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Re: Nick Cannon (99,601) (99,603) by Bobby A from United States His 65th birthday party is going to be a huge family reunion with all of his grown kids and grandchildren. I wish that he would take some time and record a new album. His last album was a great party CD. (Wednesday 2 February 2022; 12:18)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,602) by enwar00 from usa Not no casket in front of her. Holy moly that made me laugh. Followed by no presence of a diva requiring movement to the background. (Wednesday 2 February 2022; 09:02)

Nick Cannon (99,601) by Brad from USA I feel for Mariah. His course of conduct is very troubling and indicative of a pathology. It creates an aura of uncertainty for her and her children that must be incredibly stressful and disconcerting. May God’s strength be with her and her children. Nick Cannon is a psychopath. 'Nuff said. (Wednesday 2 February 2022; 01:58)

Re: Underated? (99,599) (99,600) by T from USA I think the reason she was never heavily advertised as a songwriter was because she wrote in collaboration with others on pretty much every song. Only [Vanishing] comes to mind for completely self penned. I think there's two kinds of song writers. The Carole King, Stevie Wonder, Alanis Moresette type who write all of their own songs in their entirety. And the other kind is Mariah, Janet, Madonna, Justin Timberlake, who write all their songs but only certain lyrics or lines in each song. (Wednesday 2 February 2022; 01:33)

Re: Underated? (99,595) (99,599) by Matty from Vancouver Canada That's very true about the one dimensional approach by Celine. To think the same women could give us Right to Dream, Shake it Off, and Hero for example. That's kind of why I'm surprised MC doesn't write more for other artists since she came plug into such a variety of genres. I wonder why Mariah's songwriting wasn't highlighted as her biggest differentiator from the very start (against Celine or Whitney). Her voice always was pushed center stage (again with the Whitney comparisons). This was in the era that female singer-songwriters were getting so much credit and exposure (ie: Jewel, Sarah Mclachlan; Annie Lennox etc. Lilith Fair festival was massive). Some people to this day are still surprised she writes her own material, and it's only been in the last 10 years or so she's being introduced as a singer songwriter. It took them long enough to get her in the Songwriters Hall of Fame imo. (Wednesday 2 February 2022; 00:23)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,593) (99,598) by Randy from USA Terna, you know I love you like tea time in July. But seriously half of those are backing track assisted. Ima kill this topic before the webmaster does but frfr I wish you and I could spend a day together dissecting YouTube performances. And yes there are a few performances that she killed pre Butterfly but after 97 it was more often than not she either lipped or had an excuse. I do live for that impromptu for the fans Jimmy Fallon though. Have a great day. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 20:04)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,593) (99,597) by Bill from the UK I don't wish to rain on your parade but literally all those performances you listed were either pre-recorded or dubbed. The only full, genuine end to end live performances happened from debut through to Merry Christmas. All the home concert videos were dubbed and touched up in the studios, and from Daydream onwards performances started to incorporate lip syncing and pre-recorded vocals. Sorry. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 20:04)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,588) (99,596) by Bill from the UK You're right. Puff said as well that she recorded 50 takes of Honey so he could select the best parts for the track, and many others have said that is a "perfectionist" in the studio, which is probably a polite way of saying she's a control freak lol. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 16:08)

Re: Underated? (99,592) (99,595) by Bill from the UK Yes I agree on the one dimensional aspect. It's probably due to Celine approaching most of her songs in the same manner. Mariah always varies her vocal approach, as well as the song itself. My Saving Grace, a gospel tinged song with great uplifting vocals, followed on from Clown, a low, slow R&B diss track. You wouldn't get that versatility on many other singers' albums. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 16:07)

Re: New era excitement and anticipation (99,591) (99,594) by Bobby A from United States I just feel like MC has heard all of us and she is going to deliver this year on wax. However, I feel that she will never be able replicate the recording during a live performance without lip syncing and a backing track. She has lost her stage presence and the vocals needed to deliver a great vocal performance. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 16:05)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,588) (99,593) by Terna from Nigeria Celine [sounds] just like the record but Mariah sounds better (all caps) than the record, a [feat] she's repeated countless times. What we're not gonna do is pretend Mariah can't sing a song in one take ala a live performance setting, [because] old girl is a beast in her own right. You've been listening to those "friends" of yours too long. 1. Hero (Proctor's theater 1993) 2. Emotions (MTV Unplugged 1992, cleaner sharper high notes) 3. You're Mine (BET Honors Awards 2014) 4. Fly Like a Bird (Grammy Awards 2006) 5. Through The Rain (Shinning through the rain MTV) 6. We Belong Together (MTV Movie Awards 2005, The tonight show David Letterman) 7. The Distance (Jimmy Fallon show 2018) 8. I'll Be Loving You Long Time (MTV awards Japan 2008, Teen Choice Awards) 9. Vision of Love (BET Blueprint) 2005 10. My Saving Grace (Oprah Winfrey Show 2003) 11. I Stay in Love (AMA 2008) 12. Can't Take That Away (Divas Live 2000 A tribute to Diana Ross) I'll stop here, there many more that can be added to the list. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 15:48)

Re: Underated? (99,566) (99,592) by Terna from Nigeria I love Céline a lot actually, have all her English records as well, and yes as some members here have pointed out "Falling into you" is her best album. It also was my first Céline album. Lol. Having said this, I would say that she's not a versatile singer like Mariah is. The ability Carey has to dabble into multiple [genres] and come across as seasoned and believable, Céline lacks and for the most part can come across as one-dimensional. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 15:16)

Re: New era excitement and anticipation (99,587) (99,591) by T from USA Well it's her first album since going #1 again on the BB100. That alone will ignite a fire in her to make some more hits I believe. I actually think JD could really help this time around as it's been a while since they did anything together (minus Save The Day, but that was a leftover). (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 15:04)

Whitney Mariah and Celine at the Oscars 1999 (99,590) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia While now we're talking about Mariah and Celine, I just observed that, correct me if I'm wrong, the only time that the vocal trinity happened to be at the same time same place together was at the Academy Awards 1999. Just imagined if the producers wanted the vocal trinity to perform for the In Memoriam segment singing song as a tribute for the legends who passed away. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:59)

Re: Article: The story behind Mariah Carey's "We Belong Together" (99,569) (99,589) by Terna from Nigeria I always look forward to Jermaine's music production and collaborations, that man is a musical genius and has that creative magic with Mariah. The very first song they wrote together, is one of her massive hits. That in itself is a flex. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:44)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,584) (99,588) by Randy from USA Damn Bill, I just died laughing. Some of yours are fans excuses, didn't come directly from MC. And before this board starts, I really do love MC I am just part of a diva gladiator nation and whilest I rep MC my friends that are Patti and Whitney warriors slay me whenever MC steps on stage. So it's personal for me. Someone said I need to get over myself. Ima ignore that. But the person who asked why so many excuses. I've come to figure it out through research. From the beginning Mariah recorded songs until they sounded perfect. Narada Michael Walden said so in interviews. Mariah has always been a studio artist and a perfectionist. Unlike an athlete at a game or a broadway performer, Mariah can redo her vocals as much as possible but she suffers from stage fright and all those wonderful vocals on wax has made many consider her one of the greatest singers of all time, adding pressure. So of course she fails at live singing. She's created a vocal standard that no one can replicate. Including herself. I ain't mad at her for it. But what we're not gonna do is sit here and try to say on the spot with no rehearsals and no pristine conditions that Mariah could compare to Celine in 2022. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:31)

Re: New era excitement and anticipation (99,551) (99,587) by Terna from Nigeria Reminds me so much of the quiet before the "Emancipation" storm that didn't let up until at least mid 2006, and that era began early, say around February 2005, and poor miss "I don't know her" was its first casualty. Haha. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 14:10)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,586) by Mò from South Africa Randy and Bill, wow, lol. But I have to agree, enough about excuses. In as much as Mariah is my number 1, Celine is highly talented, humble and relatable on a human level. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 12:31)

Re: Obsessed with Nicki Minaj (99,582) (99,585) by Steven Berning from USA No. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 10:37)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,584) by Bill from the UK You forgot these: - nodules - corset too tight - bronchitis - in the middle of divorce proceedings - arm in jewel-encrusted sling - has nothing to prove - no humidifier - too many splashes beforehand (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 09:48)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,583) by Steven Berning from USA You should get over yourself. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 03:35)

Obsessed with Nicki Minaj (99,582) by T from USA Hey all. Just had a thought. We know that Mariah teamed up with Nicki in 2009 for the UOMF remix and the video and song were pretty good. But what if instead of that song she tapped Nicki to be the feature on the original Obsessed? Do you think it would've went even higher than #7 on the BB100? In stead of Gucci Mane she really could've had a smash hit if she had Nicki on the track, that's my opinion. Maybe like what a newish Jay Z was to Heartbreaker, Nicki could've been to Obsessed. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 03:27)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,581) by SM from Citizen of the World Why do you think she has so many excuses? (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 03:18)

Re: Underated? (99,577) (99,580) by Bobby A from United States This post has to be from Andrew. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 02:10)

Yours ft. Justin Timberlake (99,579) by Bobby A from United States One of my followers said that they doubt it that we will ever here [sic] the Yours remix. I don't believe that. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 02:02)

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