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Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,554) (75,571) by darrian liu from taiwan Yes, tabloids and media still talk about Mariah, which makes her relevant as a celebrity, but not as a musical artist. Well I guess you could say she's still relevant, but not in the way that is beneficial to her reputation and image. Her relevance as a musical artist has diminished so much since 2013. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 09:18)

Manchester (75,570) by darrian liu from taiwan My heart goes to those living in Manchester, and whose family members, friends or relatives attended Ariana Grande's concert, as well as the Arianators. Please, stay safe and be optimistic. Those bombers got nothing on us if we're all united. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 09:06)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,554) (75,569) by Bill from the UK She's not relevant anymore. She hasn't had a hit in years. I remember overhearing colleagues at work talking about her after the NYE disaster. They were all in their 30s and would have grown up with her music during the 90s. The conversation was peppered with comments like "I didn't even realise she was still singing" and "her last album was the We Belong Together one ten years ago" and "she only comes out at Christmas to sing AIWFCIY". The fact is MC has done so much damage to her brand and reputation in recent years that her only choices are to either clean house and have one last all-out attempt to right the ship, or continue on down the path she's on and fade into obscurity and cult fandom. It's pretty clear what decision she's made. I really don't think there is any coming back from where she is now. No one likes the diva behaviour, the catty comments, the brushing off of the horrific performances, the opulent unrelatable lifestyle, the diamonds, the splashes, the in-your-face trashy sexiness, the plastic surgery. People liked the big haired, big voiced girl from Long Island, who was humble and sincere and grateful. That girl who recorded her demos in a woodshop. She's now a caricature of what she was, like Zsa Zsa Gabor or some other faded silver screen starlet. What a waste of a God given talent. Never before witnessed something squandered right before my eyes in such a manner. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 07:22)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,554) (75,568) by Randy from USA I appreciate your fandom Terna. But you cannot seriously think MC is relevant to a contemporary audience? My biggest problem with you has been that you see nothing shaking during an earthquake. I remember after the NYE performance, you said "she has bronchitis; nothing to see here folks". And while that was not the death of her career, it was one more blemish that keeps her from getting the necessary respect from an artist of her caliber. I hang out with a lot of diva fans and they consider MC a studio singer. That stabs me because I remember a time when Mary J Blige, Janet Jackson and Ashanti were all considered studio singers. The fact that MC is given the same moniker kills me but I have no receipts to back up her as a vocalist here late. And the fact that she is dating her backup dancer fresh off a highly publicized breakup fresh off a publicized divorce seems like something she would've never done in 2006 let alone the Daydream era. Add to the fact that she wears her clothes in order to have a nip slip, has rappers in her songs and she's 47 and has allowed her manager and kids to feed off of the carcass of her career and I'm like who is this woman? But Terna dude keep on with the hear no evil, see no evil. It's sweet. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 06:53)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,551) (75,567) by Stacey from USA Nope because then I wouldn't have the gems known as TOEM, E=MC2, and MIAM. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 05:02)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,548) (75,566) by Stacey from USA Dude, the whole diaper age thing was a joke. You do realize that, right? Things here ain't that deep. Second, your cracks, digs at me or anyone else only make you look silly. Bashing Daydream to take a dig at me? Wait a minute, aren't you the dedicated fan we all should be like, lol? True MC fans love Daydream. Third, would you like me to pop in MIAM again? I just recently changed to Butterfly from TEOM. Before that I had MIAM playing. My kids love the You Don't Know song as they call it (YDKWTD) and ask for it repeatedly in the car. I oblige them on that request because it's a great song from a great CD. Current enough for you? But you knew all that before you responded, right? See, the difference between you and me is I don't tell you how to think. I don't question your dedication because we disagree on something. That would be foolish of me to judge someone having never met. So let us fans do us and you do you, and leave the judging for The Voice. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 05:01)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,546) (75,565) by Stacey from USA Exactly Lila. Well said. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 04:47)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,550) (75,564) by Stacey from USA Oops, I started something, lol. In all due seriousness, I've learned to let a lot roll off my shoulders. But when people have the gall to question someone's dedication, I have a hard time staying quiet. I would never do that to someone else. Why you ask? Only a fool would judge another person having never met said person. Honestly it never ceases to amaze me. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 04:46)

Re: Why do we die hards stick around? (75,553) (75,563) by Stacey from USA Haha, ok Special K, you are awesome. I love it. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 04:43)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,544) (75,562) by Mara from United States Perfectly said Stacey. Right there with you all. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 03:57)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,550) (75,561) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha mess. Special K, you're awesome. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 03:42)

Stella spin machine (75,560) by RibbonB from USA So here is how E network is spinning the mess today. But funny M. and team went to great lengths to announce "Snake" is still in her employ and set up a fake dinner date, with paps present in a half empty restaurant. All that to say "nothing to see here" SMH I'm sure Evil network is deciding to renew Circus Word 2 as we speak, or trying to figure out how to spin a new season. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:41)

Everyone fanning over Celine (75,559) by T from USA There are tons of pictures of celebs, like Drake etc. in Celine Dion's dressing room showing her love and respect. I just thought about this compared to Mariah and I don't think MC would want a room full of younger acts "bowing" down to her and stuff. Mariah seems very uncomfortable with her fame to this date and she really only likes to hang with her inner circle. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:41)

Re: Why do we die hards stick around? (75,553) (75,558) by Licia from USA I really can't answer this question. It's never been so hard for me to stop supporting an artist as it has been with Mariah. I guess I just hold on to the hope that eventually get her crap together. I know she can do better. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:38)

I would've been happy if Mariah retired (75,557) by T from USA Before you jump down my throat, here [sic] me out. I would've been happier if she retired after #1's to Infinity if it meant she didn't go down this route. No NYE disaster. I would've been okay with a twenty five year flawless career. I don't want her going thirty five years but the last ten are going to be a laughing stock. No thank you. I respect her and her talent way to much to see her degrade herself any further. Now that being said, had she continued with the work ethic of at least the Memoirs era and a great NYE performance then I wouldn't mind if she continued. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:28)

Re: Why do we die hards stick around? (75,553) (75,556) by RibbonB from USA Because unconditional love, is love despite condition, despite the delusional lambs who seem to feel it is love with no conditions. Lol, well that is my quick take. I'm like Mimi girl I still love you, but you are acting a sloppy butthole mess rn. Many are just saying yaaaas queen, do you, just be a happy sloppy mess. I even get that, but when I see those highly paid snakes called employees and enablers I will drag them for the filthy dogs they are, at every turn. Lol. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:21)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,546) (75,555) by RibbonB from USA Exactly, Lila. The little delulu lambies are fairly vocal encouraging the nonsense. If it were not so sad it would be laughable. Did you see the viral video of the sea lion snatching the little girl into the water? Why did I envision Stella and slugs at that moment? Lol. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:13)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,552) (75,554) by Terna from Nigeria Depends on how you define the word relevant? According to my understanding of that word "relevant" a dictionary definition defines it as "of contemporary interest" which she still more than qualifies for. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 01:46)

Why do we die hards stick around? (75,553) by Special K from USA Why in the hell do we die hards stick around? Why? I mean who the hell is more crazier? Fans who put up with Mariah's BS and say she can do no wrong or us die hard fans who call Mariah out on her BS but still support her whether it be seeing her in concert, buying her records, even running a world wide website, etc, etc. Why? Why is we still here gosh darn it. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 01:43)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,551) (75,552) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Of course not, but that's not why I replied. You said that Mariah is still relevant, when it's clear she isn't. And no one can deny that, not even you. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 01:34)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,549) (75,551) by Terna from Nigeria Or would you rather she retired? Say at the Glitter era and just gave up. Yeah you would've liked that now wouldn't you? (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 01:29)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,548) (75,550) by Special K from USA Someone get me some popcorn and a coke zero. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 01:26)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,548) (75,549) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands "We're almost 30 years into her career and she has done well by still pushing forward and staying relevant." You're kidding, right? (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 01:21)

Re: Mariah loosing a lot of fans thread (75,544) (75,548) by Terna from Nigeria Surely you can't be referring to me. I turned 34 last Wednesday (I may not look it though). I too have been here supporting Mariah for well over two decades. Since I was in my early teens, yes since the 90's. Didn't we all do an age check here recently? I didn't see any babies here. So I have every right to question some of you guys. Bickering and complaining at every chance you get, over issues that shouldn't warrant such. Like you were new fans and she was still in her prime. It doesn't make sense. Grow up. Have you noticed the state the music industry has sunken to lately, this isn't the 90's anymore. Heck this isn't even the 2000's anymore. We're almost 30 years into her career and she has done well by still pushing forward and staying relevant. What is it you truly want from her that all she's done still isn't good enough. Free yourself from that Daydream era time warp you're stuck in and live in the now. Time has moved forward, and so has she. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 00:59)

Fan base / Breakdown (75,547) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) First things first. Breakdown in my opinion has always been one of Mariah's perfect musical moments it combined the right of R&B and hip hop without coming off as desperate or trying too hard. Still to this day this song remains one of my favorite songs done by Mariah ever. Honestly as far as the fan base goes I find nothing wrong with fans who have been around since forever expressing concern or dismay with Mariah's actions as of the past two years a lot of these actions are overshadowing what we love about Mariah the most and when the music suffers everything else seems irrelevant. As a day one fan it's hard for me to defend some of choices as of late. Honestly I am tired of Mariah being photographed coming out of trendy restaurants just be captured by TMZ while the blood sucking clan gets freebies off Mariah's back but if this is what she is going to allow she can not blame no one but herself. Hopefully she can wake up and smell the roses and get back to the main thing at hand making some fire tunes and a banging album. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 00:44)

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