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Rockin' Around (104,375)
by Edward from USA
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To be honest, I don't even know how RATCT is even competing with AIWFCIY. The latter is way more festive, the former would be like something to play on Christmas Eve. Maybe Mariah and Brenda agree to defrost together next Christmas seaon.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:49)
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Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,374)
by Tevin from USA
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Awesome, I'm glad you were able to check out those songs. Let's hope Mariah drops a new album in 2024. 
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:49)
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Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,354)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Hi Tevin, thanks for your suggested songs by Taylor. I liked them all but "Dear John" is my favourite. I always say I want a jazz album by Mariah which I still do. I think Mariah could also do some country, gospel and retro-soul. She can sing every genre like she never did something else. That's rare. 
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:29)
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Emotions formula (104,373)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I love "If it's over". One of her best ballads and we know she has so many. But I didn't know this live performance. Wow just wow. Mariah at her best. That's the reason why she's the one and only Mariah Carey.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:41)
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Emotions formula (104,356)
by Jamie from UK
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Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body. 
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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Good voice (104,372)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I can honestly say I had lost all faith in that Mariah would work on her voice and sound good again, but she has impressed me once more. How pleasant and nice it is to hear her live voice again, it's so satisfying and soothing, just listen to this.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 18:28)
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We lost the #1 (104,371)
by jaker20 from US
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Spotify US has around 45M users, while Apple has around 30. There's also a tiered system in Billboard where ad supported streams are counted, even though they are given lesser points, but Spotify ad supported subs is more than double their paid subscribers. That's been the case for many years now.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 18:19)
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We lost the #1 (104,369)
by Edward from USA
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Apple Music is bigger than Spotify here in America. While I would agree Spotifiy is bigger worldwide, local streaming is what counts towards the Hot 100. Mariah is ahead of Brenda on Apple Music.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:36)
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Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,370)
by Bobby A from United States
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I have always thought MC did the collaboration with Ariana and JHud just for a cute festive moment to promote the Apple Music special. They probably recorded their parts separately in different studios and sent it to MC. I don't think the collaboration made the final cut for the special. I never watched the special all the way through because I cringed how thin sounding her voice was on the songs.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:56)
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Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,366)
by jaker20 from US
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What's everyone's opinion on this? It's interesting that the JHud/Ariana collab didn't do much to the song. I personally thought their voices didn't blend so well, and there's no chemistry between them on the video. It wasn't cute or engaging. But we said the same with the AIWFCIY collab with Bieber.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:46)
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We lost the #1 (104,369)
by Edward from USA
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Apple Music is bigger than Spotify here in America. While I would agree Spotifiy is bigger worldwide, local streaming is what counts towards the Hot 100. Mariah is ahead of Brenda on Apple Music.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:36)
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We lost the #1 (104,365)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one.
Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39)
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A look back at 2023 (104,368)
by Jamie from UK
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Gosh it only feels like 2 minutes since top posters was last published.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 16:42)
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A look back at 2023 (104,367)
by Bobby A from United States
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Hello Eric. Thank you for all that you do to keep the board going strong all of these years. I noticed that you were still posting until 9pm Eastern time last night. Usually the last post is 6pm Eastern. Thank you for keeping the hot topic of "We lost #1" going way into the night. It was a fun way to end the night.
And what a year it has been for topics on the board. Can you think about posting on New Year's Eve the top 15 topics of 2023 with the most replies and likes? Just this November and December alone, I know Mariah vs. Brenda, We lost #1, and Emotions formula will make the list. Also, can you post the top posters for 2023? Andrew returned back in August (or was it September?) and tried to take my special guest star status. Lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 16:07)
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A look back at 2023 (104,367)
by Bobby A from United States
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Hello Eric. Thank you for all that you do to keep the board going strong all of these years. I noticed that you were still posting until 9pm Eastern time last night. Usually the last post is 6pm Eastern. Thank you for keeping the hot topic of "We lost #1" going way into the night. It was a fun way to end the night.
And what a year it has been for topics on the board. Can you think about posting on New Year's Eve the top 15 topics of 2023 with the most replies and likes? Just this November and December alone, I know Mariah vs. Brenda, We lost #1, and Emotions formula will make the list. Also, can you post the top posters for 2023? Andrew returned back in August (or was it September?) and tried to take my special guest star status. Lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 16:07)
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Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,366)
by jaker20 from US
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What's everyone's opinion on this? It's interesting that the JHud/Ariana collab didn't do much to the song. I personally thought their voices didn't blend so well, and there's no chemistry between them on the video. It wasn't cute or engaging. But we said the same with the AIWFCIY collab with Bieber.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:46)
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We lost the #1 (104,365)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one.
Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39)
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We lost the #1 (104,363)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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But guys, it is [the] start of December. [If] she doesn't score [a] number one this week, she will do it next week. Trust me.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:31)
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Emotions formula (104,364)
by BFF from United States
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Everything Aretha performed was gospel-influenced because she grew up ensconced in the African-American gospel tradition. She was, I will remind you, the daughter of a prominent minister. "Soul" music would not exist without gospel, blues, rock and jazz. It is a hybrid genre like pop.
You posted tons of strong opinions about "Emotions" as an album. Now others are responding. If you can't handle it, don't post lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:07)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr. 
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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We lost the #1 (104,363)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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But guys, it is [the] start of December. [If] she doesn't score [a] number one this week, she will do it next week. Trust me.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:31)
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We lost the #1 (104,362)
by Anonymous from USA
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Mariah needs another #1 like she needs a hole in the head. She's done it. Now everyone and their grandmother wants to make Holiday music and see they too can make a solid hit. You're right, let someone else shine too.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:18)
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We lost the #1 (104,362)
by Anonymous from USA
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Mariah needs another #1 like she needs a hole in the head. She's done it. Now everyone and their grandmother wants to make Holiday music and see they too can make a solid hit. You're right, let someone else shine too.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:18)
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We lost the #1 (104,359)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm happy with the success she's had with that song already, let someone else have number 1. It's not like it's not been there already.
Christmas songs are so competitive these days, but at least Mariah has a song that's considered one of the last classic Christmas songs.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 13:02)
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Emotions formula (104,361)
by Edward from USA
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That's what I call a perfectly executed performance. She made it seem so effortless. I used to shove these types of performances in people's faces . Those were the days.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:03)
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Emotions formula (104,356)
by Jamie from UK
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Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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We lost the #1 (104,360)
by SM from Citizen of the World
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For the [Billboard Hot] 100. We didn't loose. Final Billboard Global 200 Predictions (chart dated December 9th, 2023) Mariah is #1. 
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:02)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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We lost the #1 (104,359)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm happy with the success she's had with that song already, let someone else have number 1. It's not like it's not been there already.
Christmas songs are so competitive these days, but at least Mariah has a song that's considered one of the last classic Christmas songs.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 13:02)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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Emotions formula (104,358)
by Jamie from UK
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Seems you only like things your way. [You're] usually wrong as seen over and over on this forum. I can't help but think "if it's over" for your opinions.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:59)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,357)
by Bobby A from United States
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She has always praised Stevie Wonder. I have a huge Stevie Wonder collection. Everytime that I hear That Girl, I think of MC.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,352)
by Anonymous from USA
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What are some things that some of you have done because you saw Mariah did or liked? I have a few so I'll go first. When Mariah listed Four Christmases as one of her favorite Holiday movies I had to watch it even though I don't care much for Reese Witherspoon or Vince Vaughn. It was an okay movie. Also I bought her AIWFCIY plushie after I saw hers on her mantle or something like that on one of her social media posts. It was so fetch.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:07)
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Emotions formula (104,356)
by Jamie from UK
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Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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Emotions formula (104,346)
by Andrew from the UK
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Let's remind ourselves what weak certainly does not look like.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:17)
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We lost the #1 (104,355)
by Terna from Nigeria
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She'll be #1 next week, Brenda can settle for number 3.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:59)
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We lost the #1 (104,351)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11)
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Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,354)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Hi Tevin, thanks for your suggested songs by Taylor. I liked them all but "Dear John" is my favourite. I always say I want a jazz album by Mariah which I still do. I think Mariah could also do some country, gospel and retro-soul. She can sing every genre like she never did something else. That's rare.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:29)
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Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,161)
by Tevin from USA
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Dear John, Back to December and Enchanted are three beautiful songs from Taylor's album Speak Now. Give them a listen. It's no Butterfly album but she does have a decent pen game, even if it slightly sub par to Mariah's. Anyway let me know how you like those three songs, they are what made me a Taylor fan.
(Wednesday 22 November 2023; 03:51)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
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Emotions formula (104,348)
by BFF from United States
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You lost me at "If It's Over" as filler. This is one of the best songs in her catalogue. Aretha did plenty of dark gospel-style breakup songs, see "Chain of Fools", "Think", etc. What a silly criticism of an excellent song.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 01:09)
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If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,352)
by Anonymous from USA
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What are some things that some of you have done because you saw Mariah did or liked? I have a few so I'll go first. When Mariah listed Four Christmases as one of her favorite Holiday movies I had to watch it even though I don't care much for Reese Witherspoon or Vince Vaughn. It was an okay movie. Also I bought her AIWFCIY plushie after I saw hers on her mantle or something like that on one of her social media posts. It was so fetch.
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We lost the #1 (104,351)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda.
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We lost the #1 (104,350)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve. 
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:45)
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