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Re: When success has many colors (62,665) (62,668) by Licia from USA People aren't missing the big picture or the other opportunities. I'm happy that she's found other ways to make income and remain in the public eye. Even though that's that's not what I want from her I'll never knock her for doing the side gigs because she has two little innocent people that she's responsible for. My issue is she seems to be abandoning the very thing that made her a star in the first place and most of us here only care about the music. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 20:58)

Re: Stella (62,663) (62,666) by MusicfanJ from Germany Stella scares me too. I would feel very uncomfortable with such a person. Imagine she is your colleague, uh she looks so fake. The eyes are screaming for dollar notes and fame. I would like to know how the managers from Alicia Keys, Lady Gaga or Adele looks like. Mariah needs a good professional one, who's not telling her it's cool and the only way to get attention to act like a fallen Disneystar and playing with the media. That's not Mariah's style. But the showbiz is so crazy, you must trust someone who is not only interested in money, art and being creative and free is the key to feel real happy. And the people who are none fans will take an artist more serious. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 20:33)

When success has many colors (62,665) by Nikki from usa I don't know how "cheesy" having the most watched movie on the Hallmark channel is. I know it's successful and an opportunity. It's not a subject of "blame" if an enterprise doesn't go well unless there's actual sabotage involved. When it comes to the blame game there's 2 extremes on this board. The negative Nancies blame Mariah for everything that goes wrong. JD doesn't book Mariah any new appearances and doesn't have her roster filled to push her album or even after her album release, let's blame Mariah. Someone steals music from her which ruins her movie and she loses her job, well Mariah's being petty and ruining her own reputation by not braiding that girl's hair, isn't she? The over positive fans go the other way and blame everyone else. Sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't. Somethings require a group effort and if the group as a whole isn't giving their all then it fails. Mariah has already reached the pinnacle of success in music, so I don't blame her for wanting to try new things. This Hallmark deal gets her right in front of the 40 something crowd who buy a bulk of the albums these days, so I don't see that as a bad business move. Her lipstick and children's book last year helped her single reach #11. It has the potential to hit #1 this year. Labels are on their way out and Mariah's doing exactly what I always wanted her to do. She's branching out into other media platforms solo, so she can call her own shots. Whether it's a movie, a lipstick, a book, a perfume, a commercial, or a series they all can have a song attached. I think some of you are missing the big picture and the real opportunities here. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 19:45)

Re: The blame game (62,658) (62,664) by TJ from Norway I don't agree with you at your statement about "from the beginning". Back in 1993/94 Mariah said in interviews that she would not do movies or go in that direction, because she didn't like how musicians tried to reinvent their career (probably talking about Madonna). People should stick to what they were good at. Mariah is good at making music, or at least she can be. She's not a good actress. On the other hand, I loved her concert. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 19:27)

Stella (62,663) by Butterfly from This is beyond her career. We know Mariah has been making bad career choices. I have never been worried about a Mariah employee in my 19 years of being a fan. I'm not being delusional or overreacting. Stella has entered her life and all of a sudden she changed for the worse. Lap dance, drunk clubbing, weird ig pictures, reality show, moving to Kardashian land, cursing at the paps etc. I don't want to go to far on here but her jewelry and eyes scares me (...). We know what happened with MJ and Whitney. People are fake and act like they care about them but they just want money (in Stella's case also fame). God bless Mariah. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 19:19)

Re: The blame game (62,656) (62,661) by Licia from USA Mariah is always my go to person when it comes to blame. I'm well aware that if music was her number one priority and she really wanted to get back into the studio she would do so with or without Stella's approval. She is the boss after all and she can say no to the side deals if she chooses to. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 17:42)

Changed my avatar (62,660) by Susana from USA Webmaster, I changed my avatar. If you could change it on my first post and delete this message please thanks so much. [Webmaster: If you change your avatar, all your posts will show the new avatar, even the ones from years ago.] (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 17:10)

New music needed to go with Mariah's World (62,659) by Susana from USA I think if she has new material ready enough to make an album, that it should be encouraged by management that it be released to coincide with the new show. There's going to be eight episodes that we can be reminded and others that new music is out. There are so many reality stars that were not singers or can be argued that they can't even be called singers, that have shot straight to number one on iTunes even for short period. Just think what it could do for Mariah. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 16:58)

Re: The blame game (62,657) (62,658) by Chicago Lamb from USA I don't get it. What is going on that someone has to be blamed for? A successful Vegas residency? An annual Christmas affair at the Beacon Theatre? A successful tour? A Hallmark movie deal? Getting the voice back in shape? A forthcoming docu-series? Why shouldn't she spread her wings into business ventures and do what she can do to strengthen her legacy? Mariah said from the beginning she wasn't a "one dimensional" artist. We were ok with that but now we're not ok with her being a multi-dimensional business person? In business, not everything will take off and be huge. That's just the way business goes. Be happy she is still in the news (in any capacity) and still tours, still singing her heart out for the fans. Way too much negativity on this board. Lighten up people. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 16:06)

Re: The blame game (62,656) (62,657) by ADAM from USA Lol. Thanks Andrew for your commentary. I could not agree more. It amazes me how some people still can't grasp the concept that a grown 46 year old woman who has achieved fame and fortune simply put is just not as invested in her career or fans as she once was. For many years now, Mariah has distanced herself away from communicating directly with her fans and has alienated any opinions from friends or family member who try to give her real talk. She has created this bubble she's orbiting in and likes it that way. I just find it scary how so many people still find blame in every other person that's not Mariah for her mistakes. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 15:20)

The blame game (62,656) by Andrew from UK Has anyone else noticed how, when something has gone wrong, is going wrong or looks as if it will go wrong in Mariah's world, (mostly) the delusional lambs (like the ones who say she outsang Celine on Natural Woman) find a person other than Mariah to blame/vilify/condemn. If it's not Nick, it's Randy. Let's take potshots out of Boyz II Men or Lee Daniels or anyone else for voicing concern. JD was at fault for everything during his tenure. Stella is the fault of everything now (even Mariah not releasing a new record now: come on Stella, push her in the studio and shout "create, dahling, create") and her daughter is the reason why Mariah doesn't bother with fans over the internet anymore (as if that's a recent thing). But wait, if everything else fails, if Mariah [censored] up, have no fear, we can always blame Tommy, because it's what happened 20 years ago that's the reason for everything going wrong ever in the world. Mariah runs off stage halfway through a song? Tommy. Mariah's voice cracked? Tommy. Mariah lost an eyelash? Tommy. Sometimes it seems only the people who are oddly convinced that Mariah is a massive victim are the ones who still follow her career. She is a grown woman. Nobody's forcing her to make more cheap [censored] Hallmark movies but she is. However, I'm sure somebody else will be to blame when they're mocked. Who can we blame this time? I don't think Monroe has been taking her share of the blame, the little slacker. Let's blame Monroe. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 14:42)

Re: Break (62,649) (62,655) by Tyler from USA I am completely with you on this. I think certain fans on this board need a hobby. It's one thing to be a fan but some of you are out right obsessed. We're e at the point now that we are speculating MC is cheating and her engagement is fake. Who are you people to question something like that about someone? You need to have several seats and get a life. MC doesn't care about music yet she's been touring and doing Vegas for almost two years. Chill out guys, it's not that deep. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 14:41)

Re: Everything but the music (62,650) (62,654) by darrian liu from taiwan What happened with JD is that most of the lambily were pissed off after MIAM underperformed and most of us figured that JD wasn't a good manager, so the others started those attacks and became viral. Stella, on the other hand, was supported by many of the lambs. So making those sort of viral attacks that JD experienced would be difficult. Without the attacking lambs' help, it would be impossible to go viral. Maybe somebody could make a video for Mariah regarding this issue when the hype for Mariah's World is peaking. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 12:25)

Re: Everything but the music (62,650) (62,653) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Marissa, the only way anyone can get their point to Mariah is by saying it to her directly when they see her out on the streets. Mariah seems to have absolutely no touch with what the internet is saying and the Bulochnikovs sure as hell won't tell Mariah what we said about them. Heck they are making her social media accounts their own by posting their own pictures there. The last picture of the 4 of them on Mariah's Instagram, do you think Mariah would ever allow that unflattering picture to be posted? Would Mariah be cool with captioning her photo "Nobu Nobu Nobu Nobu" like she has never been there before? She not only has handed over these to her team, she turned a blind eye to everything. So the only way is some fan either yelling out concerns when Mariah is passing by or handing out a letter to her personally. Well now that Stella will read this message, we can't also get away with that haha. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 11:49)

Why do all of MC's close friends speak out? (62,652) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter This is something that I have been wondering. J.D. spoke out post MiAM and now Lee Daniels. When J.D. spoke out Mariah seemingly stopped being friends with him. Now when Lee spoke, Mariah said "she doesn't care", while Stella was yelling in the background. Why do these people speak out in public and not to Mariah directly? J.D. and Lee have known Mariah for years and they all seem to genuinely love each other so I will not believe that they are trying to get headlines dissing Mariah. So that leaves us with one explanation. They probably do try to talk to her directly but she "dahlings" them out and sweeps it under the rug. So they go on record (no matter how questionable the move is) to try to get the point across to her. Same way we, the fans, are trying to find a way to our concerns to be noticed by her but are being filtered away by Stella's camp. Also really how much can I blame Stella? Obviously she will try to gain from her business, who wouldn't? It's Mariah who should have known better. She always has such a huge wall of entourage of people around her that her real friends probably find it hard to get in and so they are abandoned. Mariah is thus left with only people on her payroll as friends and we all know what that means. They would never tell her anything that would get them cut off from her payroll. There are other big stars out there like Beyoncé and Britney and although they also sometimes are seen with entourages, there are many times when they are not surrounded by people and have friends that are definitely not on their payroll. Also if Mariah does want to still get success with her newer albums, it's time she starts recording because this industry is ageist and the longer she delays, the less chance of her making any further impact. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 11:42)

Re: Can I also give my 2 cents? (62,647) (62,651) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I get your point and all but having Mishka be Stella's proxy, if true, is possibly one of the most bizarre things to happen in Mariah's life. What does a 13 year old know about managing a global superstar? If this is Stella's idea of being clever, then she really must be out of her mind. I agree with the lambs who say that Stella has only latched on to Mariah to push her own agenda. Yes she had made reality shows before but none with a star of Mariah's level. People would never expect to get inside the world of Mariah and if the show is a success, Stella is set for life. That will be the launching pad of her and her daughters. I have zero doubts about it now because remember this woman did try to star in her own show but got rejected. I can't also blame Stella for brainwashing Mariah because Mariah is a grown woman and should have known better especially after being used so many times. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 11:27)

Re: Everything but the music (62,645) (62,650) by Marissa from USA Exactly. Mariah says that she has too much music left in her to retire, but yet making new music has been her lowest priority. To me, Stella is doing nothing more than getting her opportunities that are branding her as a legacy artist that are distracting her from making new music. All of her touring and the residency is riding the coattails of the past. Mariah may be "on fire" financially, but where is her new hot song on the radio though? Where is the album? A chart-topping feature at least? Did we become fans because of MAC deals, reality shows, video game ads, and Hallmark movies, or did we become fans because of the music? I definitely think we need to make this call for Mariah to get back to basics go viral to the point where she's gonna hear about it whether the Bulochnikovs are running her social media or not. Our presence was made known heavily during the JD management saga. Maybe this time the same thing can happen but we can be less venomous. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 10:55)

Break (62,649) by Manny from U.S. I think some fans here need a break from Mariah. I am a fan, even a lamb. I am very aware that Mariah is a celebrity, that I do not know personally. It seems out of place to get so involved in her personal life. Some posts sounds crazy and totally obsessive. For example, I don't understand this Stella bashing thing. We don't have to analyze every single thing Mariah does. I feel bad, not for Mariah. But for the "stans" that think they are fans. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 10:18)

Re: TMZ once again, Packer and negatrons (62,648) by Lara from Middle East She dislocated her shoulder and broke her ribs on the set. Why is the scar on her elbow? (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 7:11)

Can I also give my 2 cents? (62,647) by Lara from Middle East Until Mariah Carey enlightens us with what's happening (or her docu-series hopefully does) we can only speculate. Here's my thought: like most artists, Mariah is [censored], passing through [censored] episodes where she gets [censored], forget sleeps, overwork herself (TRL appearance anyone?) and [censored] episodes (go listen again to Side Effects). She might have [censored] which could explain her [censored] and maybe Mishka is always stuck to her to make sure she's [censored] well and in case she gets [censored]. Why Mishka? Because Mariah hates to be controlled after all the damage from Tommy, so a little 12 years old girl isn't a threat to her and more trusteable than adults. Seems the [censored] is killing her inspiration so this is why we're not getting any new music. Again I repeat I'm only speculating, so don't take it too seriously. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 7:04)

Mariah still loves Nick (62,646) by Mariah from Us Guys I'm new here and I've recently become obsessed with this messageboard. So since I'm here I might as well voice my opinion on something else I have in mind. I think that Nick loves Mariah so much that he is in on this "divorce" thing or whatever you choose to call it, like when Nick talks about Mariah, he never has anything bad to say about her and it seems like they aren't even separated. And I'm noticing MC doing the same as well. It just hit me last night that Mariah wants so badly to talk about how much Rocky is like his dad with being a comedian and I think Nick would sacrifice being together with Mariah to get her back into the whole media buzz again. He loves her that much and I can see it, like Mariah fell off the rader and was actually resembling a normal person before all this "divorce" drama. She was jogging in NYC without an entourage and she was seen walking with her nephew when TMZ was trying to get her to talk about her separation, she didn't have a crew she was acting normal an I liked that Nick brought out the real side of Mariah when they were together. I could be completely wrong but tell me if anyone else agrees with me? [Webmaster: Next time, please start a sentence with a capital and end it with a dot, or else your messages won't be posted. Also it's "Mariah" and "Nick", not "mariah" and "nick".] (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 4:16)

Re: Everything but the music (62,643) (62,645) by Licia from USA Mara that's all I have been saying since she started working with Stella. I give Stella credit for finding ways to make Mariah money and I won't knock her hustler, but I honestly don't care about any of that. The only way Stella will truly prove herself to me is when she is able to put the same type of effort into Mariah and new music. Not another greatest hits, not another number ones tour, and not another Christmas extravaganza (I do understand why she needs to capitalize on the Christmas season though). As a logical adult I understand her need to be able to provide for herself and her children and just doing music is no longer the cash cow it used to be. As a selfish fan, I don't care, I want new music. Lol. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 2:11)

Let's start a trend (62,644) by Amber C from USA I know someone on here said we could start a free Mariah trend. That's a food idea. Or perhaps a "where's the music Mariah?" trend. Because she does not even connect with fans anymore. Neither does she want to. Has Mariah languished? I don't have social media accounts but maybe a clever lamb can come up with something to derail stellar plans. Perhaps a fan made video, they always show those to Mariah. But hide subliminal messages to get our point across. (Wednesday 25 May 2016; 1:56)

Everything but the music (62,643) by Mara from United States I just had to get something off my mind. I noticed lately since MC's new management she has been into everything but new music. She has Vegas, which she was working on before so I won't really count that, but she is doing the SSFT with it possibly continuing in October in Brazil. She has this show on E, greatest hits CD, Hallmark deal, Christmas shows, even her own vodka. Some people have posted on here stating that if we are concerned about some things we cannot be true fans/lambs. I cannot sit here and try and prove what a true fan I am or not. I have been there since day one and I was in 8th grade. I have seen Mariah evolve from the young 19 year old girl to her grand wedding to TM to her face at the Grammy awards the year she was completely robbed and she was wearing her lime dress and white dress and every time her name was announced TM was seen smacking his gum while she sat there as Alanis M won it all and all I could think was how cold he was and how she deserved someone who would be good to her. To her getting the courage to leave him and go through freedom and then Glitter and overcoming that and then to see her finally becoming a mother which I admit I never thought I'd see, to now all of this. So I am sorry if I look to any of you as a non lamb but I am anything but. I am sorry if I feel protective of her and I don't like what I see. Is MC looking like she is having a ball and loving life? Maybe. Who really knows? Is she making money since this new management? Yes. But most everything she is into now, is what Stella is known for too. Stella if you want to get the trust of Mariah's *insert whatever adjective you want* fans then please use your influence to get her to record some new music. This is what she lives for or at least always said she did. It's where she creates her masterpieces. Don't sit there on Instagram with your daughter and whoever else and throw up the birds telling haters to F off. Where is the maturity in that? This is a living legend you represent and please don't attack me that Mariah can't have fun. Of course she could, and I don't want anyone saying you want the Mariah that was under TM. That is farthest from the truth. Butterfly was one of my fav eras seeing her so free. But if Mariah does not care to make new music ok, we don't really know that. But how about the next time you try to talk to her about her next project, you remind her about the music. Sorry if I'm sounding demanding, I don't mean to and would never tell Mariah what to do. I'm talking about a manager that seems to have her in everything but. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 21:53)

Re: I Still Believe (62,594) (62,642) by Mike from FL, USA I def miss this Mariah. Not sure what is going on in her personal or professional life right now, but I hope she gets back to the music and soon. (Tuesday 24 May 2016; 19:04)

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