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Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,028) (97,037) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "There is a conscious effort by the music industry to make sure Mariah does not tie that Beatles record for 20 Hot 100 #1 singles". Interesting. Please cite your evidence/sources. Should you not be able to, the reasonable few on here shall be forced to conclude it's just more lambsh*t. "If she isn't having a non-Christmas hit song it is mainly as a result of this, or she isn't looking to." So either Mariah is being prevented from having a hit (please cite your evidence, as above) or Mariah wants her song releases to fail. The latter being obvious nonsense, shall we also conclude that you are avoiding the obvious, in that it is pretty clear why Mariah doesn't chart well with her new music: it's not worthy of charting well. "Secondly out of all her peers Madonna, Celine, Mary J. Blige, I would take where Mariah is any day in terms of where their careers are currently. What she lacks in touring, ticket sales..." She makes up for with a song that's dusted off every December. Are you under the impression that Mariah doesn't want to be able to sell out global tours? Who is it you think you are fooling here? "She isn't exerting herself going on tour after tour yet smiling to the bank yearly." Ah, okay. You think Mariah does everything for money. Funny that, because isn't the common thread on this board that Mariah only does things for love, now? This nonsense will never end. (Saturday 26 December 2020; 21:35)

Merry Christmas (97,036) by Bobby A from United States I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas. I pray your Christmas day is filled with love and blessings. I miss having Billy on here. The rest of the MC 30 vinyls like E=MC2, Charmbraclet, Memoirs, and MIAM will be shipped after January 22nd. I was on the Sound of Vinyl website early this morning and they listed a January 22nd availability date. I still haven't received my Merry Christmas II You vinyl that was scheduled to shipped in December. I hope that it arrives in January. Andrew, did you intercept my delivery and have it shipped to the UK? I am just wondering since you are in old Anthony's head now. Lol. Merry Christmas to you too. (Friday 25 December 2020; 13:33)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,029) (97,035) by Edward from USA I couldn't agree with you more. Making an album for Mariah will cost her more than the profit she'll make from it. She'll do it because of her love of music and probably to go on tour, but she won't be making real money. I think we'll be seeing more 10-track albums, but not as frequent. As for this fan-paranoia thinking everybody is trying to block Mariah from breaking or tying The Beatles, of course The Beatles' fans wouldn't want her to, but then again we didn't want anybody to break her OSD record either. Mariah is not popular like that anymore, basically nobody is buying her music so she has less of a chance to accomplish that unless she comes with some great music and a hot collabo to back her up. It is as simple as that. If there were a force behind trying to stop her, AIWFCITY wouldn't have made it to #1 for three weeks after 24 years and then keep going strong again this year. Great music is great music, but since radio plays what's hot and young at the moment, Mariah not only needs great music but also a helping hand. I do strongly believe Mariah will have a proper duet with Ariana, and they'll go to #1. The music industry as it was doesn't exist anymore and they don't have the same control they used to, not even radio. So, everything is in the hand of the general public streaming what's popular and who's hot at the moment. She's so close though, I can even salivate it. (Friday 25 December 2020; 02:05)

Re: MC / Merry Christmas (97,030) (97,034) by MusicfanJ from Germany Merry Christmas Jono and to all of you. It's a special Christmas this year. I hope we can all enjoy the holidays and find a little peace. Stay save. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 21:47)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,028) (97,033) by Mò from South Africa Terna, I could not agree with you more. I have made a similar observation. They will do whatever necessary to ensure "she" does not tie that record. Even non Mariah fans will tell you the same observation. Unfortunately she has never allowed herself to be a puppet of the music industry executives (influencers and gate keepers etc) and her chart success annoys the hell out of them. This is not rocket science. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 20:22)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,026) (97,032) by Chicago Lamb from USA Yesssss, Geri551 from UK. You hit it right out of the park, spot on! (Thursday 24 December 2020; 19:37)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,026) (97,031) by Jono from USA I completely agree with your assessment. Folks forget that there is a subconscious bias against older women in the music industry. Her remaining peers, Madonna/Janet/Celine all do not release hit songs anymore. And there is nothing wrong with that, they all have nothing left to prove. In 5-10 years, these current pop girls will be competing with the next generation that's replacing them. I don't pay attention to Mariah's chart success anymore (except for AIWFCIY because quite frankly, it's the gift that keeps on giving every year lol) because really, what's at the top of the charts today is not the kind of quality music Mariah makes. Yes she and her team can flaunt her 19 No.1s as she's earned them, but I care more about Mariah the artist as opposed to Mariah the business. Her last studio album Caution was fantastic. I will take great quality work over chart positions any time, because decades from now people will only remember the music, not whether it reached #1 on the charts. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 18:40)

MC / Merry Christmas (97,030) by Jono from USA Hello all. Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and if you don't celebrate it, Happy Mariah Carey Day. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 18:33)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,026) (97,029) by Nikki from usa Just need to add 2 things. Nobody's making any money in this climate and to be perfectly frank, artists rarely made money when it was hot. They've always made money from touring. Labels treat everything like a loan that needs to be paid back. Until it is artists don't see a cent of their money. Labels spend millions promoting artists, but nobody is selling millions anymore. Which brings me to: Mariah isn't losing money creating albums. She gets her advance and the label eats the costs. They attach the cost to whatever she makes and keeps it. Now, artists and labels make money from ads on music videos. The label spends little on Mariah because she's a legacy artist, but they do eventually make their money back on music video ads. Artists today primarily make their money through endorsements and advertising. Mariah made $9 million last year for that UK crisp commercial. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 18:28)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,026) (97,028) by Terna from Nigeria I don't agree at all with your theory. There is a conscious effort by the music industry to make sure Mariah does not tie that Beatles record for 20 Hot 100 #1 singles, talk less of breaking it but we all know for sure she's gonna do just that. If she isn't having a non-Christmas hit song it is mainly as a result of this, or she isn't looking to. Secondly out of all her peers Madonna, Celine, Mary J. Blige, I would take where Mariah is any day in terms of where their careers are currently. What she lacks in touring, ticket sales and those deceptive bundles to sell new albums, she more than makes up for from having 19 number one singles, a massive body of work that keeps on giving and owning her own masters then there's "All I Want For Christmas is you" - she isn't exerting herself going on tour after tour yet smiling to the bank yearly. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 16:48)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,019) (97,027) by Terna from Nigeria Oh wow, you got an exclamation mark in your message! (Thursday 24 December 2020; 16:36)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,018) (97,026) by Geri551 from UK You all need to get prepared to be very disappointed for a very long time because things are going to continue as they are. Making non-Christmas music costs Mariah money. I am sure she will always release non-Christmas material as her artistry is important to her but people need a major dose of reality about Mariah's position in the music industry in 2021. Mariah is a legacy artist 30 years into her career. There is no shame in this, some of you acting like she should be competing with Taylor and Ariana are just absurd, it is like saying Diana Ross should have been competing with Mariah in 1994. Album sales are now non-existent, in the 90s you had the likes of Patti Labelle, Aretha and Chaka Khan getting gold selling albums for an album that didn't even hit the top 50 of the BB200 - now artists are hitting number 1 and not getting sales of 500,000. To complicate matters further, artists of Mariah's longevity are not getting streams. Mariah can't make money from making non-Christmas records. The production of the record, music videos and promotion almost certainly actually costs her money. Hard fact. Lets not pretend Mariah's contemporaries Madonna or Janet or Celine are somehow doing better, for a new album they get one high chart position on the BB200 for opening week by adding a copy of their new album to each ticket sale. The album drops like a rock and they barely get any streaming or radio play. They are greatest hits artists, who stay relevant (and make a lot of money) by touring. That's reality. At this stage Mariah has two options, becoming a greatest hits touring artist (she already is to some extent) or embrace the Christmas queen moniker. With the latter for one month a year it is like it is 1995 again. Janet, Madonna, Celine etc simply cannot compete with that. I suspect her approach will be a combination of the two. She can never compete with Celine (or Madonna) when it comes to ticket sales but the eternal success of Christmas has given her unparalleled platform and will be her ultimate legacy. If people can't get on board with that idea, get ready to become very disenchanted every year! (Thursday 24 December 2020; 14:17)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) (97,025) by Aliya from Canada Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite (Thursday 24 December 2020; 06:53)

TEOM vinyl (97,024) by Bobby A from United States I received my TEOM vinyl today. I received the Gold edition that was only exclusive to Urban Outfitters. Did anybody else receive the Gold edition in place of standard black vinyl that you ordered on MC's website? Actually it is a Silver vinyl edition listed on MC's website. I received the Gold edition. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 18:33)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,020) (97,023) by The Real Deal from USA My Life - Mary J. Blige (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 18:25)

Re: The Rarities special edition 4 LP's (97,016) (97,022) by Bobby A from United States My order came today. But I didn't get the vinyl mat edition that sellers are listing eBay. Does anybody know why? (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 17:13)

Merry Christmas and MC II You (97,021) by Anonymous from USA It's wonderful to see Mariah's Christmas albums do so well on the charts. Aside from AIWFCIY being a huge success, the albums seem to do better each year. I have every Christmas song she's released to date and it's just magical, a perfect pairing. I love her version of Sleigh Ride right now. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 14:48)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,019) (97,020) by Anonymous from USA I did ask for one album. I picked one that I love every song, from start to finish. I guess it's harder to do for some. Just like I can't pick a favorite Mariah album, it depends on my mood. Memoirs was the most "cohesive " and one of my favorites, but I can't pick just one. Charmbracelet, Butterfly, Daydream, Glitter, E=MC2, it's hard to pick just one. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 14:42)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,017) (97,019) by Lady B from USA I thought you wanted one album, which is hard to answer (and interesting to do so). Listing 5+ or 10+ is easy. Pick one! (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 07:04)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show (97,015) Thank You, Next (97,018) by enwar00 from usa I think some fans don't even care to hear the same ole same ole repeated ramblings. I've been over the memoir peddling and the queen of Christmas shtick this season. I loved Caution and the whole vibe of its rollout, the interviews, the tour, even with Christmas falling in between. Thoroughly enjoyed the 25th anniversary of Merry Christmas, the reissue and AIWFCIY hitting the top spot, what a total celebratory moment. I'm hoping there will continue to be more non-Christmas music in the near and further future. I couldn't care less about a biopic. Of course I'll watch, and hopefully if won't be as cheesy as the Christmas special. Thing is I'd rather hear an album from an artist I love than buy their skin care line. Unless this is just about the money now. Ok so I'll have to listen to the Christmas albums the next couple days to counterbalance this post. On a positive MC30 has been cool, so I still have hope. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 01:50)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) (97,017) by Terna from Nigeria Too Many to mention, though notable ones include: Boyz II Men - Evolution Joe - My Name is Joe Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill Toni Braxton - Secrets Brandy - Never say never, Full Moon, Human Aaliyah - One in a Million, Aaliyah (I miss her) Monica - The Boy is Mine Alicia keys - Songs in A Minor Angie Stone - Stone Love, Mahogany Soul Whitney Houston - My Love is Your Love Chris Brown - F.A.M.E Beyonce - 4, Lemonade (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 23:16)

Re: The Rarities special edition 4 LP's (97,000) (97,016) by TJ from Norway I believe it's a new version on its way to the stores (not the one who was released in October). Am I wrong? (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 20:08)

Ryan and Kelly show (97,015) by RibbonB from USA I saw Mimi on their show today. This was a rambling interview, where she tried to get in all the same talking points, but they sounded rushed and forced. She didn't answer in short clear points. it got to be difficult for non fans to know what she's talking about, or to care. But anyway, it was nice to see Cha Cha. (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 18:40)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) (97,014) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope & All For You Toni Braxton - Secrets, The Heat & Libra Brandy - Brandy, Never Say Never, Full Moon & Afrodisiac Whitney Houston - I'm Your Baby Tonight & My Love Is Your Love Anita Baker - Rapture SZA - Ctrl Ella Mai - Ella Mai John Legend - Once Again, Evolver King - We Are King Mary J. Blige - My Life, Share My World & The Breakthrough Alicia Keys - The Diary Of Alicia Keys Kali Uchis - Isolation Estelle - Shine (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 17:55)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,012) (97,013) by MusicfanJ from Germany Alicia Keys "The diary of Alicia Keys" Brian McKnight "Anytime" Babyface "Greatest hits" John Legend "Once again" I guess it's more Nu Soul than RnB Lauryn Hill "The miseducation of Lauryn Hill" Leon Bridges "Good thing" another Nu Soul gemacht Neyo "Year of the gentleman" is also a favourite (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 13:07)

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