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Re: Best opening line (97,830) (97,836) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Now, you *can’t* have me when you want me. Infidel. (Thursday 15 April 2021; 17:50)

Re: Breakdown ad libs (97,832) (97,835) by Anonymous from UK She says "Why d'you think it gotta be (blank) suffering?" It's not her enunciation that's a problem there - the track is actually distorted, with the backing/layered vocals overwhelming the word she uses. I personally presume she says "me" for the following reasons: 1. It follows the ad libbed question "how do I feel?" 2. It aligns with, and is dominated by, the layered repeated vocals at the point of "I'm suffering". 3. It's the only word that fits the sentence properly. She could have answered "How do you think it feels suffering?", it would've made more sense, and fitted the same melody, but she clearly says "why". Maybe the stems will give us an answer, if anyone has heard them. Or maybe she'll give us a stripped version with clearer vocals. Alternately, she could be using a word like "fun", to ask a rhetorical question, as in: "Why? Do you think its gonna be fun suffering?" (Thursday 15 April 2021; 16:35)

Re: Best opening line (97,752) (97,834) by enwar00 from usa I woke up in the middle of the night, and this line flowed through my mind: "Soft, heavenly eyes gazed into me, transcending space and time." From an oft forgotten song with outstanding vocals. (Thursday 15 April 2021; 16:23)

Re: Breakdown ad libs (97,832) (97,833) by Bill from the UK She says "What I say at the beginning of Honey is honey you can have me when you want me" but really quickly, Bone Thugs style. (Thursday 15 April 2021; 16:09)

Breakdown ad libs (97,832) by Terna from Nigeria Since we're arguing about Mariah's enunciation, I always wondered what she was saying in "Breakdown" at the ad libs part - "But in reality I'm, I'm slowly losing my mind", "How do I feel", "What...". Most people always go what's she saying there. Mariah if you read this might as well answer it yourself. Hehe. (Thursday 15 April 2021; 14:46)

Re: Best opening line (97,828) (97,831) by Bill from the UK It's actually "Honey when you walk by every night". (Thursday 15 April 2021; 13:17)

Re: Best opening line (97,829) (97,830) by Anonymous from UK Bill, I wouldn't bother explaining something that's undeniably fact. Andrew is either having you on, and wasting your time, or he actually believes what he's saying, which, if the case, makes his arrogance all that more amusing. I suspect it's the former, but either way, fact is fact and Mariah said what she said. (Thursday 15 April 2021; 12:20)

Re: Best opening line (97,827) (97,829) by Bill from the UK Yeh, thing is she doesn't though. You are actually wrong on this (I know you never can hold the mirror up, so I can understand the denial), but I await the day when you hear it like everybody else here and it clicks for you as it did me and the others. I suppose you have to ask yourself these questions: 1. Mariah is a known perfectionist, especially in the studio. A large selection of producers have stated this over the last 30 years. Is it feasible that she would mess up her own opening line on what was going to be the launch pad single for a new phase of her career on the permanent, forevermore album version, yet sing it correctly every other time? 2. Mariah is a songwriter and likes to constantly remind everyone of this fact. How likely is it that she would deviate from her own lyrics that she wrote, again for the permanent forevermore album version of the song, yet clearly open with "Honey you can" on every other rendition of the song she has ever done. 3. According to Puff Daddy, Mariah recorded over 50 takes of Honey so he could choose the best parts for the song. In all 50 takes, is it likely that Mariah would sing a different lyric for one time, and that ends up being the one that Puff selected, that went through production by both him and Mariah and mastering all the way through to release with nobody realising. 4. "Now you can have me when you want me" is not a line ever uttered in any remix, either as the opening, or as a refrain. The So So Def Remix in fact repeats the "honey you can have me when you want me" line from the four minute mark to the outro of the song. Indeed, it opens with "Oh honey (so so def), you can have me...", as does the Morales remix. 5. The first pressing of the Daydream album had incorrect lyrics for One Sweet Day printed. The second pressing quickly corrected this soon after the release. No second pressing or re-issue of Butterfly has ever changed the opening line to "Now you can have me". The promo CDs issued at the time also included the lyrics which also stated "Honey you can have me". All official lyric sources do not concur with you I'm afraid. To help you out, the easiest way to hear it is to focus on the beat after the "oh oh oh" part before the opening verse. It goes "oh oh oh (beat) 'ney you can have me...". The (beat) is when she utters the "ho" part, albeit at the back of her throat somewhat, and it sounds raspy. So it's like "h'neeh you can have me when you want me". I do admit it isn't clear. At all. I can understand how you can mishear it, as I was in the group of people who once scratched their heads over that line as well, but mishear it you have I'm afraid. (Thursday 15 April 2021; 10:44)

Re: Best opening line (97,797) (97,828) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Everyone knows the best opening line is from Fantasy: "Now, when you walk by every night, talking sweet and looking fine.." (Thursday 15 April 2021; 10:33)

Re: Best opening line (97,826) (97,827) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Nope. She sings "Now..." on the record. I even bought some new headphones for my faulty ears. Sorry, hun. Back to the spreadsheets. (Thursday 15 April 2021; 10:14)

Re: Best opening line (97,824) (97,826) by Bill from the UK Lol, you did though. She says "Honey you can have me when you want me", clear as day. The studio version, remixes, live performances, and lyrics all support this. You did mishear it, but it's understandable after you explained being hard of hearing, as I also misheard it for several years. What she does is sort of skip the "o" so it's more like "h'ney you can have..." and as I explained the "ho" bit sort of catches in her throat a bit. It's not her cleanest or clearest opening, but she definitely does not sing "now". (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 20:20)

Re: Best opening line (97,815) (97,825) by Myles from CT, USA I could not agree more. Until I opened up that gorgeous brown booklet I always thought it was, "Now you can have me when you want me." (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 18:55)

Re: Best opening line (97,821) (97,824) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I misheard neither the lyric, nor you. No problem, we can do it this way. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 18:51)

Re: Nick (97,814) (97,823) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter "What I should do is create a lot of nerdy nonsensical spreadsheets that really don't mean anything to anyone, sprinkle that with an air is superiority and use that as a substitute for a personality." Weren't you already doing that all this time? Haha. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 14:54)

Re: Where I Belong 3rd most added song on Rhythmic (97,820) (97,822) by T from USA I think the fast rapping at the end is this versions take on "I would climb a mountain high". (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 14:16)

Re: Best opening line (97,815) (97,821) by Bill from the UK You misheard a lyric, it happens, I don't see why you have to call me boring though. We all do it, especially as Mariah's enunciation isn't always that great at times. I was coming here to add but see others have already got there before me, but it's even more prominent in the re-sung remixes. Once you do hear it though it becomes quite obvious. Also I didn't know you were hard of hearing so I am sorry if my headphone comment was insensitive. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 11:37)

Re: Where I Belong 3rd most added song on Rhythmic (97,816) (97,820) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Do you like this song? I don't *not* like it, I just feel I am waiting for something to happen that doesn't come. In their first outing it was the "I would climb a mountain high...". The songs needs this kinda peak. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 10:34)

Re: Best opening line (97,817) (97,819) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I'm tangential, darling, tangential. Often imitated, never duplicated. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 10:33)

Re: Best opening line (97,812) (97,818) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia When I was 16, the year Honey was released, I really thought she said "There you can have me when you want me." Then after I bought the album and read the lyrics and watch all the live performances, only I realized she sings "Honey you can have me when you want me." (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 05:30)

Re: Best opening line (97,812) (97,817) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Lol how does "now you can have me when you want me" even make sense? Even in the remixes she says "honey you can have me when you want me". In the Morales remix and the original she says it in the beginning, in the JD remix she says even more clearly "oh honey you can have me when you want me", and then repeats it multiple times at the end. Andrew is on a different tangent today. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 03:18)

Where I Belong 3rd most added song on Rhythmic (97,816) by T from USA WIB was the third most added song on rhythmic radio. And the video is nearing 10 million views. Lets go. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 03:16)

Re: Best opening line (97,812) (97,815) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I always took this as an example. Mariah may sing "Honey, you can have me..." in live performances but it doesn't change that she sang "Now, you can have me..." on the track, regardless of print. In my opinion. I may possibly not claim to be the authority on anything here but having been born very hard of hearing - so much so that I could not speak properly through my early years - and having had to rely upon lipreading throughout childhood whilst many surgeries were performed on my ears, I was pretty good at reading lips. It's one of the reasons I can call out Mariah lipping from a mile away standing on my head whilst spinning. Still with considerable loss of hearing at specific frequencies (and worsening according to my latest audiology) day-by-day I rely upon lipreading to single out the voices of those speaking to me in accumulative and background noise. It means I am constantly looking at someone's mouth rather than their eyes - which I often have to explain isn't out of rudeness but necessity. Masks for Covid is a pain. I think I can say I am good at lip reading. In fact, I could pick you boring the arse off someone at a distance in a noisy crowded hallway whilst Mariah stands at the top or it singing "Honey, you can have me when you want me." (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 01:45)

Re: Nick (97,813) (97,814) by Andrew from the United Kingdom No, I was just musing, not replying to you. I am trying to multi-task with a lot of work. What I should do is create a lot of nerdy nonsensical spreadsheets that really don't mean anything to anyone, sprinkle that with an air is superiority and use that as a substitute for a personality. But I won't. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 01:25)

Re: Nick (97,811) (97,813) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Wait what? What are you even talking about? Were you even replying to my post? Where did I give Nick a pass because he's wealthy? I said he's a mess and immature. (Wednesday 14 April 2021; 00:31)

Re: Best opening line (97,810) (97,812) by Bill from the UK I mean, it's actually "honey" though. The lyric booklet confirms as do all the live performances where you can hear it more clearly so (ellipses) yeah. Invest in some headphones that don't come free with your phone. (Tuesday 13 April 2021; 23:47)

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