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Re: The art of letting ish go (57,912) (57,914) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Oh please, the only relevant MiMi on this board is Mariah. I don't acknowledge anyone on this board who unapolagetically tried to pass off obvious lies about Mariah as the truth no matter their pick of Mariah related moniker. And don't blame me for your own choice in taking what I wrote as a very general note to the board so personal. If you wanna keep talking about Adele Laurie Blue Adkins, and her non-connection to Mariah, go right ahead. After all, this is a general messageboard. We should start swaping our favorite recipes for vegetarian casseroles too then. So then what exactly draws you to this site when you just said you think I am an "obsessed Mariah freak"? BTW, That only explains my presence, not yours. I love how I'm the freak for wanting the conversations and discussions to be centred on Mariah on a freaking Mariah Carey messageboard. But I guess a hit dog will always holler. If I'm so wrong and you're so right Giovanni, then why didn't you just keep doing what you were doing? You could have just ignored me like I have been ignoring you for all this time. Why are you so Thirsty for my attention? Please, I beg you don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question. And go on about Adele if that's whatever is gonna make you happy. See, I can relate because I love Mariah Carey in a very similar way. Some electively uninformed people have been known to twist that into me being an obsessed freak but you wouldn't know anything about that, would you Giovanni?
(Sunday 22 November 2015; 1:35)
This is a fact (57,913) by Giovanni from USA
That if Mariah were to release any of her hits from the 90's today. They'd still shoot to number one on Billboard. Which is why if she wants a hit she needs to write songs that are up to pair with her older ones.
(Sunday 22 November 2015; 0:54)
Re: The art of letting ish go (57,902) (57,912) by Giovanni from USA
You can stay in the inside. It would be better. And of course Baby is just mad because somebody told it like it is and called her out on her bull****. We're free to discuss anything we want, especially if it's music related. This isn't your site and you don't make the rules, so sit down. I'm not like you, an obsessed Mariah Carey freak who is always spouting out nonsense no one cares for. And didn't Mimi L. already read you multiple times. Bye Baby.
(Sunday 22 November 2015; 0:36)
Amazing We Belong Together cover (57,911) by IheartMC from USA
So I am one of those lambs that still adores this song. I came across a male version of it and it sounds pretty good. I love that he tried a difficult Mariah song. Check this awesome cover of Mariah's big hit We Belong Together. Hope you guys enjoy as much as I do.
(Sunday 22 November 2015; 0:36)
Re: Speak up more (57,903) (57,910) by Marissa from USA
I totally agree with your point about Mariah not trusting the public to overshare anymore. In her recent interviews post-divorce I sense that she is much more inhibited and guarded than I've ever seen her in the past. It's something I see in her eyes now even when she looks happy it seems like she is anticipating shade, someone to twist her words, or just general bullshit and has prepared herself to shut it down, to the point where it seems like she's not fully relaxed or enjoying the moment. I feel that she has a wall up and it's unfortunate. Besides Travon, has anyone else gotten this vibe?
(Sunday 22 November 2015; 0:00)
Lead The Way tribute by Kyla (57,909) by JAXGH from United States
Here is Kyla singing Leading The Way. She was singing for a lambily club in Philippines (she's also a lamb). She really nailed the falsetto, riffs and runs, the climax and the long 21 second note at the end. All live. Enjoy. Lmao the lambs are so cute at the end giving praise.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 22:33)
Re: Speak up more (57,899) (57,908) by Andrew from UK
I agree with you. But disagree with general concept of "elusiveness". Kind of felt like Mariah just [censored] off whilst we were all desperate for a chart attack. Sympathy is oversought. Vanity prevails. Cheap videos blamed upon record companies is nonsense. She's loaded. I want Mariah Carey the "queen" back. A third and probably final chart attack is absolutely necessary or there's not much point. She has the songwriting ability. She is the songbird supreme. Not sure there is a fair comparator. Lipping and all other criticisms aside, she taps into people when she's on point. Adele? Mariah can do this even better. Movies? Cards? Shopping? All nonsense. She needs to get back to her day job and give it one final smash. Lose weight, drop the disenchanting diva attitude, write some relevant songs, drop the trying-to-be-cool lyrics and hit the Butterfly depth again, and sing them live. Nobody expects Mariah Carey to be the vocalist she was. But they will respect her for owning it and having attitude. Nobody [censored] with Whitney. Until the very end. All other artists fans will be in awe. She just needs to go for it. Agree with Gio and others about ballads, ballads turning into upbeat, classic universal stuff etc. Day job, please Mariah. I'm reminded of how absolutely astonishing she was.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 22:31)
Re: Speak up more (57,901) (57,907) by Billy from Greece
Jonathan, as you said, Mariah has been indeed misunderstood but there are many forces that have led to that, some of them pulled by MC herself, but she clearly does not care. When I said that the "Elusive Chanteuse" was as "bare" as she would get at this point in her career, I meant that it's doubtful that she would have a tell-all, "this is for real for real, Oprah Winfrey whole segment for real" interview now, so you have to read between the lines, of her music in specific. That's where she puts everything but she does not name-call it, hence the "elusiveness". In fact, in my opinion, "The "Elusive Chanteuse" album was her most personal since, I don't know, "Charmbracelet" probably (sure "Memoirs" had very personal songs as well, but personal in the sense of specific to her - see "The Impossible" - instead of introspective, soul-searching songs). There may come a time that she speaks about Alison or Morgan, but I don't see it right now. It's obvious that as much as she is Hollywood, there are certain things that are out of reach. And it's fine. I think she expressed the most the way you mean it between "Buttterfly" and "Charmbracelet". As I've said before, she was at her most unguarded during those years. After that, and especially after 2008, there was a clear distinction between personal and public. The way in fact she treated the second divorce - which obviously was life-changing for her - just shows you how human she is. She could have made a headline with a revealing interview, but she didn't. As Miss Ross has said, "this is my life, not a [censored] story".
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 22:31)
X Factor UK (57,906) by Andrew from UK
Half an hour into X Factor and two Mariah songs performed (OSD and WBT). General theme, as always: "You tried to sing a Mariah." My whatsapp going mad. Love me some Mariah. So proud. Love me some Mariah. Buzzing. I forget sometimes how [censored] amazing her [censored] is. Reminds me of the first X Factor when I lived at home and Simon Cowell said, word for word, "Even Mariah Carey misses notes sometimes" and I snapped my head around to my dad and insisted "no she [censored] doesn't" and he belly laughed. Love me some Mariah.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 21:45)
Re: Speak up more (57,901) (57,905) by Armen from United states
I agree with you Jonathan. I've been the biggest supporter of MC from June of 1990 and I've been in the music business for over 15 years and there are a lot of things people don't know about what Mariah has been through that she never shared and it's time. All she has to do is "speak the truth, stand in her truth and she will be free" in doing that she will gain more support then she has ever had because people will relate to her more and she will also save lives by sharing her stories and struggles. I'm sure that will happen eventually, I just think that time is now.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 21:33)
iTunes (57,904) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
Mariah made huge leaps today Saturday into the top 50 on albums and top 80 on singles charts on ITunes in the USA. All I Want For Christmas Is You.
iTunes:
#51 Norway
#55 Denmark
#64 Ireland
#71 Canada
#79 United States
#114 Japan
#118 United Kingdom
#120 Spain
#130 Singapore
#136 Sweden
#137 Bermuda
#141 Ireland
#146 Australia
#186 Austria
#193 Hungary
#198 Netherlands
#199 Cyprus
Album: Merry Christmas
iTunes:
#31 Indonesia
#46 United States
#47 British Virgin Islands
#66 Italy
#83 Canada
#85 Fiji
#89 Saint Kitts and Nevis
#108 Barbados
#111 Australia
#163 The Bahamas
#176 Papua New Guinea
#186 Saint Kitts and Nevis
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 21:14)
Re: Speak up more (57,901) (57,903) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
Johnathan, when I first joined this post less than 2 years ago, I reflected on how I could relate to Mariah in regards to hiding insecurities. I became a fan of Mariah's not because she could sing, that was a given. I became a fan because she used her insecurities and turned them into something I could relate to and understand. Mariah does what insecure people such as myself do: we like to hide the fact that we lack confidence. In her profession she doesn't always have a choice like I do to hide and regain confidence. She is in the spotlight 24/7 and her insecurities are attacked regularly. I couldn't imagine living the way she deals with it. Opening up is not enough. Changing ways is not enough. Nothing is enough. There is no healing to insecurities because they affect the inner feelings of the soul everyday. However there are ways of dealing with it to prevent a breakdown or collapse from stress. Surrounding yourself with people who will embrace you is a must. People unfortunately call them yes men with Mariah. Also, having an elusive attitude towards your persona that embodies yourself is a must. This development is meant to embrace feelings while providing proper healing within their own time. Mariah does this well and really takes her time. The most important thing of dealing with insecurities is trust. I don't believe Mariah trusts the public enough to overshare. I listen to her music to teach me how she feels.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 21:05)
Re: The art of letting ish go (57,897) (57,902) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
"So just because this is a Mariah Carey messageboard we can't post about other music artists? Baby please get out of 'Dreamville' and come back to earth. You get weirder and weirder with each post. Adele is here to stay so get over it." I'm surprised you can admit that this is a Mariah Carey messageboard. So kudos to you. But, the only one of us that gets weirder and weirder is you Giovanni. What kind of person goes on a messageboard, catering to one very specific artist's fandom, only to engage in incessant talks and promo about a completely different performers and thinks that fans of the artist whom the messageboard is about won't be find it peculiar? Why is this suddenly Adele Central and us lambs are just supposed to be all wolly and warm about it? Don't make me laugh. Goodbye from the inside.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 21:02)
Re: Speak up more (57,899) (57,901) by Jonathan from United States
I completely understand what you are saying and I know it's an act but I just don't want Mariah to end up like Marilyn or other legends. Misunderstood and not appreciated until after their death. Maybe that's part of what makes them so legendary. You don't realize what you have until it's gone. I guess the good thing is in 50 years Mariah will be in almost every teenage girl's room. Also what makes you think "Chanteuse" is as personal as she is going to get right now? Just curious on why you think that, not attacking you or anything.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 18:15)
Speak up more (57,900) by Alex from United States
Billy, I couldn't have said it better myself. You hit the nail right on the head in my opinion.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 17:33)
Re: Speak up more (57,898) (57,899) by Billy from Greece
I think that in the "Elusive Chanteuse" Mariah was as 'bare' as she would get at this point in her. Although I see your point about opening up, I thoroughly get Mariah's hesitation to open too much about anything too personal. Also, the truth of the matter is, she has opened up several times in the past, though never overexposing herself either. I like that about her. I respect her "elusiveness" and I don't think that she should overshare. We're talking about a person who's under constant scrutiny, mind you. Finally, the "eternally twelve" issue could be, as you said, a defense mechanism, but I think it's a very strong part of her persona and playfulness and her own take on Marilyn Monroe's image tricks. Mariah is an excellent student of classic Hollywood and of pop culture in general, so I'm sure she cultivates her public persona based on a specific vision and "plan", if I can put it this way. Clearly, she's way more complex and smarter than what she allows the general public to see, but they way she "directs" herself is not random either.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 16:56)
Speak up more (57,898) by Jonathan from United States
I really wish Mariah would take a note from Viola Davis or some other stars and just open up about her backstory. We know the basics of her life and how being biracial affected her but we (or I) don't know what has trapped her to live as a 12 year old girl. Is racism the reason she is 12? What happened with Alison and Morgan? She can speak on how they affected her. Tell us more stories of the "wayward child with the weight of the world she held deep inside". The girl singing Outside and Close My Eyes should reveal alot more because it would make her more personal and could help more people then she thinks. I know the issues she had in her life are what caused her to stay 12 as a defense mechanism but I want her to be 45 now and just open. Whether she chooses to do that through music or interviews doesn't matter although a personal album would be great. No more being elusive and 12. Sometimes the greatest things come out of being bare.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 16:36)
Re: The art of letting "Can't Let Go" go (57,891) (57,897) by Giovanni from USA
So just because this is a Mariah Carey messageboard we can't post about other music artists? Baby please get out of "Dreamville" and come back to earth. You get weirder and weirder with each post. Adele is here to stay so get over it.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 10:48)
Can't Say No (57,896) by CMC from NY,NY
My prediction for sure is the upcoming Rick Ross and Mariah song "Can't Say No" is really a remake/remixed version of "Can't Let Go". Anyways can't wait to see Mariah on the 18th for my second annual Mimi Christmas show.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 7:05)
Re: AI judges reuniting (57,893) (57,895) by B from USA
I'm glad Mariah will be joining all of the judges of AI and you know she'll look like she did when she was a judge. A smart decision career wise along with admitting the feud with Minja was fake. This will repair her image she just needs to use her PR training she received from the Columbia and Sony managers and her publicists. She needs to play the game she knows how to. Slay Mariah, slay.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 3:36)
Re: Andrew (57,856) (57,894) by Andrew from UK
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(Saturday 21 November 2015; 3:24)
AI judges reuniting (57,893) by Jono from USA
If this is true, they better be paying Mariah another couple of million to appear on that sad excuse of a singing show. It's clear that the Idol from the first half of its run, which discovered actual talent like Kelly, Jennifer, and Carrie, no longer exists. I can't picture seeing Mariah back on the show considering her (rightful) disdain towards the whole fakery of a thing. Not to mention that means Nicki and J.Lo would be there. The Nicki thing was overblown and probably fake, but we all know how real the J.Lo thing is.
(Saturday 21 November 2015; 1:09)
All I Want For Christmas book (57,892) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
This is such a smart move. I can see all of her original Christmas songs being made into children's picture books eventually. Oh Santa in particular but even the ballads and hymns. It's a great Christmas gift to young and old, festive, educational and it'll feel brand new every year just like it's mother song. I wish for the next edition they'll put music to it. But maybe Mariah's saving that for her Hallmark card designing endeavour. Also, take note of the the fact that Mariah Carey is the only name billed as author.
(Friday 20 November 2015; 22:08)
The art of letting "Can't Let Go" go (57,891) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
The irony of this never ending tepid Mariah link to a song title. Doesn't Adele have fansites online? I thought everybody loved her. You'd think she was some underrated groundbreaking artist struggling to get her mixtape heard the way some of you go on and on about her. Let me go on Adele.com and talk about Mariah ad nauseum. That should go over well, right guys?
(Friday 20 November 2015; 21:51)
Re: Access Hollywood link (57,887) (57,890) by Jono from USA
Thanks for the link. Wow Mariah is really just glowing here. She seems to be in such a good place, so it's great to see her happy. This was such a fun and approachable interview.
(Friday 20 November 2015; 19:51)

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