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My tracklist order for MC30 (103,426) by The Real Deal from USA This is my tracklist order for MC30. To me, it offers a cohesive listening experience. Dreamlover Hero Anytime You Need A Friend Music Box Now That I Know My Prayer Do You Think Of Me Working Hard All I Live For Never Forget You Without You Just To Hold You Once Again I've Been Thinking About You Everything Fades Away All I've Ever Wanted (Monday 11 September 2023; 00:04)

Music Box - 30th anniversary (103,425) by Bobby A from United States It really did feel good last week with announcement. It was a kid getting a new toy on Christmas day. MC spoiled us with a new album every two years in the 90s. We are not accustomed to long periods of time between albums. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 23:21) this is a reply to message 103,418

Music Box - 30th anniversary (103,418) by Libra Lamb from USA I also have a new found appreciation for Music Box, it was never my most played album, but with these new gems it makes me want to listen to it over and over again. I'm loving it and am so happy with these unreleased songs finally seeing the light of day, old and new fans can appreciate the hard work that went into these recordings. I also noticed that only with the release of new MC music this board is happy and peaceful, without new music things can get a bit aggressive and confrontational. So for our sake, I'm hoping she keeps releasing more new music or previously unreleased gems. If nothing else, for peacekeeping. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 14:50)

Tommy's thoughts about MC30 (103,424) by Stacey from USA Listen to the lyrics for All I Live For. Hello Tommy, don't be jealous. With Music Box back in the spotlight, it got me to thinking about his marriage to MC. Tommy has been married to Thalia for over 20 years. Is he that controlling with her as he was with Mariah? People don't change. Yet we don't hear any stories of how controlling he is with Thalia. Is there more to the story, Mariah's part in all of this? Just curious. Thoughts anyone? (Sunday 10 September 2023; 21:51) this is a reply to message 103,408

Tommy's thoughts about MC30 (103,408) by Bobby A from United States I was thinking today after looking at the album cover Mariah Carey. What are Tommy's thoughts in 2023 about MC's remarkable career? Does he have any regrets about how he kept such tight reins on MC? Does he have any regrets about marrrying MC? Was he trying too hard to mirror the record label executive relationship that Clive Davis and Whitney Houston had? Whatever he was trying to mirror worked extremely well until the music relationship became a physical relationship. I think the Emotions and Music Box albums were all about that physical relationship. The evidence is substantially real in Emotions, So Blessed, Music Box, Now That I Know, and I've Been Thinking About You. They were all about Tommy. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 05:56)

MC30 (103,423) by TheWind from England Well, you learn something new every day. Just sleet Mr Prayer from my previous post and insert Anytime You Need A Friend. The sentiment is still the same. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 20:18) this is a reply to message 103,414

MC30 (103,414) by Jamie from UK Mariah didn't write My Prayer, it's a cover song. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 10:54)

MC30 (103,422) by TheWind from England It's stunning and that really is an appropriate description of it. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 20:17) this is a reply to message 103,412

MC30 (103,412) by MusicfanJ from Germany I thought the same yesterday. How the very young Mariah sung "My prayer" is unbelievable. So much soul and depth in her voice. I love when she sings classic or retro songs. That version was on repeat yesterday evening. I can't get enough of her magical voice. She really takes me to another sphere. Some fan once wrote, it's like dreaming while awake. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 10:19)

All I Live For Extended Mix (103,421) by Brandon from USA One word, masterpiece. This sing embodies everything I want in a song from MC, lyrics, melody, and of course that soaring voice. 10/10 (Sunday 10 September 2023; 18:23)

Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,420) by Andrew from the UK I am sure that other British people here would agree that getting to No.1 in the UK in the 90's wasn't... how do I say this? It wasn't exactly an overly massive achievement. Now I know that Mariah was UK Top 5 with her 90s songs but to get to No.1 in the UK meant you simply had to be in a group of artists heavily pushed by the Record Labels in the UK - all of whom simply avoided releasing a song that would have competition in that week. When there were 2 songs going head to head that were otherwise created to get to, and destined for, No.1, these events made headlines, they made the national news. To achieve No.1 you either had to be a seriously heavy-weight British Artist or have a one-hit-wonder generated for you - or you were a foreign artist who simply had a really good song. Mariah got to Number 2 with All I Want For Christmas Is You (something I cried about at the time). It was beaten by a very depressing song called Stay Another Day by a 90's boyband that to say they and thesong were heavily-marketed would be somewhat of an understatement. That she got to Number 2 on the strength of the song alone is remarkable. It seems to me that to achieve No.1 in the United States (with still mindboggingly complicated ways of determining it) was not something easy. Therefore, discounting the incredible feat of getting there how many times she did, Mariah achieving Number 2's and Number 3's with songs released from an album long sinced dropped and heavy in sales figures is quite remarkable. In fact, it's astonishing. I Will Always Love You was on the back of a Box Office Movie Hit and powerful (I personally hate it) and was the first release from the Soundtrack. The Soundtrack is revisited time and time again because it is Whitney's best work. Funny, that Daydream is almost streamed as much as it. Mariah not only answered Whitney with Music Box, she came at her title with Daydream. And won. Knowing some Atlanta-born poster here's propensity for defending Whitney, I shall say only this: whoever can listen to I Will Always Love You from start to finish without turning it off, turning it down, or tearing their ears off is superhuman. What the bloody hell are you supposed this song? The acappella begining is unnerving, the ridiculous bellowing at the end is unsingable, the whole thing is a shit-show. That I saw Whitney live in person sing this is one of the greatest memories of my life. But not as great as hearing her sing I Love The Lord. Now *that* is singing. Just like My Prayer is *singing*. I shall stop typing now. Apologies, I'm on a bit of a Mariah buzz. I feel like a kid again lol. Peace. AJ. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 17:44) this is a reply to message 103,398

Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,398) by BFF from United States Yes, I agree. "Without You" deserved to be on the final track listing over "My Prayer." The way she sings the line "You always smile but in your eyes your sorrow shows" gets me every time. My only complaint about "Without You" is that it was massive internationally but only went to #3 in the United States. It really should have been a moment akin to Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You". The way she sings it eclipses the Harry Nilsson version and the Badfinger original. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:53)

MC30 (103,419) by Andrew from the UK Although she didn't write My Prayer I understand your point about constructing a track in a very simple, traditional - but powerful - way. Nobody seems to write songs and cover songs the way Mariah does. Or did. I agree with your point that she should have put the brakes on Don't Forget We Belong To Shake It Off about 2012-ish. And to an extent she did - there are absolute moments of genius on The Elusive Chanteuse such as You Don't Know What To Do, Cry, etc, Beautiful, etc. But there's something about the production of that whole album that is so complicated it's rather exhausting to listen to, or, at the very least, the enjoyment of it hampered by massive over-production and choppy vocal patchworking. Caution is okay - but it lives up to its name: it is was to cautious in melody, harmony, and full whack attack, to name a few. Were Mariah to give another studio album a go, I think she should go back to what made her an international superstar. Just one more time. One More Try. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 16:57) this is a reply to message 103,411

MC30 (103,411) by TheWind from England The previously unrealised songs are fantastic. It always amazes me that Mariah can write songs like My Prayer in her early 20s. I really think Mariah should keep future new releases as simple as possible. Don't overthink the theme, lyrics, melody, production. Lately, too much time has been spent constructing a song that's current or relevant. Whereas, songs like My Prayer does the opposite, and in a good way. Beautiful song. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 09:45)

Music Box - 30th anniversary (103,418) by Libra Lamb from USA I also have a new found appreciation for Music Box, it was never my most played album, but with these new gems it makes me want to listen to it over and over again. I'm loving it and am so happy with these unreleased songs finally seeing the light of day, old and new fans can appreciate the hard work that went into these recordings. I also noticed that only with the release of new MC music this board is happy and peaceful, without new music things can get a bit aggressive and confrontational. So for our sake, I'm hoping she keeps releasing more new music or previously unreleased gems. If nothing else, for peacekeeping. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 14:50) this is a reply to message 103,399

Music Box - 30th anniversary (103,399) by Billy from Greece I really got choked up listening to the extended version of "Anytime you need a friend". What can I say about "My Prayer"? A true masterclass. The phrasing, the interpretation, the final belt, wow, just wow. I also can't believe "Working Hard" was left out. Actually, with the three main unreleased songs from those sessions, the two b-sides and details like the full version of AYNAF (or the Walter-less version of "Dreamlover") you really get to see Mariah's true vision for that album and what the intervention of Sony (Tommy) felt like. You really get the artistic sacrifices yet still admire Mariah's to straddle both worlds, meaning her artistry as well as the direction for mass appeal. I have a whole new appreciation for Music Box given that for a long time it's been my least played Mariah album, although it is the first album I fell in love with. Lovely commemoration. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:55)

MB30 (103,417) by Bobby A from United States Randy, I was hoping that you would like My Prayer. After you mentioned getting your DJ friend to remix Right To Dream, I found a remix version on SoundCloud that is horrible. It's Def Club meets heavy metal. There were so many screeching sounds that Dee Snider would have disapproved. Lol. Google Right To Dream remix and it will show up in the listing. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 14:38) this is a reply to message 103,403

MB30 (103,403) by Randy from USA Hey fam. I've been busy since I have a new teaching assignment this year. So I finally listened to the new music. I have to say. I am excited you all are excited. But I don't like My Prayer or Workin Hard. Mariah sounds incredible but what would you expect for '93? I just don't like the songs and understand why they were left on the cutting room floor. Hero 2009 had my attention on the first verse and chorus. She sounds absolutely breathtaking. Pun intended. I didn't like the 2nd verse at all. Ima stick with the Never Too Far/Hero Medley as my definitive version. I am not being a negative Nancy, I was summoned by Robert. And to a lesser extent Edward. It's good to see a flurry of activity on the board. Pun intended. P.S. I wonder what a Right to Dream remix would sound like? I have a DJ friend. Hmmmm. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 22:49)

Tommy's thoughts about MC30 (103,416) by Chicago Lamb from USA We never talk about the songs that are about Tommy. There are many. But, I'm in full support of "My Prayer" and "Working Hard" and any other songs left off the album. Music Box is perfect the way it was delivered. Tommy knew what he was doing. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 14:23) this is a reply to message 103,408

Tommy's thoughts about MC30 (103,408) by Bobby A from United States I was thinking today after looking at the album cover Mariah Carey. What are Tommy's thoughts in 2023 about MC's remarkable career? Does he have any regrets about how he kept such tight reins on MC? Does he have any regrets about marrrying MC? Was he trying too hard to mirror the record label executive relationship that Clive Davis and Whitney Houston had? Whatever he was trying to mirror worked extremely well until the music relationship became a physical relationship. I think the Emotions and Music Box albums were all about that physical relationship. The evidence is substantially real in Emotions, So Blessed, Music Box, Now That I Know, and I've Been Thinking About You. They were all about Tommy. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 05:56)

Working Hard (Terry Hunter Remix) (103,415) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yeah it's on fire. I love the beginning and the chill out vibe. Somehow I hear Daydream Mariah on that remix. Fantastic. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 11:45) this is a reply to message 103,394

Working Hard (Terry Hunter Remix) (103,394) by Edward from USA Working Hard Remix is on fire. I prefer it over the original. I had a dream that Mariah had released the Papua New Guinea version of MB30 CD1 with "Randy's Theme" at the end. One can have a "Right to Dream". (Saturday 9 September 2023; 17:29)

MC30 (103,414) by Jamie from UK Mariah didn't write My Prayer, it's a cover song. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 10:54) this is a reply to message 103,411

MC30 (103,411) by TheWind from England The previously unrealised songs are fantastic. It always amazes me that Mariah can write songs like My Prayer in her early 20s. I really think Mariah should keep future new releases as simple as possible. Don't overthink the theme, lyrics, melody, production. Lately, too much time has been spent constructing a song that's current or relevant. Whereas, songs like My Prayer does the opposite, and in a good way. Beautiful song. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 09:45)

Mariah on Twitter (X) (103,413) by MusicfanJ from Germany Mariah: "I'll never forget creating this record, fully immersing myself in the music that would change my life and connect me with you, the lambily, in a way that bonded us forever." With Music Box she really showed the world there's another superstar, that will stay and make history. When I read the sentence "bonded us forever", I really feel this. I became a fan because of Daydream, but I knew Mariah because of MTV playing "Hero" and "Without You" every day which I loved. I was very young back then, but I knew that she was so special. Her voice, her beauty. Indescribable. And here we are with MB30. This is a moment as Mariah would say. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 10:36)

MC30 (103,412) by MusicfanJ from Germany I thought the same yesterday. How the very young Mariah sung "My prayer" is unbelievable. So much soul and depth in her voice. I love when she sings classic or retro songs. That version was on repeat yesterday evening. I can't get enough of her magical voice. She really takes me to another sphere. Some fan once wrote, it's like dreaming while awake. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 10:19) this is a reply to message 103,411

MC30 (103,411) by TheWind from England The previously unrealised songs are fantastic. It always amazes me that Mariah can write songs like My Prayer in her early 20s. I really think Mariah should keep future new releases as simple as possible. Don't overthink the theme, lyrics, melody, production. Lately, too much time has been spent constructing a song that's current or relevant. Whereas, songs like My Prayer does the opposite, and in a good way. Beautiful song. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 09:45)

MC30 (103,411) by TheWind from England The previously unrealised songs are fantastic. It always amazes me that Mariah can write songs like My Prayer in her early 20s. I really think Mariah should keep future new releases as simple as possible. Don't overthink the theme, lyrics, melody, production. Lately, too much time has been spent constructing a song that's current or relevant. Whereas, songs like My Prayer does the opposite, and in a good way. Beautiful song. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 09:45)

Mariah Carey EP in 1996 (103,410) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Now that we all discovered that Mariah has so many unreleased songs from the vault, I wonder why Sony didn't take the chance to release Mariah's EP featuring all the unreleased songs to make more money off Mariah's catalogue. I'm guessing the best year would be end of 1996 (the only year where Mariah didn't release any album). Considering 1996 was among the peak year of Mariah's career, the EP definitely would sell at least 5-6 million copies in US. The tracklist would be: 1. Here We Go Around Again 2. Can You Hear Me 3. Do You Think Of Me 4. All I Live For 5. Workin' Hard 6. My Prayer 7. Slipping Away 8. One Night (Sunday 10 September 2023; 08:40)

Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,409) by Bobby A from United States Maybe All I Live For Extended Version was intended for The Rarities, but MC wanted to save it to open up MB30. It just amazes me how she works her magic regarding her phrasing, vocals, lyrics, and sequencing. She is always on point with all four and always amazes us with them. No wonder she and Walter A. worked so well together. I wish they would reconcile at least to produce an album of reimagined or extended mixes of their best work together. My fingers are crossed and praying for it to happen soon. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 06:21) this is a reply to message 103,393

Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,393) by Edward from USA The same sentiment here. "All I Live For Extended" is just brilliant. I don't know why she cut it off and put that short lived whistle at the end on "The Rarities". "My Prayer" was executed beautifully, vocally and emotionally, but I can understand why "Without You" was chosen, it sounds more current even today. As for "Working Hard", I'm still getting used to it, but I like it. Obviously I had to replace "All I Live For" with the extended version on "The Rarities", what a difference. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 17:15)

Tommy's thoughts about MC30 (103,408) by Bobby A from United States I was thinking today after looking at the album cover Mariah Carey. What are Tommy's thoughts in 2023 about MC's remarkable career? Does he have any regrets about how he kept such tight reins on MC? Does he have any regrets about marrrying MC? Was he trying too hard to mirror the record label executive relationship that Clive Davis and Whitney Houston had? Whatever he was trying to mirror worked extremely well until the music relationship became a physical relationship. I think the Emotions and Music Box albums were all about that physical relationship. The evidence is substantially real in Emotions, So Blessed, Music Box, Now That I Know, and I've Been Thinking About You. They were all about Tommy. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 05:56)

Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,407) by Shezz from Pk I love all these new songs. My favourite keeps changing every day. My Prayer mesmerizes me each time I hear it - yes it sounds a little dated. Or rather nostalgic and I love that it transports me to another time. Workin’ Hard grew on me in a few listens and I love that it got a remix treatment as well in the same release. All I Live For extended version is great but gets slightly less listens from me than the others because its novelty is slightly less in comparison I suppose. And just like the rest, I was ready to hate Hero 2009 but was pleasantly surprised by it. Most of all what I loved the most about MB30 was how it got everyone here in such a positive, happy, “ I love Mariah” mood again. Mimi L needs to un retire and chime in now. I hope the love that Mariah is getting for this influences her future creative endeavors. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 05:09) this is a reply to message 103,398

Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,398) by BFF from United States Yes, I agree. "Without You" deserved to be on the final track listing over "My Prayer." The way she sings the line "You always smile but in your eyes your sorrow shows" gets me every time. My only complaint about "Without You" is that it was massive internationally but only went to #3 in the United States. It really should have been a moment akin to Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You". The way she sings it eclipses the Harry Nilsson version and the Badfinger original. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:53)

Music Box is not Music Box without Without You (103,406) by Andrew from the UK How can there ever be any suggestion that Without You ought to have been left off Music Box? According to Spotify: Hero has 242 million plays and Without You is not that far behind with 221 million plays. All the other tracks are in the tens of millions or single digit millions. When Mariah says that this album changed her life she's blatantly referring to how it made her an *international* superstar to contend with the likes of Whitney and Madonna - and Without You is the song mainly responsible for that. Whilst not very popular in the US it went to No.1 in the UK and many other important record sales territories which were thirsty for big voice ballads (which explains Celine breaking these markets with Think Twice). Add in the universal appeal of Hero and the Club Remix of Dreamlover and Mariah entered new markets and blew the competition away. My Prayer is great but... c'mon, you cannot be serious. Music Box would not be one of the best-selling albums of all time without Without You. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 04:56)

Music Box 30 CD (103,405) by Stacey from USA I ordered the 3 CD set and my order form said 5-7 days after order date. I still haven't received a shipping confirmation. With the amount of orders they've gotten, it might be February before we get it, lol. (Sunday 10 September 2023; 00:37) this is a reply to message 103,397

Music Box 30 CD (103,397) by Jamie from UK Has anyone preordered this yet? It's saying shipping is February. If you have are you charged now or February? (Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:13)

My Prayer, Workin Hard (Remix), Do You Think Of Me (103,404) by jaker20 from US These are the new ones I haven't heard of that I like the most. I hope this is a taste of more that is hidden in the vault. Funny I was just listening to C&C's first album and I definitely hear that chemistry there in Workin Hard (Remix), the original not so much though. I prefer the remix. My Prayer and Do You Think Of Me sounds like classics to me. Dreamlover definitely needs a new remix and it will be just as big as Fantasy. Because the Def Def club version does not hit as hard. The public needs to be re-introduced to Dreamlover gem in a big way, ala Free Guy remix, or maybe bring in the Pnau to re-interpret the song and I definitely see it being a big hit again. All the songs in Proctor are some of her best live recordings, and I wish they were released at the time, and they would have been as big as the MTV ones. All in all, I really love the 30th anniversary edition. Which makes me excited about what else she's been hiding lol. For me, the newer version of Hero is also love. It hits a bit harder for me. It's a proof that it's not all about the vocals, I think she felt it more in the revival version. And then the a cappella of Music Box, chills. Mariah I love you. There will never be a Mariah in the history of music. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 23:34)

MB30 (103,403) by Randy from USA Hey fam. I've been busy since I have a new teaching assignment this year. So I finally listened to the new music. I have to say. I am excited you all are excited. But I don't like My Prayer or Workin Hard. Mariah sounds incredible but what would you expect for '93? I just don't like the songs and understand why they were left on the cutting room floor. Hero 2009 had my attention on the first verse and chorus. She sounds absolutely breathtaking. Pun intended. I didn't like the 2nd verse at all. Ima stick with the Never Too Far/Hero Medley as my definitive version. I am not being a negative Nancy, I was summoned by Robert. And to a lesser extent Edward. It's good to see a flurry of activity on the board. Pun intended. P.S. I wonder what a Right to Dream remix would sound like? I have a DJ friend. Hmmmm. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 22:49)

Music Box 30 CD (103,402) by Bobby A from United States She is gonna make us wait until February 24th her store too. I can understand the 4LP but really the 3CD set. (Saturday 9 September 2023; 22:40) this is a reply to message 103,397

Music Box 30 CD (103,397) by Jamie from UK Has anyone preordered this yet? It's saying shipping is February. If you have are you charged now or February? (Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:13)

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