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Show some humanity (108,970) by MC85 from Canada I am so grateful that you took the time and the love and the fortitude to write and post this, especially on this board. Beautifully written. "I couldn't have said it better" isn't enough. *It couldn't be said better.* Period. You're the kind of true fan that I hope Mariah, somehow, knows that she still has, because she wouldn't know it reading the majority of the comments on this board. She's a human. She's flawed. She's a treasure. She saved lives. She's older. She has feelings. All are true. If you're a fan, a real fan, then you just have to love her. That's all. I do. (Monday 2 June 2025; 20:00) this is a reply to message 108,825

Show some humanity (108,825) by Manuel from Germany Dear people on this board, have you no heart? Honestly the negativity on this board is painful. Do any of you know what it's like to be her? It's waking up every day and remembering you're not allowed to just be. That if you sound tired, you're "washed up". If you're quiet or having fun with yourself, you're a "diva". If you gain weight, it's magnified - literally - with a lens. And now, if you're medicated [...] and are dealing with the loss of family members and the end of a relationship, you "had a stroke"? WTF? Being Mariah is having your voice - the very thing that saved you - become a measuring stick they beat you with. Your voice - your literal lifeline - being turned into a battlefield. Every note Mariah's ever sung has been dissected, including on this board. Praised, worshipped, mocked, measured. And when your voice is that good - the pressure to never slip is inhuman. I guess for her lip-syncing isn't lying. It's surviving. It's choosing to still show up when the heartbreak is louder than the applause. When she may rather feel like grieving. How many times has she stood in front of thousands of us while screaming inside? She's been singing through breakdowns, betrayals, miscarriages, racist industry BS, and a horrible childhood and youth before she was even famous. And yes, sometimes she shows up because she signed the paper, not because she is feeling it. But she goes on stage anyway, because she knows that somewhere you might be out there. Some kid like she once was, staring at the ceiling, praying to be loved. And if at this point her lipsync can keep that kid alive another night, she'll wear the diamonds and fake it. She doesn't do music, she is music. This isn't a job. It's not even a career. It's how she breathes. If you call yourself a lamb, you should know as much, because that's what drew you to her. And even when she tries to disappear, the music doesn't stop coming. This industry effed her over, again and again, pimped her pain, tried to own her. When you're a legend, they forget you're human. So quitting might look like freedom to you, but to her, that would feel like letting them win. Because that voice, even cracked, even lip-synced, even trembling is still her. And as long as she's got it, she'll use it how she chooses. Not for the charts. Not for the Grammys. Not for those greedy ones of you who see her as a product that is to remain Daydream Mariah forever. For her. And for the ones who still need it. And if you don't need it, leave. She is an artist. She knows that when she walks on that stage, somebody in that crowd remembers who they are, because they see her still fighting to be. She was never supposed to make it. A mixed-race girl with a broken home, bipolar disorder, and a five-octave range? Please. But here she is. Still here. Still selling out stadiums. Not because the industry let her. But because she refused to disappear. So have some humanity inside you and stop projecting your unresolved issues on her. Imagine yourselves in her position. When she is ready, she will speak her truth. Until then, enjoy what she has to offer now, or enjoy her legacy. It's all there. She is as real as it gets right now, medicated and all. That is her, a human being. And she is still showing up, looking like a goddess, selling out, going number one every year. Love to you all. (Friday 23 May 2025; 00:28)

MC16 (108,969) by MusicfanJ from Germany Wow, I must admit I didn't expect it after all the projects and time shifting. MC16 is on the way. (Monday 2 June 2025; 19:25) this is a reply to message 108,957

MC16 (108,957) by Jamie from UK Looks like MC16 is on its way? (Monday 2 June 2025; 16:17)

MC16 (108,968) by jaker20 from US If that is for real I will eat everything I said. (Monday 2 June 2025; 19:17)

MC16 (108,967) by Carlos from Brazil MC16 in 2025 is real. (Monday 2 June 2025; 19:17) this is a reply to message 108,955

MC16 (108,955) by Max from Germany I can just scream. (Monday 2 June 2025; 15:57)

MC16 (108,966) by Tevin from USA I want to publicly apologize to Bobby A, for doubting that MC16 was coming. Your optimism paid off, looks like a new era is about to start. (Monday 2 June 2025; 18:44)

MC16 (108,965) by Bobby A from United States Lol. I spilled my coffee. The Mimi Sessions was a clue that missed. MC said don't count me out yet Lambs. MC16 is on the way. (Monday 2 June 2025; 18:08) this is a reply to message 108,955

MC16 (108,955) by Max from Germany I can just scream. (Monday 2 June 2025; 15:57)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,964) by Bobby A from United States Lambi, sorry for thinking you were also Baby from Dreamville. Your posts are simliar in length and style to Baby from Dreamville. Maybe he or she will post today. I am glad you are here on the board. Please stick around for as long as you would like. I hope you understand that we are a tight group of board members who only want the best for MC. We have been through all of MC's highs and lows in the past 30 years. We can get very defensive questioning some of her professional decisions. However, it seems like we can all be happy again today because MC16 is finally on the way. (Monday 2 June 2025; 18:05) this is a reply to message 108,950

Music Box vs Daydream (108,950) by Lambi from USA That's a new one. I'm very new here. Please show me this baby you speak of. I'd like to see if he is as strong debater and doesn't resort to calling anyone a "yasss queen". But the bone I pick with Edward is because he made a big deal with me saying Mariah is avoiding wrinkles. Which btw, is a very verifiable fact. I'm just throwing the ball back way harder now because you don't do that to new comers. I'm finding out he's rather weak in debate and can't actually defend why he believes what he believes. His points are easily debunkable and he can't present you any fact. [censored] He made fun of Mariah. A couple people stood up for Mariah and called him nasty. He now then say "wow okay I guess I'll just hibernate aw I'm so sad". Its like he did the bullying and now he's the victim. Do you see the level of derangement? And with you? I don't have any problem. You're rather polite. We disagree with Solange's remix but you've never been rude. Hope this helps. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:12)

Article: Mariah Carey teases 16th studio album (108,963) by Bobby A from United States This is a surprise this morning. What's Your Type? - must be the first single. Is that the question she asked Anderson .Paak? Lol. You know it is funny that we get this news today. I sent an X message yesterday to Rae Khalil, Anderson .Paak's songwriting partner asking her if WBT part 2 was on the way. Also, I sent an X message yesterday to MC, Barbra, Ariana, and some pop morning show radio hosts (Bert Ferguson, Elvis Duran, and IHeart Radio) if they were ready for One Heart One Voice to take over radio in 26 days. MC and her team must have plan to capitalize on the OHOV release this month. Are we ready for MC to take over radio this summer? Isn't this what we having wanting for 3 years? (Monday 2 June 2025; 17:50)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,962) by Stacey from USA Yeah, no kidding. I became a fan during the MB era. Once I heard Hero, the rest they say is history. Daydream is my favorite album because it represents all what makes Mariah amazing - r&b and pop mixed to perfection. There is such a depth to her voice. But make no mistake, Daydream doesn't happen without MB, Emotions, and the debut. I am forever grateful I've got so many priceless songs to listen to. (Monday 2 June 2025; 17:42) this is a reply to message 108,956

Music Box vs Daydream (108,956) by Jamie from UK Wow, you're a very angry person. (Monday 2 June 2025; 16:16)

MC 16 (108,961) by Shezz from Pk Well - it looks like the drunk / addict / washed up / has been / stroke survivor / Christmas only act still has a little more left to say to us after all. Robert Anthony I told you not to lose hope but you kept creeping into the dark side. (Monday 2 June 2025; 17:40)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,960) by Tevin from USA That's a great take on those albums. (Monday 2 June 2025; 17:25) this is a reply to message 108,933

Music Box vs Daydream (108,933) by Edward from USA Lyrically, I prefer Daydream, but vocally, Music Box reigns supreme in my book. While her voice on Daydream was like pure butter, smooth, nuanced, and mature, on Music Box, it was fuller, more powerful and with a richness difficult to match. Mariah Carey, Music Box, and Merry Christmas are the only albums where Mariah came closest to matching Whitney’s level of resonance and vocal power. Daydream still featured incredible vocals, strong, expressive, and technically refined, but it leaned more into buttery tone and artistic subtlety rather than sheer vocal force. As an overall body of work, Daydream was more mature and creatively sophisticated than Music Box, but vocally, Music Box was a powerhouse. As much as I love myself some Music Box, Daydream is the better album in my humble opinion. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:10)

The simplest explanation is the best explanation (108,959) by Tevin from USA Honestly, I wish she would get back into writing for others. Nobody can touch her pen game. Nobody. (Monday 2 June 2025; 17:16) this is a reply to message 108,932

The simplest explanation is the best explanation (108,932) by Lambi from USA I actually believe the human singing voice is perfected through Mariah. She can quite literally do everything and more. God was like: "She's just gonna sound out of this world, in every register, and her songwriting will blow everyone out of the water, oh and I'll put her in charge of my holiday." Her voice is a literal gift from the heavens above but it also came with a bit of a curse. Mariah has nodules. Her ability to whistle eventually worsened her nodules. Her voice was the money maker, because she was poor and is deeply afraid of the rug being pulled from under her. She worked her voice to the extremes. Songwriting also happen to make bank in royalties so she went crazy hard on that too. She simply overworked her gifts. End end. These nose jobs and alcoholism theories sound so elementary. No other singer will have a similar decline diagnoses because Mariah is simply built different. A cut above the rest. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 00:33)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,958) by Tevin from USA Also, add to the fact that when she was forced to stop drinking (while she was pregnant), her tone and clarity improved to a point that I would dare say, we haven't heard since Glitter. (Monday 2 June 2025; 17:14) this is a reply to message 108,927

Nasty, nasty comment (108,927) by Edward from USA If you're going to be a "Yass Queen", at least own it with pride. Facts don't care about your feelings, they remain facts, whether you like them or not. And clearly, for some of you, the truth is like kryptonite. It's well documented that Mariah Carey indulged in heavy drinking, especially around the time leading up to the release of Butterfly. Her voice was never quite the same afterward. She's been drunk in public many times, so it's not like she had a secret. While it may not have been his place to speak on it, even her brother mentioned that she was drinking while on her bipolar meds. Eminem, in his track The Warning, didn't hold back either, outright calling her an alcoholic. Say what you want, but the receipts have been there for a long time. And as much as I love Mariah, with the state of her voice today, she wouldn't even make it to audition in front of the judges on American Idol. Her voice is completely shot. But of course, in La La Land, she's still "slaying". Reality, however, paints a very different picture. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 17:22)

MC16 (108,957) by Jamie from UK Looks like MC16 is on its way? (Monday 2 June 2025; 16:17)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,956) by Jamie from UK Wow, you're a very angry person. (Monday 2 June 2025; 16:16) this is a reply to message 108,954

Music Box vs Daydream (108,954) by Lambi from USA Let's do a rerun: You: Alcoholism is why. *Beyonce debunks it* You: MC MB M Christmas the only formidable *Asian women who wins contests annually debunk by a landslide* You: you have another account don't you. [censored] LMAO It's so sad to see you unravel like this. Perhaps the yellow school bus didn't go up to mines because it was stuck at yours. (Monday 2 June 2025; 13:29)

MC16 (108,955) by Max from Germany I can just scream. (Monday 2 June 2025; 15:57)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,954) by Lambi from USA Let's do a rerun: You: Alcoholism is why. *Beyonce debunks it* You: MC MB M Christmas the only formidable *Asian women who wins contests annually debunk by a landslide* You: you have another account don't you. [censored] LMAO It's so sad to see you unravel like this. Perhaps the yellow school bus didn't go up to mines because it was stuck at yours. (Monday 2 June 2025; 13:29) this is a reply to message 108,952

Music Box vs Daydream (108,952) by Edward from USA Your delusion isn't an at ad hominem attack, it's a documented fact, backed by your own words. You never challenged anything. It's evident the little yellow bus doesn't go up there where you live. (Monday 2 June 2025; 13:00)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,953) by TJ from Norway It's time to grow up. (Monday 2 June 2025; 13:21) this is a reply to message 108,950

Music Box vs Daydream (108,950) by Lambi from USA That's a new one. I'm very new here. Please show me this baby you speak of. I'd like to see if he is as strong debater and doesn't resort to calling anyone a "yasss queen". But the bone I pick with Edward is because he made a big deal with me saying Mariah is avoiding wrinkles. Which btw, is a very verifiable fact. I'm just throwing the ball back way harder now because you don't do that to new comers. I'm finding out he's rather weak in debate and can't actually defend why he believes what he believes. His points are easily debunkable and he can't present you any fact. [censored] He made fun of Mariah. A couple people stood up for Mariah and called him nasty. He now then say "wow okay I guess I'll just hibernate aw I'm so sad". Its like he did the bullying and now he's the victim. Do you see the level of derangement? And with you? I don't have any problem. You're rather polite. We disagree with Solange's remix but you've never been rude. Hope this helps. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:12)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,952) by Edward from USA Your delusion isn't an at ad hominem attack, it's a documented fact, backed by your own words. You never challenged anything. It's evident the little yellow bus doesn't go up there where you live. (Monday 2 June 2025; 13:00) this is a reply to message 108,949

Music Box vs Daydream (108,949) by Lambi from USA I have never made another account here, and if I have, I would not name it "baby" lmfao. Like actually what do you mean? Because I present verifiable facts and consistently prove you wrong? You basically have no argument so you resort to calling someone deluded "yasss queen", when you're quite literally deluded with your alcoholism theory. It's weird you make fun of people's post but then when your opinions are challenged you can't defend them with facts. It's like you haven't grown any muscle in years. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:09)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,951) by Lambi from USA I named Bill on the part that was censored. Not Edward. Just for clarification. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:20) this is a reply to message 108,950

Music Box vs Daydream (108,950) by Lambi from USA That's a new one. I'm very new here. Please show me this baby you speak of. I'd like to see if he is as strong debater and doesn't resort to calling anyone a "yasss queen". But the bone I pick with Edward is because he made a big deal with me saying Mariah is avoiding wrinkles. Which btw, is a very verifiable fact. I'm just throwing the ball back way harder now because you don't do that to new comers. I'm finding out he's rather weak in debate and can't actually defend why he believes what he believes. His points are easily debunkable and he can't present you any fact. [censored] He made fun of Mariah. A couple people stood up for Mariah and called him nasty. He now then say "wow okay I guess I'll just hibernate aw I'm so sad". Its like he did the bullying and now he's the victim. Do you see the level of derangement? And with you? I don't have any problem. You're rather polite. We disagree with Solange's remix but you've never been rude. Hope this helps. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:12)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,950) by Lambi from USA That's a new one. I'm very new here. Please show me this baby you speak of. I'd like to see if he is as strong debater and doesn't resort to calling anyone a "yasss queen". But the bone I pick with Edward is because he made a big deal with me saying Mariah is avoiding wrinkles. Which btw, is a very verifiable fact. I'm just throwing the ball back way harder now because you don't do that to new comers. I'm finding out he's rather weak in debate and can't actually defend why he believes what he believes. His points are easily debunkable and he can't present you any fact. [censored] He made fun of Mariah. A couple people stood up for Mariah and called him nasty. He now then say "wow okay I guess I'll just hibernate aw I'm so sad". Its like he did the bullying and now he's the victim. Do you see the level of derangement? And with you? I don't have any problem. You're rather polite. We disagree with Solange's remix but you've never been rude. Hope this helps. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:12) this is a reply to message 108,948

Music Box vs Daydream (108,948) by Bobby A from United States I thought my speculation three weeks ago was correct. Lambi is Baby from Dreamville's alternate ego. I could never pull off a second account knowing how my writing style and tone is so recognizable. Writing this post makes me think about how my old mate Andrew would call me out so many times for my opinions and predictions. Anyway, Lambi/Baby from Dreamville must be watching how Y&R is dragging out this Aristotle Dumas huge reveal. (Monday 2 June 2025; 10:55)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,949) by Lambi from USA I have never made another account here, and if I have, I would not name it "baby" lmfao. Like actually what do you mean? Because I present verifiable facts and consistently prove you wrong? You basically have no argument so you resort to calling someone deluded "yasss queen", when you're quite literally deluded with your alcoholism theory. It's weird you make fun of people's post but then when your opinions are challenged you can't defend them with facts. It's like you haven't grown any muscle in years. (Monday 2 June 2025; 12:09) this is a reply to message 108,947

Music Box vs Daydream (108,947) by Edward from USA Your level of "yass queen" delusion is impressive, congrats. Mariah is definitely the better overall artist, but neither she nor Celine could touch Whitney when it comes to pure vocal power and resonance. So, before you and your other account keep hyping each other up in your little echo chamber, take several seats. If you're going to reply to a certain post, at least make some sense. (Monday 2 June 2025; 06:28)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,948) by Bobby A from United States I thought my speculation three weeks ago was correct. Lambi is Baby from Dreamville's alternate ego. I could never pull off a second account knowing how my writing style and tone is so recognizable. Writing this post makes me think about how my old mate Andrew would call me out so many times for my opinions and predictions. Anyway, Lambi/Baby from Dreamville must be watching how Y&R is dragging out this Aristotle Dumas huge reveal. (Monday 2 June 2025; 10:55) this is a reply to message 108,947

Music Box vs Daydream (108,947) by Edward from USA Your level of "yass queen" delusion is impressive, congrats. Mariah is definitely the better overall artist, but neither she nor Celine could touch Whitney when it comes to pure vocal power and resonance. So, before you and your other account keep hyping each other up in your little echo chamber, take several seats. If you're going to reply to a certain post, at least make some sense. (Monday 2 June 2025; 06:28)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,947) by Edward from USA Your level of "yass queen" delusion is impressive, congrats. Mariah is definitely the better overall artist, but neither she nor Celine could touch Whitney when it comes to pure vocal power and resonance. So, before you and your other account keep hyping each other up in your little echo chamber, take several seats. If you're going to reply to a certain post, at least make some sense. (Monday 2 June 2025; 06:28) this is a reply to message 108,945

Music Box vs Daydream (108,945) by Lambi from USA In Asia, during a grand finale of a singing contest, virtually nobody uses any song from Mariah Carey, Music Box or Merry Christmas. Like when others are singing Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" or Celine's "Power Of Love". The lambily contestants would will their artillery with "Through The Rain", "Can't Take That Away", "Forever", "Never Too Far", "Butterfly" or "My All" and majority of the time, the lambs would take home the grand prize. Probably because Mariah just wrote it with higher difficulty level. Those are her best vocal performances. Once again, the market of singers have spoken, you're objectively wrong. Whitney is also the one that has to level up and match Mariah by the way, not the other way around. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 23:16)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,946) by Lighty from China Don't forget about Ken Lee a.k.a. Without You. (Monday 2 June 2025; 05:43) this is a reply to message 108,945

Music Box vs Daydream (108,945) by Lambi from USA In Asia, during a grand finale of a singing contest, virtually nobody uses any song from Mariah Carey, Music Box or Merry Christmas. Like when others are singing Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" or Celine's "Power Of Love". The lambily contestants would will their artillery with "Through The Rain", "Can't Take That Away", "Forever", "Never Too Far", "Butterfly" or "My All" and majority of the time, the lambs would take home the grand prize. Probably because Mariah just wrote it with higher difficulty level. Those are her best vocal performances. Once again, the market of singers have spoken, you're objectively wrong. Whitney is also the one that has to level up and match Mariah by the way, not the other way around. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 23:16)

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