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The age thing (105,814) by Jamie from UK

Thanks for that. I have a flight booking of hers from about 2003 which showed her true age from passport.
(Thursday 29 February 2024; 10:38)


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Cardi (105,813) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter

Her new song is a solo song. No Mariah.
(Thursday 29 February 2024; 04:16)

The age thing (105,812) by Robert-Anthony from United States

Oops. The url is bad because I missed a character or number when I typed it. However, if you type in my Google search - Why is there confusion about Mariah Carey's birth year, then scroll down and you will see the link - Mariah's true age is finally proven.
(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 23:10)


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Let's be kind. We didn't know what is upon us (105,811) by Robert-Anthony from United States

It doesn't have any tracks like Nice and Slow, Yeah Yeah Yeah, Daddy's Home, Birthday and OMG. It sits right there with his album Here I Stand - in the markdown clearance bin. Bobby Ross Avila and Issiah Avila. The Avila Brothers should have had 5 tracks on the album. I can't believe their hit song GLU didn't make the album tracklist.

(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 21:00)


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The age thing (105,810) by Robert-Anthony from United States

This is why it was changed.
(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 20:16)


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The age thing (105,809) by Jamie from UK

So I've just noticed that when you do a search for Mariah's age it no longer gives the 1970/1969 debate and just shows her true year of birth being 1969. Wonder why they now decided to come clean after all these years.
(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 14:03)

Controversial (105,808) by jaker20 from US

Her vocals have very little, if any, bearing to her career trajectory now. The public isn't checking her for the vocals in 2024. No current artist is successful for their great vocals. The last one is probably Adele, who by the way has been having so many vocal issues. Obsessed, Touch My Body, that's her most popular songs right now. And maybe that's part of AIWFCIY's longevity because of its playfulness, not necessarily the vocals.

I think she was on to something with Caution. Remember, Mariah said she didn't like her vocals in it. But that album received some of the best reviews of her career. But I think the timing was wrong. If that album was released now, it would be a bigger hit.

Because the Mariah post 2019, after AIWFCIY first hit no.1, is more popular and beloved than the 2010s Mariah. Unlike most of her contemporaries, everyone even the kids and teens actually know her now. What's lacking is a quick follow-up to sustain that Christmas buzz. It's the era of collabs, and I think she's experimenting on that with the Ariana and the rumored Cardi B collab, if that is true.
(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 09:27)


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Let's be kind. We didn't know what is upon us (105,807) by Tevin from USA

Usher too. Even with his Superbowl performance, his album (I personally only liked a few songs) didn't do as well as his past work.
(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 02:27)


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Let's be kind. We didn't know what is upon us (105,806) by "MariahHater" from Hell

I see many lambs lambasting JLo's latest effort but don't forget that we may be in dwindling numbers. See the support to Yes, and? Only 20k and lambs alone cannot procure that in the US. What about The Rarities, yeah it's a compilation album but they are new unreleased songs. Mariah is not a selling act anymore. And let's not pretend that she is not a declining artist. It's natural for them to have diminishing returns as they age.
(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 01:04)

Controversial (105,805) by Robert-Anthony from United States

I have to say this. MC has had many managers and I don't think those managers have truly been able to solely manage her 100%. She has always been the co-manager in every era except TEOM. She really allowed Benny Medina to manage her 100%. With the others managers she co-managed her career. Just ask JD about his experience. If she would let someone experienced like Ron Fair take control of her career, then we may see her career skyrocket back 2008-2010 status.

(Wednesday 28 February 2024; 00:03)


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Ethical? Maybe not. Great? Yes (105,804) by Norman from USA

Hey Todd, was the file taken down, or did you delete it? I'd been able to upload it to Spotify and listened to it on a playlist I made with Yes, but now it won't play. Either way, thank you for uploading it in the first place. Cheers.

(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 22:46)


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Controversial (105,803) by Tevin from USA

So true. There should be college courses on her voice.
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 20:47)


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Controversial (105,802) by Tevin from USA

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 20:46)


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Controversial (105,801) by MusicfanJ from Germany

"She should be studied in Music School, I believe some already have." So true. Here's a little story. In the late 90ies I brought cd's of Mariah to my music teacher. He was a young and very nice teacher. It ended up that we as a school class were listening to "Hero" and "Everything fades away". Can you imagine how cool that was? My teacher loved Mariah's voice.

(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 20:02)


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JLo's album tanked (105,800) by Robert-Anthony from United States

How does a celebrated artist like JLo release an album that was like part 2 to her previous hit album and it debut at number 38 on the Billboard Top 200 chart? Laughable, right. We can mark her off the charts for the rest of the year. Cancel your tour JLo. We will Carey on for the rest of the year without you.
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 19:42)

Controversial (105,799) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter

I think Mariah's team consistently fails to market her legendary career. Like regular people have no idea how many, she's not just the artist with the most #1's but she's also one of the few female producers (among mostly male producers) who has a high number of #1's. They also forget that out of 19 of her #1's, 18 were written by her. Her team really fails to promote her artistry. Taylor for example everyone goes nuts over how lyrics and her songwriting and she has a course in uni dedicated to her. She even got a honorary doctorate for it. Mariah literally is ten times the writer Taylor will be and yet people barely know she writes her own music. (Come on this woman literally wrote a whole song about this guy's "honey" and how it tastes and made it sound like a romantic innocent song.) Same for the Eras tour. Taylor's reputation was quite damaged since 1989, people weren't really caring for her until the Eras tour and her strategy for it was to turn the tour into something that's "unmissable" creating FOMO around it so even people who don't like her are splurging to watch her. Taylor took the Scooter Braun feud and turned it into a money making machine while simultaneously presenting it as women empowerment movement. Mariah had a very similar situation with Tommy and Sony. Her team could have angled it at how this young girl who was naïve was systematically almost destroyed by her mentor and how she overcame it. She should have done more high profile speaking events. There's a lot they could have done position to position Mariah in an unsinkable powerhouse way early on in her career that would made her base stronger but instead her team is mostly reactive not proactive. Because of the lazy approach she's mostly now known for her ability to sing in whistle register and her Christmas music. She looks great for her age (which is 12) why is her team turning her into a legacy artist?
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 19:08)


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Controversial (105,798) by Robert-Anthony from United States

MC will always have that star power because she was such a determined new artist back in the 90s. She is a legend like Barb[a]ra Streisand. Sometimes I wonder if she didn't release an album every 2 years during those first 10 years, would her voice sound like 1992-1995 Mariah right now. I wonder has that ever crossed her mind in the past 8 years. I know she will give us something we can be proud of like her vocals on BBE.
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 18:54)


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Controversial (105,797) by Libra Lamb from USA

I think her confidence would be much higher and thus likely to release music more often, do more live performances and be in the spotlight a lot more. It's a shame we have to go so long without hearing new music but we'll always have her extensive catalogue and nobody will take that away or forget her. She should be studied in Music School, I believe some already have. The Mariah Carey course has a nice ring to it. She's unique in a lot of ways, always imitated but never duplicated. My all time favorite artist.

(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 18:25)


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Cardi B (105,796) by Robert-Anthony from United States

I hope it is something like Ring ft. Kehlani. I love that song.

(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 18:19)


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Cardi B (105,795) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter

That's good news if true. I honestly think if Mariah is taking this year to experiment and primary do collaborations with multiple artists on their projects I'm open to that too as long as it's not something she won't get credit for. I am still salty about Ariana dropping Mariah like that. I am seeing rumors of MC16 being ready almost. Can you tell I'm thirsty and starving for new Mariah material?
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 18:08)


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Cardi B (105,794) by Tevin from USA

Yes.
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 17:14)


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Cardi B (105,793) by Shezz from Pk

It is supposedly a pop/upbeat song. I don't think it is a remix, it is a proper collaboration. I just hope it is either one of their first singles, not just a promo/buzz single. If it gets the proper Cardi B treatment as her first single it will definitely have a video and it'll definitely chart high (opening week at least). I'm excited for Mariah to go back to her uptempo first single formula.

(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 16:35)


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Cardi B (105,792) by jaker20 from US

Cardi B and Ari are still within the same broader range of Mariah's category. Besides in this day and age, artists dabble into everything that categories really don't mean all that much anymore. Country artists doing rap, Beyonce doing country, Billy Eillish does what she wants. Its all kind of mixed up now. I think music categories isn't as clear cut as it used to be.

Let me add, Mariah herself has incorporated all these genres into her albums and played with jazzy influences like Portrait and Subtle Invitation, then Mariah's had a couple of gospel influenced songs throughout her albums. And of course Mariah's had a huge influence in bringing hip-hop to the mainstream. So its not a huge jump for Mariah to do these.

She doesn't necessarily need to pick one of these lanes, since she's already doing all of them. What we want is more of them. Or rather, we want, well anything, since she's not releasing much at all.
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 16:20)


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Controversial (105,791) by Jamie from UK

I think it's inevitable that every artist reaches a point where they are no longer mainstream. It's just a natural process, new artists come along and people's focus switches. The thing Mariah has on her side is that she's part of an elite group that are considered the last legacy artists, or real artists. Everything these days is so manufactured and people forget about you easily these days. Fame is short lived and there's no longevity. The likes of Mariah, Celine, Whitney and Janet to name but a few were probably the last divas we will have and it's nice that they are etched in time. They are lucky that they are still relevant in the media as many others have been forgotten about.
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 16:18)


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Controversial (105,790) by Tevin from USA

Ok the question that I'm about to ask isn't ment to cause negativity or shade. Since we have been talking about Mariah's career tragetory and eras the last few weeks, I started to ask myself this question, and I'm curious to hear everyone's opinion. If Mariah's voice did not deteriorate (she can still sing by the way), do you think her career tragetory would have been different (from where we are currently at now), or do you think it was inevitable that she would be put in "legacy" status, due to her age, and ageism in the industry?
(Tuesday 27 February 2024; 16:01)

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