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Stop the nonsense (110,286) by Lambi from USA This is a fan space. People are going to speculate, critique, connect with other lambs, share their opinions, debate their ideas and have fun. That's kind of the point of a message board. (Saturday 2 August 2025; 00:56) this is a reply to message 110,264

Stop the nonsense (110,264) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway No, Mariah will never quit the diva act, no, the Karadashians have not made her unsure about her age, no, a different roll out would not have made the last two single successful, no, I said a no no, like it Frenche, no, in Spanish, no. People here on this board are completely bashing Mariah and make up outrageous reasons for what no. You are criticizing Mariah while you are all living in a Mariah fan forum creating a whole universe of excuses of why her voice is lost, her eyes are dead, who should have collaborated, how Mariah should have taken care of her voice, what affect people surrounding Mariah has, the list can go on and on. Just imagine being Mariah living in this celebrity world and what micro cosmos that will lead to. But here we are, bashing Mariah for being out of touch, too into herself and her yes people, but we are still making a universe ourselves that really doesn't exist outside the MCArchives? Hello? If this board can get so delusional, imagine being Mariah the last 35 years. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:15)

That time Mariah extended Whitney a sister diva helping hand (110,285) by John from USA A little change of pace from the goings on in this site these past few days. In 2008, Whitney Houston went to perform for the president of Kazakhstan. Apparently, because of her vocal condition and her reputation in the industry at the time as an unreliable performer, she was unable to secure background singers for the gig. Her management company was also unable to obtain insurance for potential background singers for the gig. When Mariah Carey heard about this, she immediately bring it into action and offered to send three of her very best female background up singers to help Whitney. Whitney did not even have to ask. Mariah not only sent the ladies an across the world to help Whitney but she foot the bill for their insurance, travel, stay and rate. She sent Melanie, Maryanne and Teka. And y'all know vocalist don't play about sharing their background singers, haha. I couldn't find the YouTube video that originally mentioned this, but here's the link of part of that Kazakhstan concert. (Friday 1 August 2025; 23:04)

Londen (110,284) by Hanno van Leeuwen from The Netherlands I saw some video's outside her Londen hotel on Instagram and again, she looks extremely off. No interaction with the lambs at all, she's taken again by the hand, like she can't walk alone, only smiling, signing some album covers, no speaking at all, to me it looked very weird. Very curious about her show tomorrow. Hoping for the best. (Friday 1 August 2025; 17:44)

New video (110,283) by Haiji from United States So I was wrong when I said that the official mv for Sugar Sweet would drop today. It's actually just an official lyric video. Ugghh. (Friday 1 August 2025; 17:21)

Jennifer Lopez (110,282) by Dove from United States I see so many articles putting Mariah Carey and Jennifer Lopez in the same sentence. Just because they're both fire signs and are about the same age and both have twins and have rappers in their songs. They're completely different types of entertainers. I doubt MC cares so I think they do it to troll fans. It works because I get annoyed every time I see it. It's like comparing a diamond to cubic zirconia. And I know Mariah's voice is not the same right now, like it was, but the quality of what she already gifted the world is top tier. No one even comes close. I don't like when people try to make it seem like it is. Even if Sugar Sweet is shallow, The Wind still exists. (Friday 1 August 2025; 15:04)

Personal (110,281) by Dove from United States Mariah should go on that show with Heidi Klum and Tim Gunn to find a personal fashion designer to make clothes for her. Like Jackie Kennedy had. (Friday 1 August 2025; 14:50)

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,280) by Will from England For the sounds of it, she actually is referring to new songs on the album from those sound bites in interviews, but just isn't letting us on. In the Harpers Bazar, she confirmed there is a song that starts with "I don't acknowledge time" or something like that, and then there's another billboard which refers to who her favourite person is, but it's spelled "MI". (Friday 1 August 2025; 14:49) this is a reply to message 110,275

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,275) by BFF from United States I agree Bobby A. I wish she would focus more on the songs from the album and what inspired them rather than the "I don't acknowledge time" or "my favorite diva is me" nonsense. I know she's making a joke, but it's commanding too much time in interviews where she should be discussing the writing and recording process. Remember when she delved so deeply into the writing and recording processes in interviews to promote "Butterfly" and "Rainbow"? I would love to see that from her again. She needs to front-load her artistry. Otherwise, people will continue to focus on the "diva" attitude, her messy personal life, etc. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 23:49)

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,279) by Dove from United States The Macarena moves. You made me chuckle. (Friday 1 August 2025; 13:49) this is a reply to message 110,257

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,257) by TJ from Norway Was that the video? With the Macarena moves? I hoped that was something she just made for fun (and filmed by her kids). (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:10)

Stop the nonsense (110,278) by Dove from United States They're missing out. (Friday 1 August 2025; 13:47) this is a reply to message 110,266

Stop the nonsense (110,266) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I don't know if anyone outside this forum know we exist, really. And what percentage of the world are we? Some medieval small village I tell you. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:39)

The making of Mariah Carey (110,277) by jaker20 from US Wow, possibly one of Mariah's best looks, like ever. She's done suit inspired looks before, but not like this. (Friday 1 August 2025; 05:20)

Molly Meldrum interviews (110,276) by Haiji from United States I wish for an interview like this one for the release of HFIA. Molly always knew his stuff and always gave her room to speak and answer his great questions. I love that she broke down almost every aspect of the Butterfly album and videos. I believe he first interviewed her in 1992 for the Emotions promo. (Friday 1 August 2025; 02:52)

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,275) by BFF from United States I agree Bobby A. I wish she would focus more on the songs from the album and what inspired them rather than the "I don't acknowledge time" or "my favorite diva is me" nonsense. I know she's making a joke, but it's commanding too much time in interviews where she should be discussing the writing and recording process. Remember when she delved so deeply into the writing and recording processes in interviews to promote "Butterfly" and "Rainbow"? I would love to see that from her again. She needs to front-load her artistry. Otherwise, people will continue to focus on the "diva" attitude, her messy personal life, etc. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 23:49) this is a reply to message 110,261

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,261) by Bobby A from United States I noticed that as well. She looks a lot heavier in person. If you compare the Sugar Sweet video clip to the London photos from yesterday, you can tell the Sugar Sweet video clip is heavily edited. Why can't MC stop the diva antics and her desire to stay young? I think The Kardashians have had a negative influence on MC trying to stay young looking in the public's eye. People are not amused with her diva antics especially pop radio program diectors. These diva antics have negatively influenced the public's perception of her. Also, it is not helping that she can't sing like she used to. I have always wondered why the public loves Sza's music despite of her heavily autotuned vocals. I think it is because her lyrics are relatable and she doesn't act like a diva. This is what MC is missing in the public's eye. I believe MC acts like a diva because she is desperately trying to conceal the effects of being bipolar and the lost of her once beautiful voice. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:30)

Sugar Sweet (110,274) by Bobby A from United States In my JD voice - y'all know who this is. Sugar Sweet is in trouble. I don't think the video is coming out tonight. Maybe I am wrong and MC will drop it without an announcement today. Radio airplay is non-existent. It is ranking really low on the iTunes chart. Type Dangerous was last played on my favorite hometown Memphis Urban AC radio station V101 at 3:47am this morning. V103 in Atlanta won't even play TD. Here For It All needs a ILT/WBT/SIO sequence moment to save it. I am not trying to be negative Nancy today, but I am really concerned about the impact HFIA will make on 09.26 without a hit single on the Hot 100. A hit single is important for a healthy sales impact that MC needs for HFIA during the first week of sales. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 23:40)

Stop the nonsense (110,273) by Dave from USA While at times, I agree that it does seem like the board can pile it on concerning Mariah, that's what the board is for to an extent. I don't feel like this is one of those times. There is a distinct different between the young girl in the (First Vision) VHS tape, singing her behind off to the heavens effortlessly and describing how she is so thrilled to see her song on Billboard at number 53, excited that it's even there versus who is standing there now, miming a song (badly), showing little to no effort/energy during the performance, and thinking the image is enough to offset whatever loss occurred with her amazing vocal gift. I don't think people would have any issue with the diva persona (if) she still had the vocal chops. As a fan, I'm torn between wanting her to continue to create music but not insulting my intelligence when it comes to not being able to even put on a decent baseline performance. There was a time when I was excited to see Mariah perform because I had no doubt she would knock it out of the park. Effortlessly. Now, sometimes I'm overly nervous to watch in real time for fear her miming is obvious or that her voice can't maneuver around the simplest of notes. I often read here first before I even watch it to see what I may encounter. Trust me, I get it. Back in 99/2000 I was looked at as one of the bad guys for pointing some things out about MC. I was mainly worried about the image more than the voice back then, and it took me years to admit that something has happened to her vocal gift. Literally years for me to accept what people were already starting to whisper back then. I want the best for MC. I'm sure all of us do. Like I mentioned before, she, like every other artist, is putting herself out there for the opinions/comments. We all aren't going to see eye to eye but we should at least respect each other's views or observations. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 23:31) this is a reply to message 110,266

Stop the nonsense (110,266) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I don't know if anyone outside this forum know we exist, really. And what percentage of the world are we? Some medieval small village I tell you. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:39)

Changes (110,272) by Lara from Middle East Everyone changes, we all get it, the only one who seems not get it is Mariah. What bothers me the most is the feeling Mariah is forcing her game. She's pushing to be sexy, she's pushing to belt and sing, she's pushing to be trendy. All of those used to come effortlessly for her... and sometimes she was a trend setter. She's trying to stay the untouchable Mariah of the 90s and 00s, ironically she was at that time very relatable and "touchable". A complete opposite of nowadays. At the beginning of the interview in Jimmy Kimmel, she was asked what took you so long to make this album, to which she answered something like "I was getting it together." Now that's more that we need, relatable Mariah. I'm sure her medications are interfering with her creativity and also her weight. Instead of just explaining, she's putting an act, which makes me sad how much she's trying to stay in the image she created instead of embracing her changes. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 22:58)

Stop the nonsense (110,271) by ADAM from USA This is a Mariah fandom website, I thought this was the most appropriate spot to express our thoughts on MC good, mid, or bad. I don't think people should censor themselves to appease one person or persons. If you don't like something, don't respond or thumbs up it. It's simple. Just keep scrolling. If Mariah were to read this board, she can absorb what she wants and discard the rest. It's public forum - you can't believe in the good critiques if you don't also make room for legitimate criticism. Lastly, the foundation of all this is that we are all clearly engaged again because she's back in the public eye. When people stop talking is when you should be concerned. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 22:21) this is a reply to message 110,265

Stop the nonsense (110,265) by Jamie from UK Hello? Is this not a Mariah forum where we're free to talk about all things Mariah, whether it be good or bad? Mariah put herself in the public domain, so unfortunately she is subject to praise and criticism. I class myself as an honest person, I'm a Mariah fan and will critique how I want to, whether that be good or bad. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:29)

Article: Mariah mobbed by fans ahead of Brighton Pride performance (110,270) by TJ from Norway Also another normal outfit. Keep them coming. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 20:55)

Stop the nonsense (110,269) by Stacey from USA Hey man, we have the OG fans here and the wannabe OG fan (aka me). It's the world that is missing out on all these fabulous people. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 19:17) this is a reply to message 110,266

Stop the nonsense (110,266) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I don't know if anyone outside this forum know we exist, really. And what percentage of the world are we? Some medieval small village I tell you. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:39)

Stop the nonsense (110,268) by Jamie from UK Leave if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to be here. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 17:29) this is a reply to message 110,266

Stop the nonsense (110,266) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I don't know if anyone outside this forum know we exist, really. And what percentage of the world are we? Some medieval small village I tell you. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:39)

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,267) by Lighty from China These events are actually good vehicles for promoting the new singles/album if done right. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 17:11) this is a reply to message 110,262

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,262) by Bobby A from United States Great points, Jamie. I hope when the HFIA promos start in mid-September that we see a more focused and relatable MC. I hope she talks about 100% about her new album and not her diva antics. I don't like that she has all of these events on August 2nd, August 15th, September 13th, September 17, and September 20th in the midst of releasing a new album. These are too many events taking time away from promoting Here For It All. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:53)

Stop the nonsense (110,266) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I don't know if anyone outside this forum know we exist, really. And what percentage of the world are we? Some medieval small village I tell you. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:39) this is a reply to message 110,265

Stop the nonsense (110,265) by Jamie from UK Hello? Is this not a Mariah forum where we're free to talk about all things Mariah, whether it be good or bad? Mariah put herself in the public domain, so unfortunately she is subject to praise and criticism. I class myself as an honest person, I'm a Mariah fan and will critique how I want to, whether that be good or bad. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:29)

Stop the nonsense (110,265) by Jamie from UK Hello? Is this not a Mariah forum where we're free to talk about all things Mariah, whether it be good or bad? Mariah put herself in the public domain, so unfortunately she is subject to praise and criticism. I class myself as an honest person, I'm a Mariah fan and will critique how I want to, whether that be good or bad. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:29) this is a reply to message 110,264

Stop the nonsense (110,264) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway No, Mariah will never quit the diva act, no, the Karadashians have not made her unsure about her age, no, a different roll out would not have made the last two single successful, no, I said a no no, like it Frenche, no, in Spanish, no. People here on this board are completely bashing Mariah and make up outrageous reasons for what no. You are criticizing Mariah while you are all living in a Mariah fan forum creating a whole universe of excuses of why her voice is lost, her eyes are dead, who should have collaborated, how Mariah should have taken care of her voice, what affect people surrounding Mariah has, the list can go on and on. Just imagine being Mariah living in this celebrity world and what micro cosmos that will lead to. But here we are, bashing Mariah for being out of touch, too into herself and her yes people, but we are still making a universe ourselves that really doesn't exist outside the MCArchives? Hello? If this board can get so delusional, imagine being Mariah the last 35 years. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:15)

Stop the nonsense (110,264) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway No, Mariah will never quit the diva act, no, the Karadashians have not made her unsure about her age, no, a different roll out would not have made the last two single successful, no, I said a no no, like it Frenche, no, in Spanish, no. People here on this board are completely bashing Mariah and make up outrageous reasons for what no. You are criticizing Mariah while you are all living in a Mariah fan forum creating a whole universe of excuses of why her voice is lost, her eyes are dead, who should have collaborated, how Mariah should have taken care of her voice, what affect people surrounding Mariah has, the list can go on and on. Just imagine being Mariah living in this celebrity world and what micro cosmos that will lead to. But here we are, bashing Mariah for being out of touch, too into herself and her yes people, but we are still making a universe ourselves that really doesn't exist outside the MCArchives? Hello? If this board can get so delusional, imagine being Mariah the last 35 years. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:15)

London (110,263) by Jamie from UK Now that ensemble in London was on point. She looks gorgeous and not trying too much. She looks there like I would like her to look. Relaxed but chic. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:01) this is a reply to message 110,261

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,261) by Bobby A from United States I noticed that as well. She looks a lot heavier in person. If you compare the Sugar Sweet video clip to the London photos from yesterday, you can tell the Sugar Sweet video clip is heavily edited. Why can't MC stop the diva antics and her desire to stay young? I think The Kardashians have had a negative influence on MC trying to stay young looking in the public's eye. People are not amused with her diva antics especially pop radio program diectors. These diva antics have negatively influenced the public's perception of her. Also, it is not helping that she can't sing like she used to. I have always wondered why the public loves Sza's music despite of her heavily autotuned vocals. I think it is because her lyrics are relatable and she doesn't act like a diva. This is what MC is missing in the public's eye. I believe MC acts like a diva because she is desperately trying to conceal the effects of being bipolar and the lost of her once beautiful voice. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:30)

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,262) by Bobby A from United States Great points, Jamie. I hope when the HFIA promos start in mid-September that we see a more focused and relatable MC. I hope she talks about 100% about her new album and not her diva antics. I don't like that she has all of these events on August 2nd, August 15th, September 13th, September 17, and September 20th in the midst of releasing a new album. These are too many events taking time away from promoting Here For It All. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:53) this is a reply to message 110,260

Sugar Sweet video clip (110,260) by Jamie from UK I think it's a combination of that and being heavily medicated. Problem with Mariah now is she's living in a dreamlike state and has totally lost touch with reality. Whatever medication she is on is not working for her, unless there is more going on ie some cognitive disorder. The cute diva thing isn't working for her now either, all this "I don't acknowledge time" rubbish needs to stop, she needs to grow up, have a laugh yes but get back to being herself and not an act. Whether that's possible now I don't know, she seems completely lost in herself. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 15:30)

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