
by Stacey from USA
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Rumor has it MC wanted to sing WBT with whisper vocals and JD insisted on full voice vocals. Can you imagine that song as a whisper track? Perish the thought. Yikes. MC is a masterpiece. But like all of us isn't perfect. Even the greatest basketball player, Michael Jordan, said all the shots he missed made him better. I mean, the guy was cut from his high school basketball team. I'll always advocate MC keep realists on her team, people not afraid to say no to Mariah. Shoot, Celine didn't want to sing My Heart Will Go On and ultimately gave in and did it. Good decision, don't ya think?
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:23)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,737)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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We need a recording hahah. We Belong Together (RA's late night whisper version).
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 01:45)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,736)
by Bobby A from United States
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Lol. I tried the first verse in the whisper range and couldn't make it pass the first two words.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 01:24)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,736)
by Bobby A from United States
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Lol. I tried the first verse in the whisper range and couldn't make it pass the first two words.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 01:24)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,734)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Everyday I thank LA Reid for telling Mariah to go back and record with JD hahah after she had initially completed TEOM without ILT, WBT, SIO and GYN. WBT is the most perfect song, masterpiece that should be studied but would have been a mess if it was just whispers.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:55)
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New album (105,735)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I can so hear Mariah on a song like Snooze. I am here for a collaboration between them.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:56)
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New album (105,732)
by Bobby A from United States
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Great post Jamie. After reading your post, I immediately thought of Sza and her ability to create these radio friendly songs that receive huge radio impressions despite Sza not having a great voice. Checkout Good Days, I Hate You, Shirt, Kill Bill and Snooze. If MC can create radio friendly songs with a nice beat without heaving belting and swooping runs, then she will do just fine with MC16. I am going to feel like a kid on Christmas day when I hit the play button on my new Mariah Carey album. At this point I don't care if I hear some vocal imperfections the new album. I just want an album that is fun and has quality music.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:16)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,734)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Everyday I thank LA Reid for telling Mariah to go back and record with JD hahah after she had initially completed TEOM without ILT, WBT, SIO and GYN. WBT is the most perfect song, masterpiece that should be studied but would have been a mess if it was just whispers.
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,733)
by Stacey from USA
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Rumor has it MC wanted to sing WBT with whisper vocals and JD insisted on full voice vocals. Can you imagine that song as a whisper track? Perish the thought. Yikes. MC is a masterpiece. But like all of us isn't perfect. Even the greatest basketball player, Michael Jordan, said all the shots he missed made him better. I mean, the guy was cut from his high school basketball team. I'll always advocate MC keep realists on her team, people not afraid to say no to Mariah. Shoot, Celine didn't want to sing My Heart Will Go On and ultimately gave in and did it. Good decision, don't ya think?
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:23)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,733)
by Stacey from USA
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Rumor has it MC wanted to sing WBT with whisper vocals and JD insisted on full voice vocals. Can you imagine that song as a whisper track? Perish the thought. Yikes. MC is a masterpiece. But like all of us isn't perfect. Even the greatest basketball player, Michael Jordan, said all the shots he missed made him better. I mean, the guy was cut from his high school basketball team. I'll always advocate MC keep realists on her team, people not afraid to say no to Mariah. Shoot, Celine didn't want to sing My Heart Will Go On and ultimately gave in and did it. Good decision, don't ya think?
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:23)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,726)
by Jamie from UK
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Problem with you is you want everyone to agree with what you think, but unfortunately they didn't, you lost this argument. Even the webmaster jumped in to say it.
I've seen that clip before, nobody ever wants to hear criticism but if you can accept it and learn from it then all the better. I'm not hating on her and being negative like some none fans are on twitter. I just think a bit of constructive criticism would be good at times with Mariah as I only want the best for her as do a lot of people on this forum hence why we're so passionate. If you think that your gonna come here and not hear fans give constructive criticism at times with something they choose not to like then your gonna be constantly disappointed. As a fan you're allowed to not like certain songs, it doesn't make you any less of a fan.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:50)
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New album (105,732)
by Bobby A from United States
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Great post Jamie. After reading your post, I immediately thought of Sza and her ability to create these radio friendly songs that receive huge radio impressions despite Sza not having a great voice. Checkout Good Days, I Hate You, Shirt, Kill Bill and Snooze. If MC can create radio friendly songs with a nice beat without heaving belting and swooping runs, then she will do just fine with MC16. I am going to feel like a kid on Christmas day when I hit the play button on my new Mariah Carey album. At this point I don't care if I hear some vocal imperfections the new album. I just want an album that is fun and has quality music.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 23:16)
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New album (105,727)
by Jamie from UK
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I think she's just gonna have to go with it, I feel there's never a great time to release albums especially when you're up against all the latest trends. I think she should just release a great album and what will be will be. But we need a great promotion strategy, plenty of appearances, interviews and a lead song that's gonna grab the attention of radio. It's so much harder with the older artists to get the radio airplay that they need, but I'm hoping Mariah has a great album up her sleeve. I loved Caution, But we need some more uptempo tracks with a lighter carefree sound.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:58)
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General public or bad decisions (105,731)
by Stacey from USA
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I've visited Vancouver. It's been a hot minute though, 1990, lol. It was beautiful. We visited Vancouver Island, stayed in a town called Nanaimo. Traveled over to the Canadian Rockies, visited Lake Louise, down to Calgary, and into Montana to see Glacier National Park. My dad loved to travel. Beautiful country.
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General public or bad decisions (105,723)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I love the west coast. Vancouver's nickname is Raincover because it rains a lot, but I live side the beautiful beaches and ocean, the mountains are only 20 mins away, palm trees the whole bit. It's gorgeous. I love Guelph though, it's a beautiful city, super old downtown lots to do, and so close to Toronto so tons of Broadway shows, sporting events and concerts just 45 mins away. My brother still lives in Guelph and loves it. Thanks for asking. Where about in the USA do you live T?
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I Don't (105,730)
by Bobby A from United States
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I see now. It does sound perfect on those parts. I remember that VOL performance. I felt so bad for MC when she sang it, but she pushed through a song she wrote in such a high key and with all of those runs 30 years ago. I was mistaken about ITC. She performed it on the Fashion Rocks primetime special in 2008.
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I Don't (105,725)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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It's the usual playback: the most demanding parts. In "I Don't": the chorus "'Cause when you love someone, you just don't treat them bad..." and the final belting part. I mean, the parts sung perfectly well. She did a really good job on both occasions and her voice was in a really good condition at that time.
Another impressive performance was VOL at Jimmy Kimmel. By the way, I don't know which "I'm That Chick" performance you're referring to.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:11)
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YAR CD single (105,729)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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This would have been fire.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 22:23)
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YAR CD single (105,707)
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The single should have had three songs. The Max Martin pop mix that we got. A reimagined David Morales extended dance mix with even bigger vocals from both girls. And a reimagined So So Def urban remix with whisper vocals. This should've been planned for months before the single release, for the nostalgia.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:13)
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,728)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Haha thank you. I was thinking like ya if they don't have a budget for a music video at least these smaller fun videos could have fed the engagements. Also just giving some context to why they did they song would be nice because a lot of people were confused why Mariah on a song like this and not something like "Positions", "POV" and TUN. So much potential especially in this era of social media where people lose focus and move on from things so fast they should have done more to highlight the song. When I saw the whole them changing profile photos together, having physical CDs ready and the short video of them together I was like wow they'll go all in. Finally something solid haha only for them to drop it like it's hot.
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,715)
by 123 from USA
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Mimi L, they should have hired you as head of the promo team. I like your ideas.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:27)
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I think she's just gonna have to go with it, I feel there's never a great time to release albums especially when you're up against all the latest trends. I think she should just release a great album and what will be will be. But we need a great promotion strategy, plenty of appearances, interviews and a lead song that's gonna grab the attention of radio. It's so much harder with the older artists to get the radio airplay that they need, but I'm hoping Mariah has a great album up her sleeve. I loved Caution, But we need some more uptempo tracks with a lighter carefree sound.
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I feel today that MC is going to wait until the Taylor and Dua release their albums first. We are probably looking at August or September now.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 14:22)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,726)
by Jamie from UK
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Problem with you is you want everyone to agree with what you think, but unfortunately they didn't, you lost this argument. Even the webmaster jumped in to say it.
I've seen that clip before, nobody ever wants to hear criticism but if you can accept it and learn from it then all the better. I'm not hating on her and being negative like some none fans are on twitter. I just think a bit of constructive criticism would be good at times with Mariah as I only want the best for her as do a lot of people on this forum hence why we're so passionate. If you think that your gonna come here and not hear fans give constructive criticism at times with something they choose not to like then your gonna be constantly disappointed. As a fan you're allowed to not like certain songs, it doesn't make you any less of a fan.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:50)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,716)
by JC from United States
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Buying a cd doesn't allow you to make demands about her voice and career, nobody forced you. You will never get it. Tell me how you feel about watching this.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:31)
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