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Re: AIWFCIY #2 (87,275) (87,277) by enwar00 from usa
You're not the only one. A friend texted me the same type of puzzled message with a screen shot showing that simultaneously it just broke the record for highest weekly streams in the U.K. And yet it stalled at #2.
(Saturday 29 December 2018; 01:53)
Re: AIWFCIY #2 (87,275) (87,276) by B from USA
Mariah's struggled to get airplay ever since Touch My Body broke Elvis' record. A lot of radio programmers were up in arms when Mariah broke Elvis' record. Some still claim Mariah simply tied Elvis' record or that Elvis has 19 #1's because one of his single was a double a side (FYI, Mariah's My All was a double a side with Breakdown so if that logic applies she has 19 #1's, lol). Even more people don't want her to break or tie The Beatles record. I could understand their outrage if Mariah was Rhianna but she's a talented songwriter and producer and has one of greatest voices of all time.
(Saturday 29 December 2018; 01:39)
Re: AIWFCIY #2 (87,272) (87,275) by anonymous from UK
152 units away from No.1? I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Am I the only one who feels there may be some kind of insider vendetta to stop this song getting to No.1? It's just so barmy to me that such a musical juggernaut never makes it. I don't want to become one of those crazy conspiracy theory people though so I think I'll just get me some sleep.
(Saturday 29 December 2018; 00:54)
Re: AIWFCIY #2 (87,272) (87,274) by Bill from the UK
I can't believe poor Mariah missed out on AIWFCIY getting to number one again in the UK. I've been permanently scarred due to the injustice in 1994 (she may have lost the battle then but she definitely ended up winning the war). How I wish this song would end up topping the charts (either side of the pond would be fine) one of these days. Maybe next year.
(Saturday 29 December 2018; 00:31)
Re: Honestly (87,270) (87,273) by B from USA
Most likely.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 22:03)
AIWFCIY #2 (87,272) by enwar00 from usa
I just read that AIWFCIY just re-peaked at #2 in the U.K. this week, and was only 152 units away from being the #1 song for the first time. That is so crazy. So fricking close. Now I need to listen to it again, and pretend that the Christmas season won't come to end, and that I don't have to go back to work next week.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 20:28)
Re: Caution trivia (87,262) (87,271) by B from USA
Touch My Body? I'm stumped, lol.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 19:56)
Honestly (87,270) by Edouard from France
Anyone who knows a thing or two about singing can tell Mariah's voice here sounds forced. She lowers the notes and is not that comfortable doing so. She's even a little pitchy at times. She was still finding her voice I believe. Of course she sounds fantastic. I just don't think she likes the way she sounds. I actually like the ending of the song better, but the first half, she sounds very uncomfortable. However it's incredible that they did that song together since the content of the song is very mature. It makes Mariah sound older than she actually was at the time. It's even a bit weird to imagine a grown man probably in his forties at the time singing with a young sensation like Mariah. Maybe the song paralleled Mariah's and her ex-husband life a little too much to you know who's tastes. Dunno.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 19:43)
Giving me life / the Eddie Murphy part (87,269) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I just found out that the speaking part at the beginning is from the movie "Trading places". I know that is was written in the booklet. But I didn't know what movie it is. I googled the translation and realized it's from one of my favorite movies. Lol. Only Mariah would use such a quote and I love it. So it seems that Mariah likes that movie too. Sorry Webmaster for sending an unready message. It was the smartphone.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 19:31)
Re: Caution trivia (87,262) (87,268) by Will from England
It's Like That.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 18:43)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,266) (87,267) by Billy from Greece
Narada Michael Walden produced the Barbra Streisand version.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 09:54)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,255) (87,266) by Hector from Mexico
Narada Michael Walden was not involved in the production of "We're not making love anymore". That song was produced by Afanasieff and Bolton. Source: the credits in the album booklet.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 01:36)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,263) (87,265) by Victoria from USA
I don't think it's a great song, but I miss her sounding like that magic. She's still the best, but the things she could do before time ravaged all our bodies.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 00:26)
Re: Other early duet partners (87,261) (87,264) by Victoria from USA
Michael McDonald? Ooof.
(Friday 28 December 2018; 00:23)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,260) (87,263) by enwar00 from usa
I may be the only one not into this duet in the slightest. I'll probably never listen to it again and would much rather listen to Caution. Personally I'm glad this duet never happened and Mariah blasted out the gate as a solo artist. Hope everyone is having a nice holiday week.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 23:57)
Caution trivia (87,262) by Brad from USA
In what other Mariah Carey song does Mariah warn the potential suitor to use "caution" in his advances?
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 23:26)
Other early duet partners (87,261) by Bobby A from United States
I just was thinking on this rainy day if Mariah could have recorded an original song with Kenny Loggins or Michael McDonald in the same vein as We're Not Making Love Anymore. Both of these great male singers would have complemented Mariah's 90's voice on an original duet so beautifully. Their voices are still in top shape even in their 70's.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 21:43)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,257) (87,260) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Wow just wow. I've always wanted to listen to the full song like so many of you. The snippet I know was great but the full version shows again what a voice. Incredible. There's so much emotion and soul in it. I wish they would release all the hidden treasures too. Thanks for the link. And thanks to Tom Webster for uploading this. I'm so happy to listen to the whole song now.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 20:22)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,258) (87,259) by Bobby A from United States
We need a mp3 version like today. I really miss the pop male and female duets from years ago. This duet speaks volume about their vocal ranges and artistry.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 18:41)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,257) (87,258) by B from USA
He said that he was sent a cease and desist letter after he uploaded it before on either YouTube or SoundCloud by lawyers for Columbia and Warren or something like that. I hope for the 30th anniversary of Mariah Carey Epic and Mariah include it and any other songs recorded during that time that didn't make the album as a bonus tacks and a second disc with the music videos and The First Vision. Does anyone have an MP3 of the full performance?
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 15:32)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,234) (87,257) by Bill from the UK
Thanks a lot for sharing. Simply beautiful. I don't understand how this hasn't been released and why the poster's description is so full of paranoia around it being out there. Both Bolton and Mariah sound amazing, the song is brilliant, and it has made everyone happy to finally hear this in its entirety. I'm hoping Sony Legacy release an anniversary edition of the debut in 2020 with this, the demo, the Tattoo club set, and some other little trinkets. But as usual the anniversary will likely fly by without so much as a nod in the album's direction.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 15:05)
Re: Walter the retail relic (87,233) (87,256) by Geronimo from USA
Your post is right on, especially when you said, "It was their collaborations that deviated from the norm (Underneath The Stars, Fourth of July, Dreamlover) that actually deserves more credit." Underneath the Stars was probably the first song where I recognized that Mariah Carey was a serious creative talent as a songwriter. The writing is lush without being mushy and it is unabashedly sentimental without being corny. Even though there are several layers of vocal harmonies in the background, they intersect in a lean and rhythmically sophisticated way with her soft, elongated, and undulating melody. And the music actually sounds like the world her lyrics describe.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 04:45)
Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,248) (87,255) by B from USA
It was written by Bolton and Warren and produced by Narada Michael Walden and his assistant Walter Afanasieff. Mariah met Walter while working with Walden on her debut and suggest they work together on Love Takes Time against Tommy's protestations that she continue to work with the same producers she worked with on her debut album. Can we please find a new topic to discuss?
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 02:27)
Re: Wendy (87,251) (87,254) by B from USA
Agreed. If Mariah was a has been or irrelevant Wendell wouldn't constantly feature Mariah during her Hot Topics segment on almost a daily basis. Mariah is still a global megastar.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 02:20)
Re: Walter the retail relic (87,249) (87,253) by Ricardo Edwards from New Zealand
Totally agree... life moves on. I remember that episode of Oprah when she had her highschool graduating class on her show. They were all talking about how they were the most wonderful years of their lives etc etc. And Oprah said "Yeah it's fun to look back on them, but I see them as a phase, I don't still live there, I moved on." Life constantly changes and evolves. Yes Mariah was awesome in the early/mid 90's, and she's been awesome throughout and she's awesome today. It is fun to look back on, and enjoy the music, but that era is done and dusted. You come down from the mountain to climb higher mountains, and, with age, the definition of a "higher mountain" becomes very personal. It becomes less about how others perceive what you are doing and more what you feel about what you are doing lol. Record companies won't like it, but Mariah's solid fanbase will. I think she understands this.
(Thursday 27 December 2018; 01:34)

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