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Re: Butterfly 25 (101,085) (101,088) by MusicfanJ from Germany Wow, that would be a nice surprise. I hope it's true. What a wonderful tracklist. Better than any new Christmas "thing". Is there already a date for a release? (Monday 29 August 2022; 12:37)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,076) (101,087) by TheWind from England You make some good points. Especially re Elvis, for example. I remember when there was remixes etc of his music, or some kind of reissue a number of years ago, he had a huge renaissance in his music. Brought it to a whole new audience. I'm going to be brutally honest here, but I don't think Mariah could pull it off with how she overthinks music these days. We as fans may appreciate it, which would be nice for sure, but the general public are unlikely to respond. I would love to be wrong. (Monday 29 August 2022; 12:01)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,082) (101,086) by TheWind from England To be honest, I think I've used the wrong term lol. What I mean is I don't want her to try to sound current. It comes across as cringe and isn't what I want to hear from her. (Monday 29 August 2022; 11:57)

Butterfly 25 (101,085) by Bill from the UK Hi you all. Here's the rumoured tracklisting for the Butterfly 25th anniversary. One thing to note, David Morales said recently an old remix he did for Mariah is coming out soon, so it correlates with the Morales mix for Breakdown listed. If this tracklisting turns out to be true I will be over the moon. 1. Last Chance 4:22 2. Don't Go Looking for Love 3:16 3. After We Said Goodbye 6:12 4. All Cried Out 4:35 5. Make You Happy 4:59 6. Head Over Heels 4:10 7. Lead the Way (1996 demo) 4:18 8. The Roof (Original Version) 7:10 9. Honey (Demo 1) 5:32 10. Honey (Demo 2) 4:36 11. Breakdown (Morales Club Mix) 8:19 12. Fourth of July (Alternative Vocal Take) 4:19 13. Close My Eyes (Acoustic) 3:21 14. The Roof (When I Feel the Need) (feat. Brandy) 5:08 15. Breakdown (featuring Halle Bailey) (Monday 29 August 2022; 11:45)

Re: If saying... (101,077) (101,084) by LaCoya from USA She just looks pregnant to me. I could be wrong. (Monday 29 August 2022; 03:37)

Re: If saying... (101,077) (101,083) by LaCoya from USA Mariah is not fat. I believe that she is pregnant by BT. That is why she is going on that podcast this week. I heard the podcast is last minute, so these are my thoughts. (Monday 29 August 2022; 03:35)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,070) (101,082) by Geronimo from USA You expressed my sentiments exactly except on one point - what exactly is it that you're calling experimental R&B? I love R&B and I would love to hear Mariah Carey experiment. I don't feel like I've heard the latter from her. (Monday 29 August 2022; 03:29)

Re: If saying... (101,077) (101,081) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Awesome, [we're] on the same [page], Stacey. There's no need to be sensitive when someone doesn't agree with you on what MC's best song is, or if she should sing Hero for the millionth time. But as you said, it's different when you declare Mariah is fat, can't sing, or should just retire because your tired of her output. This [woman] will be around for many decades to come, whether it's themed cookies, a new single, or just simply being the one and only Mariah Carey. She's here to say whether you like her corporate boss woman decisions or not. (Monday 29 August 2022; 03:26)

Re: Negativity (101,075) (101,080) by Geronimo from USA Very well said. I completely agree with you about Christmas. I get that she needs to focus on money because, depending on your lifestyle and your location and your other responsibilities, that simply is how life is. There are some other nuanced things I would like to say about her overall well-being and aesthetic as a maturing lady lately, but I'm gonna wait until I can find the right words because doing so in a sloppy way will simply add to the brutish negativity that needs to disappear. (Monday 29 August 2022; 03:26)

Nicki Minaj thanks Mariah Carey (101,079) by SM from Citizen of the World During her video vanguard acceptance speech at the VMA's. (Monday 29 August 2022; 03:10)

Re: New Mariah feat. Ariana Grande out 9/2 (101,073) (101,078) by Stacey from USA I think this is a great strategy. Stay quiet then drop hints a few days before and bam release the project. Here's hoping for a Fall surprise. (Monday 29 August 2022; 00:22)

Re: If saying... (101,074) (101,077) by Stacey from USA Saying her voice is shot and MC should retire is of course being negative. Saying she's fat and needs to loose weight is negative. I don't deny that. The real problem, the point I'm trying to make is when someone takes that "negative" comment as a personal attack against their own opinions and seeks to tell that person off, prove them wrong, you're not a real fan, etc. I believe in the free exchange of ideas. Such a lost art. (Monday 29 August 2022; 00:20)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,069) (101,076) by jaker20 from US I personally don't mind her re-recording her classic albums in some way, sort of a different spin but the overall spirit of the songs and album would still be there. These are classic albums that can never be replicated. So she should put a different take on them, not just sing them note for note, like covering her own songs. But it would take plenty of creative thinking to achieve it, or getting the right people involved. I think classic songs should be updated for them to really reach more people and classic status. Beatles and Elvis songs would be forgotten by now if it wasn't for hundreds of artists covering his songs. Mariah's songs are difficult to sing, which is a double edge sword. No one can replicate her originals, but it also limits transcending different walk of life because of their degree of difficulty to sing, and that's where covers and reinterpretations come in. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 21:52)

Re: Negativity (101,061) (101,075) by jaker20 from US The latter. Some here are just being oversensitive. I don't see anything wrong with posters expressing their thoughts particularly when Mariah is being silly. Imagine being one of the most impactful female artist of all time, having the most number 1's, next only to the biggest band of al time, now wanting to be called the queen of Christmas. What a giant step down just to make money. She's already the queen of Christmas by main accounts. But to claim it for more Christmas bags and merch is embarrassing. It just make her seem like she doesn't want to make music anymore. It is bound to backfire. She should focus on making music. I want more of Caution and show more of her art. One thing that do annoy me though is when lambs say her voice is shot. That's a lie. It's only true if you think Mariah should make more 90s type music where she does high notes 90% of the album. That style has its time, 30 years ago. She also doesn't sound like that anymore. It's not better of worse, just different. Caution proves that, because she sounds great on it. She should express her art in that level now, and collaborate. It's called changed and growth. Unfortunately she may have to shred some lambs who expect her to sing in 90s standards. But it's not like they're checking Caution. Peace all. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 21:30)

If saying... (101,074) by Matty from Vancouver Canada If saying your "opinion" is that Mariah's voice is shot, she's got nothing left and she needs to retire isn't negativity. Negativity doesn't exist. There's opinions, and then there's negativity. Don't confuse the two. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 20:54)

Re: New Mariah feat. Ariana Grande out 9/2 (101,063) (101,073) by Terna from Nigeria I think it is because there's an audio clip, I also saw a compilation record track listing which basically had the songs she wrote during the "Butterfly" [era] but also [including] her own demos for the Allure songs, slated for September 16th this year. We all know by now that Mariah has been very silent for a long time now and that's indicative she's hard at work on a project but trying hard not to divulge any details or end up under pressure to put out something just because, and I think this is the best way to have it. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 18:48)

Vocal influences (101,072) by Terna from Nigeria This just might be one of Mariah's favorite songs, I can hear the influence on her singing style. Exaggerated soft falsetto verses and big voiced choruses. Ugh how time flies, I still remember when I heard this song for the first time. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 18:37)

Re: Negativity (101,064) (101,071) by Bobby A from United States Yes, it is. I am staying very busy this year. Have a great year. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 14:25)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,067) (101,070) by TheWind from England I'd love a new Mariah album, and you're right, it's completely her decision to do what she wants. I'm merely expressing what I would like or what I think she should do. I'd love Mariah to do a comeback and I'd love to be wrong, but I'm just saying I don't see it happening if we get more experimental type RnB stuff. That's all. And let's be clear, I love Mariah like you wouldn't believe. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 12:21)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,053) (101,069) by TheWind from England I agree with this, but personally, I don't want any of her classic records reimagined. However, it would be better than her making what she perceives to be a cool record. (Sunday 28 August 2022; 12:19)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,067) (101,068) by Tameka walker from United states I couldn't agree more. We have lost so many greats and Mariah is still here by the grace of God. Let's show her our love while she is still here. (Saturday 27 August 2022; 19:43)

Re: If it was Whitney? (101,052) (101,067) by Libra Lamb from USA No disrespect to anyone here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Having said that, I don't think anyone except Mariah should decide what kind of music or album she wants to put out. She's so much more than we give her credit for. I wish she would release another comeback album just to show you all. Please give her the flowers she deserves while she is still with us. She's a musical genius. (Saturday 27 August 2022; 17:55)

Re: Negativity (101,061) (101,066) by MusicfanJ from Germany "Wee bit too sensitive to opinions contrary." Oh yes. Sadly it seems nowadays a trend worldwide. I remember a time [where] different opinions weren't taken negative. Good times. And the people seemed happier. Anyway who wants to start with something positive? Anything? (Saturday 27 August 2022; 17:19)

Re: Nick Cannon (101,037) (101,065) by Susana from USA I agree, probably the most ridiculous is still the name Zillion Heir. I don't know that he will inherit that much by the time it's split a zillion ways. (Saturday 27 August 2022; 17:07)

Re: Negativity (101,062) (101,064) by Stacey from USA Fellow SPED teacher, how cool is that? Hoping you have a good year. I hear you on living the weekends. A good MC song does me good on my drive home. (Saturday 27 August 2022; 14:34)

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