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WNMLAM (87,250) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) A great duet both Michael and MC held their own. The youth and strength in MC's voice is just beyond incredible here. This is just another example of MC's undeniable talent as a singer and much respect to Michael Bolton for blessing MC with a major opportunity so early on in her career. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 23:15)

Re: Walter the retail relic (87,233) (87,249) by jaker20 from US No, Mariah should ignore him. Walter probably can't believe that 20 years after their last collab, Mariah is still making great music and getting some of the best acclaim in her career. Mariah's longevity is insane, look at her Spotify streams. If it was up to Walter, Mariah's career would have ended in 1999 and singing the same ballads that nearly ended her voice. Call me crazy but I actually think Mariah's best music is yet to come in the next decades, because her ability to stay current is a talent in itself. Caution is just the beginning of this journey. If she can continue that level of quality, even with just good-to-ok sales, her legend status will continue to solidify. Because at the end of the day, it is about the music. And the fact that Walter is salty means Mariah should continue to collab with different talents and enrich and expand her artistic journey and not be stuck in a box like Walter. Look I absolutely love that era as much as the next lamb, but being stuck in that era is like being in a college frat or sorority and staying there. That was 25 years ago people, Mariah has many facets in her creativity. And oh Merry Christmas. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 20:26)

Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,234) (87,248) by Hector from Mexico Beautiful. Another Walter Afanasieff song (with Diane Warren). (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 19:55)

Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,234) (87,247) by Bobby A from United States Wow. I am speechless how their voices sound so smoking hot together. That whistle note towards the end was unbelievable. Thank you for posting. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 17:12)

Re: Chanel 5 "documentary" (87,235) (87,246) by RibbonB from USA Thank you, exactly my point. Those nuts are tainted now and for ever IMO. At least as far as speaking on Mimi is concerned. And the sister is on tape whining and crying about asking for her son for money to buy false teeth. I gather he said no and also didn't invite her to his nuptuals. All understandable. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 16:59)

Re: Chanel 5 "documentary" (87,227) (87,245) by B from USA I did. However, sadly there are "fans" who have misconceptions about Mariah. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 16:06)

Re: All I Want For Christmas is You (87,232) (87,244) by B from USA I was really hoping it would become Mariah's 19th #1. Maybe next year. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:57)

Re: Walter the retail relic (87,233) (87,243) by B from USA Agreed. Mariah's always been an R&B singer, she just happened to debut when R&B was considered popular music. Vision of Love topped Billboard's R&B charts before it topped the Hot 100. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:56)

The Crave song (87,242) by B from USA Does anyone else think the Crave song Mariah talked about during the Daydream era and said she wouldn't release because it was full of innuendo eventually turned into Honey? (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:52)

Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,234) (87,241) by B from USA Thanks for sharing. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:49)

Re: Walter the retail relic (87,233) (87,240) by Billy from Greece Excellent post. I agree with everything you said. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:46)

Re: Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,234) (87,239) by Billy from Greece Oh my. I'm dead all over. This is impeccable, spine-tingling, outrageously sizzling performance. My goodness. Thanks so much. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:36)

Spotify (87,238) by SM from Citizen of the World Can "All I Want For Christmas Is You" top Billboard Hot 100 with 10.8 million streams in 1 day? I will never understand the rules for Billboard lol. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:15)

At last (87,237) by MC1989 from Spain The full live performance of Mariah's duet with Michael Bolton has been leaked. [Webmaster: We already know. See the previous message.] (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 15:05)

Merry Christmas (87,236) by Special K from USA I hope everyone had a very Merry Christmas. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 14:55)

Re: Chanel 5 "documentary" (87,227) (87,235) by Special K from USA Interesting how those three snakes failed to mention and discuss why they have a very estranged relationship with Mariah in the present and the producers epic failure to highlight those reasons. Morgan Carey makes me get dry heaves. Seriously. It's like play your role. You are supposed to be the big brotha and protect your sister. You straight up put your sister on blast, call her a witch, take every opportunity you have conducting interviews trash talking your sister but oh now you in this so called documentary acting like you want nothing but the best for your sister with them fake tears. Boy bye with that sh$t. Whatever issues he and Mariah had that caused them to have a falling out was between them two, Morgan "knives in the back big brotha" Carey" needs his ass kicked. I remember watching him on Inside Edition saying he had to move to Italy because he was afraid of Mariah's fans. What a punk. The other two aren't even worth my time to talk sh$t about. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 14:54)

Full - We're Not Making Love Anymore (87,234) by Lafa from Sweden Full performance of "We're Not Making Love Anymore" feat. Michael Bolton (and Mariah) out now. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 12:30)

Re: Walter the retail relic (87,182) (87,233) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I'm late to the party, but Geronimo, yours is the one of the most honest opinions I have read about Mariah and Walter's collaborations. It is easy to assume that the magic they made together is somehow the pinnacle of Mariah's output. That is true to some extent, as many of the tracks they made together are part of Mariah's essential hits. But to claim that nothing that Mariah has ever done outside their partnership has reached those highs, just like someone has opined earlier, is just blasphemous. I wouldn't lend too much credence to Walter's statements. The fact that Mariah is still the influential artist she is while Walter has not thrived outside of the 90s in itself says a lot. No, the 90s wasn't a time when people musically "let loose", not especially for the diva pop singers. That era was quite the opposite, actually - it was uptight and even almost regimented. It was just their carefree vocal performances that were considered an escape and a wonderful contrast to the standard big-voiced diva pop sound that dominated the airwaves. Walter's work with Mariah, while mostly outstanding, was expected of her during the 90s. It was the default sound back then. It was Mariah's input, being the brilliant songwriter she is, that added personal touch to the classic, overwrought big ballad and elevated it to an art form that gifted interpreters such as Whitney, Toni and Celine simply cannot touch. It was their collaborations that deviated from the norm (Underneath The Stars, Fourth of July, Dreamlover) that actually deserves more credit. Mariah is a very versatile artist, as once again demonstrated in Caution, with the uncanny ability of working with producers with very varied, distinct styles whilst maintaining her signature sound. But she also was a woman who had to fight really hard to get any creative say on her earlier sound. She was also around when hip-hop was in its infancy. She witnessed firsthand how it blossomed and became the prevalent force it is today. So to dismiss Mariah's transition to hip-hop and R&B as inauthentic and solely a survival instinct, as someone else has posted earlier on this board, is just ridiculous. Mariah's move towards hip-hop is as organic and unforced as it gets. The Fantasy remix proved that. The Butterfly album furthered it. Even the much maligned Rainbow album which saw her fully dabble into urban felt like a natural progression. It is easy to place Mariah's earlier, cheesier and more saccharine material often rife with platitudes and cliches on a pedestal because they were the big, inescapable hits. Back then, even her obscure album tracks were hits on their own way just because of Mariah's faultless vocal performances and then-untouchable star power; the same way Adele's entire 21 and 25 albums were revered track-by-track because of her immense popularity, when frankly, a closer look of the material would reveal that not all of them are as great as we paint them out to be. It's almost a crime to say anything bad about the Afanasieff years, when in fact many of the more interesting tracks in the albums he had a heavier hand in crafting were the songs that he did not produce (Always Be My Baby, Babydoll, Honey, Never Forget You, Melt Away, Fantasy, The Wind, Make It Happen, Breakdown, etc.) In contrast, Mariah's latter post-Afanasieff material is almost automatically deemed inferior because they feature more hushed, weaker vocal performances, have less traditional writing and less instantly distinguishable melodies and arrangements, but mostly because they are less popular. There was a time when the Mariah-Walter formula worked so well. That time has passed. It's unfair to compare songs made during entirely different decades and musical landscapes. There is no way to objectively compare Portrait to Looking In, Hero to Through the Rain, Without You to I Wanna Know What Love Is, no matter how similar they seem. Implying that Mariah has transitioned into R&B & hip-hop and other "trendier" genres out of necessity more than anything is probably the most arrogant way one can downplay her artistic credibility. Just saying. Happy Holidays, y'all. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 12:20)

Re: All I Want For Christmas is You (87,228) (87,232) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines As great as that is, I think it could be a #1 next year. As for this year, it just fell a spot to #7, and while this new record does count for something, the song rapidly falls of all charts shortly after December 25, so we'll see how this plays out come the new charts next week. Merry Christmas, y'all. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 09:58)

Merry Christmas (87,231) by Mara from United States Merry Christmas to the MC Archives family. I hope you all had a wonderful day with family and friends and I'm sure it included Mariah in the background as well. (Wednesday 26 December 2018; 06:55)

Merry Christmas to everyone (87,230) by IheartMC from USA Hey guys, wishing you all a happy and healthy Merry Christmas. Please check out this cover of my friend covering the beautiful Have Yourself a Merry Christmas. I dedicate this to all of you. He is a huge lamb too. Much love to you all. (Tuesday 25 December 2018; 18:21)

Merry Christmas (87,229) by Bobby A from United States I want to take this time to wish everybody a Merry Christmas. I hope everybody has a wonderful Christmas day with family and friends. (Tuesday 25 December 2018; 16:37)

All I Want For Christmas is You (87,228) by B from USA "All I Want For Christmas Is You" by Mariah Carey has broken the Spotify record for the most streams in a single day with over 10.8 million streams. The previous record was held by XXXTentacion's "Sad" with 10.4 million streams on June 19th. AIWFCIY just might become Mariah 19th #1 on the Hot 100. (Tuesday 25 December 2018; 15:47)

Re: Chanel 5 "documentary" (87,226) (87,227) by RibbonB from USA What misconceptions do you think people have? I assume you mean non fans? For most fans the three main attention grabbers are cause for concern. How do three people who've recently called her a witch and devil offer any credibility? They wouldn't get paid to slander Mimi, so they play the concerned snakes in the grass, to get a moment on tv. (Tuesday 25 December 2018; 15:39)

Re: Chanel 5 "documentary" (87,202) (87,226) by B from USA I just watched the documentary and if more people would watch it they'd probably lose their misconceptions of Mariah and gain a better understanding of who she is and why she is who she is. Parts of it made me cry but it's probably my emotional state at the moment. (Tuesday 25 December 2018; 13:04)

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