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General public or bad decisions (105,636) by Bobby A from United States The respect your response Matty completely. I just feel MC's relationship with Walter A. ended in a very bad way. It has always been this what if in the back of mind. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 11:30) this is a reply to message 105,626

General public or bad decisions (105,626) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Ohhhh Robert I don't think I've ever disagreed with you on this board, but if MC kept working with Walter, TEOM would never have happened. After Daydream Mariah would have been cemented in the Celine Dion, Barbra Streisand genre. Just like Michael Bubble will forever be in the Frank Sinatra genre. Mariah was lyrically doing art, and vocally doing art during her time with W.A, but I think even though it was amazing, it was commissioned art, not the art for the artist who wanted to express themselves. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:28)

SNL (105,635) by Bobby A from United States I am worried as well. SNL is not a show where viewers accept lipped performances (remember the Ashley Simpson failed backing tracking debacle). The social media will not be too nice the day after. The Distance performed on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon in 2019 was her last completely live performance. Can MC do it? Maybe with vocal rest and some hot tea and honey. Maybe the Cardi B. collaboration is a summer bop and her team is waiting for June or July to unleash to the world. I hope Cardi B pokes fun at Nikki Minaj by calling Mariah's name in her voice the way Nikki Minaj did in Up Out My Face. I am predicting The-Dream co-wrote the collaboration. I haven't predicted in awhile. Lol. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 11:25) this is a reply to message 105,633

SNL (105,633) by Shezz from Pk I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice. Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37)

General public or bad decisions (105,634) by Sasha from Nomansland Her image I would say didn't help. But mainly I think the failure of her marriage with Cannon destroyed her. She lost her light, her magic, her energy and motivation since then. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:43) this is a reply to message 105,612

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

SNL (105,633) by Shezz from Pk I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice. Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37) this is a reply to message 105,629

SNL (105,629) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ariana is performing at SNL on March 9th. There's rumors Mariah may join her. I don't think I believe that but it'd be a treat. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 03:26)

General public or bad decisions (105,632) by Zachariah from Croatia Glitter is everything. I love it to death and play it everyday. That summer was a blast for me. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 08:23) this is a reply to message 105,622

General public or bad decisions (105,622) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Glitter is a masterpiece - I think lambs remember this moment as a failure, but this was the only year Mariah appeared in Forbes list of most powerful women, she did the national anthem at the Super Bowl in 2002 next to the 9/11 statue, she looked gorgeous, and Loverboy was constantly on the radio, on TV music stations, also #2 on Billboard (don't give me the it was discounted argument, because most singles were always discounted and sat in the discount bins at HMV and Music World). I think corporate Virgin panicked more than the public. I love Charmbraclet personally, and in my home town of Guelph Ontario (45 mins south/west of Toronto) "Boy" was on the radio constantly, but for some reason the album wasn't what they wanted as a "comeback" album after 18 months of lows ( ) Why do those few months out of 30 years taint her? I'll never know. Think of all the celebrated singers with issues now, 18 months out of the game or spotlight is nothing, Demi Lovato, Britney, even the beauty that is Selina Gomez, Gaga, Ariana. Maybe it was simply the expectation that year after year for a decade Mariah was ever present and showed up. I have no doubt that's exhausting. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:06)

General public or bad decisions (105,631) by enwar00 from usa I think that fall in 2013 may have set off a series of unfortunate events, and affected more than we'll ever know. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 05:14) this is a reply to message 105,612

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

General public or bad decisions (105,630) by enwar00 from usa Lol thank you Matty for calling out that discount argument for Loverboy. Just another way to drag her. There were so many singles I bought because they were on sale, therefore I could afford them. No different than songs being discounted now for $0.69 on iTunes. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 05:06) this is a reply to message 105,622

General public or bad decisions (105,622) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Glitter is a masterpiece - I think lambs remember this moment as a failure, but this was the only year Mariah appeared in Forbes list of most powerful women, she did the national anthem at the Super Bowl in 2002 next to the 9/11 statue, she looked gorgeous, and Loverboy was constantly on the radio, on TV music stations, also #2 on Billboard (don't give me the it was discounted argument, because most singles were always discounted and sat in the discount bins at HMV and Music World). I think corporate Virgin panicked more than the public. I love Charmbraclet personally, and in my home town of Guelph Ontario (45 mins south/west of Toronto) "Boy" was on the radio constantly, but for some reason the album wasn't what they wanted as a "comeback" album after 18 months of lows ( ) Why do those few months out of 30 years taint her? I'll never know. Think of all the celebrated singers with issues now, 18 months out of the game or spotlight is nothing, Demi Lovato, Britney, even the beauty that is Selina Gomez, Gaga, Ariana. Maybe it was simply the expectation that year after year for a decade Mariah was ever present and showed up. I have no doubt that's exhausting. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:06)

SNL (105,629) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ariana is performing at SNL on March 9th. There's rumors Mariah may join her. I don't think I believe that but it'd be a treat. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 03:26)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,628) by Bobby A from United States My bad. I thought the new charts are released on Tuesday. Is it Wednesday now? This whole thing of calculating chart numbers and the day new charts are released is so confusing to me. Lol. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 02:16) this is a reply to message 105,621

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,621) by jaker20 from US Tracking isn't done yet. That's for prior week. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:57)

Amazon Music sales chart (105,627) by Tameka walker from United states I got my copy. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:32) this is a reply to message 105,616

Amazon Music sales chart (105,616) by T from USA Early today the remix was at tenth spot in the new release section and 56th in total song sales. Then it went up to #7 in new releases and #36 in total song sales. In the last hour it's dropped back to #9 in new releases and #60 in total song sales. We can definitely bring these numbers up at Amazon Music. Let's go get em. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 19:27)

General public or bad decisions (105,626) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Ohhhh Robert I don't think I've ever disagreed with you on this board, but if MC kept working with Walter, TEOM would never have happened. After Daydream Mariah would have been cemented in the Celine Dion, Barbra Streisand genre. Just like Michael Bubble will forever be in the Frank Sinatra genre. Mariah was lyrically doing art, and vocally doing art during her time with W.A, but I think even though it was amazing, it was commissioned art, not the art for the artist who wanted to express themselves. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:28) this is a reply to message 105,624

General public or bad decisions (105,624) by Bobby A from United States MC lost her magic when she stopped collaborating with Walter A. She might have 26 #1 songs now if the two never stopped collaborating. That was a bad decision she has paid dearly for. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:10)

General public or bad decisions (105,625) by jaker20 from US No amount of no.1s is worth her sanity. That's not a bad decision, if anything she saved herself, and gave us Butterfly. Look what's happened to some popstars who never recovered and never regained their sanity. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:21) this is a reply to message 105,624

General public or bad decisions (105,624) by Bobby A from United States MC lost her magic when she stopped collaborating with Walter A. She might have 26 #1 songs now if the two never stopped collaborating. That was a bad decision she has paid dearly for. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:10)

General public or bad decisions (105,624) by Bobby A from United States MC lost her magic when she stopped collaborating with Walter A. She might have 26 #1 songs now if the two never stopped collaborating. That was a bad decision she has paid dearly for. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:10) this is a reply to message 105,612

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,623) by T from USA That's this past week. We're looking forward to next weeks charts with currently has the song at #11 (one point behind #10). That's why buying the Mariah single if you live in the USA or streaming for the next few days is vital. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:06) this is a reply to message 105,620

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,620) by Bobby A from United States It didn't make the top 10 this week. The original is down to #21. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:35)

General public or bad decisions (105,622) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Glitter is a masterpiece - I think lambs remember this moment as a failure, but this was the only year Mariah appeared in Forbes list of most powerful women, she did the national anthem at the Super Bowl in 2002 next to the 9/11 statue, she looked gorgeous, and Loverboy was constantly on the radio, on TV music stations, also #2 on Billboard (don't give me the it was discounted argument, because most singles were always discounted and sat in the discount bins at HMV and Music World). I think corporate Virgin panicked more than the public. I love Charmbraclet personally, and in my home town of Guelph Ontario (45 mins south/west of Toronto) "Boy" was on the radio constantly, but for some reason the album wasn't what they wanted as a "comeback" album after 18 months of lows ( ) Why do those few months out of 30 years taint her? I'll never know. Think of all the celebrated singers with issues now, 18 months out of the game or spotlight is nothing, Demi Lovato, Britney, even the beauty that is Selina Gomez, Gaga, Ariana. Maybe it was simply the expectation that year after year for a decade Mariah was ever present and showed up. I have no doubt that's exhausting. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:06) this is a reply to message 105,619

General public or bad decisions (105,619) by Anonymous from USA It's a very interesting theory Jamie. I would love to know what exactly happened but I just can't imagine my life without the Glitter soundtrack. Good or bad for her image, I am glad we got the music when we did. I remember the Hero/Never Too Far performance and I know that was meant to be because it brought our country some much needed comfort at the time. I'm one of those people that believe that everything happens for a reason. Glitter is, at least for me, a masterpiece and one of my favorite projects and I'll forever cherish it. I'm still patiently waiting for the movie to be re-released in digital format. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:06)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,621) by jaker20 from US Tracking isn't done yet. That's for prior week. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:57) this is a reply to message 105,620

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,620) by Bobby A from United States It didn't make the top 10 this week. The original is down to #21. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:35)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,620) by Bobby A from United States It didn't make the top 10 this week. The original is down to #21. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:35) this is a reply to message 105,613

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,613) by jaker20 from US We don't know. It's going to be very very close. The remix should have more points than the original for her to get credit. Both versions together, it is at no.11 and went +49%. Assuming the original dropped like it did last week, then the remix portion of that should be more than 50% already, giving Mariah credit at this point already. There is no way the original went up after the remix is released, unless there is some shady stuff going on behind the scenes. The 3 new remixes released by Ariana's team complicates it slightly, but it's not doing any numbers currently. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:43)

General public or bad decisions (105,619) by Anonymous from USA It's a very interesting theory Jamie. I would love to know what exactly happened but I just can't imagine my life without the Glitter soundtrack. Good or bad for her image, I am glad we got the music when we did. I remember the Hero/Never Too Far performance and I know that was meant to be because it brought our country some much needed comfort at the time. I'm one of those people that believe that everything happens for a reason. Glitter is, at least for me, a masterpiece and one of my favorite projects and I'll forever cherish it. I'm still patiently waiting for the movie to be re-released in digital format. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:06) this is a reply to message 105,612

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

General public or bad decisions (105,618) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post Jamie. I love considerations. I think it's a bit of all things you mentioned, her "music change" during Butterfly, the Glitter debacle with the public breakdown and later some wrong decisions by the management and Mariah (if she was involved in album single choices, I don't know). As you said Mariah could do no wrong in the 90ies. She was like a music princess, loved by almost everyone and even people who didn't like her style of singing only had respect for her. I think what really caused damage was the image after 2001. Friends often told me back than "what's going on with Mariah, her dressing, behavior etc." They also didn't understand her humour and diva antics. A lot of people still don't get it. I always tell them, she's just playing a role like an actress. It's more for fun and a little self-protection. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 20:18) this is a reply to message 105,612

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

General public or bad decisions (105,617) by Tevin from USA Personally I think life just happens. At least in respect to the post TMB era. Had Mariah not ran off with Nick, had LA Reid not stupidly picked Bye Bye over Migrate, and had Mariah not disappeared because of tragic events (miscarriage) which is completely understandable, she could have kept up the promotion of E=MC2, which was still a great album in the eyes of the public. I mean Obsessed did well and so did Beautiful, so at the GP was still crazy about Mariah. I think it just came down to a few bad decisions by the Corporate Morgue, and Mariah (right or wrong) not putting 100% into stuff because she wanted to start her family life, which is great. I'm sure she would give up a ton of her success just to have the blessing of having two wonderful kids. Anyway I always wondered, had Mariah not met Nick and fully stayed in "work mode", had the E=MC2 tour happened, I would think that Mariah would have definitely ruled the charts at least until the mid 2010s, rather than fading away in 08, with a small popular blip in 09 and 13 respectively. Man oh man, I wish the E=MC2 concert would have happened. Imagine the hype and party feel that would have brought. Can you imagine the high notes from Migrate kicking in and opening the show. Shoot maybe Mariah would have went full or mostly pop then afterwards, instead of slow mid tempo RnB that she went back to. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 19:46) this is a reply to message 105,612

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

Amazon Music sales chart (105,616) by T from USA Early today the remix was at tenth spot in the new release section and 56th in total song sales. Then it went up to #7 in new releases and #36 in total song sales. In the last hour it's dropped back to #9 in new releases and #60 in total song sales. We can definitely bring these numbers up at Amazon Music. Let's go get em. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 19:27)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,615) by T from USA You're right. It's up to Billboard at this point. But we can really sway their decision by helping it get one more point this week and re-enter the Top 10. So today everyone buy the remix from Ari's site and Amazon and iTunes. And stream stream stream for the next few days. Stay triumphant keep on living. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 19:23) this is a reply to message 105,613

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,613) by jaker20 from US We don't know. It's going to be very very close. The remix should have more points than the original for her to get credit. Both versions together, it is at no.11 and went +49%. Assuming the original dropped like it did last week, then the remix portion of that should be more than 50% already, giving Mariah credit at this point already. There is no way the original went up after the remix is released, unless there is some shady stuff going on behind the scenes. The 3 new remixes released by Ariana's team complicates it slightly, but it's not doing any numbers currently. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:43)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,614) by Tevin from USA Thanks for the clarification. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 19:16) this is a reply to message 105,609

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,609) by T from USA Well right now, as of their prediction is the song will come in at #11 with a 48% increase from last weeks chart placement. We know that an over 50% increase automatically gives the remix a new credit. So by getting it into the top 10 this week will mean it did go over 50% of an increase from last week, hence the credit. But we only really have today to Thursday morning to do it. So stream now like never before. Buy the remix single off Airana's website. Because next week we know it's going down. This week is the best chance for a Top 10. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 16:53)

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,613) by jaker20 from US We don't know. It's going to be very very close. The remix should have more points than the original for her to get credit. Both versions together, it is at no.11 and went +49%. Assuming the original dropped like it did last week, then the remix portion of that should be more than 50% already, giving Mariah credit at this point already. There is no way the original went up after the remix is released, unless there is some shady stuff going on behind the scenes. The 3 new remixes released by Ariana's team complicates it slightly, but it's not doing any numbers currently. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:43) this is a reply to message 105,608

Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,608) by Tevin from USA Ok so I'm confused, if the OG reaches the top ten, does Mariah get credit or no? Some people say yes, some say no. I'm confused, how does this all work? How can a remix overtake an OG song? (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 15:30)

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

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