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Mariah, Mariah, Mariah (87,038) by B from USA
Glitter hit #1 on iTunes, Caution debuted at #1 on Billboard's R&B Albums chart, and Merry Christmas replaced Caution at #1 on the R&B Albums chart the following week adding another record to Mariah's already impressive list of accolades and achievements. I almost forgot to mention that All I Want For Christmas is You has reached an even higher peak on the Hot 100. Mariah isn't stupid, she's not going to promote Caution during the holiday season. In January she'll release the A No No remix and resume promoting Caution. Let's focus on the positives. Mariah new team has somehow managed to make Mariah likeable again which seemed impossible at this time last year.
(Friday 14 December 2018; 17:23)
AIWFCIY playlist (87,037) by Norman from USA
Hello all. I made a playlist that I thought might be helpful for any of you that might want to stream the song in the background or overnight. I usually leave it on overnight with the headphones plugged in, and the volume set very low (not mute).

Every other song on here is AIWFCIY, with all the rest of the songs being from either her Christmas albums or the Caution album. I figured it couldn't hurt to get some extra streams in there. Please feel free to share with anyone who might enjoy doing this, too. Cheers.
(Friday 14 December 2018; 13:22)
Re: Article: "Lip Sync Battle" debuts season 5 trailer with Mariah (87,035) (87,036) by B from USA
It's not that deep.
(Friday 14 December 2018; 12:30)
Article: "Lip Sync Battle" debuts season 5 trailer with Mariah (87,035) by 90sMariah from SG
I don't think it's a good idea to be associating yourself to lip syncing especially when you are being accused of it constantly. This is just opening more doors to mockery.
(Friday 14 December 2018; 04:12)
Re: Lip sync battle (87,015) (87,034) by Licia from USA
I just saw the little clip of her. This is the perfect opportunity for her to just let loose. She's around two people she likes and is comfortable with. This shouldn't be an awkward situation. I'm hoping for the best. That entrance is way dramatic, but I'm not surprised. Mariah was just Mariahing. It's totally normal. Lol I love this show.
(Friday 14 December 2018; 02:40)
Mariah in Leeds (87,033) by John john from UK
I was fortunate to see Mariah this year at Leeds. I thought she was great. Show seemed to be better than the year before. I took my sister who (like me) she's had been a fan for many many years. She cried as she's never seen her before and thought she sounded amazing. She loved Hero. In fact the whole stadium went mental. I've never seen that reaction before from an UK audience. Overall I'd give her 9/10 she looked amazing too. Side note I got to meet Bryan Tanaka too, he was such a gentleman and came back to have a photo with me and my sister. I liked that as he could have just forgot about us and gone back stage. What ever is happening in Mariah's life she seems to be happier and smiling more.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 20:36)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,016) (87,032) by RibbonB from USA
Mariah could absolutely use and benefit from an extended break. Don't worry, she's unlikely to take one, because she's going, going, going for the past several years now. She seems to want the money, the attention, etc. Time away is the very thing she needs,but she will keep touring to feed her hired sycophants and her own ego.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 18:50)
Mariah: The Diva, The Demons, The Drama (87,031) by Bill from the UK
Attention UK dwellers. Channel 5 have a Mariah Carey evening on Wednesday 19th December from 8pm onwards.

Schedule:
8pm: Christmas with Mariah Carey: general celebration of MC and her everlasting holiday hit.
9pm: The Diva, The Demons, The Drama: biopic focusing around the Glitter debacle. Trailer had interviews with Alison so should be interesting.
11pm: A Christmas Melody: re-run of MC's film.

Can't wait.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 18:32)
Re: Caution (87,028) (87,030) by enwar00 from usa
100% that is the song I heard in Caution since the first time I listened to it. Then it was crazy hearing Mariah say she made the song in the Bahamas, since that is where Aaliyah died. Made me wonder what if spiritually there was a connection there.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 16:51)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,022) (87,029) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
As I read in one of the articles here, the journalist wrote that Mariah seemed happy and contempt with just releasing new music and comfortable not having hits or commercial success. They seem to want her name associated with good critics and quality, and as a lamb, I'm happy with that aswell. She is still capable of scoring a hit, but it happens with a 24 years old song. Imagine, this song is now as popular at the moment as "Obsessed" in 2009, and next week AIWFCIY will probably get even higher on the Hot 100. I actually think it has a chance to be her 19th #1.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 15:54)
Caution (87,028) by B from USA
I've seen several comments on YouTube saying Caution, the song not the album, sounds like Aaliyah's We Need A Resolution.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 15:32)
Releases (87,027) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
To answer your question Robert Anthony, yes she has released albums in November and we must remember that from where MC was about 3 years compared to right now is a major step in the right direction. To be honest I am pleased she is getting her recognition from critics and her respect as a songwriter after all these years which something she has always wanted. Also she released a great body of work even when many fans doubted her which is an achievement in itself. Yeah she may not get the chart success this era but I am happy that she has her confidence back and she gave great memories this year that outweighed the bad. So no complaints on my watch.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 13:58)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,011) (87,026) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Funny how we always wish the album was longer when it's really mostly just us fans who are patient enough to sit through anything Mariah that's over 45 minutes. That's understandable, though, because as fans, we just want more material, period. But Mariah's fanbase only accounts for a small fraction of today's music-consuming public. Caution's running time actually is perfect for today's generation. It's just the right length for streaming. Quality over quantity will always win.

On this board, it's common to see these wishes for Mariah to work with past producers again as if getting back together would automatically guarantee great output. Despite the magic she and Walter have made in the past, Mariah clearly has her personal reasons to not collaborate with him. Regardless of what they are and if they're valid or just plain silly, I'd rather respect that than force her to work with someone she isn't comfortable with or ready to.

I don't think Mariah should be releasing old stuff from the vault just yet, especially if she is still very much capable of creating impressive new material. Knowing how much Mariah's voice has changed over the years, if she does revisit and release some songs from the past, I'd rather have her re-record them to feature her current voice. There's nothing wrong with releasing rarities. I just don't want the compilation to end up like MJ's posthumous albums - disjointed, overproduced, strictly for the nostalgia and just very random.

Look, we get it - it sucks to see a good album fall off the face of the earth so fast, but it is what it is. Yes, her team did commit some mistakes in the album's promotion, but I believe they still one hell of a great job; something that would never have happened if Stella was still in charge. Let's face it: the true highlight and biggest accomplishment of this year is making Mariah likeable again. Of course we still have quite the ways to go but considering how seemingly hopeless her situation was a year and a half ago, the progress she and her team has made so far is remarkable. The great album is merely a bonus, and I'm more than happy with that.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 13:47)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,016) (87,025) by Licia from USA
Edward I agree that the team did wonders with her image. She's at least likeable again. I was tired of that ditzy, mean person she created. I also think the team did a pretty good job of trying to make Caution successful. They probably knew beforehand that the charts weren't going to be in her favor, but they still tried. Considering her age and the fact that she does not have her old selling power many would have abandoned her once the singles didn't chart.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 12:50)
Miss You Most At Christmas Time (her saddest song) (87,024) by Sheila from United States
The song is the complete opposite of AIWFC. But it is indeed beautiful and I wish she showed it a little more love. It's not festive but it's beautiful.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 12:24)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,022) (87,023) by Licia from USA
All I have been wanting from her is quality music and that's exactly what I got with Caution. Her falling off the charts means nothing to me. I wasn't a chart chasing fan when she was always on top and I'm not one now. I'd love for her to be able to still make those 90's chart moves, but she's not and her chart position isn't going to keep me from loving the album. People who loved the album in the beginning shouldn't stop loving it because it fell down the charts. *shrugs*
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 10:55)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,011) (87,022) by darrian liu from taiwan
If they wanted a commercially successful album, Mariah would've loaded the album with more tracks (although that would compromise the quality of the album). Her team would have staged a rollout campaign aggressively focused in streaming services, like Spotify and Apple Music. They would have to release the singles with the most recognizable features as the lead (a wise choice would be a remix of A No No with Cardi B and Lil Kim, which I'm still waiting on despite of my dislike of Cardi, followed by The Distance). The bundles that she did was great. Nowadays, you have to focus on streaming. We in the under 18 and 18-24 group don't really listen to the radio anymore, although I would say that radio is crucial for longevity. For the initial debut though, streaming is where it's at. I do get the feeling that her team's main focus was damage control, a subtle image change (notice how all the interviews have been centered on her songwriting, how she toned down the shade and usual diva jokes?) and critical acclaim, and they didn't have any expectations for commercial success. But yeah, I gotta agree, Mariah's hit making days are pretty much over (I hope she proves me wrong). And I don't have a problem with that. Not anymore.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 09:25)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,011) (87,021) by Bill from the UK
Well you've certainly changed your tune.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 08:04)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,011) (87,020) by TJ from Norway
I wonder if this album is dead by the lambs as well, now that it doesn't do well on the charts? What was wrong? Who screwed Mariah?
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 07:48)
Re: Miss You Most At Christmas Time (87,013) (87,019) by Susana from USA
Yes, one of my favorite songs of hers no matter the season.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 05:54)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,014) (87,018) by B from USA
At least it hasn't fallen off completely. What is it on the Billboard Albums chart? Is #23 on Billboard's R&B Albums chart. With You is still at #9 on the Adult R&B Songs chart. Next month Mariah and Epic will begin promoting Caution again with the A No No remix. They ceased promotion to focus on Merry Christmas and All I Want For Christmas is You which Epic/Sony released.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 04:25)
Re: (87,008) (87,017) by B from USA
To clarify the ones without a # did not list the albums numerically or in any particular order.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 04:24)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,011) (87,016) by Edward from USA
Here we go again blaming everybody for Mariah's commercial flops. When will we stop blaming everybody and realize that Mariah is not popular anymore when it comes to her music, and that it doesn't matter if the album is great or when it was released. Of course they knew there was a chance Mariah's Christmas music would cannibalize Caution's sales, but I think it was a great move since nobody is focusing on the flop at the moment because Mariah is riding high on her Christmas success, and with a potential new top 5. In the current music scene you can't just disappear for four years and expect people to remember you when you come back, it hasn't worked like that in ages. Caution is a good album in my opinion, but what she's known for, her big voice, it's basically non-existent on this album, not even on some songs. Since that live feed was leaked from that performance of AIWFCIY, the reign of Stella, and her New Year's lipping fail, she's lost much of the respect people had for her as a vocalist and that shows greatly with the reception of this great album. I suggest some of you focus on the music, enjoy, and stop blaming those who have given Mariah the best public perception she's had in many many years, it's not their fault she's flopping commercially. She hired Stella, she went through with Mariah's World, she was the one shading people and acting as if she was better than anybody else, now it's going to take time and work for her to recover some of what she lost. If Mariah takes another four year break with the way her voice keep deteriorating, she'll be selling 10K copies next time. Mariah needs to be in the spotlight again for her music not for her boobs and crazy diva persona.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 03:58)
Re: Lip sync battle (87,012) (87,015) by RibbonB from USA
Yeah have fun with it. JD is there to hype her up too. Her entrance looked a little "Vegasy" though. Lol. I'm not a fan of the show, but I've seen a few episodes before and they can be fun.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 02:02)
Re: Caution drops to #163 on Billboard 200 albums chart (87,011) (87,014) by SM from Citizen of the World
Rainbow and #1's were released in November. Not sure about any others.
(Thursday 13 December 2018; 01:15)

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