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Re: Vanishing (87,792) (87,808) by Chicago Lamb from USA I just played "The Roof" for a friend recently and he said, "Wow this is Mariah? It sounds so modern." He liked the song/production and he's not even a fan. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 19:42)

Proceed with caution: Saudi threats (87,807) by Ronnie from California Why is no one talking about the alleged terrorist threats? There are allegations that terrorist groups were planning to break havoc at her concert. Whether or not the allegations are false, it is concerning. Given the circumstances, threats are a possibility that I'm sure Mariah and her team acknowledged prior to signing her up. But now that those allegations have been put out there (regardless of validity), it has the power to inspire others to follow through. It's terrible but it is also the truth. And plus, these parallels are getting ridiculous. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 18:30)

Jussie Smollett (87,806) by Licia from USA I'm so sorry for what Jussie endured. No one deserves this type of treatment. I'm praying for him. There aren't enough curse words to express how I feel about those two cowards who hurt him. Sad that in 2019 stuff like this is still happening. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 17:27)

Re: Okay hooold up now (87,772) (87,805) by Geronimo from USA In response to the entire thread and not QHM in particular, I would like to say that taking an all-or-nothing approach to artists and social consciousness makes no sense. The purpose of selecting and highlighting particular cases of human rights abuses in nations and kingdoms with extreme wealth inequality has to do with being awake, responsible, and dedicated to spreading awareness about the connections between particular abuses in the world and in one's own country while responding to the global economic habits that tie people together. It is more art than science. Since we are not talking about punishing Mariah Carey but questioning her and awaiting her thoughtful response, it is meaningless to say or suggest that unless every artist answers for every performance location choice in terms of the injustices committed in the history of those locations then no social questions can be fair or meaningful. Unfortunately, not everyone is capable of thinking about those things. Some people literally want nothing more from creative artists than escape and catharsis. Clearly many of that type of person is a Mariah Carey fan. Mariah has benefited a great deal, it seems, from remaining quiet but pleasant about issues that her background has not equipped her to address in public. Still, I think U.S. American men and women who are artists that claim to bear a social responsibility and say they care about fairness, tolerance, etc. can rightly be called upon to explain why they choose to entertain royalty universally exposed expanding and covering the kinds of human rights abuses opposed by the historical figures they publicly admire. Mariah Carey respects the legacies of MLK, Nelson Mandela, and the activism (it seems) of Colin Kaepernick. She has also advocated for women to be recognized for their songwriting even if they are not known for performing with non-vocal instruments. So, it is not a case of arbitrary or selective outrage to ask Mariah Carey to explain why she volunteers to perform in a kingdom that opposes the issues she publicly (if generically) supports. It makes sense to wonder if there is a personal disconnect between empty cute optimism and pre-adolescent cliches about individual "Hero"-ism covered in rainbows and butterflies. People certainly get caught up in hypocritical digital heroism and fall in love with their own outrage. But asking a very wealthy Afro-Venezuelan artist born in the United States to join people talking a symbolic stand against the Saudi dynasty while the U.S president tries to exchange dollars for good sense is far from hypocrisy. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 16:43)

JR (87,804) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway What you are talking about was true in the past. Sami and Kven people even have their own parliament now. Not that you won't find Sami people beeing treated badly by someone today, but what you are saying sounds a bit ridiculous to be honest. Maybe you should visit the Northern Norway to see for yourself, not just read in the history books. Comparing how Sami people are treated in Norway today with the conditions in Saudi Arabia is preposterous. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 16:35)

Re: This site Mimi L (87,793) (87,803) by B from USA Congrats, Mimi. Wishing you a lifetime of love and happiness. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 16:08)

Re: Vanishing (87,792) (87,802) by B from USA Have you lost your mind? Everything about The Roof works. It's perfection. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 16:02)

The Roof (87,801) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) The fact that MC was able to sample a popular hip hop track like Mobb Deep Shook Ones part II and make an amazing R&B track that told a hood love tale and the video in my opinion is total heaven I have to disagree with those that said The Roof or Butterfly is overrated without Butterfly we would have not gotten Mariah the artist don't get me wrong MC was already great but Butterfly took that greatness to another level beyond just balladeer Mariah the entire Butterfly era was Mariah artist being born and for some coming alive but for those who feel otherwise I still got love for ya. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 15:57)

Mimi L (87,800) by Dove from United States Congratulations Mimi L. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 15:26)

Re: Vanishing (87,792) (87,799) by 90sMariah from SG The roof is overrated? Wash your [censored] mouth. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 13:28)

Re: Okay hooold up now (87,788) (87,798) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Don't worry, she does your job for you. She never sticks to a concert date in Australia. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 12:30)

Re: This site Mimi L (87,793) (87,797) by Licia from USA Well hell I'm super late. Congratulations. Lol. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 12:04)

Re: Okay hooold up now (87,788) (87,796) by MusicfanJ from Germany But it's a difference if a country has no human rights at all and is living like we still have the middle age. I wouldn't go to a place like that, not even for money. To compare Saudi Arabia with Spain and Australia is ridiculous. Every country has it's own problems for sure, especially with politics. But again, to have no human rights at all is another thing. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 11:52)

Re: Vanishing (87,792) (87,795) by Tijl from Belgium How could you possibly name "The Roof" overrated ? It's a bloody gem. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 11:37)

Re: Mariah please don't do it (87,784) (87,794) by TJ from Norway It's not the first time that Mariah does this, and I think it's crazy that some lambs on this board think it's ok, and at the same time wonder why many people doesn't take her seriously. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 07:11)

Re: This site Mimi L (87,762) (87,793) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Yes ma'am, 9 months ago haha. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 05:40)

Re: Vanishing (87,782) (87,792) by george golden from uk The Roof is overrated. If I must play a track to non fan I would say Underneath The Stars, All In Your Mind and Close My Eyes. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 05:24)

Request: Butterfly (Classic Bossa Nova) (87,791) by Lafa from Sweden I have a small request here. To me, Butterfly (Classic Bossa Nova) is the most beautiful song. I slow down the tempo in audacity, but it causes a lowering of quality (small cuts, scratches). Is there anyone who can do this professionally and succeed? (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 04:50)

Re: Article: Mariah urged by activists to cancel Saudi Arabia concert (87,770) (87,790) by John from USA Joachim: Until reparations are bestowed upon the Sami and Kven communities in Norway, I would hope that you would also lead in discouraging Mariah from ever performing in your country. Much research has been conducted on Sami and Kven communities over the years. However, little has been done on the long-term effects of the government repressive policies on these ethnic groups. The Sami people live with a heritage of repression and abuse, and for many Sami it is about shame, about lack of language and visibility, mental heath and taboos. To a great extent, the same goes for the Kvens, the descendants of 19th century Finnish immigrants. Mariah: Please only perform in a perfect country with perfect people, because we. will. all. be. triggered. SMH. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 04:16)

Ellen and Wendy (87,789) by RibbonB from USA Not sure if my original post attempt went through. I'm hearing that Mimi is no longer appearing on Ellen next week. Since Wendy is still out sick, I am now hearing that Nick Cannon is scheduled to guest host her show on February 4-6th. If Mimi were to finally appear on Wendy, in her absence that would be a twist . I'm sure that's not going to happen. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 02:55)

Re: Okay hooold up now (87,786) (87,788) by John from USA By your reasoning and train thought: If you've ever watched or condoned Mariah performing in Australia, then you are part of the problem too. There are at least 250 known and mapped out massacres of Australian aborigines that occurred from 1780s all the way to as recent as the 1920s by white folk. To this day, they remain displaced, marginalized, underrepresented, and neglected to the point that they have become "fringe dwellers" in their own native country. Please stop Mariah from ever going to Australia, where the murder and oppression of Australian aborigines has occurred for almost three centuries, and where they still remain a neglected demographic by the ruling class (who can afford Mariah's concert tickets, BTW). Virtual heroism makes people feel so good about themselves, doesn't it? If you wanna learn more about the current issues Australian aborigines struggle with here is a link. I'm going to suggest that as part of our battle to address the needs of Australian aborigines, we should discourage Mariah from performing in Australia from now until the day the white conquerors leave Australia to its rightful owners. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 02:39)

Re: Okay hooold up now (87,786) (87,787) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Regardless of what she's doing it for or when she chooses to do it, the main reason of outrage for this on this board seems to be the Saudi of it all. That she gets paid for it, while disappointing, seems to be secondary. Too much focus is placed on the country that only shows how little we know of other troubled countries as well. It is, as mentioned earlier, virtual heroism - selective at that, and tends to come across as disingenuous. (Wednesday 30 January 2019; 00:57)

Re: Okay hooold up now (87,772) (87,786) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia I would have agreed with you a couple of years ago. But now, as much as I love Mariah's music, I think Mariah does things for money, not fans. So whilst the notion of "Mariah Carey performs for Saudi fans" is nice, the reality is more likely "Mariah performs in Saudi Arabia for money". I have seen too many cancellations, too many "I'm 90 minutes late for my show" incidents that would seriously disappoint the 1990s "forget the the ensemble, this is about the fans" Mariah that we once knew. And that's fine - it's always been about the music for me. (Tuesday 29 January 2019; 22:24)

Re: Rainbow / Glitter (87,766) (87,785) by MC1989 from Spain In my opinion, Rainbow is Mariah's worst album. The singles she released are great, and Petals, but the rest of the album is very poor compared to, for instance, Glitter, TEOM or Caution. Glitter is her most underrated album, but the fans know it's a very good album that unfortunately was eclipsed by the movie (bad, but not as bad as they say) that combines great up tempo songs with a clear 80's influence (Didn't Mean To Turn You On , All My Life), with powerful ballads in which she shows some of her best vocals (Lead The Way, Reflections, Never Too Far), and intimate and nostalgic vibes (Twister). (Tuesday 29 January 2019; 21:18)

Re: Mariah please don't do it (87,773) (87,784) by John from USA Please don't go to Spain, either, Mariah. Spain doesn't want to give Catalan separatists the independence they have been clamoring for. Please don't also perform in my country, the US, too, because the US is involved in an illegal war in the Middle East, and still has not given back the land to Native Americans. Please don't go to: [insert country you are currently outraged about here] because of [insert scandalous clutch-your-pearls reason here] then express how good you feel about yourself "speaking up" and "changing the world". I swear, the level of hypocrisy and self-righteousness here. It's like stepping in SJWs-R-Us. (Tuesday 29 January 2019; 20:48)

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