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IBLYLT & ISIL (109,755)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I think she looked her best in that video. I used to watch it on repeat. 
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 15:28)
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IBLYLT & ISIL (109,754)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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You don't know how many times I used to play and sing along to "I'll Be Loving You Long Time" in the summer of 2008. I still do some times. It's a real pity that it wasn't promoted properly. It could have been a hit. And Mimi in the video, wow.
By the way, I've always loved "I Stay in Love" as well. In fact, a dog of mine was called "Baby, I stay in love with you" (short version: "Baby") after the song because, when he was a puppy and I would sing that little part around him, he used to come to me. So that became his name, but in the singing mode. Lol. Everybody got amazed whenever I sang his name and he would appear from wherever.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 14:24)
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IBLYLT & ISIL (109,754)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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You don't know how many times I used to play and sing along to "I'll Be Loving You Long Time" in the summer of 2008. I still do some times. It's a real pity that it wasn't promoted properly. It could have been a hit. And Mimi in the video, wow.
By the way, I've always loved "I Stay in Love" as well. In fact, a dog of mine was called "Baby, I stay in love with you" (short version: "Baby") after the song because, when he was a puppy and I would sing that little part around him, he used to come to me. So that became his name, but in the singing mode. Lol. Everybody got amazed whenever I sang his name and he would appear from wherever.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 14:24)
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One Heart One Voice (109,753)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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By "very well done" I meant well written and that it has a nice melody. I wasn't referring to the production and editing.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 14:09)
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One Heart One Voice (109,751)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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After 2 weeks without listening to this song (I've been really busy), it doesn't seem bad at all to me. In fact, I think it's a beautiful song and very well done. Overall, Mariah is the most creative one in her vocals, but the most restricted of the three. Anyhow, maybe we were a little too critical of all of it when it came out.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 11:08)
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Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,752)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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I've always loved it too. And it remains a favourite of mine out of her whole catalogue. It's catchy, fresh and has a great vibe.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 11:21)
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Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,749)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I love "Sent from up above". The song has a carefree vibe and singing style that is unique. It's the carefree and hopeful sound that is representing the youth in general. Well, a 20-year old Mariah was showing music magic with her debut. The early 90ies were so good.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 10:07)
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One Heart One Voice (109,751)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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After 2 weeks without listening to this song (I've been really busy), it doesn't seem bad at all to me. In fact, I think it's a beautiful song and very well done. Overall, Mariah is the most creative one in her vocals, but the most restricted of the three. Anyhow, maybe we were a little too critical of all of it when it came out.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 11:08)
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Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,750)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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1. Honey 2. I'll Be Loving You Long Time 3. H.A.T.E.U. 4. Heartbreaker 5. Make It Happen
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 11:01)
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Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,738)
by Jamie from UK
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1. Emotions 12" Remix 2. Now That I know 3. Sent From Up Above 4. Touch My Body 5. Dreamlover Bonus: Do You Think of Me
(Monday 14 July 2025; 22:34)
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Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,749)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I love "Sent from up above". The song has a carefree vibe and singing style that is unique. It's the carefree and hopeful sound that is representing the youth in general. Well, a 20-year old Mariah was showing music magic with her debut. The early 90ies were so good.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 10:07)
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Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,738)
by Jamie from UK
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1. Emotions 12" Remix 2. Now That I know 3. Sent From Up Above 4. Touch My Body 5. Dreamlover Bonus: Do You Think of Me
(Monday 14 July 2025; 22:34)
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Vision of Love (109,748)
by Bill from the UK
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It was probably warranted to be fair. And lol as everyone should know by now I am never wrong.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 07:27)
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Vision of Love (109,735)
by Edward from USA
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Are you reprimanding Bill? Just because he was like totally wrong. Please don't do it again.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 19:42)
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Vision of Love (109,747)
by Bill from the UK
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Not the Tommy tape. Those song titles were the tracks Mariah and Ben composed together for version 0.1 of the debut. As I said demos are made for every album of every song before it goes into proper production, and that screenshot of the tape with some song titles scribbled on it I’m not convinced is legitimate.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 07:22)
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Vision of Love (109,741)
by John from USA
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VOL was definitely part of the demo tape.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 00:10)
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Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,746)
by Bobby A from United States
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Edward, I like your new photo. When MC releases MC16, I am going to add my photo again. Anyway, MC could sell millions if she released her demo tape on vinyl just as Tommy heard it for the first time. The CD version could be packaged with The First Vision home video on DVD. I wonder if any AR executive at Sony has thought about doing it.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 04:55)
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Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,743)
by Edward from USA
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Reading about the history of the VOL, I think Bill is right. The song was the first one Mariah and Ben Margulies Margulies wrote together right after she got signed to Columbia. The demo in the video is actually what they presented to Tommy for her debut.
In his book, Hitmaker, Tommy explained that while Mariah was clearly a brilliant singer and songwriter, he knew that she and Ben didn't have the production experience to fully shape a major label debut album. He respected what they had created but felt it was too big of a project to leave solely in their hands. Tommy gave them a shot, but after months they hadn't accomplished much. So he brought in top producers like Narada Michael Walden, Ric Wake and Walter Afanasieff (at the end) to help elevate the material and production.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 02:09)
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New album (109,745)
by Giovanni from USA
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I'll never get over how "Cool on you" was scrapped off the album or how "I'll be lovin you long time" was not a hit.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 03:00)
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New album (109,703)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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The new album is supposed to be a summery sound, well July is almost over I wonder what the roll out plan is and I was thinking I really hope the new album and what we heard about it turns out to be like E=MC2. I've been playing the album and it's still so fresh and experimental. Almost every song had single potential. I was also re-listening to For the Record and indeed what a record only MC has a legacy worth referencing in her own song. I absolutely love her doing the part where she word plays her own song titles, how I wish we had a music video of the song with her recreating her famous MV scenes from the songs mentioned. Anyway I'm rambling but yes I'm hoping for an album like that. It's peak summer vibes with songs like TMB, Cruise Control, IBLULT, FTR, Migrate, ITC. Even has the cheesy Love Story and Last Kiss which I know people hate on but I love it.
(Saturday 12 July 2025; 23:55)
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Type Dangerous (109,744)
by Giovanni from USA
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It's been a long time since I posted or caught up with Mariah, but I have to say after giving "Type dangerous" a chance it has grown on me. I didn't really like it at first but I do now. When "It's like that" was released, I didn't really like it either. Her voice sounds much better and rested. I hope the new album is good and gets more success than "Caution". I love the "Caution" album. 
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 02:56)
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Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,743)
by Edward from USA
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Reading about the history of the VOL, I think Bill is right. The song was the first one Mariah and Ben Margulies Margulies wrote together right after she got signed to Columbia. The demo in the video is actually what they presented to Tommy for her debut.
In his book, Hitmaker, Tommy explained that while Mariah was clearly a brilliant singer and songwriter, he knew that she and Ben didn't have the production experience to fully shape a major label debut album. He respected what they had created but felt it was too big of a project to leave solely in their hands. Tommy gave them a shot, but after months they hadn't accomplished much. So he brought in top producers like Narada Michael Walden, Ric Wake and Walter Afanasieff (at the end) to help elevate the material and production.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 02:09)
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Had Mariah neen signed by another label (109,742)
by John from USA
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Way back in the mid-to-late 1990s, I heard another label that was supposed to sign Mariah was looking to package her as their answer to Taylor Dayne. Glad it didn't turn out that way.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 00:13)
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Vision of Love (109,741)
by John from USA
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VOL was definitely part of the demo tape.
(Tuesday 15 July 2025; 00:10)
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Vision of Love (109,732)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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Are you sure? According to several sources, Vision of Love was part of the original demo tape.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 16:31)
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Unpopular opinions (109,740)
by Lambi from USA
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Wait, that's crazy. "Someday" is very "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" type of record. I totally get why they tried to snatch that song, it's a hit. It blows my mind how people have been trying to low ball Mariah since day one.
Brenda K. Starr tried it too, laying down 5k for her songs when she was broke, hungry and vulnerable. But MC, even in that situation, was basically like "no thanks". Honestly though, I think she's always been smart like that. Like when she was 14 and did demo vocals for a sketchy local loser band from her hometown, she basically told them, "I'll sing your stuff, but you're gonna help me record my songs, and those songs are mine. You're not involved." Who thinks like that at 14? It's insane. She was even roasting their song writing, "These are so corny, how do you not know what's on rotation on the radio?" LMAO.
Mariah's always known her worth deep inside. Always. And when she says in interviews, "Music was the one thing that made me feel special and worth something", I genuinely believe it.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 23:38)
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by Bill from the UK
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You're right there was a bidding war to sign her between Warners and, as it was back then, CBS records. When the "demo tape incident" happened at the party Brenda K Starr took her to, MC was already in negotiations with WB. I've no idea what numbers each party threw in, but all Mariah ever said about it was that it was CBS allowing her to write her own songs that sealed it for her. I think they could have even offered less money and she still would have gone with them on that element alone.
Clive Davis actually tried to buy the song Someday for Whitney, it was then that Mariah realised she could indeed write a good pop song and rather than selling it (as tempting as it was for a young girl "without a penny to her name") she retained it for herself and it gave her even more determination to become an artist in her own right.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:33)
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Vision of Love (109,739)
by Bill from the UK
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So according to the official biography the demo tape (that Tommy snatched and played in his car at the party) had four songs on it. Alone In Love, All In Your Mind, Someday, and Do You Ever Wonder which remains unreleased to this day.
After signing to CBS and working on the album, the pair wrote Vision of Love and a number of other songs that formed the demo for the debut album. With any album, a number of tracks will be recorded in a demo format for the record company to vet, approve, reject, suggest amendments etc. Once the songs from the demo sessions are decided, they will then be taken forward to be worked on for the album and go through mixing, production and mastering to create the final version.
From all I know, Vision of Love was never on the original fateful demo tape presented to Tommy, but came immediately after when the ink was still drying on the contract.
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by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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Are you sure? According to several sources, Vision of Love was part of the original demo tape.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 16:31)
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Mariah's top 5 summer songs (109,738)
by Jamie from UK
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1. Emotions 12" Remix 2. Now That I know 3. Sent From Up Above 4. Touch My Body 5. Dreamlover Bonus: Do You Think of Me
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by MusicfanJ from Germany
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1. Fantasy 2. Honey 3. Always be my baby 4. Dreamlover 5. I'll be loving u long time Bonus: Cruise control
(Monday 14 July 2025; 14:47)
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by Jamie from UK
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Yes that's what I thought.
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by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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Are you sure? According to several sources, Vision of Love was part of the original demo tape.
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by jaker20 from US
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That's an interesting story. I never knew this, especially the backstory about Someday.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 22:11)
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by Bill from the UK
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You're right there was a bidding war to sign her between Warners and, as it was back then, CBS records. When the "demo tape incident" happened at the party Brenda K Starr took her to, MC was already in negotiations with WB. I've no idea what numbers each party threw in, but all Mariah ever said about it was that it was CBS allowing her to write her own songs that sealed it for her. I think they could have even offered less money and she still would have gone with them on that element alone.
Clive Davis actually tried to buy the song Someday for Whitney, it was then that Mariah realised she could indeed write a good pop song and rather than selling it (as tempting as it was for a young girl "without a penny to her name") she retained it for herself and it gave her even more determination to become an artist in her own right.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:33)
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by Edward from USA
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Are you reprimanding Bill? Just because he was like totally wrong. Please don't do it again.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 19:42)
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by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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Are you sure? According to several sources, Vision of Love was part of the original demo tape.
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by Lighty from China
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Vision of Love was on Mariah's famous demo tape.
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by Bill from the UK
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Vision of Love was written after she signed to CBS in celebration of that momentous event. It was a thank you to the good Lord above for getting her to that place. So it didn't exist at the point Clive was sniffing around.
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by Lighty from China
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I was talking about her album rollouts in the US, not China. It's a very different music market here and for western artists they don't have big marketing campaigns or whatsoever, just maybe banners in streaming apps.
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by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
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@Lighty. I agree with you because for the past decade, everything Mariah's touched just turned to gold - except new music. It wouldn't be so frustrating if 'Caution' wasn't such an amazing body of work. It's rivaling Butterfly as the album I play from start to finish. Her pen was on fire and I don't know what she's talking about when she complains about her vocal performances in studio or live for that era.
Also, not to nag about you always being from China, but like how did you notice her album rollouts not being as Stellar as they could be? How was she promoted over there - before and after Memoirs? @Bobby A's comment: I'm right there with you on the rollout frustrations - something feels disjointed. But I keep reminding myself that Mariah is Gamma's first true mega‑star test case. She owns her masters and publishing, so unlike a traditional label deal, Gamma has to build - and learn- in real time. That "first‑adapter" growing‑pains phase was always going to be messy. Because of that, the usual promo playbook (predictable collabs, the same talk shows, servicing the same U.S. radio formats) just won't cut it. She needs to lean into moments that only an icon of her stature gets:
• Every stage is a launchpad. When she's at Sandringham for King Charles, or any festival slot, the set list should highlight the new era - fresh single, inventive remix medleys - so casual viewers instantly link that performance to MC16.
• Serve the hungry markets. Regions that still shout for her (Asia, SA, parts of Europe) can't be bypassed. These last four type dangerous remixes were a good idea but should have come out earlier and Team Mariah needs to reach out to more International artists/DJs for future collabs and time the releases so they can actually boost the project when it's hot.
• Treat the show as content. Mariah's humor and behind‑the‑scenes banter are social‑media gold. Build quick IG/TikTok bits into the set changes instead of the usual glam‑touch‑up lull (that she doesn't even need). Fans leave with a memory and a shareable clip.
Bottom line: the catalog sells itself on streaming. Live appearances should be MC16‑first, everything else second. Gamma will fumble a bit, but if Mariah uses every mic and camera to push the new music, the campaign can still hit the highs we all know she's capable of. End rant.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 15:14)
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by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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Are you sure? According to several sources, Vision of Love was part of the original demo tape.
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by Bill from the UK
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Vision of Love was written after she signed to CBS in celebration of that momentous event. It was a thank you to the good Lord above for getting her to that place. So it didn't exist at the point Clive was sniffing around.
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by Bill from the UK
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Vision of Love was written after she signed to CBS in celebration of that momentous event. It was a thank you to the good Lord above for getting her to that place. So it didn't exist at the point Clive was sniffing around.
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by TJ from Norway
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I thought it was VOL they wanted for Whitney.
(Monday 14 July 2025; 08:08)
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