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Re: Songwriters speech (100,475) (100,480) by Brad from USA I agree that Mariah's speech could have used some editing, but it wasn't incoherent or really ditzy. To me, it had the feel of the child that shoulders the burden of everything that is wrong in life for years on end and finally the child is given a chance to speak their truth and every bottled up thought and emotion comes pouring out of the child all at once. What her appearance also shows is that we as fans really have zero clues as to what is going on with her in her personal and professional life, as well as her physical and mental health. That is the way it should be, as we each deserve privacy. Clearly, Mariah isn't going to be releasing new music when she is at a rough stage in her own life, as she is now. She has two children to raise (on her own), who are entering difficult years of development and a brand/business to figure out how to sustain, grow, develop and secure for the foreseeable future. The release of new music just isn't a component of that right now as it doesn't pay the bills any longer. But hopefully she is still writing and when she gets to a place where she wants to record and send something out into the universe she will be able to. That just is not right now. For now and always, lets enjoy and relish who she is and what she has given us for so, so long. And we will keep that fire burning. (Friday 17 June 2022; 19:46)

Re: Songwriters speech (100,475) (100,479) by Bill from the UK Regrettably I agree. I was looking so forward to this moment, given she has fought to be acknowledged as a songwriter since 1990. To get such a great accolade, probably the most important to her, and show up drunk and be completely incoherent and give some rambling nonsensical speech was such a disappointment. I was actually saddened. This is forever, and how she'll be remembered. She says underneath the diva attitude she's the gifted songwriter etc., but she was almost a parody of herself. Absolutely heart breaking. (Friday 17 June 2022; 19:35)

Re: Songwriters speech (100,475) (100,478) by Stacey from USA Yeah, it was messy. Her speech at the Billboard awards, Icon Award, was perfect. I wish she could have channeled that same thought process, saying things like writing songs helped me survive my struggles and helped many of you survive yours, etc. (Friday 17 June 2022; 19:01)

Re: Songwriters speech (100,475) (100,477) by Weston from United States Randy, I have to agree with you It was kind of cringy to watch. She should have left the diva persona at home and kept it serious about her songwriting. (Friday 17 June 2022; 17:47)

Re: Songwriters speech (100,475) (100,476) by Anonymous from United States It's absurd that a 53-year-old adult behaves like this but then in the next breath complains about "not being taken seriously as a songwriter". (Friday 17 June 2022; 17:47)

Songwriters speech (100,475) by Randy from USA It was awful. Incoherent. Ditzy. But you all say I'm negative. What did you all think? (Friday 17 June 2022; 16:47)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey to get in Songwriters Hall of Fame (100,473) (100,474) by jaker20 from US My wish for Mariah's next coming years and decades is to be like Paul McCartney, and that is to keep on writing, keep on sharing her gifts, keep writing even for other artists. (Friday 17 June 2022; 16:39)

Article: Mariah Carey to get in Songwriters Hall of Fame (100,473) by jaker20 from US This is probably one of Mariah's most important moments more than her other supposedly "major" awards. An event that that will happen quietly but have bigger meaning to her, because this is what separates her craft from all the rest. She's not just a voice, she's an artist. (Friday 17 June 2022; 16:20)

Re: Collaborations (100,468) (100,472) by Hpr1902 from China Ok. And then? (Friday 17 June 2022; 13:05)

Michael Buble (100,471) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Heard an interview with the Boobs today on the radio here in Australia. He was asked a question about tours and setlists, to which he responded: "Lets be real, I'm a legacy artist. People want to come and hear songs they know. If I start talking about new songs that I'm writing, nobody is going to give a s**t. All you have to do is look at others in this industry that try that. People stop coming to see you." Maybe this is why we aren't getting anything new from Mariah - she's come to the same realisation as Michael Buble, and the rest of the world? It ain't a bad thing! (Friday 17 June 2022; 08:52)

Congrats Mariah (100,470) by Lady B from USA What an incredible, and well deserved, honor. (Friday 17 June 2022; 02:33)

Re: Beyoncé album? (100,465) (100,469) by Matty from Vancouver Canada How is this Beyonce album a "surprise album", it's coming out in a month. That just sounds like good marketing and timing in the age of sound bites and short attention spans. Mariah released #Beautiful and then a year and a couple weeks later finally dropped the album; that isn't good timing evening in 2013/2014. Beyonce has always been loved by the media, but Beyonce also knows how to play roles and act in each era (Mariah has never released an album as Bianca, where as Beyonce played the role of Sasha Fierce for years). (Thursday 16 June 2022; 23:25)

Re: Collaborations (100,463) (100,468) by Matty from Vancouver Canada This is such an odd discussion; why is Caution not a "Mariah album" according to some, because she's not belting or throwing her voice off every wall? I think it's a stunning Mariah album; songs like Giving Me Life is exactly how I like to hear Mariah use her voice. It's like saying Joanne isn't a Lady Gaga album because it's not Electric dance pop. I don't think Mariah was chasing any trends for charting with Caution, I think she was genuinely recording a sound she enjoys, with fun and vibrant album artwork. The music videos are also beautiful, classy and fun. It felt very Mariah in 2018, and could even be in 2022, the album still feels current. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 23:20)

Re: Songwriters Hall of Fame website (100,464) (100,467) by Jamie from UK Hate to break it to you but Mariah was actually born in 1969. It's only since she was launched that they said she was born in 1970. Probably to make her sound younger. But her official documents say 1969. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 23:04)

Re: Beyoncé album? (100,465) (100,466) by Bobby A from United States Beyonce has been on a different level with the media and the Beehive since she dropped her albums Beyonce and Lemonade. After she released her lackluster album 4, Beyonce took her career to a different level. All of this new hype started a week ago when she removed all of her profile pics from her social media. She does little things like this to get the world wondering what she is plotting next in her career. We only wish MC would step up her game to get the world talking about her next moves. Chat time with the Lambily on Twitter Spaces every three months is not going to do it. She gives us the same spill everytime that she is "working on multiple projects". How long have we been hearing this spill? It has been since March of 2021. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 21:42)

Beyoncé album? (100,465) by Nicole from US So now everybody talking about B and her "surprise" album. How can the media talk about her like that and none won't even give Mimi that same level of anticipation and respect? Or am I wrong to even observe that and it's just me? (Thursday 16 June 2022; 21:17)

Songwriters Hall of Fame website (100,464) by Brad from USA This honor means a lot to Mariah. I was looking at the website for the Songwriters Hall of Fame and the profile they have for Mariah. It is filled with errors. They indicate she was born in 1969. Nope. They indicate her first song was titled "Visions of Love". Nope. I could go on and on. Its pretty disrespectful in some ways but nonetheless I hope she has a wonderful ceremony and feels truly honored for her work to date. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 19:07)

Re: Collaborations (100,461) (100,463) by jaker20 from US I don't want to sound combative but the level of disrespect of some lambs is mind boggling, hence my posts for reality check. If you don't like Caution that is fine. But don't turn around and say she should just make what she's good at instead of chasing the charts. You are the one chasing the charts by asking her to make similar albums from the past which is success-based. What she's accomplished in the past and what she is now can co-exist, and if you are unable to accept that, then my point remains: you are living in fantasy land and you are free to do so as I am to call you out for your hypocrisy. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 18:07)

Re: Collaborations (100,456) (100,462) by Mò from South Africa Bill, I pray Mariah never has to address "issues" relating to her voice. As a perfectionist that she is, she continues to record music, and put an effort to work with whatever state her voice is in. We all have free will, and can move on to artists we believe have voices meeting our ear preferences, instead of wanting to strip Mariah of her dignity by explaining to the world the state of her voice. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 15:40)

Re: Collaborations (100,451) (100,461) by T from USA With all due respect it's not the lambs living in fantasy land, it's Mariah herself. She's the one covering [Always be my baby] and [Close my eyes] in 2020. She's the one who constantly claimed the pandemic restored her old voice. She's the one living in the past, or as you put it in fantasy land. She's always trying to remind us of what was and lead us to believe that more is on the way. Those six years that everyone alludes to, the peak years, had three elements: the voice, Walter A, and Tommy Mottola. None of which are present anymore. But let's not get it twisted. Those six years were probably the best six years any artist in the history of recorded music has ever had. If Mariah wants to go current and make music for the teens she has one more chance, after that I foresee jazz and gospel albums in her future. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 14:17)

Article: Mariah Carey looks unrecognizable in new video (100,460) by Betty from Canada I admit that I was not sure myself but I thought that it was just the filter, the angle or the makeup. (Thursday 16 June 2022; 13:02)

What if Hero was given to Gloria Estefan (100,459) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia I'm just bored, so while listening to Music Box, I was thinking what if Hero was given to Gloria Estefan, what song would Sony or Tommy/Mariah would release as second single after Dreamlover? I would pick All I've Ever Wanted or Never Forget You. Imagine Mariah singing live for All I've Ever Wanted especially the bridge and the final chorus. Just wow. Maybe Everything Fades Away or Do You Think Of Me would be chosen to be included in the regular album version (because they lack one song after Hero was given out). (Thursday 16 June 2022; 10:22)

New face (100,458) by Brad from USA Hopefully it's just angle, make-up and lighting. We don't need Mariah Carey to look like Tyra Banks; just to look like herself, with whatever that comes with in 2022. (Wednesday 15 June 2022; 22:52)

Re: Collaborations (100,451) (100,457) by MusicfanJ from Germany No I don't want her to retire. I think you misunderstood what I wrote/meant. I miss real musicians, a real band not just only beats. It has nothing to do with fantasy, it's a matter of taste nothing more. I like "Caution" too but it's not my favourite. If you love "Caution" that's cool. I'm still happy with "The Rarities" and maybe one can hope for a Rarities Part two. (Wednesday 15 June 2022; 21:56)

Re: Collaborations (100,451) (100,456) by Bill from the UK I never said anything derogatory a out her post-90s output. In fact I agree, Caution is a great album. My issue is that she still happily pretends to be "The Voice", when she isn't. As you've said, her voice has changed. Nobody's voice in the industry has ever declined as rapidly as Mariah's has. Whether that was bad technique, bad choices, over singing, over working, or Michael Jackson's casket, we'll never know. Because she will never address it. Just shatter the illusion already and be honest. (Wednesday 15 June 2022; 21:18)

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