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Music Box vs Daydream (108,947) by Edward from USA Your level of "yass queen" delusion is impressive, congrats. Mariah is definitely the better overall artist, but neither she nor Celine could touch Whitney when it comes to pure vocal power and resonance. So, before you and your other account keep hyping each other up in your little echo chamber, take several seats. If you're going to reply to a certain post, at least make some sense. (Monday 2 June 2025; 06:28) this is a reply to message 108,945

Music Box vs Daydream (108,945) by Lambi from USA In Asia, during a grand finale of a singing contest, virtually nobody uses any song from Mariah Carey, Music Box or Merry Christmas. Like when others are singing Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" or Celine's "Power Of Love". The lambily contestants would will their artillery with "Through The Rain", "Can't Take That Away", "Forever", "Never Too Far", "Butterfly" or "My All" and majority of the time, the lambs would take home the grand prize. Probably because Mariah just wrote it with higher difficulty level. Those are her best vocal performances. Once again, the market of singers have spoken, you're objectively wrong. Whitney is also the one that has to level up and match Mariah by the way, not the other way around. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 23:16)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,946) by Lighty from China Don't forget about Ken Lee a.k.a. Without You. (Monday 2 June 2025; 05:43) this is a reply to message 108,945

Music Box vs Daydream (108,945) by Lambi from USA In Asia, during a grand finale of a singing contest, virtually nobody uses any song from Mariah Carey, Music Box or Merry Christmas. Like when others are singing Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" or Celine's "Power Of Love". The lambily contestants would will their artillery with "Through The Rain", "Can't Take That Away", "Forever", "Never Too Far", "Butterfly" or "My All" and majority of the time, the lambs would take home the grand prize. Probably because Mariah just wrote it with higher difficulty level. Those are her best vocal performances. Once again, the market of singers have spoken, you're objectively wrong. Whitney is also the one that has to level up and match Mariah by the way, not the other way around. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 23:16)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,945) by Lambi from USA In Asia, during a grand finale of a singing contest, virtually nobody uses any song from Mariah Carey, Music Box or Merry Christmas. Like when others are singing Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" or Celine's "Power Of Love". The lambily contestants would will their artillery with "Through The Rain", "Can't Take That Away", "Forever", "Never Too Far", "Butterfly" or "My All" and majority of the time, the lambs would take home the grand prize. Probably because Mariah just wrote it with higher difficulty level. Those are her best vocal performances. Once again, the market of singers have spoken, you're objectively wrong. Whitney is also the one that has to level up and match Mariah by the way, not the other way around. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 23:16) this is a reply to message 108,933

Music Box vs Daydream (108,933) by Edward from USA Lyrically, I prefer Daydream, but vocally, Music Box reigns supreme in my book. While her voice on Daydream was like pure butter, smooth, nuanced, and mature, on Music Box, it was fuller, more powerful and with a richness difficult to match. Mariah Carey, Music Box, and Merry Christmas are the only albums where Mariah came closest to matching Whitney’s level of resonance and vocal power. Daydream still featured incredible vocals, strong, expressive, and technically refined, but it leaned more into buttery tone and artistic subtlety rather than sheer vocal force. As an overall body of work, Daydream was more mature and creatively sophisticated than Music Box, but vocally, Music Box was a powerhouse. As much as I love myself some Music Box, Daydream is the better album in my humble opinion. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:10)

Whisper tone (108,944) by Bobby A from United States MC stopped singing in the whisper tone completely with MIAM and Caution. She either can't do it anymore or has realized what it did to her voice. I believe that she tried to do it on GTFO, but it didn't sound right for the Porter Robinson sample. The girly voice is what we got instead. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 20:44) this is a reply to message 108,942

Nasty, nasty comment (108,942) by Jamie from UK I also agree that the whisper voice she adopted contributed to damaging her voice. Not singing how she was meant to might have put strain on her voice. As said previously I think she chose to sing in this way, is it possible in the earlier later years that she forgot how to sing? We heard a return to power voice during [Glitter] but then sling came [Charmbracelet], I don't mind the album but her voice is annoying at times with the whisper and I just think to myself "just sing properly". (Sunday 1 June 2025; 16:21)

Favourites (108,943) by TJ from Norway They are my favourites too. The live version of If it's Over on SNL is out of this world. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 19:31) this is a reply to message 108,941

Nasty, nasty comment (108,941) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post. "I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics." I live in an wine region, we have many wine festivals here (i just went on Friday to one) it's our culture. But yes, who knows what really happened to Mariah's voice? I think it's an combination of everything. "Vision of love" and "If it's over" are one of my favourites. The sound, her voice, the lyrics. Out of this world, pure Mariah magic. She will always be the best, if you look at her 90ies catalogue. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 14:14)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,942) by Jamie from UK I also agree that the whisper voice she adopted contributed to damaging her voice. Not singing how she was meant to might have put strain on her voice. As said previously I think she chose to sing in this way, is it possible in the earlier later years that she forgot how to sing? We heard a return to power voice during [Glitter] but then sling came [Charmbracelet], I don't mind the album but her voice is annoying at times with the whisper and I just think to myself "just sing properly". (Sunday 1 June 2025; 16:21) this is a reply to message 108,939

Nasty, nasty comment (108,939) by TJ from Norway I don't know if I got your message right, so I wouldn't comment on that one, but some people do have a different sound after some years in the business, and other doesn't. If it is because of alcohol or not, I can't say. I know a few opera singers and they both drink and sing (concerts almost every day) with no problem combining that with drinking. I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics, but still keep singing. Whitney and Dionne Warwick both sounded different from their debut and later in their careers. If that's because of drugs, I don't know. I think Mariah for some years was pushing her voice over a long period of time (1991-1996) and that combined with the whispering voice (really hurt your voice). If you listen to her singing after her debut, her voice was much lover when she sang live than in her recordings. Anyway alcohol or not, we'll never get that sound again. I think I will be playing some Vision of Love today. And maybe some If it's Over. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:51)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,941) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post. "I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics." I live in an wine region, we have many wine festivals here (i just went on Friday to one) it's our culture. But yes, who knows what really happened to Mariah's voice? I think it's an combination of everything. "Vision of love" and "If it's over" are one of my favourites. The sound, her voice, the lyrics. Out of this world, pure Mariah magic. She will always be the best, if you look at her 90ies catalogue. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 14:14) this is a reply to message 108,939

Nasty, nasty comment (108,939) by TJ from Norway I don't know if I got your message right, so I wouldn't comment on that one, but some people do have a different sound after some years in the business, and other doesn't. If it is because of alcohol or not, I can't say. I know a few opera singers and they both drink and sing (concerts almost every day) with no problem combining that with drinking. I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics, but still keep singing. Whitney and Dionne Warwick both sounded different from their debut and later in their careers. If that's because of drugs, I don't know. I think Mariah for some years was pushing her voice over a long period of time (1991-1996) and that combined with the whispering voice (really hurt your voice). If you listen to her singing after her debut, her voice was much lover when she sang live than in her recordings. Anyway alcohol or not, we'll never get that sound again. I think I will be playing some Vision of Love today. And maybe some If it's Over. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:51)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,940) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love that guy and his authentic reaction in concert. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 13:38) this is a reply to message 108,936

Nasty, nasty comment (108,936) by Bobby A from United States Bill, don't you dare go back into hibernation. I am enjoying you posting again. The newbies weren't around during MC's glory days like most of us. We remember when we were like that handsome guy in the Hero video who was shaking his head in awe of MC's excellent vocal skills and technique at 3:10. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:56)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,939) by TJ from Norway I don't know if I got your message right, so I wouldn't comment on that one, but some people do have a different sound after some years in the business, and other doesn't. If it is because of alcohol or not, I can't say. I know a few opera singers and they both drink and sing (concerts almost every day) with no problem combining that with drinking. I guess we in the Northern Europe drink so much that any American would say we were raging alcoholics, but still keep singing. Whitney and Dionne Warwick both sounded different from their debut and later in their careers. If that's because of drugs, I don't know. I think Mariah for some years was pushing her voice over a long period of time (1991-1996) and that combined with the whispering voice (really hurt your voice). If you listen to her singing after her debut, her voice was much lover when she sang live than in her recordings. Anyway alcohol or not, we'll never get that sound again. I think I will be playing some Vision of Love today. And maybe some If it's Over. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:51) this is a reply to message 108,934

Nasty, nasty comment (108,934) by Lambi from USA Beyoncé has SirDavis American Whisky. She quite literally made an alcohol brand and sells them. She's so into drinking she made a whole business out of it. Mariah did the same with Black Irish. We can argue Beyoncé is a bigger alcoholic since SirDavis has 44% ABV, while Black Irish has 17%. However, Beyoncé has no vocal decline. If anything she got better. So no it's not alcoholism, your theory is ideologically inconsistent. Mariah simply has a different set of vocal cords, she has nodes and it only gets worse over time. And knowing Mariah's nonstop work ethic, she quickened her decline. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:32)

Happy anniversary (108,938) by TJ from Norway I think all have different views on those albums. I for example can't stand OSD. Well that's not the complete truth because I love/like like half a minute of the song (near the end). On the Daydream album these are the best ones: Fantasy, Long Ago, Open Arms, I am Free, Always Be My Baby and Forever. On the Music Box album: Dreamlover, Hero, Anytime You Need a Friend, Music Box, Without You, Everything Fades Away and Never Forget You. If I list them up, it would be something like this: 1. Dreamlover 2. Music Box 3. Fantasy 4. Anytime You Need a Friend 5. Hero 6. Open Arms 7. Without You 8. Never Forget You 9. Always be My Baby 10. Everything Fades Away 11. Long Ago 12. Forever 13. I am Free I think I need to make this into a play list on Spotify. She has many good songs. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 11:13) this is a reply to message 108,924

Happy anniversary (108,924) by Randy from USA You know that's an interesting premise. And I'm ready to get off this stroke, medication, vocal nonsense. I feel like Music Box and Daydream are siblings with the same highs and lows. Each has monster hits (Dreamlover, Hero, Without You vs. Fantasy, One Sweet Day, Always Be My Baby). Each has a weakness (I've Been Thinking About You vs Long Ago). Each has a club song (Now That I Know vs. Daydream Interlude). Dave Jam Hall, Babyface and Walter make appearances on both. I think the reason Music Box is slightly weaker is Now That I Know sucks as much as I've Been Thinking About You so it has two weak tracks and Daydream has Looking In. There's no introspective, non-romantic love track on Music Box. Looking In is the precursor to Close My Eyes, Outside, Petals, Languishing and of course, the best Mariah Carey song of all time Right To Dream. So yea, to me Daydream is the better of the two but Music Box is no slouch. I still play tf out of Anytime You Need A Friend from Tokyo Dome and the Jermaine Dupri remix of Never Forget You. Oh and I do a nifty sing along to the male part of Everything Fades Away. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 14:26)

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,937) by Lambi from USA Exactly I know Solange has done better. Her harmonies were off key, could’ve left it without them, even the drums she used were also on a different key. It is sloppy lamb. Kaytranada is the stand out remix in this release. But which comment are you writing on your book? Real recognize real? Lmfao. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 04:31) this is a reply to message 108,935

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,935) by Bobby A from United States In my Arnold voice from Different Strokes, whatcha talkin bout Lambi? Lol. Solange has a sound that millions of R&B fans love. Cranes In The Sky won her a Grammy award. She added the Solange vibe to Say Somethin. I am writing your post in my Mariah book. Lol. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:43)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,936) by Bobby A from United States Bill, don't you dare go back into hibernation. I am enjoying you posting again. The newbies weren't around during MC's glory days like most of us. We remember when we were like that handsome guy in the Hero video who was shaking his head in awe of MC's excellent vocal skills and technique at 3:10. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:56) this is a reply to message 108,925

Nasty, nasty comment (108,925) by Bill from the UK Correct, I am sad and unhappy that Mariah Carey is now nothing but a shadow of her former glorious and wonderfully captivating self. You and your kind can continue ignoring it. Perhaps I'll go back into hibernation again and pretend this isn't happening. Mariah I pray you get the help you need, God bless you always. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 14:48)

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,935) by Bobby A from United States In my Arnold voice from Different Strokes, whatcha talkin bout Lambi? Lol. Solange has a sound that millions of R&B fans love. Cranes In The Sky won her a Grammy award. She added the Solange vibe to Say Somethin. I am writing your post in my Mariah book. Lol. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:43) this is a reply to message 108,923

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,923) by Lambi from USA Nah real recognize real? it was indeed trash. Garage band vibes lmfao. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 13:43)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,934) by Lambi from USA Beyoncé has SirDavis American Whisky. She quite literally made an alcohol brand and sells them. She's so into drinking she made a whole business out of it. Mariah did the same with Black Irish. We can argue Beyoncé is a bigger alcoholic since SirDavis has 44% ABV, while Black Irish has 17%. However, Beyoncé has no vocal decline. If anything she got better. So no it's not alcoholism, your theory is ideologically inconsistent. Mariah simply has a different set of vocal cords, she has nodes and it only gets worse over time. And knowing Mariah's nonstop work ethic, she quickened her decline. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:32) this is a reply to message 108,927

Nasty, nasty comment (108,927) by Edward from USA If you're going to be a "Yass Queen", at least own it with pride. Facts don't care about your feelings, they remain facts, whether you like them or not. And clearly, for some of you, the truth is like kryptonite. It's well documented that Mariah Carey indulged in heavy drinking, especially around the time leading up to the release of Butterfly. Her voice was never quite the same afterward. She's been drunk in public many times, so it's not like she had a secret. While it may not have been his place to speak on it, even her brother mentioned that she was drinking while on her bipolar meds. Eminem, in his track The Warning, didn't hold back either, outright calling her an alcoholic. Say what you want, but the receipts have been there for a long time. And as much as I love Mariah, with the state of her voice today, she wouldn't even make it to audition in front of the judges on American Idol. Her voice is completely shot. But of course, in La La Land, she's still "slaying". Reality, however, paints a very different picture. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 17:22)

Music Box vs Daydream (108,933) by Edward from USA Lyrically, I prefer Daydream, but vocally, Music Box reigns supreme in my book. While her voice on Daydream was like pure butter, smooth, nuanced, and mature, on Music Box, it was fuller, more powerful and with a richness difficult to match. Mariah Carey, Music Box, and Merry Christmas are the only albums where Mariah came closest to matching Whitney’s level of resonance and vocal power. Daydream still featured incredible vocals, strong, expressive, and technically refined, but it leaned more into buttery tone and artistic subtlety rather than sheer vocal force. As an overall body of work, Daydream was more mature and creatively sophisticated than Music Box, but vocally, Music Box was a powerhouse. As much as I love myself some Music Box, Daydream is the better album in my humble opinion. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:10)

The simplest explanation is the best explanation (108,932) by Lambi from USA I actually believe the human singing voice is perfected through Mariah. She can quite literally do everything and more. God was like: "She's just gonna sound out of this world, in every register, and her songwriting will blow everyone out of the water, oh and I'll put her in charge of my holiday." Her voice is a literal gift from the heavens above but it also came with a bit of a curse. Mariah has nodules. Her ability to whistle eventually worsened her nodules. Her voice was the money maker, because she was poor and is deeply afraid of the rug being pulled from under her. She worked her voice to the extremes. Songwriting also happen to make bank in royalties so she went crazy hard on that too. She simply overworked her gifts. End end. These nose jobs and alcoholism theories sound so elementary. No other singer will have a similar decline diagnoses because Mariah is simply built different. A cut above the rest. (Sunday 1 June 2025; 00:33)

Happy anniversary (108,931) by Jamie from UK Nope, Music Box is my favourite. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 21:52) this is a reply to message 108,919

Happy anniversary (108,919) by TJ from Norway Am I the only one who likes Music Box better than Daydream? (Saturday 31 May 2025; 10:33)

Happy anniversary (108,930) by Tevin from USA TJ, Music Box is a great album also. It's even better with the anniversary deluxe edition, but, Daydream is still peak Mariah. I feel like it perfectly blends the commercial success and pop appeal of MB and the artistry of Butterfly. It's perfection. Rounding out my top three would be: 2. Butterfly 3.TEOM (Saturday 31 May 2025; 21:07) this is a reply to message 108,919

Happy anniversary (108,919) by TJ from Norway Am I the only one who likes Music Box better than Daydream? (Saturday 31 May 2025; 10:33)

Mimi anniversary (108,929) by Mara from United States I like the release, some remixes more than others but the one thing I have to say I was disappointed by was that she omitted: "With You I'm Born Again". That performance sent chills down my spine and I remember how electrifying her entrance was to It's Like That and the dress and everything. The audience was so into her. Then her entrance on stage into With You I'm Born Again was so beautiful, the high note haunting. I wish it were properly added to listen without pulling up YouTube. I've always loved the Billy Preston/Sarita song and her high note always blew me away too. I wonder why she didn't put it on as an added bonus. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 18:55)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,928) by Bobby A from United States We all believe MC has one more great album in her. We just got to get through all of the bumps and curves in the road to get there. I feel we are going find out this year why it is taking her so long to release a new album. At the moment some of her current decisions and behaviors are concerning. It is almost reminisce of her personal and professional struggles between 1999-2001 just without the media coverage. The media is just cutting her some slack right now because there are too many other celebrities more newsworthy right now. I guess we should be thankful that they are leaving MC alone. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 17:53) this is a reply to message 108,916

Nasty, nasty comment (108,916) by David from USA "2. Alcohol is known as one of the absolute worst things for a singing voice. Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair (to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping) suggests she has indulged too much in this vice." Another fan disparaging and mocking Mariah with one of the most offensive comments I've seen yet (the part in parentheses). I feel sorry for you, buddy - you and all the lambs on here who wile away your hours hurting the woman who profess to love must have very sad, very unhappy to have to act out in this way. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 05:16)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,927) by Edward from USA If you're going to be a "Yass Queen", at least own it with pride. Facts don't care about your feelings, they remain facts, whether you like them or not. And clearly, for some of you, the truth is like kryptonite. It's well documented that Mariah Carey indulged in heavy drinking, especially around the time leading up to the release of Butterfly. Her voice was never quite the same afterward. She's been drunk in public many times, so it's not like she had a secret. While it may not have been his place to speak on it, even her brother mentioned that she was drinking while on her bipolar meds. Eminem, in his track The Warning, didn't hold back either, outright calling her an alcoholic. Say what you want, but the receipts have been there for a long time. And as much as I love Mariah, with the state of her voice today, she wouldn't even make it to audition in front of the judges on American Idol. Her voice is completely shot. But of course, in La La Land, she's still "slaying". Reality, however, paints a very different picture. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 17:22) this is a reply to message 108,916

Nasty, nasty comment (108,916) by David from USA "2. Alcohol is known as one of the absolute worst things for a singing voice. Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair (to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping) suggests she has indulged too much in this vice." Another fan disparaging and mocking Mariah with one of the most offensive comments I've seen yet (the part in parentheses). I feel sorry for you, buddy - you and all the lambs on here who wile away your hours hurting the woman who profess to love must have very sad, very unhappy to have to act out in this way. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 05:16)

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,926) by Zachariah from Croatia Agreed regarding the quality. It is... a mess. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 15:37) this is a reply to message 108,912

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,912) by jaker20 from US I'm sorry but that sounds awful. It sounds basement quality done by 12 year olds experimenting on a remix. If Mariah approved this, then she's completely lost it. (Friday 30 May 2025; 21:39)

Nasty, nasty comment (108,925) by Bill from the UK Correct, I am sad and unhappy that Mariah Carey is now nothing but a shadow of her former glorious and wonderfully captivating self. You and your kind can continue ignoring it. Perhaps I'll go back into hibernation again and pretend this isn't happening. Mariah I pray you get the help you need, God bless you always. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 14:48) this is a reply to message 108,916

Nasty, nasty comment (108,916) by David from USA "2. Alcohol is known as one of the absolute worst things for a singing voice. Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair (to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping) suggests she has indulged too much in this vice." Another fan disparaging and mocking Mariah with one of the most offensive comments I've seen yet (the part in parentheses). I feel sorry for you, buddy - you and all the lambs on here who wile away your hours hurting the woman who profess to love must have very sad, very unhappy to have to act out in this way. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 05:16)

Happy anniversary (108,924) by Randy from USA You know that's an interesting premise. And I'm ready to get off this stroke, medication, vocal nonsense. I feel like Music Box and Daydream are siblings with the same highs and lows. Each has monster hits (Dreamlover, Hero, Without You vs. Fantasy, One Sweet Day, Always Be My Baby). Each has a weakness (I've Been Thinking About You vs Long Ago). Each has a club song (Now That I Know vs. Daydream Interlude). Dave Jam Hall, Babyface and Walter make appearances on both. I think the reason Music Box is slightly weaker is Now That I Know sucks as much as I've Been Thinking About You so it has two weak tracks and Daydream has Looking In. There's no introspective, non-romantic love track on Music Box. Looking In is the precursor to Close My Eyes, Outside, Petals, Languishing and of course, the best Mariah Carey song of all time Right To Dream. So yea, to me Daydream is the better of the two but Music Box is no slouch. I still play tf out of Anytime You Need A Friend from Tokyo Dome and the Jermaine Dupri remix of Never Forget You. Oh and I do a nifty sing along to the male part of Everything Fades Away. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 14:26) this is a reply to message 108,919

Happy anniversary (108,919) by TJ from Norway Am I the only one who likes Music Box better than Daydream? (Saturday 31 May 2025; 10:33)

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,923) by Lambi from USA Nah real recognize real? it was indeed trash. Garage band vibes lmfao. (Saturday 31 May 2025; 13:43) this is a reply to message 108,912

Say Somethin Solange remix (108,912) by jaker20 from US I'm sorry but that sounds awful. It sounds basement quality done by 12 year olds experimenting on a remix. If Mariah approved this, then she's completely lost it. (Friday 30 May 2025; 21:39)

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