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Re: Article: Mariah Carey wows fans in Saudi Arabia (87,852) (87,854) by Bill from the UK I watched the highlights on YouTube and I must agree, it was dreadful. If they were the highlights then thank the good Lord above the video didn't subject me to the lowlights. It's the worst she's sounded since that horrific Elusive Chanteuse tour. The rate of decline in her vocals is alarming. (Friday 1 February 2019; 16:43)

Re: Butterfly (87,851) (87,853) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Yes, I totally agree. Even though we can discuss if the style changes that came after Butterfly gave her many new fans, I think that transition in 1997 is what defines her career. And that was what saved her from going into MOR Celine legacy. Mariah's musical transition gave her edge and credibility, and her sexyness in that era is the classiest she's been. But I also think "Emancipation of Mimi" saved her from being forgotten too soon, and she have become somewhat of a living legend after that. (Friday 1 February 2019; 16:33)

Article: Mariah Carey wows fans in Saudi Arabia (87,852) by 90sMariah from SG I watched videos of her Saudi performances and wow they were bad. She was so hoarse that nothing was coming out, making her dodge every mid range notes. My All was my favourite of the night and it was horrendous. I wish I could get paid millions while doing the bare minimum like her. I wish she or someone from her team could read this: Mariah, please for the love of everything that is holy, when you're going to do a show pre-record all your songs, practice and rehearse to lip sync the hell out of them. Celine does it all the time (thus preserving her voice) and she's amazing at it. (Friday 1 February 2019; 15:49)

Re: Butterfly (87,835) (87,851) by Bill from the UK Great words. I think when Mariah is remembered it will be AIWFCIY and Butterfly that end up defining her. That capturing a moment notion you speak of reminds me so much of the stories behind Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album. (Friday 1 February 2019; 15:33)

Critical artice in the biggest newspaper in Norway (87,850) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway In VG, the most read news paper in Norway, there is a very critical article about the concert in Saudi Arabia. There have been alot bad press about Mariah in Norwegian news papers, but it has always been a bit silly. This time around though, it's really bad press. (Friday 1 February 2019; 15:15)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey wows fans in Saudi Arabia (87,838) (87,849) by Leito from USA I read somewhere, she was wearing a bulletproof vest underneath. I'm not certain, but I wouldn't surprise if she was wearing a custom made vest. After all, there were threats. (Friday 1 February 2019; 14:34)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey wows fans in Saudi Arabia (87,846) (87,848) by TJ from Norway Is it possible that it's medical reasons? (Friday 1 February 2019; 14:25)

Sounding like an old goat (87,847) by TJ from Norway It was nice to see that she dressed age properly in Saudi Arabia. (Friday 1 February 2019; 14:20)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey wows fans in Saudi Arabia (87,838) (87,846) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Yes, I think it's really strange to think about that she just don't have the disipline to keep her weight stable. I mean, I can, and I think I would have managed also if I was a global super star, especially if I had been so vocal about wanting to be thin. But then again, she might need meds to keep her bipolar disorder stable, and those kind of meds are influencing your hunger alot. So we might not be so fast to judge Mariah. (Friday 1 February 2019; 13:58)

Saudi Arabia, after thought (87,845) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I was, and still am, against performing there, because for the most of the people of the world, it shows that Mariah just doesn't care that much. But after reading the article about the concert, it shows a different side of the subject, and I can some what agree on that. (Friday 1 February 2019; 13:54)

JR (87,844) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Saying that to a Norwegian, or many living in Europe, is what we think is much of the problem in the US, and sometimes in Europe. Your comment touches the far right rethoric, and I find it appalling. And I would reccomend you to not be so bombastic when talking about politics in this board. Keep it in the theme of Mariah. (Friday 1 February 2019; 13:51)

Mariah Carey wows fans in Saudi Arabia (87,843) by B from USA "As the first female international artist to perform in Saudi Arabia, Mariah recognizes the cultural significance of this event and will continue to support global efforts towards equality for all," the publicists added. Why were people calling her out when her performance is helping reform entertainment restrictions in the kingdom? (Friday 1 February 2019; 13:51)

From Daydream to Butterfly (87,842) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines When many fans and critics always revere Butterfly as Mariah's transitional album where she "changed" her sound, it's no wonder why most can be misled to think that there's this huge difference between pre and post Butterfly eras. We all know that Mariah's musical transition from adult contemporary pop soul to hip-hop and then later urban to the current sound she has with Caution has been the most natural and authentic one in popular music. What differentiates the two eras, though, is that the calculation and the restrictions that were still in effect on Daydream were thrown out the window with Butterfly. One could feel like she sounded less eager to please and appeal to everybody, and the music definitely showed it with less radio-friendly songs in favor of more slow-burn tracks. Butterfly's relation to its predecessor is akin to Janet's The Velvet Rope to janet - pretty much within the same realm sound-wise, but are set apart by the the level of artistry and self-expression. (Friday 1 February 2019; 12:00)

Re: The Roof 90s Mariah (87,837) (87,841) by Licia from USA I respect that everyone doesn't agree with my opinion, but I really don't give two sh*ts about how you or anyone else feels about my taste level. I have not been rude to anyone who's opinion was different from mine and their responses to me have not been rude. You could have disagreed like everyone else without being a twat. (Friday 1 February 2019; 11:21)

Treated me kind (87,840) by Stacey from USA Through all the arguments, discussions, fights, dumb comments, smart ones too, even all the posts where Edward forgets to take his meds (seriously dude, get an alarm clock, lol, works for me), etc... I still get goosebumps when I think of the first time the world heard those few words, "treated me kind". The rest they say is history. Don't forget why we all love MC. That voice. (Friday 1 February 2019; 08:17)

Re: Daydream vs Butterfly (87,833) (87,839) by Stacey from USA Daydream. (Friday 1 February 2019; 08:08)

Article: Mariah Carey wows fans in Saudi Arabia (87,838) by 90sMariah from SG She looks bloated again. (Friday 1 February 2019; 03:12)

Re: The Roof (87,816) (87,837) by 90sMariah from SG Your taste level is questionable. (Friday 1 February 2019; 03:08)

Re: CNN on Mariah's concert in Saudi Arabia (87,821) (87,836) by John from USA It's on the news because it's in fashion to be an internet woke activist and social justice warrior nowadays. It's the new in thing, and while SJWs, call out culture, and outrage culture are giving attention-seeking fame their shot at fame and self-gratification at being "woke" (whether they consciously or unconsciously recognize that) they are sadly, the enemies of humanity and will destroy human society eventually. If you are not outraged, then you are callous and insensitive, apparently, so better find something to be outraged about. Sad. (Friday 1 February 2019; 01:29)

Butterfly (87,835) by anonymous from UK I think what makes Butterfly Mariah's magnum opus is that it is entirely timeless and a near perfect example of its genre. Lyrically rich, vocally beautifully fragile (in that the full voiced vocals were, up to this point, their most absent and the emotion behind the singing was palpable), Butterfly truly defies time and charts. It was written at the exact moment of a person's life where immense change was occurring, and Mariah was able to document that via music and song, in a way very rarely heard. Usually we get a before and after, but Butterfly as a body of work truly represents a transition, an all consuming, powerful, emotional, hurtful, overwhelming change. Something was captured here, it's almost ethereal, and there will never be another Butterfly moment, there cannot be. Another transition may occur, or many, but none will ever be that huge, that intrinsic to a persons life again, and being able to translate that into something that can be recorded is mind blowing. Yes, I am very emotional you can call the shrink, but I feel things, and I think that's why Butterfly is so special, so unique. It may not be your favourite, it's not even my favourite, of Mariah's albums, but it's certainly up there, and it does stand alone, on its own, and it is, I feel, a triumph of human musicality and translating emotion into word and song. (Thursday 31 January 2019; 23:52)

Re: The Roof (87,816) (87,834) by B from USA Agreed. If Mariah had released Butterfly after Music Box and Merry Christmas I could understand the claims that she all of a sudden changed her musical direction on Butterfly but in reality she had already done so on Daydream and her remixes. People act like she changed her sound radically when she really didn't. She's always been an R&B artist and she'd been sampling songs since 91. (Thursday 31 January 2019; 23:38)

Daydream vs Butterfly (87,833) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Licia you do make a strong point with Daydream but it has hints of the urban flavor Butterfly was her full transition to the Urban R&B and hip hop sound along with a new image. But I will say Daydream was the perfect name for that particular album as the vibe of the album was hypnotic and mesmerizing. Her vocals were also very dreamy as well. All in all both albums were the perfect transition for our queen at the time. As they both serve their purpose in her amazing catalog of music. (Thursday 31 January 2019; 21:43)

Another successful show (87,832) by We are Lambily from USA Damn, I just saw lots of clips from the event, that crowd was wild, so many knew the lyrics, so many lambs. Also the venue is one of the most safest in the world. I'm so happy Mariah didn't cancel her show due to threats, those losers would've threaten everybody in hopes of cancelled shows. Let's live our lives to the fullest instead of letting these cowards run our lives. Another check for Mariah, and I'm happy some lambs over there got their moment. Everyone deserves to be blessed by that voice. (Thursday 31 January 2019; 21:43)

Re: Saudi Arabia (87,809) (87,831) by We are Lambily from USA Dove, I'm so happy you feel safe in America, but unfortunately millions of people don't feel that away. Also one of many reasons why I spent more than half of my life in Europe. (Thursday 31 January 2019; 21:38)

Re: Saudi (87,829) (87,830) by B from USA Mariah doesn't want to disappoint her fans. (Thursday 31 January 2019; 21:21)

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