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Caution World Tour (87,977) by Bobby A from United States I hope MC performs at least 8 songs from Caution and the other 8 songs from her vast catalogue. She just owes Lambs more than 3 songs from Caution. February 27 Dallas show is approaching fast. The Dallas venue is a new concert hall that opened last year and is located in Irving, Texas. It will be my first time there. Typically, her first show is never her best. We will see on February 27th. (Saturday 9 February 2019; 17:25)

Re: A No No ft Cardi, Lil Kim and Elliott (87,964) (87,976) by jaker20 from US This song won't go anywhere if we get an album version. Let's be real, radio don't play her anymore and she really isn't cool anymore with the young kids. The only way this song will get noticed is a collab. I can do without Elliott to be honest though. But yeah she needs to up her art to get this song out there, because it's a great great song. But honestly I am not sure Mariah knows how to promote the album. (Saturday 9 February 2019; 13:28)

Re: The real Mariah (87,972) (87,975) by MusicfanJ from Germany Agree. Nobody can force such great melodies. It was her just like the other genre as well. I think Mariah has her unique mark on every song, no matter if it's pure RNB, Soul, Gospel or Pop. That's one thing (among many others) I love about her. (Saturday 9 February 2019; 10:44)

Jewels memoirs (87,974) by Dove from United States I read Jewel's book a few months back (Never Broken: Songs Are Only Half the Story) and I remember thinking as I was reading it that I really hope Mariah's book is similar. It feels authentic and has stories about her life that most people didn't know and talks about the songs and how they relate to her life. Sometimes we interpret a song a certain way (as it relates to us) but it meant something completely different to the person who wrote it. I recommend it, it's a good read if you like these sorts of books. I do. (Saturday 9 February 2019; 02:18)

Re: Butterfly (87,958) (87,973) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Sure, we really don't know what Mariah's true life story is - we probably never will. Unless she really spills everything out in her upcoming memoirs (which I fear won't be the case and will instead be a contrived and sanitized affair) we can only put together a picture combining what we've heard of her on various media and what leaks out in her music, but there has always been a consistent narrative we can derive from it all. Although she has rarely corroborated such especially for the extremely personal parts, this story still makes sense somehow and mostly explains why she is how she is today. Side Effects and other rare controversial interviews aside, Mariah doesn't really paint Tommy as the devil because she acknowledges and appreciates the good he has done for her career. Her first 6 years was the best start she could have ever been given and at least half of that is thanks to Tommy. Who knows what could have happened if she decided to stay with him - Butterfly and Rainbow would have been completely different albums and there may not have been a Glitter. But recalling the direction the music industry was heading towards post mid-90s, the same winning formula would not have worked as well. Whitney and Celine stuck to their schtick and struggled to remain relevant through the 2000s and that says something about their role in steering their own careers. Mariah, on the other hand, had a better vision of her career trajectory and saw the signs as early as the late 90s - she knew pop was going urban and even Latin, and she gave us a respectable taste of those without sacrificing much of her signature sound. She was more resilient, and she could owe some of that to Tommy. You're right as well - it's truly a miracle that Mariah, despite not having full creative control of her sound and lyrical themes during those early years, was able to ensure that her final output was of high quality even if she didn't necessarily like some of the material or the people she worked with. Listening to her entire discography in the order of their release truly reveals how she has slowly but surely gained control and confidence in her sound. It's really a beautiful thing to witness such artistic evolution, which was more than enough to make up for her waning vocal abilities. I guess this also proves that no Mariah album is a throwaway. Everything that happened was meant to be and was chronicled excellently by each essential release, and each phase beautifully led to the next part of her musical journey. We are so lucky to have an autobiographical artist like her who, even in her most impersonal material, is still way more revealing than most artists' best attempts at self-expression. We're even luckier that she has a better head on her shoulders than most stars especially of her caliber, and that despite her crazy tendencies and missteps and the world's countless attempts to turn her into the next Hollywood tragedy, she's still standing and was able to make something as special as Caution when most of her colleagues would have been jaded churning out one similar bland album after the next. (Saturday 9 February 2019; 01:10)

The real Mariah (87,972) by Dove from United States The real Mariah is in the songs. Maybe she wasn't singing her first choice genre on Music Box (for example) but she still wrote those lyrics and those melodies. All those "Mariahs" are different sides of her. (Saturday 9 February 2019; 00:42)

Re: One Child live 2018 (87,965) (87,971) by Hector from Mexico I love One Child from Christmas in Washington. (Saturday 9 February 2019; 00:33)

Re: Butterfly (87,966) (87,970) by Bill from the UK Your original reply was very well said and I also agree with this point. All Chris' posts are unfortunately a lot of clap trap formed by his own perception of events. But opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. (Friday 8 February 2019; 21:21)

Re: One Child live 2018 (87,967) (87,969) by MusicfanJ from Germany That's true. "Mariah could sing the phone book", yup I would buy that phone book. Haha. I also loved her ringtones. (Friday 8 February 2019; 17:34)

Re: Butterfly (87,940) (87,968) by Terna from Nigeria Interesting post but I don't agree with your analysis of the Butterfly album and era at all. If anything it's rather the opposite of what you're insinuating here. Mariah's early years were so controlled, doctored and supervised so to speak to a fault that I remember her saying that she was even instructed on how to speak in her interviews without giving away too much personality - in other words she couldn't be herself. How stifling that must've been. Even her sound was controlled in order to sound like a new Whitney Houston so to speak (especially on the first album). Her hair, ensembles and the whole Mariah Carey image at the beginning really wasn't the real Mariah at all. I applaud Mariah for rebelling and insisting on carving out her own path and most importantly following her Heart. Both "Daydream" and "Butterfly" are truly the real Mariah, and her core as an artist as she has remained the same pretty much ever since. I'm just glad that we have those two albums as a snapshot of the transition in a time when Mariah dared to be different and go against the tide, being so young with so much uncertainty. So there's nothing fake nor pretentious about that album as you implied if anything that's her true emancipation. She must be very proud looking back now as we her true Lambily are too. The "Butterfly" era is Mariah's "Magnum Opus", it is also where her longevity and relevance in this cutthroat music industry years to come was sealed. (Friday 8 February 2019; 16:40)

Re: One Child live 2018 (87,965) (87,967) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway That clip gave me the chills. Look, people here can say whatever they want about Mariah not being able to hit the high notes anymore, but that litte segment shows Mariah's musicality. Does anybody else just sing some tunes and make it this beautiful to listen to? It's hard to explain why exactly I so much love to listen to Mariah sing, but with that litte clip you can be sure Mariah could sing the phone book and you would still be touched. Just look at the back up singers in the background, they are just smiling, mesmerized, just like me watching this. Mariah's voice has that x factor you only can feel within your body. (Friday 8 February 2019; 14:30)

Re: Butterfly (87,963) (87,966) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Exactly. It was something I forgot to address in my response to him. It also seemed to be one of the main points of his post, which is even more disappointing. I get that a diverse, non-gender specific fanbase such as MJ's and Marvin Gaye's is the ideal for any artist aiming for longevity, but there's absolutely nothing wrong in not being able to keep a significant straight male fanbase in favor of a predominantly female or gay one. That was completely beyond Mariah's control. Similarly, Mariah was not entirely responsible for "abandoning" her more conservative fans. She blossomed out of self-expression. It's not like she deliberately pushed them away by becoming a sex symbol in her efforts to appeal to males like that was a main priority. This fan gender profiling thing is completely unnecessary and sexist, but if we were to really go there, then let's at least get things closer to what's really going on. Not to perpetuate any stereotypes, but realistically, if anything, it's the females and especially the gay fans who will typically remain extremely loyal and grow old with her. I mean Cher and Madonna are not the untouchable powerhouses they once were but they still are very much around and still make headlines, especially in a sexist and ageist industry. They mostly owe that to their gay icon status. But regardless of gender, we are all blessed to have stuck as long as we have. Here's to us. (Friday 8 February 2019; 11:28)

One Child live 2018 (87,965) by ldyer from England That peculiar resonance never leaves. No matter the era. (Friday 8 February 2019; 04:28)

Re: A No No ft Cardi, Lil Kim and Elliott (87,959) (87,964) by Shezz from Pk I'm worried we're just going to get the album version in the end as well. This all star collab seems way too good to be true. I'm not getting hopes up - I'd rather be surprised than disappointed. Although Lil Kim's manager, who posted on instagram last year that the remix is happening, posted Billboard's article of A No No being released in March and tagged Missy, Kim and Cardi - saying it's coming. If all of them are supposedly keeping the remix a secret, why is he/she letting it out? Maybe it's a fake account. I wouldn't even a mind a cut and paste job because the song is great as it is. It would benefit from thr rap add ons as is. Fingers crossed. (Friday 8 February 2019; 04:26)

Re: Butterfly (87,940) (87,963) by Myles from CT, USA I seriously almost puked at this post. I respect your opinion but really? I am sure Mariah has somehow survived knowing that "straight guys" are no longer following her. Seriously? That's the last opinion I hope she cares about. (Friday 8 February 2019; 02:25)

Ellen? (87,962) by Myles from CT, USA Wasn't Mariah supposed to be on Ellen this week? What happened to that? (Friday 8 February 2019; 02:09)

Tommy (87,961) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Tommy has come to terms with what he did to Mariah earlier on in her career was not cool because he apologized during the press tour for his book in 2013. He also credited Mariah with making him appreciate the art of songwriting as he said her songwriting abilities are what make her an even better artist. We must all admit that both Tommy and Mariah were beneficial to one another. (Friday 8 February 2019; 00:47)

Help (87,960) by Xavier C from USA Where do I find my posts? (Friday 8 February 2019; 00:27)

Re: A No No ft Cardi, Lil Kim and Elliott (87,945) (87,959) by Hector from Mexico I think A No No will be released as a single without Cardi B and Missy. By the way, I listen to The Distance at least once a day. I do not get tired of that song. (Thursday 7 February 2019; 22:40)

Re: Butterfly (87,949) (87,958) by TJ from Norway I guess that either way, how it was, we don't know the whole story about who is the true Mariah. I also believe that we wouldn't know Mariah as we now do, if it wasn't for the pre Butterfly years. I'm just glad she made those extremely good albums in that area. Wow, what a sound and voice. Who knows what kind of artist she would have been today if Tommy didn't give her that contract back then. (Thursday 7 February 2019; 21:30)

Re: A No No ft Cardi, Lil Kim and Elliott (87,945) (87,957) by jaker20 from US Why are they doing this to me. This needs to happen asap. (Thursday 7 February 2019; 20:24)

Royal Albert Hall (87,956) by Will from England Ever since I watched Adele's show at the RAH on YouTube, I've always wanted Mariah to perform there. It looks like such an intimate setting and with its history of music performances, as soon as I saw that she was performing there, I knew I had to get tickets. This will be my third show and looking forward to this one quite a bit. (Thursday 7 February 2019; 19:40)

Re: Andrew (87,934) (87,955) by Hector from Mexico Right. That will never happen to With You. (Thursday 7 February 2019; 19:22)

John and Mariah (87,954) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I would love a John Legend and Mariah Carey duet album. Lots of piano, strings, orchestra, their beautiful voices melting together. I think they could make magic together. When Christmas Comes duet version wasn't enough for me. Someone also mentioned on this board, Mariah seems to feel very comfortable working with an orchestra, so I think her output would be great. (Thursday 7 February 2019; 18:36)

Re: Mariah / Super Bowl (87,948) (87,953) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Lol. I only said she should where pants, Mariah looks amazing in pants and body suits IMO. I've also been to some Mariah concerts where she moves freely and easily around the stage having a blast, and then I've been to other concerts where she stands on the X-mark the entire show (a performance like the Super Bowl needs the former, given the nature of that massive venue and audience). One of Mariah's signature and most iconic Mariah hair is the massive huge curls. I'm not sure where in my comment you felt I was re-imagining who MC is and expecting something that's not her? Everything I mentioned is the same Mariah we've seen many times before. Remember this is a hypothetical "if" Mariah were to play the Super Bowl. I'm well aware Mariah is in on the "diva glamour" persona, and lives that up and has fun playing that up. You're right it ain't that serious (Thursday 7 February 2019; 18:19)

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