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Re: 8th Grade (86,775) (86,796) by B from USA The beat sounds like an Aaliyah beat from One in a Million, in my opinion. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:30)

Re: 8th Grade (86,779) (86,795) by Bobby A from United States Yes I do. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:26)

Re: Re: I feel ashamed (86,758) (86,783) (86,794) by MC1989 from Spain I understand what you say. But this is not about hating or not, it's because I love her so much that I can't stand seeing her doing ridicule things like wearing those cheap wings with lights on them and all over her gown as if she was a living Christmas tree. And yes, she sounded very good, she displayed her unique and beautiful tone - I won't mention the usual lipped parts. She still has one of the most beautiful voices in the music industry. What I think is that there's a big difference between being festive and being tasteless or tacky. Mariah can do so much better. I love Caution. I bought tickets to see her in 2 weeks. I'm a fan since the late 90's and I've seen every performance she's done since 1990. So it's not about criticising all she does. It's as easy and simple as dressing her in a propper way and making better choices. She's not singing at a Victoria Secret fashion show, she's performing Hark The Herald Angels Sing. It doesn't fit. It's unapropiate, like singing O Holy Night in a bikini and a scarf on. It cheapens her image. What's the next thing? Sing "Miss You Most" dressed in a gingerbread man costume? Why not sing "AIWFCIY" with reindeer horns on her head? Or maybe sing "Little Snowman" dressed as a real snowman, with a carrot as a nose. If this is the "extravaganza" she's planning for next year's Merry Christmas anniversary, I don't want to be there to watch. I'm already scared lol. I hope that if there is any chance for her to win the Songwriter's Hall of Fame or a Grammy nomination doesn't get ruined because of these bad choices, because, unfortunately, image counts a lot, and even more when it comes to her, after the NYE disaster. As Andrew said, she's doing the exact same show from last year. The same little girl dancing to Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker, the same courtin falling down, the same setlist. It's ok to me, because this is my first time seeing her, but people who already went to the Christmas shows will pay for exactly the same. I think her team could have created a great Christmas - themed show, even with a storyline or something, reflecting the childhood nostalgia and the celebration of Mariah Freaking Carey at Christmas time. They could have created a big structured production, featuring a big orchestra, new song arrangements, trapeze artists during a certain song, different lightings during the show, combining full light for the festive moments and create an intimate and epic acapella moment with "God Rest Ye Merry Yentlemen" just with a faint zenith lighting. They could've used candles on the stage a la Queen's "Who wants to live forever" video, some entreacts with classical music, and different sets for each part of the show. The decoration could mix the pagan and Christian vibes of Christmas, like in Annie Lennox's God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen video. Less "it's festive dahlings" and more creativity from her team. But they're a bit lazy, I guess. So they're bringing the same show, with a new pair of tasteless wings. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:24)

Re: TJ (86,787) (86,793) by Special K from USA I actually agree. I know Mariah loves her kids and she is very proud of them but it's like she is puts them on "display" and they have to perform way too much for me. It's like "lights, camera, action". As a mother it doesn't sit well with me either but at the same time I don't want to judge. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:23)

Bill (86,792) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Bill, you are more nosy about how Mariah cares for her children than a Wendy interview. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:17)

I feel ashamed by Mariah's lambs (86,791) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I feel ashamed because of some of the lambs Mariah has got now. I didn't even think of the outfits, I think the outfits fit the show perfectly, completely over the top. It's not that people here only have an opinion, it's the intensity of the opinions. Reading the "I feel ashamed" title, I wonderd what on earth Mariah had done now, some unethical grusome stuff, but no, it was the angel wings. People her talk about angel wings, kids being up late, and drummer boy body suits like she has bombed a poor village in Yemen. I'm glad the critics in most newspapers are more positive towards Mariah than her lambs. If some of you here on this message board had written the reviews, she would have been panned, making sure nobody would have attended her shows in the future. (Monday 3 December 2018; 01:11)

Re: The Roof, Lullaby, For The Record, and Giving Me Life (86,778) (86,790) by RibbonB from USA Aren't you forgetting Candy Bling and Dedicated? Mimi repeats a lot of themes, many or most not autobiographical. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:59)

Re: TJ (86,785) (86,789) by Bill from the UK Lol, now I've actually watched the clip, yes the car is moving haha. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:57)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,782) (86,788) by RibbonB from USA I liked the white princess dress. Roc and Roe looked adorable as usual. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:55)

Re: TJ (86,785) (86,787) by Bill from the UK I suppose the bigger question is around whether it's the right thing to do in wheeling them out on stage in the first place, "irregardless" of the time. Monroe seems to enjoy herself but Rocky always seems bored, scared stiff or disinterested. I guess Nick's okay with it else it wouldn't be happening, but still. Doesn't sit right with me. They've been brought into a life far from ordinary and parenting that must have its challenges. As for seatbeltgate, was the car even moving? (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:54)

Re: The Roof, Lullaby, For The Record, and Giving Me Life (86,778) (86,786) by Elena from The Netherlands They are all about Derek Jeter. Add Don’t Forget About Us to that list. That video was such an obvious reference to Derek. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:35)

TJ (86,785) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Was it not enough with the seat belts, you wanted to mom shame her some more by telling us she should put her kids to bed? In most of the western world, yes, people often put young kids in bed early, but it's not a natural law. Many cultures around the world have very different sleeping routines for their kids. Please tell me you were joking, that having an opinion about when her kids should go to bed, was irony, to show us how ridiculous mom shaming can be? (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:33)

Caution: a track a day (7 of 7) (86,784) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines 8th Grade Should Mariah plan to release anything slow from what's left of this album, this is it. It would definitely be a risk, and she'd playing the game as if it were the late 90s - early 00s again releasing a track like this, but we clearly ain't chasing charts anymore so what more does she have to lose, really? Just shorten that outro and get someone hot (this is begging for a Drake or even a The Weeknd feature) to do his thing before the bridge and fingers crossed we have an unexpected hit or more likely a good chill urban soundtrack to our woe is me pity parties. Timbaland is one of those producers who have such a distinct signature sound - he dominated the mid-latter 00s and Justin Timberlake practically owes him more than half of his career. But in keeping with what she's done to every producer she's worked with in Caution, Mariah shows him who's boss and keeps all his artistic excesses at bay. Timbo wisely obeys and so there's less of the random spoken samples (usually expected in his productions) scattered throughout the track to distract from the dreamy, hypnotic background. This sounds like it would be fun to perform live because it's perfect for audience interaction. The uncomplicated chorus is easy to sing along to and despite the curious title, it's lyrics are very relatable. Mariah has always loved doing something for the nostalgia, and now she has another pretty albeit sad song built around that concept. Just press play and let the reminiscing begin. (Monday 3 December 2018; 00:29)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,758) (86,783) by SM from Citizen of the World This message isn’t towards you by any means. But all I want to say is yet again, Mariah can never do anything right. No matter what she does, people be hating on her until the end. It’s a shame. A damn shame. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 22:27)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,758) (86,782) by Licia from USA I actually like a majority of the outfits for the Christmas show.(especially the wings). The only outfit that I've never liked is the little drummer hooker girl one. She could have left that one in Banaka's closet. The downside of the wings for me is that she couldn't move. If she tried to move the wings would either make her fall back or the boobs would topple her forward. Not a good combination. Lol. Other than that I enjoyed her switching the styles up a bit. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 21:15)

Monroe (86,781) by Bill from the UK Has anyone else besides me noticed that Monroe is the spitting image of the little girl that played young Mariah in the Someday video? So eerie yet cool at the same time. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 20:52)

Re: Runway (86,759) (86,780) by B from USA I'm just trying to figure out which version they sampled? Was it the ballad, Fly Away, or one of the Morales remixes. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 20:37)

Re: 8th Grade (86,765) (86,779) by B from USA The beat just reminds me of an Aaliyah beat, does anyone else get an Aaliyah vibe from the beat? (Sunday 2 December 2018; 20:30)

The Roof, Lullaby, For The Record, and Giving Me Life (86,778) by B from USA The Roof Every time I feel the need  I envision you caressing me  And go back in time  To relieve the splendor of you and I  On the rooftop that rainy night Lullaby I don't wanna spend my life Thinking what it could've been like If we had another try (one time) Like back in the day For The Record 'Cause when I'm looking in your eyes Feels like the first time Give me one good reason why We can't just press rewind I don't wanna spend my life Thinking what it could've been like If we had another try (one time) Like back in the day That look on your face Feels like, the first time Giving Me Life Giving me life and it's everything Thinkin' 'bout when we were seventeen Feeling myself like I'm Norma Jeane Here in my arms is where you should be Each song is about Mariah reminiscing about an encounter with a former lover. The Roof, Lullaby, and For The Record are a trilogy as they're seemingly about the same encounter. Giving Me Life could be about the beginning of the romance, maybe that's reach but I don't care, lol. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 20:19)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,758) (86,777) by automatic_prince from Germany Thank you so much for saying that. That was exactly what I was thinking when I saw the pictures. My hopes were up so high after her mostly awesome outfits from the Asian tour. Especially because it will be my bf's first time seeing her. I feel so embarrassed for what we are about to see. The current outfits just look thrown together last minute and super cheap. And don't even get me started on those tacky angel wings. I can't. Oh well I still look forward to seeing her. From what I've seen on Instagram she sounds good. Two more days until the show in Copenhagen. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 18:42)

Re: I feel ashamed (86,758) (86,776) by george golden from uk She has never been a stylish person unfortunately. At least she has gotten past the bodysuit phase. She actually wore it to sing Hero. Lol. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 18:24)

Re: 8th Grade (86,755) (86,775) by george golden from uk Please there is no trace of Aaliyah on 8th Grade. It's purely Mariah at one of her finest moments as a recording artist. It is mind-blowing how good that song is. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 18:20)

Re: Concert in Stavanger, Norway (86,750) (86,774) by TJ from Norway The only thing I wish she wouldn't do was bringing her kids on tour, performing on stage. The concert ended like 10pm and seven year old kids shouldn't be on stage. They should be in bed, sleeping. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 17:52)

Re: Why Mariah Carey is getting mom shamed (86,739) (86,773) by TJ from Norway Even if it isn't against the law, it's not ok to drive without seat belts. Period. It's 2018 and we know better. I don't say they were driving, but it's never ok. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 17:46)

Re: Concert in Stavanger, Norway (86,750) (86,772) by TJ from Norway This concert was a lot of fun. Strong voice. (Sunday 2 December 2018; 17:43)

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