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Re: Hoping for work on new album in 2020 (91,835) (91,843) by T from USA
I totally agree with Poo Bear. I think the next time out they will come up with even better songs, hard to believe but I really do. However, you can't have another "Butterfly" without Walter A unfortunately. He was right, together they do a certain kind of pop song that hasn't been able to be done without the both of them together. Butterfly benefited by that partnership.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 03:44)
Re: Price Sisters plus Melanie Daniels (91,814) (91,842) by 123 from USA
This would be great but I don't foresee Kelly Price reducing herself to singing backup anyone. Maybe just one Price Sister and Melonie if they are still up for it. Instead of the Price Sisters they could be called MeloPrice?
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 03:12)
Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,828) (91,841) by 123 from USA
How do we know she didn't say thank you? Tommy and Mariah apparently had a twitter exchange where he congratulated her and told her that he wouldn't turn her into Connie Francis. She replied and called him a jokester.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 03:01)
Re: Hoping for work on new album in 2020 (91,835) (91,840) by 123 from USA
I liked the YouTube Q and A. I was surprised that she is in fact already planning new music. I figured it she might not really be into doing another album when the label let the last one die quickly but sending her singles to one or two small radio formats (nothing screams like aging has been that the label doesn’t believe in than adult ac only releases). I was surprised that she shared she had two males in mind that she spoke over the phone with to do collaborations with. I think this new career peak and awesome execution from her new team put some fire under her to try again. I just hope the labels pick the right singles and sends them to all formats, maybe a hot feature with a big artist of the day may be her way of pushing them to do it.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 02:39)
Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,838) (91,839) by We are Lambily from USA
Damn as I said working with all those artists means nothing, numbers don't lie. Mariah has had major success without him, has he had major success without her?

I hate the way you guys defend this non loyal producer. Name one great song he has produced without Mariah, let me check it out. Nobody talks about him. He comes out of his cave every Christmas to claim Mariah's success.

[Webmaster: I give up. I don't stand a chance against this much stupidity. Sorry. Btw: "He won the 1999 Grammy Award in the Record of the Year category for producing My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion, and the 2000 Grammy Award for Non-Classical Producer of the Year."]
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 02:21)
Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,836) (91,838) by We are Lambily from USA
That's amazing but where is the success though, also I'm talking about after he stopped working with Mariah. Mariah is more successful than everyone on that list.

[Webmaster: Walter worked with all the artists on the list after he and Mariah split. You keep on telling nonsense without checking facts. Are you an idiot?]

Walter and Mariah have written some of my fave Mariah songs, but at the end of the day I know my girl Mariah is 90% behind those songs, like I said a producer's job is easy when you have a talented artist like Mariah.

Also when you have loyalty to a industry mogul like Tommy obviously you are gonna work with major artists. But he lost his chance to work with the greatest artist of all time, next to MJ. Mariah don't [sic] need him as much as he needs her. She got another song of the decade without him.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 02:07)
Re: Stream like there's no tomorrow (91,831) (91,837) by SM from Citizen of the World
I totally agree but with Billboard the week ending yesterday, the 19th if she is #1, it will count as the first #1 song of 2020.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 01:56)
Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,833) (91,836) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
"If Walter was this amazing producer, he would've had a career still to this day."

Before you talk nonsense (like you usually do), you should check the facts first. Walter Afanasieff is an amazing producer who worked with dozens of artists. Just to name a few:
- Barbra Streisand
- Celine Dion
- Destiny's Child
- Michael Bolton
- Kenny G
- Daryl Hall
- Luther Vandross
- New Kids on the Block
- Dusty Springfield
- All-4-One
- Tina Arena
- Gary Barlow
- Babyface
- Paul Anka
- Savage Garden
- Marc Anthony
- Ricky Martin
- Lara Fabian
- Christina Aguilera
- Josh Groban
- Lionel Richie
- Jessica Simpson
- Earth, Wind & Fire
- Leona Lewis
- Brian McKnight
- Idina Menzel
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 01:54)
Hoping for work on new album in 2020 (91,835) by Bobby A from United States
I am really hoping that MC begins work on a new album in 2020. She should focus on an album with just two high profile producers from the R&B world and the other from Pop world. Maybe Atlanta high profile producer London On The Track, Ryan Tedder and Dev Hynes can do it. She should collaborate with Jazmine Sullivan, Poo Bear and Sevyn Streeter. They can keep her current creative energy moving in the right direction. Poo Bear is such a great songwriter for a melody with twist. One Mo Gen was brilliant. I would like to see her give us another Butterfly. Another Butterfly album would be the perfect complement to a Caution follow-up.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 01:00)
Please (91,834) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
Can we agree to disagree in regards to Tommy and Walter because honestly speaking had Mariah not get in Tommy’s ear about how she enjoyed her session with Walter while he was an associate producer during the debut album he would not have become her main producing partner from the Emotions album until they fell out during Butterfly. I think that Mariah has given a lot of people enough credit for her success. Now it is time she reap the rewards of her own success. Her she and her team not pushed AIWFCIY the way they have along with the latest installment of MC we probably would not have the success that we have recently had. So I think that Walter and Tommy should get acknowledged to a certain point. On another note, the style music that Walter and Mariah created together is not where she would like to be musically at this point in her legendary career.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 00:50)
Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,828) (91,833) by We are Lambily from USA
Mariah shouldn't call anyone and thank them, Walter gets his check every Christmas, I don't know who said Tommy was the man behind the Christmas album, usually artists have a huge team, anyone of them could've brought that idea to Tommy.

You guys give way too much credit to these men for a woman's work. If Walter was this amazing producer, he would've had a career still to this day. Like Mariah said previously that producers credits was stolen from her at the beginning of her career.
(Saturday 21 December 2019; 00:45)
Re: Variety - Walter A (91,827) (91,832) by Edward from USA
Walter didn't deserve 50% of "AIWFCIY" since Mariah wrote the lyrics by herself, but let's not go crazy here, B. He was instrumental in the creation of the melody/music. Remember he wasn't just sitting there. I think he deserves about 30%. I liked him before he started talking nonsense, saying Mariah made up the word "emblazoned", he should've stuck to playing the piano.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 23:56)
Stream like there's no tomorrow (91,831) by T from USA
Bieber releasing a new single December 24th could ruin Mariah's chance at being the only artist to have a #1 in 4 separate decades. He usually sells 300k in the first few days. AIWFCIY will do 20k so the only chance we have in our control is streaming. Chart week starts today December 20-26. Don't take anything to chance. Stream like there's no tomorrow.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 23:26)
Giving credit to Tommy and Walter (91,830) by ADAM from USA
I just think Mariah wants history to remember to her as the sole talent behind her music which is understandable. However, in a digital age where everything is recorded, she cannot deny some very important facts. Tommy Mottola - not the record company as she vaguely likes to say - was the one who insisted she record a Christmas album and to keep Hero. Not taking anything away from those masterpieces, those specific decisions were instrumental to her massive success. Walter A is another key producer. Sure Mariah has hits for years on end, but none to the scale of the work MC and Walter made. I really dislike that fans on here, can't listen to the critique for what it is. I love MC as much as everyone else here. That's why we use this site daily. It's a great community. However, I shouldn't have to always preface every statement I make with a mile long page of compliments before I go into critique mode. In closing, I wish Mariah would give these two men the proper credit where it's due. Thank goodness Mariah word of mouth isn't the sole source of history because many lambs would be in a river of denial. My references I speak of are Tommy Motorola's autobiography and Walter A's many interviews throughout the years. Neither of these sources made Mariah out as bad or invalid. In fact, they were complimentary, however facts are facts. The best talents in the world are only that because of the guidance they received along the way. No shade. Just stating facts.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 23:12)
Re: Variety - Walter A (91,815) (91,829) by T from USA
She will never go back with him. It could also be pride. I mean her instrument isn't anywhere where it was when she left him.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 22:46)
Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,808) (91,828) by T from USA
I would like to think with all of Mariah's hard earned work, Tommy and Walter might have helped her get her last ever #1. She should call them both and say thank you.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 22:44)
Re: Variety - Walter A (91,815) (91,827) by B from USA
He came across as disingenuous. Mariah gives him the credit he deserves. She wrote the lyrics and created the melody by herself.

(Friday 20 December 2019; 22:06)
Re: Tommy and Thalia congratulate Mariah (91,819) (91,826) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
Amen Stacey. He made some good choices for Mariah's career from a business standpoint. The personal issues not at all.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 22:02)
Re: Walter A. gets really candid (91,808) (91,825) by Dove from United States
I agree with everything you wrote Bill. Her songs with Walter A. are some of my favorites of hers and one can hear with the instrumentals that he's super talented.

Also, I find it really sweet that Tommy and Thalia congratulated her. I mean, so much time has passed. They didn't have the best dynamic but he did do a lot to help her in her career and I'm thankful to him for that. Thalia has been a long time fan of Mariah too. I remember when I was young Thalia mentioned in an interview she was a fan of Mariah during the Daydream era. It's probably not appropriate for her to go around saying that all the time but I don't think she's an evil woman just because she married Mariah's ex-husband.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 22:02)
Re: Second week at #1 (91,817) (91,824) by SM from Citizen of the World
Everyone should know it would drop after Christmas lol.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 21:18)
Walter A continued (91,823) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
Personally I think that he misses his relationship with Mariah. But in all fairness she has given him for the work he did on All I Want for Christmas is you she even gave him a mention in the Amazon documentary surrounding the song so his complaint about shutting him out is baseless. I think that he would like a working relationship with Mariah again, however due to whatever he did to Mariah to betray her trust is something many will wonder until she decides to shed some light on it from her perspective. But I am certain, unless a miracle happens their personal, and working relationship is over, and her fans, and supporters need to accept, and respect that.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 21:08)
Re: Price Sisters plus Melanie Daniels (91,814) (91,822) by Bill from the UK
Oh I agree they were amazing. It's almost as if Merry Christmas should be Mariah feat. The Price Sisters and Melonie as they really made that album what it is. I think the only songs they don't appear on are Miss You Most (at Christmas Time) and God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen. That acapella of them on YouTube singing Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child is beautiful. That gospel, soulful choir sound they brought to the records is very much missed.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 19:32)
Walter (91,821) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
Honestly any true fan would respect Mariah's reasons for not wanting to work with Walter at this point in her career. Obviously I think that it is a lot more that meets the eye and why their relationship has gone sour as Mariah has been extremely vague or very minimal hopefully she will go into detail in her fourth coming memoir.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 19:04)
Re: AIWFCIY video 2019 edition (91,809) (91,820) by Stacey from USA
Exactly. Her team was on fire this Christmas season.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 18:12)
Re: Tommy and Thalia congratulate Mariah (91,806) (91,819) by Stacey from USA
Well, when Mariah mentions in the Amazon mini-doc about the "record company" coming to her about a Christmas album, it was really Tommy who pushed for the idea. So I don't think it has anything to do with a man needing to assert himself or whatever. Geez. It was his idea after all to do a Christmas album. I'm no Tommy fan with how he treated her. But I am a person who gives credit where credit is due.
(Friday 20 December 2019; 18:08)

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