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#Hermosa video (38,530) by enwar00 from usa I like the #Hermosa video, it's cute. I think I prefer it over the original, seems natural and I like the scenery. I personally don't mind that it's the Spanglish version of the song, it doesn't offend me at all. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 16:25)

Re: Stacey (38,529) by Terna from Nigeria What Grammy performance are you talking about? The 2006 one where she did We Belong Together and segued into Fly Like A Bird? That was 100 percent live. I suggest you watch it again. Her adlibs are even different on the Grammy performance and more raw. So Mariah lips, big deal. All the others do it too. It's not the end of the world. I'd rather see she does it once in awhile instead of singing live every single time. As a singer you save your voice and use it only when necessary, that's your primary instrument. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 16:02)

Mariah Carey Unplugged re. Stephen from London (38,528) by Joe from United Kingdom It's ok, looking back I can see how my previous post could of been taken in that way, no worries. To everyone saying that she should do some type of unplugged show case, I couldn't agree more. IMO Mariah sings and sounds so much better in stripped back performances, wether that means acoustic or acapella, it just allows her voice to shine a lot more instead of lipping notes or really heavy production. I also think she should concentrate less on what she looks like, because when she used to lip sync tough notes, it was seamless that a non-fan wouldn't notice. Recently it's painfully obvious, because she tries to look cute while doing it and she's late on her cues a lot now aswell or the play-back volume is just way to low compared to the real mic voice volume. Just my observation. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 15:09)

Best (38,527) by George Golden from UK Finally a viewer friendly video of Beautiful. I know we all get mad at Mariah at times. But lets not forget she has given us so many amazing songs. She is after all imperfect like the rest of us. People can say what they like about Mariah, but she is the best. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 13:20)

Edward (38,526) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I think you're right, now is the right time for Mariah to go unplugged or do something like Storytellers, where she sings a few songs acoustically. I actually think that she could handle that better than we think, even with her voice in its current state. The reason being that her voice lends itself better to acoustic singing, than it does to trying to recreate these high production value songs live. It might be easier for Mariah to showcase what she actually has left in the tank. When she goes acapella, she always seems to sound good. I think her performances are more powerful when kept simple in any event. All this stage production is unnecessary. She needs to take control of the stage and just sing. I think the chances of Mariah doing it are unlikely, as people will obviously compare it to the original Unplugged, to which there is no comparison. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 11:21)

Mariah sounded great on GMA reheasals and it was live (38,525) by jaker20 from US So I'm not understanding why she can't sing live and sound great when it matters. First Idol, now this. It's a miracle that even with these performances Beautiful is charting at all. Which just tells you how great the song is. If she had done well on recent performances, the song would be flying up the charts. How about singing the song in a TV show which no rapper, no nothing. Just her an Miguel. Do it like how she did at Fallon. Its a short song, and her part is half. Why is this so difficult to do for her? Also, Mr. Webmaster, I know my previous post was too strong, so here it is I soften it a little. I hope you post this, and I'll move on from this topic. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 7:37)

Mariah performances (38,524) by Matthew from USA First off, I want to say that I thought the intro to #Beautiful at the BET awards was pretty amazing, lip-synch or no. It was a moment for sure. The diva has arrived. Anyway, Randy, I do disagree with you. MC should not follow Whitney. Whitney kept it real and went on stage sounding terrible. Her legacy is tarnished. Whitney Houston is still a legend, but also a cautionary tale. That is her legacy, and it's not the legacy I want for MC. So if Mariah's voice is that shot, then I say lip-synch for your life, girl. Lol. The last thing she needs to do is go on stage sounding beat. The media would never let her live it down. Here's what I suggest. She needs to do Unplugged, part two. Just her and a band on stage, and it needs to be advertised as an intimate unplugged concert. But, not only does it need to be unplugged vocally, but image-wise as well, and that's the tricky part. Because MC does not seem to want to dress it down ever again. There is always a sparkling mic, a wind-machine, an elaborate curve hugging gown, six inch stilettos and a girdle involved. And she is turned to the side and sucking in her stomach. And let's be real, even the best of singers would be hampered with all that going on. So she needs to go unplugged all the way. After that, she will have room to lip all she wants cause she already proved her point. But can MC kick off her shoes and let her hair down and be the girl next door for one night? (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 6:46)

Is it the right time for Mariah to go unplug? (38,523) by Edward from USA I think this is the right time for Mariah to go unplug with five or six tracks. It would shut down this bad press. I don't know if her voice would be ready for it though. She definitely needs to bring it, since it would take more than us hardcore fans to make this new era successful. #Beautiful is getting some momentum in sales after the BET performance. The two versions combined place her at No. 11 on iTunes. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 3:45)

Live (38,522) by Musti from UK I can't sit here and pretend to know exactly why she's been lipping a lot. But here is a theory. Maybe her problem is maintaining vocal consistency throughout a song. I remember back when TEOM was released, JD had said that We Belong Together was so last minute that Mariah recorded it only in 1 take. I don't think that has happened since WBT. I believe her albums versions are a compound of different segments from different takes. I think that's exactly the case with #Beautiful Jeezy Remix and the BET prerecorded version. It feels like every breath she takes has been copied and pasted into the song to make one whole. That is not to say she can't sing a full song in one go, but that it simply wouldn't be vocally/musically consistent. However it also means that the end results are songs that are beyond her ability to perform live. Especially since E=MC2 and particularly when performing at awards shows, she got into the habit of half singing half lipping to try to maintain this consistency but as we all know she is a terrible lipper. She's better at concerts because she goofs around and doesn't really fully sing any song. But resorting to full lipping at BET after a couple of performances where she's been accused of lipping was probably the worst decision she has made in years. Every live performance since the AI medley has come under attack. She should've come back with a full live performance with whatever she's got. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 3:09)

Randy (38,516) (38,521) by Stacey from USA Well said. MC on her worst days live sounds better than these young starlets on their best days, lol. It's totally true. For me, it's not the lipping that bothers me. All singers do it at one point. It's that she's doing it all the time now and it's so obvious. At the Grammys 2006 performance, WBT was all live, but toward the end of FLAB, you could tell she was lipping. I would do after singing WBT 100% live, lol. It's ok to lip notes here and there. What bothers me is that it was so obvious at AI and the BET awards. I watched a spot on E! News today about the awards and the press MC got was not flattering. That's not the kind of media coverage you want with a new album waiting in the wings. It's freaking Mariah Carey. Arrange the songs differently to sing them live, but just sing them live. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 2:57)

BET Awards (38,520) by Special K from USA Mariah, really? (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 1:04)

Will (38,519) by CDC from CA I forgot about the "X, Y and Z do it so why is Mariah the one to be crucified" excuse. I don't think that justifies Mariah's repetitive lip synching. I see everyone talking about the past and the distant future, but what about the now? "#Beautiful" and the upcoming album aside, if she continues this pattern, do you think anyone will be willing to pay hundreds of dollars to see her in the recently announced tour? How do you think Beyonce managed to sell all those tickets when she had neither a single nor album to promote. It is because of the the entertaining, inspiring and high energy show she delivered at the Super Bowl, and the same qualities that were exhibited on the Super Bowl stage were delivered on her tour. What exactly is it that would excite viewers of the Idol, GMA or BET performances to attend one of Mariah's shows? Shoddy lip-synching, lifeless presence, and an out-of-date "diva" routine?If one just saw Mariah Carey perform on stage, and all that can be said is that she "looked great", then there is an unquestionable problem. (Tuesday 2 July 2013; 0:18)

Will / Randy / Marvin (38,518) by RadChad from United States First I want to say I used the wrong emoji in my last post. I meant to use face instead of this face. Not that that's out the way. Will: I agree with most of what you said, though I would say MC definitely needs to properly practice/prepare for her next performance, she also needs to over care and maintain her voice so that she can slay it totally live (I still believe in her). Marvin: I also wasn't totally convinced that the intro was lip sung, and I totally agree with Will that it proves that she still has it. She just need to groom and nurture it, so that it can flourish. Randy: Will was actually right in that Whitney Houston has lip sung before as well. It a proven fact that her iconic rendition of the national anthem was in fact a prerecorded vocal and I can think of at least one other performance she has lipped as well. So has many other top notch vocalist, maybe not as much as MC, but they definitely have. That's all. (Monday 1 July 2013; 22:31)

Intro (38,517) by Marvin from South africa Am I the only one thinking the intro and (some parts of) the song was actually live? (Monday 1 July 2013; 19:22)

Will from England (38,516) by Randy from USA I disagree with you totally. Yes I am sure Celine Dion lips sometimes and so does Beyonce. Whitney never did. She would go on stage and sound horrible. She would apologize and give an excuse. To me that's a soldier. Check her performances at Divas 2004 and GMA in 2009. I suffered from ear bleeds and embarrassment and had to see my therapist lol. Whitney did that because her legacy was her voice. What is Mariah's legacy? Her voice. What's so odd, and I agree with whoever said this earlier, she seems to be able to sing in candid moments or whenever she's onstage in concert. Why is it so difficult on television? That is when it counts. The audiences are non-MC fans. I love MC. Lord knows I do. But, she is a singer. That is her job. That's what made her famous. I am a teacher. If I do not teach, I get fired. What happens when a singer doesn't sing? And final point. This is Mariah Carey. If you ask anyone about her, they mention the voice. It's Mariah Carey. Ciara sang live. So did Tamela Mann. Effortlessly. It is Mariah Carey. That's why we're making a big deal. She should be able to sing live. I'm going to say it one more time at risk of the webmaster editing the post. It's Mariah Carey. (Monday 1 July 2013; 18:54)

Will (38,515) by Licia from USA I see what you are saying and I agree about her legacy. I'm mad about the lip syncing, but noone can ever take away what she has accomplished. As much as I love Whitney, she was a drug addict, but after she died her legacy was still intact. She's still the woman with the great voice. No one even mentions her little problem. It will be the same for Mariah. Her legacy is fine. (Monday 1 July 2013; 17:49)

Lip synching (38,514) by Will from England The lip synching won't ruin her career. Stop being so dramatic about the whole thing. This isn't the first time that she has lipped, and there is no question that it will be the last. Plenty of other performers (regardless of how well they can or cannot sing) lip. Celine Dion lips many of her performances, but do you see her career crashing down around her? No. True, she isn't out and about like Mariah, but my point still remains. I'm sure Whitney lipped a few times as well. Beyonce is another and yet she is still somewhat going strong. This is nothing new and yes, I'm sure Mariah is very much aware of what is being said. The intro to that performance was a brand new vocal from her, that she had to record, so to me, that shows that she can still very much sing. And besides, what would you rather have: articles saying how her voice cracked and that she cannot sing at all, or having just small articles that says that she lipped. We've heard the snippets of her singing acapella on different songs. She can still sing. This whole thing seems to have started after her voice cracked during MJ's funeral, and everyone jumped on it like it was gold. That's my theory in any case. As long as there are no TV cameras around, I bet she can sing like there is no tomorrow. (Monday 1 July 2013; 15:55)

BET (38,513) by Anonymous from She needs to change the arrangements and remove the intricate backing vocals when performing. She makes it harder on herself by trying to sound exactly like the record. She needs to either only perform simpler songs or stop all together. I believe she can still sing. Is her voice the same as it was? No, it's not and everyone knows it. (Monday 1 July 2013; 15:13)

Lip syncing (38,512) by Lee from UK The only people who can get away with lip syncing are drag queens during a cabaret act. When a singer does it on stage it looks really silly. It's like watching a mime perform to a cd. To top it all off, she has the audacity to stand there with a microphone as if we are to believe that it's actually switched on and she is actually singing into it when in actual fact, it's nothing more than a prop at this point. If Mariah doesn't want to, isn't able to, or doesn't enjoy singing live anymore, then she should stick to the studio and let the TV shows just play the video. The only other option is to record songs which can be sung live comfortably and confidently. (Monday 1 July 2013; 15:06)

Hater's ammunition (38,511) by Lee from UK Does Mariah assume that other people think she is singing live? How can she possibly believe that? Surely she reads reviews, blogs, and tweets. The disappointing thing is, she has never addressed the accusations of lip syncing. At least when Beyoncé was caught out, she came back the following performance and gave an out of this world "fuck you" to all the haters by nailing a live performance. That's what I'm waiting for from Mariah, a performance that is 100% live to vindicate the fans. She needs to give us fans (and those who are lambs) something to use against the haters. At the moment, all she is giving out is ammo to be used against her. (Monday 1 July 2013; 15:00)

Dear Mariah (38,510) by RadChad from United States You looked gorgeous. The intro was everything. But the madness must end. I can't anymore. I honestly could careless if you lip sync for you life to prerecorded vocals (as long as it isn't the CD version of the song ), but the world does and they're watching. I won't defend her because it is what it is and I won't attack her because I can put myself in her shoes and slightly understand. However this isn't working for you Mimi, and having a bad reputation for lip sycing consistently can tarnish your legacy. Having said that I still love you, will always be a fan, stand by you, and support your efforts, but some changes and reevaluations definitely needs to be made ASAP or else I don't know and neither will you. (Monday 1 July 2013; 15:00)

Joe (38,509) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Oh, sorry for misinterpreting your previous post. I totally agree with your post, especially the part re live concerts as compared to big televised ones. She seems more relaxed when doing shows for fans and lets the voice go a bit more, which resulted in some excellent vocal displays in Australia recently. However, when it comes to big TV performances, I don't think she has it any more. The last few TV performances prove that. It's bizarre to me at this point, and incredibly dissapointing. This era is incredibly weird. I don't know who her advisors are, but someone needs to sit her down and give her a good talking to. If there's such thing as vocal rehab, then she needs to go into rehab lol. It's embarrassing at this point, because I used to be cool with the fact that her voice was not what it was. I used to feel good about the fact that her voice, even in a deteriorated state, was still better than most other singers out there. I don't think I can say that anymore. There are a whole host of singers that would slay her on stage these days. That saddens me. (Monday 1 July 2013; 14:45)

BET Awards / proper lipping (38,508) by Edward from USA If Mariah were to lipsync for her life in a Rupaul's Drag race episode, she would lose big time. If she is not goig to sing, at least she should put an effort into lipsyncing convincedly. I loved the BET performance as a whole. The backing track was needed because #Beautiful is heavily layered, but the parts she lipsynced to weren't synchronized or at least believable. At this point, these performances are not even close to "The Return Of The Voice" era. Whatever is happening with her voice is not getting any better. I pray she could find a good doctor, like the one who saved Adel's voice. (Monday 1 July 2013; 14:30)

BET Awards performance re. Stephen from london (38,507) by Joe from United Kingdom Stephen, when I said I can predict the comments, I did'nt mean it in a way of being negative towards people. I completely agree with you. I just knew what was coming, that is all. I meant like here we go again with the lip syncing, like I was just real dissapointed and thought it was lazy of her to lip the entire thing. It's odd to me, at concerts she shows she's still capable of decent vocals, but she fails to deliver where it counts. Big televised performances since those are the performances that everyone will see. It just makes her look abit ridiculous. Glad I cleared that up. (Monday 1 July 2013; 14:04)

BET Beautiful Remix intro (38,506) by Licia from USA That Beautiful intro she did was everything and completely different from the studio version of the remix. If she would have sang that part live, I would be ok. Her redoing that intro before the show is proof that she still has it. I'll never understand why she just didn't sing that part at least. (Monday 1 July 2013; 13:45)

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