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Re: I am stunned (95,869) (95,877) by Andrew from the United Kingdom William, I am really pleased you liked it. I was worried, listening to it, that you would not. It isn't the song direction many and you had hoped for. But it is rather wonderful how it is done. Gonna need the notes on print to audible differences. I'd actually like the spreadsheet and any other PDF'd spreadsheet you have made. andrewjamesgold@gmail.com If not, not to worry. I am glad you got from it what you needed. (Thursday 1 October 2020; 01:07)

Re: Roger Friedman (95,867) (95,876) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Yours is perhaps the most important message here. Thie is not intended to be an autobio with receipts as some numpty just inferred here. It is a memoir. It is a story about a development of a person that Mariah wants to tell about her life. It is Mariah's perspective on her story. I have finished Sing Sing. I get why people are dissatisfied. I get it. I wince often. This is not self-reflection for Mariah to heal herself. This isn't Mariah trying to figure out her own mistakes. This is Mariah saying "This is how I felt, people behaved this way, and I was the one that wrote very valuable pieces of music and it was me people worshipped and thanked." Knowing me, after all I have posted in 7 years, you think I might have a problem with that. But I don't. They sold her out, dutifully. Her family sold her out. Fellow women, like Lopez, sold her out. I do not begrudge Mariah the book she has written. I wish her response to Oprah had been: "Because [censored] them. That's why." And, Eric, if you made that word "smurf", you are doing injustice to fair intent of comment. I have asterixed it but if you must alter please just put "[censored]". We are all adults here. Except for we_are_lambily. But she is way past lights-out. I have no doubt that people whom I believe have crossed and cheated me believe or make pretence that I have done wrong (and I am owed, myself, awe and respect and much money from people whom I consider lucky to have known me). So be it. My view of my interactions here don't seem to match with the opinions held herein, either. But a nice man named Martyn Hakan Hett once defended me from a spurious attack here in his inimitable way of... being intelligent emotionally: "This is his truth," he wrote, if I recall correctly. And the maturity of that open-natured heart stuck with me and I honestly try to remember it when, what I perceive to be untruths, which I find vulgar, confront me. Is it just perception? The Meaning of Mariah Carey is Mariah from Mariah's perspective. It is not an autobiography. It is a story about one person's passion. And I love it. There are many things I do not like about what I am hearing. Trust, lambs and fans, I could go hard on this. But it is Mariah's truth. Even if her truth with hindsight is not completely accurate, my own truth about myself would not be. But you cross examine a witness to hear a lived experience. Mariah wanted to emphasise *her* drive through turmoil, *her* work to get a record deal, *her* bravery against psychological bullying, *her* making hiphop mainstream due to her childhood, *her* justification in shunning people who she believed toxic. I like this. I like that Mariah is justifying why we owe her awe. I do have issues with it. Maybe later, after The Rarities, I'll think of the glaring annoyances to record them here. (I should say as I write this the All That Glitters section is playing and I have serious issues already.) But, honestly, right now, I am with Mariah and thrilled with her telling me her story. I can't help telling Alexa or Spotify to play songs when she sings. I am so thrown to my childhood. I was singing Beautiful Ones out loud at 2am. (Sorry, Randy lol.) This is absolutely wonderful. I feel 14 again, consumed in awe. Awe for this spectacularly talented woman to whom I owe my life. I genuinely do. It is hard hearing how Mariah was sad when she made me happy. Proctors Theatre was the sound I heard from the kitchen and left my mother mid-sentence to walk to the living room and stare at the TV and ask my brothers who this person was only to have both brothers themselves offer they couldn't believe it either. "This woman loves her music," said my eldest brother, Jonathan, during the AYNAF adlibs. Never forget it. It was he who lifted me up and held me the first time we saw Mariah sing Hero together. I ruined that stolen VHS as I played it every day, always AYNAF before school. My brothers and I adored it. When Fantasy: MSG came out, I felt like I was cheating on Proctors Theatre. I would watch it after MSG out of guilt. (I would fake sickness to my mother and skip school to watch both VHS tapes - and once for Around The World: but I hated it.) Why am I banging on like this is my own memoir? Because I hate Mariah for bookending the Proctor's Theatre concert with negativity. I hate her for it. That was an angel appearing to me. We were in awe. My life was saved. I honestly would not have lived without Mariah and Hero, of course. I believed, when I was kid, that she was sent to make me live. But I slept last night on Mariah's retelling of the Schnectady thabsgiving special. I know it off by heart. I know where she moves and when. I know the fake reshoot sections. I can do all hand and leg movements with my back to the screen (I showed my partner in 2003 and was met with "Oh my..."). This was my childhood. But I woke up to realise and decide that my own truth, as Martyn called it, does not detract from Mariah's truth; and I am honoured to finally know the truth behind that concert. Mariah is flawed but not stupid. She knows that concert is pinacle in opening her artistry to new people. And she changed how we view it forever. If Mariah needs me to know that she was desperately sad during it, I need to understand that my truth is not the right one. And appreciate that truths, even if from a bias perspective, are important. I am watching Proctor's Theatre now rather than listen to All That Glitters, because I get to look into Mariah's eyes now and hear her thoughts. I get to appreciate that my brothers and my adoration of beautiful music, tone and physicality came at a price for the person who instilled it in us. My brothers eventually took me to a Mariah Carey concert in London in 2001 (my father even driving us and being shamed when I pointed out he was singing along to Hero in the car - poor man, although I gave him Star Trek). We all went together 7 to 8 years after they stole that VHS and we fell in love with her. We didn't much like the Rainbow Tour. It wasn't good. But I hope Mariah went back to The Dorchester happy after it. And I hope she knew she was loved. And I cried when she appeared, my macho brothers and I danced like fools, and I cried once more at the end in total thanks for her being my saviour and companion in lonely times, and for the song that was the original mainstream "It Gets Better" message. I was picked up by a brother to hear that message, by a brother who understood why she was owed awe. This is an awe certain reviewers would do well to consider first before taking cheap shots out of perceived historical offence. I hope Mariah, for all of her faults, is [censored] happy. Cheers for 2020. (Thursday 1 October 2020; 00:52)

Is there an award for audiobooks? (95,875) by bliss! from Brazil I started listening to the audiobook this morning. This is my first experience with books in this format and I'm loving it so far, I just can't get enough of her super soothing talking voice. I hope Mariah gets an awards for this. My favorite moment so far is when Mariah discusses Henry, one of her mother's "better" boyfriends, the one with PTSD. The part where she says that she heard from somone that he screamed "She made it. She made it" the first time he heard "Vision of love" on the radio made me cry a bit. "I hope you also made it, Henry." What a beautiful soul Mariah can be. (Thursday 1 October 2020; 00:47)

Re: I am stunned (95,869) (95,874) by Bobby A from United States Well said, Bill. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 23:18)

I am stunned (95,872) (95,873) by ADAM from USA I encourage everyone to subscribe to Audible for the free trial and listen to the memoir. I own the book for the nostalgia but hearing her voice tell her story and hearing her laughter and singing between the chapters is amazing. She sings acapella and many songs. The free trial makes this treat amazing. Mariah really invested alot of time and made this personal for her fans. Do it now. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 23:00)

Re: I am stunned (95,869) (95,872) by Timothy from USA Wow Bill. Of all of the different fan reviews, this one makes me more excited to read/listen as it now seems like we will learn some new things vs. the controlled P.R. image of things some of us feared. Thanks for this. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 22:10)

Re: Wayward Child (95,860) (95,871) by Timothy from USA Well said, Andrew. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 22:07)

Re: Roger Friedman (95,868) (95,870) by RibbonB from USA He's sold his story to the tabloids many times over. Her life is not his life and he has no ownership of her life or her story. I'm glad she took his ATM card. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 19:57)

I am stunned (95,869) by Bill from the UK I binged the memoir in one day. Mariah in my ear narrating and singing, whilst I read the eBook. The hard copy is sitting on my bookshelf where it shall remain in pristine condition until the end of time. I have no actual words for how much her story has moved me. I thought I knew her, I thought I knew her troubles and everything else. Thinking of her she has literally "smiled through a thousand years" as she gracefully did interviews and performances that I have both loved and critiqued, not knowing what was going on behind those closed doors all along. I laughed, I cried, and I sobbed. I sobbed my heart out reading about her father, and her children, and the life she is trying to let them have. Mariah has given us so much, and her life has been one of constant pain, yet all she has ever done for me, is bring constant happiness. I just don't know what to do. I have never been so moved and felt so honoured to be one of her fans. I will never, ever turn away from her. She has my heart forever. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 19:46)

Re: Roger Friedman (95,867) (95,868) by TMG from USA Hurt people hurt people, and they both experienced that tough journey as a family. Morgan has more truth and facts that are not told in this memoir about the experiences written in this memoir. They shared the same dream when they were both broke and Morgan paid for the producers to develop and produce that demo Tommy decided was the "deal maker" and gave her a deal. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 16:57)

Re: Roger Friedman (95,867) by Cat from USA It's a memoir, not an autobiography. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 16:20)

The Latin Elvis (95,866) by Norman from USA I didn't see the Crybaby connection with Luis Miguel coming, but I'm glad to hear a snippet of their relationship talked about. They're my favorite male and female vocalists. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 10:56)

Re: Wayward Child (95,860) (95,865) by Bobby A from United States Can we Zoom this Friday and read the last five chapters together and listen to TR? (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 04:44)

Re: Audiobook (95,854) (95,864) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I'm so glad I got the audiobook. She is doing a fantastic job telling the story and singing here and there. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 03:27)

Article: What is the meaning of Mariah Carey? (95,863) by TMG from USA A responsible author of a memoir provides facts of their life and journey instead of a crafted version. Were the painful facts represented accurately by every member of this "dysfunctional family" or just by the famous one in control of the media version of this family? (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 03:08)

Re: Wayward Child (95,860) (95,862) by Mutton Dressed as Lamb from UK I couldn't have written it better. Your words sum up how I felt reading Wayward Child and how I feel about the memoir. I have often taken your words as harsh or too critical, but reading the memoir has made me re-evaluate my thought process. You are a true lamb. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 01:10)

Re: Roger Friedman (95,858) (95,861) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I have not heard the rest of the book but I have read this article. And laughed out loud. I am a Mariah Carey fan and, also, quite possibly, one of the most critical. So if this obnoxious tit Roger is reading this: Roger, I challenge you to a public debate about Mariah, big boy. You vs me. I am that equipped with knowledge and have passion free from prejudice I will do it with 5 minutes adamvance warning. You can quote anything I have ever posted and I, you. And I would still wipe floor with you, you smurfing tit. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 00:11)

Wayward Child (95,860) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I stayed up until 6am but gave up. The audiobook arrived at 7am. I have finished Wayward Child. What a brilliantly performed audiobook, thus far. Mariah does really well. The singing moved me. The Art Of Letting Go being sung in relation to Patricia threw me. I felt blindsided. i am a bit ashamed to admit I cried very shortly into the audiobook. I felt humble. I felt like I was a voyeur and Mariah should not have had to reveal these personal things. I felt it unfair she has had to explain the source of her pain. I felt sad that the young girl I adored in my emotionally unsettled youth was explaining her own emotionally unsettled youth. I just wanted to hug her and thank her for giving me what her musical idols had given her. Maybe I haven't said thankyou enough. Mariah Carey saved my life when I was a kid. It was not the case that somebody else would have filled the role had she not been there. It was her and her alone. i feel humble. (Wednesday 30 September 2020; 00:03)

Re: Why is she still talking about JLo? (95,857) (95,859) by mimi from Nederland I am not a fan of JLo, but I can appreciate her hits. I do not understand why the artist is blamed for what her management, the people above her, decided to use for her music. JLo isn't a songwriter nor producer, so it were people deciding for her to "steal". Btw: most of the time, she paid for the samples (Ashanti for example). (Tuesday 29 September 2020; 21:56)

Roger Friedman (95,858) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Roger is holding a grudge against MC because she fired his good friend Cindi as her publicist, and she is Tommy’s publicist now. Also when they saw each other at an event during the nightmare era they talked briefly but MC, did not give him her new contact information and it has held a grudge ever since. Honestly Roger needs to move on, and find a hobby and leave MC alone because she has definitely left him, and his friends alone for quite sometime now. (Tuesday 29 September 2020; 18:11)

Re: Why is she still talking about JLo? (95,831) (95,857) by TMG from USA Ouch. (Tuesday 29 September 2020; 16:39)

Re: Showbizz 411 / Roger Friedman (95,853) (95,856) by Weston from United States This "review" literally made me sick to my stomach. He just needs to GTFO. (Tuesday 29 September 2020; 16:12)

Re: Showbizz 411 / Roger Friedman (95,853) (95,855) by RibbonB from USA Lol, but he "read her for filth" didn't he? (Tuesday 29 September 2020; 16:00)

Audiobook (95,854) by Edward from USA I pre-ordered the ebook and the audio-book, but the e-book became available first at midnight. I read for an hour and eventually went to sleep. The audio-book was already available when I woke up. I got ready for work and on my way out started listening from the beginning. Oh wow. Mariah sounds as if she were telling you a story rather than reading a book, with singing, laughs, and all the different emotions in her voice asshe goes through it. You have to listen to her tell you about her times with her father, hilarious. I'll keep on listening later today. (Tuesday 29 September 2020; 15:56)

Showbizz 411 / Roger Friedman (95,853) by Billy from Greece I have really started to feel bad for this guy, having to write one sh*t "article" or "review" about Mariah after another. He must be a really miserable human being. Poor little Roger. (Tuesday 29 September 2020; 15:33)

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