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Re: I feel ashamed (86,798) (86,808) by Licia from USA Haha. I was waiting on you to catch that. Lol. (Monday 3 December 2018; 13:11)

Re: Bill (86,804) (86,807) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Whether beeing nosy and minding everybody's business is a good trait or not, is up for discussion. (Monday 3 December 2018; 12:54)

Re: TJ (86,800) (86,806) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I agree on the seatbelts, but it's very difficult for a viewer to acurately observe what a child is experiencing on stage and the dynamics of the relationship between Mariah and her kids. I feel many critisezes her like it's a friend you know well or a neigbhourg or something. It's difficult from a distance to really know what actually happens in Mariah's private life. (Monday 3 December 2018; 12:51)

Re: 8th Grade (86,796) (86,805) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I actually haven't heard a Timbaland song quite like 8th Grade, to be honest. If anything sounds like an Aaliyah track on Caution, it's the title track. That is 2000-2001 Aaliyah right there: beats, vibe and all. (Monday 3 December 2018; 11:27)

Re: Bill (86,792) (86,804) by Bill from the UK I love being nosey it's one of my best traits. I'm forever meddling in other people's affairs and I love it. (Monday 3 December 2018; 10:37)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,798) (86,803) by Bill from the UK Haha Special K you are too much. (Monday 3 December 2018; 10:36)

Re: The Roof, Lullaby, For The Record, and Giving Me Life (86,778) (86,802) by Tijl from Belgium It is all about Derek Jeter. (Monday 3 December 2018; 10:36)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,769) (86,801) by Shezz from Pk Hasn't the show remained exactly the same since the first year? Except with the addition of The Star. (Monday 3 December 2018; 09:45)

Re: TJ (86,785) (86,800) by TJ from Norway I'm not joking. When saying they should be in bed, I mean that they should not be on stage. If you could see how uncomfortable her daughter was, you would agree. I don't understand how you can say it's ok to do this and it's ok to not use seatbelts, just because it's Mariah. I didn't "mom shame" her at all, I just expressed my thoughts on seatbelts. (Monday 3 December 2018; 06:55)

Re: 8th Grade (86,779) (86,799) by Shezz from Pk A bit but that's just the Timbaland connection. (Monday 3 December 2018; 04:09)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,782) (86,798) by Special K from USA Hmm mmm, don't think for one second Licia I don't see your little slick ass comments against my baby. I already have to fly to the UK and Nigeria to slap folks with my Mariah inspired pony tail then I'm gonna drive to San Jose which ain't too far from me. It's getting too expensive for me to come to Houston so I will just kiss a picture of my baby and dedicate that picture to your ass. (Monday 3 December 2018; 03:50)

Re: 8th Grade (86,766) (86,797) by B from USA Again, I was referring to the beat not Mariah's lyrics or vocals. Guess I should have been more specific. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:34)

Re: 8th Grade (86,775) (86,796) by B from USA The beat sounds like an Aaliyah beat from One in a Million, in my opinion. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:30)

Re: 8th Grade (86,779) (86,795) by Bobby A from United States Yes I do. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:26)

Re: Re: I feel ashamed (86,758) (86,783) (86,794) by MC1989 from Spain I understand what you say. But this is not about hating or not, it's because I love her so much that I can't stand seeing her doing ridicule things like wearing those cheap wings with lights on them and all over her gown as if she was a living Christmas tree. And yes, she sounded very good, she displayed her unique and beautiful tone - I won't mention the usual lipped parts. She still has one of the most beautiful voices in the music industry. What I think is that there's a big difference between being festive and being tasteless or tacky. Mariah can do so much better. I love Caution. I bought tickets to see her in 2 weeks. I'm a fan since the late 90's and I've seen every performance she's done since 1990. So it's not about criticising all she does. It's as easy and simple as dressing her in a propper way and making better choices. She's not singing at a Victoria Secret fashion show, she's performing Hark The Herald Angels Sing. It doesn't fit. It's unapropiate, like singing O Holy Night in a bikini and a scarf on. It cheapens her image. What's the next thing? Sing "Miss You Most" dressed in a gingerbread man costume? Why not sing "AIWFCIY" with reindeer horns on her head? Or maybe sing "Little Snowman" dressed as a real snowman, with a carrot as a nose. If this is the "extravaganza" she's planning for next year's Merry Christmas anniversary, I don't want to be there to watch. I'm already scared lol. I hope that if there is any chance for her to win the Songwriter's Hall of Fame or a Grammy nomination doesn't get ruined because of these bad choices, because, unfortunately, image counts a lot, and even more when it comes to her, after the NYE disaster. As Andrew said, she's doing the exact same show from last year. The same little girl dancing to Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker, the same courtin falling down, the same setlist. It's ok to me, because this is my first time seeing her, but people who already went to the Christmas shows will pay for exactly the same. I think her team could have created a great Christmas - themed show, even with a storyline or something, reflecting the childhood nostalgia and the celebration of Mariah Freaking Carey at Christmas time. They could have created a big structured production, featuring a big orchestra, new song arrangements, trapeze artists during a certain song, different lightings during the show, combining full light for the festive moments and create an intimate and epic acapella moment with "God Rest Ye Merry Yentlemen" just with a faint zenith lighting. They could've used candles on the stage a la Queen's "Who wants to live forever" video, some entreacts with classical music, and different sets for each part of the show. The decoration could mix the pagan and Christian vibes of Christmas, like in Annie Lennox's God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen video. Less "it's festive dahlings" and more creativity from her team. But they're a bit lazy, I guess. So they're bringing the same show, with a new pair of tasteless wings. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:24)

Re: TJ (86,787) (86,793) by Special K from USA I actually agree. I know Mariah loves her kids and she is very proud of them but it's like she is puts them on "display" and they have to perform way too much for me. It's like "lights, camera, action". As a mother it doesn't sit well with me either but at the same time I don't want to judge. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:23)

Bill (86,792) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Bill, you are more nosy about how Mariah cares for her children than a Wendy interview. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:17)

I feel ashamed by Mariah's lambs (86,791) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I feel ashamed because of some of the lambs Mariah has got now. I didn't even think of the outfits, I think the outfits fit the show perfectly, completely over the top. It's not that people here only have an opinion, it's the intensity of the opinions. Reading the "I feel ashamed" title, I wonderd what on earth Mariah had done now, some unethical grusome stuff, but no, it was the angel wings. People her talk about angel wings, kids being up late, and drummer boy body suits like she has bombed a poor village in Yemen. I'm glad the critics in most newspapers are more positive towards Mariah than her lambs. If some of you here on this message board had written the reviews, she would have been panned, making sure nobody would have attended her shows in the future. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:11)

Re: The Roof, Lullaby, For The Record, and Giving Me Life (86,778) (86,790) by RibbonB from USA Aren't you forgetting Candy Bling and Dedicated? Mimi repeats a lot of themes, many or most not autobiographical. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:59)

Re: TJ (86,785) (86,789) by Bill from the UK Lol, now I've actually watched the clip, yes the car is moving haha. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:57)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,782) (86,788) by RibbonB from USA I liked the white princess dress. Roc and Roe looked adorable as usual. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:55)

Re: TJ (86,785) (86,787) by Bill from the UK I suppose the bigger question is around whether it's the right thing to do in wheeling them out on stage in the first place, "irregardless" of the time. Monroe seems to enjoy herself but Rocky always seems bored, scared stiff or disinterested. I guess Nick's okay with it else it wouldn't be happening, but still. Doesn't sit right with me. They've been brought into a life far from ordinary and parenting that must have its challenges. As for seatbeltgate, was the car even moving? (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:54)

Re: The Roof, Lullaby, For The Record, and Giving Me Life (86,778) (86,786) by Elena from The Netherlands They are all about Derek Jeter. Add Don’t Forget About Us to that list. That video was such an obvious reference to Derek. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:35)

TJ (86,785) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Was it not enough with the seat belts, you wanted to mom shame her some more by telling us she should put her kids to bed? In most of the western world, yes, people often put young kids in bed early, but it's not a natural law. Many cultures around the world have very different sleeping routines for their kids. Please tell me you were joking, that having an opinion about when her kids should go to bed, was irony, to show us how ridiculous mom shaming can be? (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:33)

Caution: a track a day (7 of 7) (86,784) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines 8th Grade Should Mariah plan to release anything slow from what's left of this album, this is it. It would definitely be a risk, and she'd playing the game as if it were the late 90s - early 00s again releasing a track like this, but we clearly ain't chasing charts anymore so what more does she have to lose, really? Just shorten that outro and get someone hot (this is begging for a Drake or even a The Weeknd feature) to do his thing before the bridge and fingers crossed we have an unexpected hit or more likely a good chill urban soundtrack to our woe is me pity parties. Timbaland is one of those producers who have such a distinct signature sound - he dominated the mid-latter 00s and Justin Timberlake practically owes him more than half of his career. But in keeping with what she's done to every producer she's worked with in Caution, Mariah shows him who's boss and keeps all his artistic excesses at bay. Timbo wisely obeys and so there's less of the random spoken samples (usually expected in his productions) scattered throughout the track to distract from the dreamy, hypnotic background. This sounds like it would be fun to perform live because it's perfect for audience interaction. The uncomplicated chorus is easy to sing along to and despite the curious title, it's lyrics are very relatable. Mariah has always loved doing something for the nostalgia, and now she has another pretty albeit sad song built around that concept. Just press play and let the reminiscing begin. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:29)

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