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Re: Walter is Tommy M's silent attack (87,161) (87,166) by B from USA Walter stilll works with/for Tommy. He wrote and produced songs for artists signed to Tommy's Casablanca record label. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:15)

Caution (87,165) by B from USA This is an interesting article about how the public underestimates Mariah and how she is deserving of all the praise she is recieving for Caution. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:13)

Re: Walter (87,160) (87,164) by B from USA He sided with Tommy for financial reasons and he told Tommy Mariah was going to alienate her audience with the musical direction she was taking on Butterfly which ended their professional and personal relationships. I find it odd that he went on to praise My All in the interview after all the interviews he's done in the past claiming she makes up words using My All as an example. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:11)

Article: Walter slams Mariah for not giving him recognition (87,163) by Betty from Canada Walter obviously doesn't know that when MC says she wrote the song as a kid, she was using the word "kid" in a figurative sense, where she actually meant "a long time ago, when she was really young, as in she still felt like a kid she was 23 years old. However, Walter is right about MC not mentioning him, but that is what happens when you wrong MC, she doesn't know you anymore. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 14:04)

Walter (87,162) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Walter is very bitter, those sour grapes that he has been eating have not done him any justice. He wants Mariah to be boxed in which is very disappointing. You would think no matter what he would want to see her grow as an artist. But I am going to say he would not mind her growth as long as he had something to do with it. But since himself, or Tommy, are not a part of the equation any longer he does not like it. Honestly we as fans and supporters should be thankful that Mariah wanted to grow as a creative because she would not be around today had she decided to keep the same formula. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 13:16)

Walter is Tommy M's silent attack (87,161) by Sheila from United States Walter has always been in the background. Trust me, this is a silent dig from Tommy. Mariah is having a great 2018 and Tommy is not here for it. As Michael Jackson and George Michael said - Tommy is the devil. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 11:40)

Re: Walter (87,159) (87,160) by Edward from USA It's always good to know the other side of things. Remember that the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. There's Mariah's truth, his truth and the truth. I read Tommy's book, also read Damizza's book, and there are many things and insights about Mariah's life back then I wouldn't have known if they hadn't spoken about them, especially when Damizza talks about how obsessed Tommy was with Mariah after they divorced and how he kind of wanted to recruit Damizza to keep him informed about her every move to what he declined. I think Walter has diarrhea of the mouth though, he is definitely talking too much, and by inaccurately talking about things that are evidently not true (Mariah made up emblazoned, and that she wrote the song when she was 12) his credibility is questionable. He should just let it go and stop pretending he somehow knows what's best for Mariah. There's also some obvious truth to what he says and it has been discussed here before. Mariah wouldn't be here had she kept on the ballad-only route, but she evolved and here she is still swimming to stay afloat in an ageist industry. When Mariah transitioned incorporating more Hip Hop and R&B, the one thing she never stopped doing was writing great lyrics, but that's not the case now. "Caution" is a good album, but her lyrics are not up to part to anything she's done before, and I'm not talking about ballads. Let's say "Breakdown", that was genius. "Clown" also genius lyrically. So, to write great lyrics you don't have to be locked in one genre and she's proved that. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 11:40)

Walter (87,159) by B from USA Who cares what he says? Him claiming she now says she wrote the song when she was twelve is a thinly vieled attempt to shade her (eternally twelve) just like when he said she made up words (emblazoned). (Thursday 20 December 2018; 08:21)

Caution (87,158) by B from USA Caution was named the album of the year by Paper Magazine. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 08:15)

Re: Walter (87,154) (87,157) by jaker20 from US I do agree. I thought that some of the things he's saying isn't cute. Mariah has mentioned Walter in interviews but she doesnt have to all the time. She is after all the face of the voice and face of the song, apart from being the co-writer. I don't know why he's suddenly being too extra. And to be honest, I love that era but I'm glad Mariah has expanded her creative horizons since because, apart from probably Celine, most of her contemporaries have disappeared into oblivion. It's not always about success but keeping fresh creative juices flowing. He is saying these things because he is not a performer, he doesn't go up there on stage to sell it and make his collaborators attached to his hips forever. Unfortunately, Walter really is a one trick pony, if you think about it. Mariah is a creative person, that's what she does, she creates things. She can't be in the same box Walter is trapped in forever. If its up to him, with his love for the big ballads and big voices, Mariah's career would have ended in 1999. Thankfully Mariah expanded her horizon and 18 years after their last collabs she is still making great music. So if anything Walter's passive aggressive comments is just him being salty about Mariah choosing and controlling the direction she wants to go, and getting success after their collabs. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 04:21)

Thanks Walter (87,156) by Deleted from Czech Funny, I made a lengthy post about Caution and Mariah's creative decline on here last month, and some people didn't like it. Now Walter goes and in a few words vindicates almost every thing I said. It's almost as if he read what I wrote. "I loved the 1990s, because everyone just let loose. We had the big ballads, and Whitney was singing, Celine Dion was singing and Mariah was singing, everyone had a bigger voice and a bigger song and a better song, and more incredible lyrics, and it was a more powerful process and required more talent. Nowadays it's like anybody can do music." "The foundation of her career, the parts that made her a superstar were the bigger songs like Hero, My All, One Sweet Day. And, in between, she came out with a couple of cool ones like Dreamlover, and Visions of Love. So, her big voice lent itself to a bigger song. Along the way, though, she wants to be commercially successful. She wants to be on the radio. To be on the radio and to be Mariah Carey is almost like a contradiction to me. Because a lot of her fans, that I know of, her lambs, love that bigger, better song from her." "It's very, very hard to get on the radio these days. You have to be very hip-hop, very edgy with the lyrics, very sexy and dirty and promiscuous, and it doesn't knock on the doors of the great songwriters anymore." I'm particularly intrigued by his admission that Mariah transitioned into urban music not out of some profound artistic conviction as she claims but through a desire to chase popular trends in the late 90's/2000's. I said the same thing, and it makes a lot of sense. Anyone who has taken even a cursory glance at the songwriting credits for Mariah's albums knows that when she is the main creative force behind a song it's going to be a ballad, and that her hip hop/rnb cuts are largely written by committee. All respect to Walter for making his feelings known. It's very sad the way Mariah has tried to negate his role in the music they made together. I suppose Walter just doesn't fit with the narrative, he doesn't jive with the ghetto persona Mariah's been trying to project for a while. Tragic, because they were absolute dynamite as a team, that kind of creative chemistry can scarcely ever be found. Neither will ever come close to doing what they did together while apart. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 00:32)

Re: Mariah: The Diva, The Demons, The Drama (87,153) (87,155) by Lee from UK Sorry, Walter wasn't on it. He was on the documentary before talking about AIWFC. Damizza was on it though. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 00:22)

Walter (87,154) by Billy from Greece Mariah has never said that she wrote the song when she was twelve. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 23:03)

Mariah: The Diva, The Demons, The Drama (87,153) by Lee from UK I'm watching the new documentary on Channel 5 in the UK. It has her brother, her sister, Walter, Ben Margulies and every other Tom, Dick and Harry from her past. That famous Mariah look-a-like keeps popping up in dramatised re-enactments. It is making me so mad. I can't stop watching though. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 22:41)

Petals (87,152) by We are Lambily from USA Mariah is the best thing that ever happened to him and if you wrote a biopic today of him, the highlight would be Mariah. Mariah went on the get countless of other legendary achievements without him. This is why Mariah stayed away from him all these years, you can't trust a opportunist, he never really cared for her but at least he saw how talented Mariah was and how far she could take him. He may have worked with all of those artists afterwards, but he hasn't even achieved a quarter of the success he had with Mariah. Which truly means there was no magic with him and now he taking credit for lyrics we all know he never wrote. Can't wait for Mariah's memoir so we can set things straight. I hope since he is talking so much, Mariah doesn't really hold back and goes after him hard. It's a no no for me. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 22:36)

B (87,151) by RibbonB from USA You have my condolences. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 22:21)

Re: Jaker20 (87,147) (87,150) by MusicfanJ from Germany Why should Mariah acknowledge Ariana? MC did acknowledge real artists so many times since day one. And she's still praising other musicians. But should a singer praise every other singer just because they are in the same business? I don't think so. I would never praise a person if I don't like him/her. That's normal. It has nothing to do with insecurity. It's better to say nothing sometimes than saying something positive when it's not true and not heartfelt. Mariah doesn't need to play up to Ariana. Fun fact: I love Julia Roberts. I love her look and her acting. But I can't stand J.Lo for many reasons. Of course everyone has another taste, luckily. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 22:19)

Walter (87,149) by RibbonB from USA He makes some valid points and certainly has a right to express his opinions. Mariah also has a right to tell her story the way she remembers it. As long as he gets paid for his share, then he really shouldn't complain. Mimi likes to focus on what she iikes at any given time. He is not a singer or performer so he will never get her shine, not does he have her responsibiities. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 22:17)

Re: Ariana (87,140) (87,148) by TJ from Norway That's one of the songs I feel she has made before. It could have been on TEOM. We are all different in opinions and stuff. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 21:20)

Re: Jaker20 (87,136) (87,147) by jaker20 from US "Walter A is full of shit. He is angry that since the Butterfly era MC has paid him dust." See this is what I'm taking about. She's also paying Ariana dust because according to you guys she doesn't have to acknowledge her. How is that even a good thing? That's just how someone is projecting their insecurities, which in Mariah's case considering her legend status is just sad. Whether an artist is competition or is "just copying" Mariah should be above it all, because as someone who achieved enormous success and miles away in terms of talent, she is in fact above it all. But insecurity is never a good character, people see through it. Why not produce some of Ariana's songs or new talents like her, or write with young new talents? That's how you embrace competition. Gracefully. It helps you if you're genuinely not bothered by it. Look at how Madonna's fans trolled Lady Gaga and how the tables have turned since. Now look at how Julia Roberts produced JLo's romantic comedies at time when Roberts owned that genre. Apart from the fact that it made Julia very rich, she is rewarded for it. You all need to tone down your insecurities before it bites you back. Its not even good for Mariah's career anyway. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 20:59)

Half a billiion views on YouTube (87,146) by Lafa from Sweden Only 3,1 million views more and All I Want For Christmas Is You will have half a billion views on YouTube. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 18:11)

Re: (87,141) (87,145) by Norman from USA Oh no I'm really sorry to hear that, B. My sincerest condolences to you and your family. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 17:57)

Re: (87,141) (87,144) by Tevin from USA Sorry to hear that B. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 17:32)

Re: (87,141) (87,143) by Tijl from Belgium Sending You love and strength. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 16:18)

Re: (87,141) (87,142) by MusicfanJ from Germany I'm so sorry to hear that B. My deepest condolences. (Wednesday 19 December 2018; 15:48)

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