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Re: The sequence of events (87,670) (87,674) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Agreed. If I work for someone, and their pee is anywhere near my being... I'm out. Unless golden showers were listed in her job offer, this makes no sense. I also don't understand why Mariah is the target if her suite is all about Stella's abusive ways. (Of course it's where the money is, but pragmatically, how could Mariah be blamed for Stella's abuse?) Does anyone remember seeing this assistant out and about with Mariah? Did this assistant not come on board at Mariah Corp. around the same time as Stella? I would assume Stella had a hand in these recordings the assistant made. I wonder what Tanaka has to say about Stella and the assistant. He was around for the whole mess and seems to have been a savior in the situation to help pull Mariah out of this dark place. One final thought regarding Mariah's possible drug use seen in videos. 1) She's in the music business, "it's all rock and roll baby". 2) She's a grown women who swears and probably uses some kind of substances to let loose. 3) Wasn't there a scene in Mariah's World where the crew on tour were saying they were tripping on Molly/MDMA? (Tuesday 22 January 2019; 20:50)

Re: New found appreciation for IDWC (87,672) (87,673) by MusicfanJ from Germany It's such a great song. And so underrated. I miss those vocals and lyrics too. Sometimes you really need a certain mood to rediscover a song. Since I'm bored of the worldwide charts I rediscover a lot of older records. Brings back good memories and new appreciation too. So keep enjoying "IDWC". (Tuesday 22 January 2019; 17:37)

New found appreciation for IDWC (87,672) by Licia from USA For some reason this morning I've been playing IDWC back to back and I don't know why. Like this song hasn't been listened to by me since at least 1993. I usually pass it up when it pops up on my playlist. I don't know whether I am just in a mood or whether I'm just missing these type of vocals and lyrics. I honestly can't explain it. (Tuesday 22 January 2019; 12:58)

MTV Unplugged (87,671) by Dove from United States In the spirit of keeping it moving: I love the Unplugged album and I wonder if she'll ever do anything like that again. I think about this often and make lists of what six or seven songs I'd like hear her sing on it. It changes all the time but before Caution came out it went like this: 1. Betcha 'Gon Know (The Prologue) 2. Meteorite 3. Lullaby 4. Money ($*/...) 5. Dedicated 6. Candy Bling 7. I Wish You Well I also would love if they remastered audio from the Daydream tour and released that as an album. All her tours but the Daydream tour is my favorite. I know it's dubbed but the dubbed vocals are heavenly and I would love to listen to them in high quality. It would also be cool if the whole Caution album had a live version, like with a real band. (Tuesday 22 January 2019; 11:16)

The sequence of events (87,670) by Matthew from USA The sequence of events paints the personal assistant in a very bad light. Mariah was the first one to file. She was the first one to bring the law into it. This means that the assistant approached Mariah on the hush and tried to get money for private videos taken while she was employed by Mariah. This is the first hint at what this woman is after - money. It was only after Mariah exposed her extortion attempt that this woman came up with a laundry list of abuses and injustices she suffered at the hands of Stella. If the assistant was concerned about getting justice, she would have been the first to court, and her suit would be aimed at her abuser. Her suit is aimed at Mariah because Mimi is where the money is at. In her counter-suit, this woman claims to have suffered being peed on multiple times. You might be wondering what could make a person stick around in a job after the first two times their boss takes a piss on them. If you guessed money, you guessed right. This assistant woman is so transparent, we're seeing right through her like she bathing in windex. I'm not seeing how anyone can really be in the assistant's corner. But I checked here and it seems some lambs are. Very interesting. (Tuesday 22 January 2019; 03:24)

Re: The blame game (87,667) (87,669) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I also agree with this and it may confuse people but it's the truth. Do I think it would be healthy for Mariah to be more forthcoming about certain aspects? Yes I do for her own authenticity and her relationship to herself and others. But, I also see no value in being angry with her or condemning her. That won't help her either. Just because I acknowledge I can see unhelpful patterns in her life doesn't mean I think she's a bad person. I don't live in the world she does with the pressures and expectations of celebrity. I think she's human and makes mistakes. I still appreciate her and would love to see her free of public scandals like the one she is facing now. (Tuesday 22 January 2019; 00:22)

Re: The blame game (87,667) (87,668) by RibbonB from USA Well said. (Tuesday 22 January 2019; 00:16)

The blame game (87,667) by anonymous from UK Wow, ok, there are a lot of strange things being said at the moment on this board. I'll add my two cents and maybe someone else will find what I've got to say strange. Do I think Mariah is a poor, helpless victim here? No. Do I understand childhood traumas and traumas experiences as an adult impact on a person? Yes. Do I think that gives a person a free pass to act how they want, when they want, and yet always get to play the victim and cry wolf when the going gets tough or things don't go quite the way they hoped? No I absolutely bloody do not. Mariah has shared countless times the traumas she has experienced, and whilst I commend somebody relaying their experience, that also means that she is aware those times could have a negative impact on her mental health and well-being and so there is absolutely a responsibility to oneself to seek help, whether that be therapy, medication, religion, whatever. We have all, and I mean pretty much every human being on the planet experienced our own traumas that may impact on our decisions and behaviour down the line, however that doesn't mean we can do as we wish consequence free and expect people to brush it off due to our past negative experience. On the flip side of it, whatever Mariah has done in private, as long as she wasn't seriously physically or mentally abusing or hurting anyone, well, as unsavoury as some may find her personal life, that is indeed what it is - personal. It should be kept that way, and looking to release the videos or blackmail MC with the threat is down to one thing and one thing only - financial gain. A true victim of horrific circumstances doesn't care to share videos unless there is a cash settlement, they would want to see justice done. I don't really care if Mariah is snorting coke off a hookers tits in those videos, I don't want to see them, and I don't think it's anybodys damn business. We do have to very much bear in mind, that the public persona is just that - a persona, we all have one to some degree, which can be quite different to what it's like when we're at home and we think nobody (outside of our circle) is watching. To summarise - Mariah is not eternally a victim, yet as a human prone to make mistakes, she is also entitled to a personal life which is kept away from public eyes, and any attempt to violate that should be shot down. (Monday 21 January 2019; 23:41)

This latest hiccup (87,666) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Hopefully with this latest hiccup Mariah has learned her lesson to stop dealing with fans who are looking to come up off of her name. Also to deal with competent people who know how to handle a star of her magnitude. Honestly as much as I love MC I have to blame her for this simply because she allowed these charades to go on longer than they should have. Stella and company did not care about MC at all, their only purpose was to gain more fame and recognition off of MC’s and image and MC was burned in the end and for that she has to blame herself for being so trusting. Hopefully this is the last chapter in the Stella era and we can get back to the great things that have been happening with the caution era, both personally and professionally. (Monday 21 January 2019; 22:52)

A No No remix (87,665) by Bobby A from United States Scott Storch could make A No No a club anthem if he remixed it with MC's resung vocals. Remember his remix of It's Like That. I hope radio plays the JD remix when it drops. The remix should be on a re-release of Caution with 3 additional tracks to promote the tour. (Monday 21 January 2019; 19:24)

Re: If it was me (87,658) (87,664) by Geronimo from USA Randy, what you are saying is really weird. Everyone knows Mariah is an adult with an opulent private and public lifestyle. The fact that she is an entertainer with a manufactured public image is not a problem - it is the actual difference between entertainment and mundane reality that people escape for a few moments in their adult lives. Mariah is a professional and she knows the difference. As long as she is not hurting people I do not care about the part of her life she keeps private because I am a person and so is she. Entertainment and fantasy, smoke and mirrors, is her job. Why, then, would you "kinda" want her employees to violate their confidentiality agreements, break the law, break the trust Mariah put in them, film her without her consent, and use those images to expose her privacy to voyeurs? We all know she has been in relationships with men, married twice, has two children, and is still overcoming an unfortunate childhood in addition to significant early adult professional and domestic abuse. I would not be surprised if she indulges in a substance other than alcohol (although she has not decided to discuss that or indulge in public, which is an adult option to which she is entitled). Why do you "kinda" wish more abuse and humiliation on her? Is it because you are in fact eternally 12 and fail to make an adult distinction between real life and entertainment? No matter what technology produces and no matter what back-alley morality social media inspires in degenerates with poor home training - human decency depends on regular people holding each other to a standard of basic interpersonal trustworthiness. Secretly filming people who are not hurting others and using threats to release the images for blackmail is wrong. So is wanting that footage released just so you can experience Mariah adjusting her persona according to your concept of her reality. That's borderline, bro. (Monday 21 January 2019; 19:14)

Re: If it was me (87,661) (87,663) by B from USA Did someone claim Da Brat did so without Mariah's consent? (Monday 21 January 2019; 18:48)

Re: If it was me (87,656) (87,662) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I actually wholeheartedly agree Bill. Most of us are very aware she wasn't making healthy choices. I just don't see her as embodying the desire to be forthcoming about how things unraveled. I'd be happy to be wrong though. (Monday 21 January 2019; 18:38)

Re: If it was me (87,658) (87,661) by Edward from USA Oh Randy, you should too leave this board. Remember Mariah is eternally 12, vulnerable, helpless and in a bubble. She couldn't tell cocaine from weed. Maybe they put that stuff in a hookah or something, and she thinks she's inhaling fun stuff. Da Brat, that's the evil, she revealed Mariah had breast implants on the remix for Heartbreaker without Mariah's consent when she rapped: "Guess who's back in the mothereffing house, with two big old tities for your mouth." Wait a minute, I just had an epiphany: Definitely the Illuminati is out there to get Mariah. According to YouTube videos, if you're a freak, they don't want you. Maybe Mariah has behaved freaky videos so they wouldn't do to her what they did to Whitney. If a video of Mariah engaged in an orgy surfaces, we must watch it carefully but never judge. We all must remain positive and watch the video with caution. (Monday 21 January 2019; 16:33)

Re: Random thoughts (87,630) (87,660) by Terna from Nigeria I love your point of view on Stella and her reign of terror. I too was one of those who did not judge her off just photos alone, it was too early for that. I was waiting for her to prove herself managing Mariah, something she didn't live up to and everything went south from there. However, I don't agree with you on the Brett Ratner statement that he doesn't make good videos for Mariah. That's simply not true, "The Emancipation Of Mimi" era alone had him to thank for some of her best videos up to that point. He also directed "Touch My Body" which basically saved that era and I dare say it's up there with "Honey" in terms of quality. (Monday 21 January 2019; 15:15)

Re: Thimothée Chalamet in "Giving Me Life" music video (87,657) (87,659) by Shezz from Pk Thanks. (Monday 21 January 2019; 14:56)

Re: If it was me (87,656) (87,658) by Randy from USA Bill, I couldn't have said it better myself. I kinda want the video to come out, whatever it is, to smash this eternally 12, obsessed over lighting, excuses for voice, all about the ensemble image that she's been clinging to for awhile. A former board member and I were talking about her interview on The View in 2005 whereas she was classy, smart, lucid, humble, beautiful and a star. I want that MC back. And if this is the reality check that will force her to see a 49 year old, mother of twins, icon when she looks in the mirror, hey I'm here for it. I don't want anyone to be humiliated or sad but sometimes ego and pride are monsters that don't disengage on their own. And what's funny is to watch board members here blame the people filming MC in compromising positions and not the superstar in front of the camera. It never ends. (Monday 21 January 2019; 14:19)

Re: Thimothée Chalamet in "Giving Me Life" music video (87,655) (87,657) by Lara from Middle East In the show they ask each guest what is their song for several categories: song to dance to etc. "Giving me life" was the song he chose for the "guilty pleasure" category. (Monday 21 January 2019; 11:44)

Re: If it was me (87,654) (87,656) by Bill from the UK Whatever happens, happens. Mariah made these choices and she will need to own them. Part of me thinks she should let it all out, and then humble herself by admitting what she did was wrong (if it's as bad as has been implied), and then use that to start a clean slate and make some positive changes in her life. Bring her back down to earth a bit. She's human and makes mistakes. Everybody deals with consequences from their actions eventually, and it can't be healthy for her to forever be looking over her shoulder and having NDAs coming out of every orifice. My advice: air everything so her enemies have no ammunition, take back the power, stop masquerading behind a false projection of yourself. Be honest about who you are and where you are now (including your voice). As with the bipolar announcement, the fans won't turn their backs on you, and you will always be loved and cherished. (Monday 21 January 2019; 10:13)

Re: Thimothée Chalamet in "Giving Me Life" music video (87,650) (87,655) by Shezz from Pk Saw this on Instagram the other day and loved it. Can some French speaker translate what was happening here? Seems like they were making him guess the singer. Interesting that they played that song for it. It's such a bop. (Monday 21 January 2019; 03:45)

Re: If it was me (87,649) (87,654) by Dove from United States MusicfanJ, I think we were all thinking that when the awkward Instagram pictures and videos were surfacing. It was a weird time for all of us. Whatever is on these recordings, I don't think it would be that damaging to her career. MC has a loyal fan base and the people who would have a problem are the people who don't buy her music anyway. I just hate the thought of the assistant making money off of things she stole from MC. (Sunday 20 January 2019; 19:49)

Re: Mariah sues personal assistant (87,632) (87,652) by Lila from United States It goes without saying that there would be some level of scandal. That can't be avoided should something of that nature exist and be released. Many A and B celebrities wouldn't be immune to that and many of them also do not have images akin to Cardi B's. I'd say Cardi more of an outlier than the rule. Classy is something many fans see Mariah as. I don't think that's the first word most of the general public would use unless referencing her 90's persona. So, I don't think that's anything to worry about in the sense that she'll be crucified because so many thought she was so classy these days. If another big name singer's performance on a big platform on NYE had gone as poorly as Mariah's had on NYE, a time of the year where there's usually not a lot of competition for headlines, they would've been big news too. That didn't have to do with high standards for Mariah but the nature of news and her being famous. Not to forget, she and her partner in crime were keeping the ball rolling with talk of suing DCP and them foiling her. Things would've blown over a lot sooner had they not egged it on. I think this would be similar to that. It would make headlines and be talked about because she is very famous and it would make for good gossip. People would talk, criticize, and joke but I think most of the public would chalk it up to yet another antic in a long line of ridiculous antics and eventually it would all blow over as long as there was no one egging it on. (Sunday 20 January 2019; 16:19)

Re: Mariah sues personal assistant (87,634) (87,651) by Andrew from London UK At least get the name right. And proceed with caution. (Sunday 20 January 2019; 14:56)

Thimothée Chalamet in "Giving Me Life" music video (87,650) by MC1989 from Spain One of my favourite actors and one of the world's most popular ones, Thimothée Chalamet, revealed he loves "Giving Me Life" and he even lip-synched and danced to the song on a TV program. If I was Mariah's manager, I would contact him immediately and ask him to appear in "Giving Me Life" video. He's super talented, young and very popular, so I would use his popularity and influence and release that song, which is a fan favourite, and Caution's most acclaimed song by the critics. (Sunday 20 January 2019; 12:26)

Re: If it was me (87,647) (87,649) by MusicfanJ from Germany "I think about people who are icons like Elvis, The Beatles, Marilyn Monroe." Paloma but that was a time where the internet and the smartphones didn't exist. That today a grownup global superstar like Mariah is so naive, I can't understand as much as I try to. I mean to hang out with trash people (her old team) and thinking it's ok, nothing will happen, I don't get it. The Instagram videos at that time were embarrassing enough. What was MC thinking? I mean we are talking about Mariah Carey not about a reality TV star. For me it's unbelievable, that she trusted Crustella and her clan. With Amy Winehouse, it was the worst. Because of the clips everybody could see the creeping decay of her as a person and artist. It was heartbreaking. Some videos should have never get public. (Sunday 20 January 2019; 12:16)

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