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Migrate or I'm That Chick (97,290) by T from USA For the follow up to Touch My Body in the summer of 2008? I think I'm That Chick as more poppy dance music was starting to emerge on the horizon and Mariah could've been one step ahead of the curve. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 16:36)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,286) (97,289) by Andrew from the United Kingdom A few quick online searches has proved you wrong, it seems. There are many sites that state that artists whose ventures don't make a lot of money are required to pay back the advance or have them recouped out of royalties or future earnings. Music Labels are not charitable enterprises and (admittedly, at a guess) I shouldn't think they give two shiny shits if they have a legacy artist on their books or not. I shouldn't think it a reasonable use of time or money if they are not getting adequate return for it. If Mariah still had a lot of power I don't think she would be dictated to by a record label about "grats" and so on. However, this is all moot if Mariah writes an album that people want to buy. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 12:27)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,282) (97,288) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Prey tell, what evidence would Mariah provide?" It is "pray, tell". "Pray" is an archaic and, perhaps, arcane word for a polite request. It's a common mistake so don't feel too bad that you, somewhat ironically, used it to patronise. "The same evidence Allison provides for ritual abuse? There is none." That's probably a strawman argument. In any case, Allison's own claims are not in question here; Mariah's are. "Mariah didn't make accusations - she described the trauma she endured and what it did to her." I understand what you are trying to say but would offer that you may not be clear in your thinking. Mariah has published and claimed on television that Allison committed criminal acts and offences against her person. Without evidence substantiating the claims, I think Allison has reasonable claim against Mariah for libel and slander. It's been a (*cough*) while since I read Law so perhaps there is someone more qualified an authority now on here to speak on the subject. However, I believe my statements to be correct. "Actual trauma victims who contain what happened to them get a sense of relief from talking about it. It's a part of standing up for yourself and not hiding the truth." I appreciate it's a difficult issue. On the one hand, there are people who have been on the receiving end of many different types of abuse and the truths of the events don't feel natural to hide. On the other hand, to make allegations that damages someone's reputation is quite serious and such allegations should really have evidence to support them, and not just a "lived experience" claim, lest innocent people have their good characters tarnished by vindictive people without recompense. "Allison had no problem attacking Mariah for 20 years making money from wild claims without proof. In fact, she's still doing it now with this lawsuit. Why shouldn't Mariah get a say? Different rules for her?" Countersuit. "Allison doesn't have a case. She's less than credible with all her issues and history." That's not for you to decide but for Allison to ask a court to decide, if she so wishes. "Mariah covered her bases by writing a memoir vs. an autobiography. She also wrote in the forwards this was her viewpoint as little Mariah and how she felt going through the experiences." I am certain it is not how Mariah felt "going through the experiences" that Allison contends with, but rather that the experiences happened at all. I believe Allison will ask Mariah to prove the claims which, from what Mariah has written, doesn't sound like that will be possible. The court may require Allison to prove some sort of malice or evidence of falsehood on Mariah's part, but if it does I think the ex-brother or mother could be wheeled out. Then it becomes a total PR disaster if it already isn't one. "This is a memoir and not a lawsuit. No proof is needed to tell others your experiences." As above. I am not saying who is right and wrong and your claim that you are the authority on who is and who isn't is spurious. On the balance of probabilities, and all things being equal, I would ignore both of them. But things are not equal. Mariah has used her position of wealth and power to profit well from the claims that someone who is totally skint and downtrodden committed unlawful acts. I honestly think this book was a bit of a silly venture. But, Mariah - being quite a smart cookie - must have foreseen the fallout and calculated that she stood more to gain from the publication than she had to lose. If so then good for her and so be it. Myself, I fail to see what good this all did. Very few people were ever really listening to anything Allison was saying about Mariah, anyway. Now they'll be listening a lot. We all have our own present and historical shit. Maybe it's just me, or perhaps it's a very stereotypically British thing, but it's neither wise nor dignified to "air your dirty linen in public", so to speak. Mariah should get back to writing a killer Summer album with a properly financed marketing campaign and promo rollout. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 12:17)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,225) (97,287) by Nikki from usa Record deals in the US don't pay back advances. That's the artist's money to make the record and there's a no take back rule. Mariah made Sony a billion under Columbia, but that has nothing to do with Epic. Epic hasn't spent that much on Mariah or her promo. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 02:06)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,231) (97,286) by Nikki from usa You don't seem to understand how contracts work. As a legacy artist, Mariah would be low priority and her budget would be small. The label keeps everything Mariah would make until the budget is paid back. Hits used to mean money. They don't anymore. Nobody buys anymore. Mariah attaches her music to other projects to make money. Her tours are under contract with Live Nation who gives her a fee for touring that dwarfs her recording contract. You're also wrong about Triumphant. It was listed as a morsel for the fans after Mariah had to push back her album from signing on to do AI. It was listed as such months before release. It wasn't supposed to go to radio either. Quite the opposite happened. Everyone wanted the song. Hip hop stations demanded it, half time wanted it. Due to demand she made a music video and BET made it #1 for a month. We haven't seen a song with this kind of reaction from the public since "I'll Be There". The remixes were fire, it could've easily been a hit. In fact, if she'd release one of the remixes as the song to FIFA it probably would be. She also released GTFO while stressing from the get go that it wasn't a single and won't be released to radio. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 02:01)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,236) (97,285) by Nikki from usa I'm not sure if that's true. Mariah doesn't have anything to prove, true. Her actions don't show that she cares about the charts. She barely promos anything when she releases it. Did you see a single TV performance of A No No? A magazine over? I'm sure chart success would be nice, but I don't think Mariah's holding her breath. She had a Christmas song featuring Ariana yet nobody could even find it to stream that thing to save their life. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 01:45)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,276) (97,284) by RibbonB from USA Alison is always out for the money grab. Obviously Pat has none if her own monies. Who knows what happened to Allison's suit of the mom. That whole family is one cluster cluck of lawsuits. Shame. The finale would be if the mom sues Mimi. Crazy world, where Kobe's mother in law is suing her own daughter. Greed, plain and simple. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 01:44)

Re: Mariah separates with manager Melissa (97,250) (97,283) by Nikki from usa That's not how it works. Melissa got a good deal and far more lucrative. It makes sense for her to go. Mariah's signed with Roc Nation and Melissa was only appointed to her. Mariah is still under contract. She can't just go. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 01:34)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,277) (97,282) by Nikki from usa Prey tell, what evidence would Mariah provide? The same evidence Allison provides for ritual abuse? There is none. Mariah didn't make accusations - she described the trauma she endured and what it did to her. Actual trauma victims who contain what happened to them get a sense of relief from talking about it. It's a part of standing up for yourself and not hiding the truth. Allison had no problem attacking Mariah for 20 years making money from wild claims without proof. In fact, she's still doing it now with this lawsuit. Why shouldn't Mariah get a say? Different rules for her? Allison doesn't have a case. She's less than credible with all her issues and history. Mariah covered her bases by writing a memoir vs. an autobiography. She also wrote in the forwards this was her viewpoint as little Mariah and how she felt going through the experiences. This is a memoir and not a lawsuit. No proof is needed to tell others your experiences. (Thursday 4 February 2021; 01:23)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,279) (97,281) by LaCoya from USA And why do I have the feeling Mariah knew this would happen? (Wednesday 3 February 2021; 22:51)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,279) (97,280) by MusicfanJ from Germany I'm so tired to read about the "ex-family". I wish all the stuff would have been kept private. (Wednesday 3 February 2021; 15:45)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,274) (97,279) by Lady B from USA The biggest tell that this is a frivolous suit is that she is repping herself. If it had merit a plaintiff's attorney would take it on contingency (they are paid a percentage of winning rather than hourly). (Wednesday 3 February 2021; 09:29)

Re: She who mustn't be named (97,273) (97,278) by Musti from UK I didn't think anything could make me laugh out loud today. Thanks. (Wednesday 3 February 2021; 08:57)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,276) (97,277) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "[Alison] could've just put in a statement to the press denying the claims instead of having to try to profit out of it." Mariah profited from the book in question, a significant selling point of which was an allegation that Alison committed specific criminal acts. If somebody made such an allegation about you without providing evidence would you not seek redress? Especially if they profited from it? I don't know why Mariah wrote this book, anymore. It's a totally bizarre read. Sleeping dogs should be left to lie. (Wednesday 3 February 2021; 04:48)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,274) (97,276) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Funny how Alison is calling Mariah out for putting "unsubstantiated" claims in Mariah's memoirs when Alison has made many allegations against her family including Mariah and their mother (of abuse and cult involvements) and never gave any proof of that. Also I don't understand what she means by Mariah never gave Alison a chance to "respond to the claims". It was an autobiographical book, simply put its "Mariah's story about her life". It wasn't a documentary that required other people to put in their views or versions. She could've just put in a statement to the press denying the claims instead of having to try to profit out of it. (Wednesday 3 February 2021; 00:25)

Re: She who mustn't be named (97,273) (97,275) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Hahah you mean she's going to bury them further. I hear she claims she's working with an "A list singer-actress" for a project. I wonder who she means. (Wednesday 3 February 2021; 00:14)

Re: Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,271) (97,274) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Allison is saying everything is unsubstantiated. She doesn't need to prove the claims in the book are false. Mariah printed the allegations. I believe the onus is on her to prove that they are true. (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 22:56)

She who mustn't be named (97,273) by B from USA Did ya'll hear the news that Voldemort is plotting a comeback with a reality show about helping women after they've hit rock bottom? I can't. (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 17:46)

Re: Kelly and Ryan (97,270) (97,272) by B from USA I just assumed the other surprise was either a new album/single or Someone's Ugly Daughter with Mariah singing the lead. (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 17:22)

Mariah Carey's sister sues over tell-all memoir (97,271) by B from USA Not surprised that Allison is once again trying to use her relationship with Mariah for her financial gain. I noticed that she didn't deny the allegations in Mariah's memoir. (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 17:19)

Kelly and Ryan (97,270) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Mariah is scheduled to appear on Kelly and Ryan on 12th February. Does anyone have any idea what this is about? Is Ch Cha giving birth again? Hahah I'm kidding. Honestly though, I'm very intrigued. Is Mariah actually going to drop a surprise song/project? Is this her version of "Someone's Ugly Daughter"? When her memoirs was released her nephew teased she has 2 surprises for us. One was the Chick album, the other was never revealed. People thought it was "Skydiving". (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 14:21)

Re: Lullaby remix (97,267) (97,269) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love "Lullaby" too. Since first listen. Such a cool, dreamy song. (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 12:25)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,240) (97,268) by 123 from USA I never said it with an attitude, I said it with a fact. I've seen Eric tell people on their posts that he loathes when people do that when he takes time out of his day to update the news section. Also, I disproved your original post about Mariah not having anything to prove (not a fact when she re-signed to Epic), not using current artists when she's been doing it since 95. I easily dismantled your original post and you had nothing to comeback on so instead you focused on one thing that came from a "gossip" article without posting any evidence of otherwise. You were put in your place for being a crazy lamb coming for sweet Mimi L who loves Mariah and is a realist and isn't living on Bleak Ave with the rest of the delusional lambs that say Caution was a success or give excuses when she sounds bad live or better yet claim her voice hasn't changed. You services were never needed so you are dismissed. Now check that. (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 04:17)

Re: Lullaby remix (97,265) (97,267) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa It's one of mine too. I thought I was alone on that. (Tuesday 2 February 2021; 02:23)

Re: Melissa (97,264) (97,266) by 123 from USA I believe that Mariah's management contract is with RocNation and not Melissa exclusively so she wouldn't have been able to leave with her. It will be interesting to see who RocNation assigns to Mariah. (Monday 1 February 2021; 18:29)

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