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Re: Toni Braxton / Mariah Carey mini series (59,608) (59,629)
by 123 from USA
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Yes Mara, I agree, it was nice to see her tell her story. Did you see the 1700 dollar royalty check? I felt bad that she funded her tours with her own money and then took out loans. One thing about Mariah, is her tours are always simple. Say what you want about how simple Mariah's Elusive Tour appeared, Mariah was able to recoup more of the earnings for herself instead of having to pay to have a grand show because you're expected to. It would be nice for Mariah to be completely behind the scenes, guiding the story. I would love to see the story play out during the Butterly/Rainbow/Glitter era. I would to see her tell her side of the story regarding the sabotage and watch it all go down.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 5:15)
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Re: Jermaine (59,619) (59,628)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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Wow. I listened to the podcast interview and to me JD didn't say anything remotely equating to her career being over, or that she couldn't achieve another "hit" again. In fact, he seemed very open and willing to working on music with her. (The part about Mariah calling like getting on a bike, if she wants to go in the studio and work, he's like "let's go".) To me, the interviewers wanted him to comment on the drama in the media around Mariah's voice and he wouldn't. He kept saying "I didn't hear about that, I don't know about it" as if to say, "I'm not going to talk smack so don't ask me to." He very clearly stated Mariah has never gone anywhere, so whenever people talk about a comeback with her it doesn't make sense to him. He said he wasn't expecting WBT to be as big as it was, and that he didn't listen to people when he said her career was over at that time and he doesn't listen to or know what people are saying about her voice now. I think that the generalization he made about artists who have been around a long time being "like your first hit of a drug that you can never get the same hit off of" is more referencing the general public and their expectations on artists who are deemed "legends". To me he's not saying Mariah "can't" have a hit again just that it can be harder when you have been around 25+ years. He said she doesn't need to keep touring at this point of her career, but she does anyway. That to me was a nod to her as a legend. That's why when they brought up the 18 Beacon shows he said "Who does that?" Anyway, I really think his comments about Mariah were complimentary and positive rather than writing her off as some has been whose career is over or something like that. He just wasn't willing to predict the future. He said now that Mariah has two children, her life is in a different place than it was at the start of her career. That to me is true. As a fan I don't respect MC any less. She's not the working machine she was for the first decade, but then I don't think expecting that of her is realistic, either.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 5:00)
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Re: This (59,621) (59,627)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I would also like this sailor outfit to make a return when she performs "Honey". It's cute as fudge.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 4:12)
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Re: Article: Wendy Williams: Mariah won't make it down the aisle (59,618) (59,626)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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For Wendy's sake I hope she doesn't go ahead and make a bet that she will eat crow like she did with Kim and Kanye haha. I think the bet was something like she will eat crow if Kim and Kanye actually walk down the aisle or if their marriage lasts longer than a certain period she mentioned (I forgot which it was, Lee TS would you help me out?). And then when she lost the bet she had to actually eat crow on her show which was hilarious. So yes, she is very close to betting the same for Mariah and I'll basically have a "on the bathroom floor" moment if Ms Williams is left to devour another crow.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 4:02)
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Re: Jermaine (59,619) (59,625)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Lee dahlin' I wasn't going off at your post, in fact I found yours to be quite well balanced, logical and neutral. My post was more of a defense for JD because I think a lot of time we forget that he was out in the front, shielding Mariah when fans were basically throwing tomatoes at him and dragging him through mud for the delays. I too am not a fan of Mariah hiring close friends as managers (that includes Randy Jackson) and while JD is a great producer, he was not cut out to manage someone as big as Mariah. Haha the poor guy basically broke down and said "go ask Mariah why the album is being delayed" after being verbally abused and bruised by everyone calling him a leech. But he always told it how it is to Mariah and even Mariah admitted that. So yes definitely a bad decision to hire him as a manager but losing him as a friend and collaborator is quite a sad loss. He pushed Mariah to belt her heart out in WBT when she wanted to sing-rap the whole thing. I feel like he was one of the last people to genuinely care about her and not like the other who just took and took from her. He seemed to care and he gave back to her too in the form of beautiful collaborations between eh too. I am not saying Mariah "needs" him because no she doesn't. She can get others to write with but I just feel that they understand each other so well musically, and both of them admits it. Why I am still defending JD even though I went off on L A for chalking Mariah up as a legacy artist is because I feel like he might be upset that he was basically thrown out of her inner circle after having to take hits for his friend but L A on the other hand had Mariah running back to him and trusting him with her career and the first interview he gives after getting her back he blatantly talks about how she is past her sell date and should resort to singing her back catalog and covers only. Haha me defending JD is probably how people defending Walter feel. With JD, it's just that she was making the type of music she loved. But oh well, like you mentioned he now seems to be in the same deep well with Walter, Randy Jackson. If JD meant Mariah is done then I am sad that it has come to that but like I said Mariah's win or defeat depends solely on Mariah. A lot of people might now call me out as being a "goat" (not you Lee) but I am just saying what I think. I am and will always be a lamb but this is one of Mariah's lost friendships that I will genuinely feel bad about.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 3:53)
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Re: Jazmine Sullivan: singer mentions Adele while disc (59,605) (59,624)
by 123 from USA
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Jazzmine Sullivan is an amazing vocalist/songwriter. I'm still obsessed with Lions, Tigers, and Bears. I wish I wrote it. Have you ever heard her sing Round Midnight. Her runs are sick. Definitely underrated, and overqualified. Adele should duet with her. She is singing after all singing soul music.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 2:31)
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Re: Toni Braxton / Mariah Carey mini series (59,599) (59,623)
by 123 from USA
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Hi Billy. I think the reason Toni put out a movie about her is because she saw the mockery that was Whitney's and Aaliyah's where the families, let alone the artists were not involved. I do respect your opinion, but did you get a chance to check out Toni's movie? Hopefully the link will work for you. I love Toni as well. I can't believe the same director that did Glitter did Toni's movie. What a difference. What lacked with Glitter was a good script. The story... lacked. What did Mariah say, "It didn't even have a script." Toni put the movie out to finally tell her story. Like Mariah, she too was painted as a lavish diva, overspending and going broke. She signed a bad deal and explained that they put a gag order on her for 10 years in order to be paid her just dues. Toni is re-branding herself as she is coming out with more music and is going to re-enter the music world. The movie received top ratings and I'm sure she got a nice chunk of change for it.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 2:23)
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Re: Toni Braxton / Mariah Carey mini series (59,594) (59,622)
by enwar00 from usa
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I actually really enjoyed the movie. I thought it was nicely done, especially in comparison to the horribly trashy and generic biopics that channel has been doing that I won't even name. Mara pointed out that Toni was involved in the project, and I think that made a complete difference. Like you I also loved that her songs, music and singing were featured throughout, and you better believe I pulled out all my Toni Braxton CDs through the next week. As Billy pointed out Vondie Curtis Hall directed it (I'm a Glitter fan, I don't care), so that made a difference in quality as well. It was cool that she herself appeared in the last scene. Toni has had a dramatic life so it worked as a movie. With that said, I would not want a Mariah biopic at all. A documentary made well like Amy sure, but definitely not a bioipic with someone playing her. Too weird for me.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 1:50)
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This (59,621)
by B from USA
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Mariah should wear ensembles like this in Vegas.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 0:58)
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Jermaine interview (59,620)
by Lee TS from USA
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Here's a direct link to the podcast. Listen at the 1 hr. 4 min. mark when he starts talking about M.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 0:25)
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Re: Jermaine (59,611) (59,619)
by Lee TS from USA
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No Mimi L., you don't get it. Ok, let me first say I was never one of them lambs attacking JD with the whole MIAM fiasco. Sure I was frustrated and never agreed to their manager/client relationship. I love him as her producer though, I still want them to create great music together. If Jermaine likes it, then I like it. You know how you get on LA's case about turning M into a legacy artist or not scoring another #1. Well JD is basically telling Mariah to hang up the towel, retire, fade into the back, give it up old woman, without saying the words. I didn't even think of him as being salty or butt hurt, but it was really disappointing to hear him to say that. He lost faith and belief in Mariah - that's the biggest takeaway. I think that's why Giovanni went on a tangent. I tried to keep it cute in my initial post but whatever, JD is halfway there to Walter land. That's how bad it is and left me feeling so weary for Mariah's next album. Or I'm just being dramatic.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 0:13)
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Article: Wendy Williams: Mariah won't make it down the aisle (59,618)
by B from USA
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Obsessed. She's all up in Mariah's business again. She uses Mariah to stay relevant by pretending to have inside information. She probably goes through Mariah's trash.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 0:09)
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Sigala - Say You Do (official audio) ft. Imani, DJ (59,617)
by Billy from England, UK
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This song is using Always Be My Baby Lyrics? Am I right? Lol.
(Saturday 6 February 2016; 0:04)
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Re: MC sings with the interviewer (59,612) (59,616)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Reluctant or not, the woman sang. She let him have his moment, which for a fan is a dream come true. She let him lead the song and then joined in parts. If Mariah would sing one line to me personally, I would faint right there or get a serious case of shivers. Can we blame her for being reluctant? This woman is written off every time she misses one note (and that too when even her misses are better that most peoples best). She can give days of great vocals and we won't get one article but the day she has a bad moment, headlines spring out like mushrooms. So no I don't blame her for usually being reluctant to sing on spot because people have hammered her so much about her voice that she seems to doubt it herself when she is put on spot. The only complain I have of her interviews is that she gets quite stiff, as in her body gets stiff during interviews. I wish she was more relaxed like she was just a few years back.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 23:18)
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Re: Broadway loves Mariah - best tribute ever (59,613) (59,615)
by Luke from United Kingdom
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Wow she sings so beautifully. It not often I get moved by Mariah covers but she is wonderful. It makes me think what if Mariah done something similar? Just really strip back her songs and sing them at her own pace but composed in a way that it still sounds the same. I'd love to just see her sit down at a mic with a guitar player sat next to her. Thanks for sharing that.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 23:11)
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Re: MC sings with the interviewer (59,612) (59,614)
by George Golden from UK
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You seemed very sarcastic and negative. Are you a fan of Mariah at all?
(Friday 5 February 2016; 22:50)
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Broadway loves Mariah - best tribute ever (59,613)
by MC1989 from Spain
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Hi guys I just wanted to share with you this amazing performance of "Vanishing" from Crystal Monee Hall. You also must see her performance of "My All" playing the guitar, really impressive. Enjoy and share your thoughts.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 22:09)
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Re: MC sings with the interviewer (59,604) (59,612)
by Andrew from UK
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And I'm sure he was grateful for the thing he forced a reluctant singer to sing. And I'm sure she enjoyed it also, judging by the horrified look on her face. I wish I could live in the land of unicorns. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, people are praising an article about a "white" person not being able to dance. All is okay.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 21:59)
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Jermaine (59,611)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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What's with all the meltdown over Jermaine. I didn't hear the podcast but judging from the gist, I am assuming he was annoyed about the question or he just didn't want to make a comment about her. As for her making new music, isn't it true that Mariah's kids now are her primary focus, and now more than ever because she is divorced and probably has to put in twice the effort to cushion the blow for Roc and Roe? At least he isn't going around painting Mariah as a legacy artist like L A Reid did even recently on the Wendy show. When asked about how he feels when older artists wants to put out new music and say "let me play my new song for you guys", "that's the time to go get the popcorn". This is the man Mariah went to in hopes of getting her career back on track. If Jermaine is a little salty, it's slightly understandable because after basically being given up as the sacrificial lamb during the MIAM era (where the delays were not his fault yet the lambs tore him down for it bringing up stuff like how he is bankrupt and leeching off Mariah and saying a lot of crap) he was subsequently dropped from Mariah's team. Then Mariah went to L A and I think it's known that L A and Jermaine don't gel well together. The songs he were responsible for on that album was great and I don't think they sound dated. If MILG was sung by Beyonce or Adele, it would be on the top of the charts by now, sitting there for weeks straight. YDKWTD would have been a huge summer song if it was given the right treatment. "Supernatural" is probably the only song that sounds a bit dated but Mariah wrote it for her twins. Even his last song with MC before MIAM, the H.A.T.E.U remix was fire. I don't regret saying that I do want her to work with Jermaine in addition to her working with new fresh producers. Because they understand each other musically. As for whether Mariah can make a big comeback or not, that won't depend on what anyone says. That will only depend on Mariah herself. When she gets her fire back and when she is inspired to write again, and then back up that body of work by going all out with promotions, then no one can stop her.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 20:52)
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Re: MC sings with the interviewer (59,588) (59,610)
by May from Denmark
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I do believe it was a gesture Andrew because rather than saying "oh boy..." she could have excuse herself and say "I have to reserve my voice" or "I'm on vocal rest", after all, she is doing Vegas. In a radio interview once she said in a joking way (but perhaps a very true one) after being asked to sing that singing was a different "cache", as in, they had to pay extra if they wanted her to sing something. I wouldn't care if it was like that anyway, her voice is her instrument, her working tool, she has all the right to decline. Let's focus on the positive, she did sing, she sounded like an angel and she was all smiles by the end. I think that's great.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 20:14)
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Re: Hey Mara (59,576) (59,609)
by May from Denmark
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It was really nice to read your story Mara. Really sorry your daughter didn't got the teddy but she still got something, that if I were her, I would never wear those socks, I would put them under glass along with the tickets of the concert. It's a nice piece of memorabilia, overall knowing that she was with mommy, how much more sweet can that be. I agree with the J-Lo stuff, it's tiresome, I've been also seeing her everywhere in columns of random talk. In Latinamerica she is so highly regarded and I never understood why, her singing is so average, her voice is not awful but it is so limited, all people only talk about are her "assets" if you know what I mean. Maybe they like her because her Latina side and that she made that role of that famous singer in the movie. Her music lately is so repetitive yet she is still in all medias. Why. Mariah is doing great and except for the DailyFail I hardly see her many places. And I only visit that newspaper only to write in the search "Mariah Carey" for the pictures. Many times it has been irritating reading the shade thrown at her in what they try to make pass for a positive comment by the article authors.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 20:11)
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Re: Toni Braxton / Mariah Carey mini series (59,594) (59,608)
by Mara from United States
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I saw the Toni Braxton movie and I thought it was nicely done. I thought they got Babyface down almost more than Toni. Her story was interesting as I have similar health issues and have been a fan of hers since The Boomerang soundtrack. However I don't see Mariah doing it although it would be one way for her to get her story out there straight from the source. I always wished she would. I feel like I have followed this woman since day one and almost feel like she is a sister I never see so to speak, and yet we really don't know all that much about her life in a way. Mariah always puts more in her songs. In the Toni Braxton movie, she was right there behind the scenes and it was so nice to watch something that the star was 100% behind. I would settle for a nice either documentary or sit down interview though. It feels like we as fans got more behind the scenes of Mariah years ago. I miss those sort of things. I think with this day in age celebrities use social media almost like a crutch and I don't mean any disrespect in saying that. I just mean like, before a fan of Mariah's in the 90's didn't have this social media frenzy to stay connected with her so we saw her more. I agree with you too that MC's people should focus and stress her genius songwriting ability now more and I do feel that would be positive for her. She has such an amazing ability to craft beautiful songs on so many different levels and it would be awesome if she shared more of that side as well.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 19:15)
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Mariah's discography is just so damn epic (59,607)
by Familitchi from France
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Her discography is just so unforgettable. Not to mention her endless number of fantastic remixes with re-sung vocals. Hours of eargasm.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 18:52)
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Re: Jermaine (59,600) (59,606)
by Luke from United Kingdom
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Is this a recent interview you're talking about?
(Friday 5 February 2016; 17:46)
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Jazmine Sullivan: singer mentions Adele while disc (59,605)
by B from USA
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"There's a little injustice in how black soul artists are received. May not be as many people (who) listen to Adele, there are people who are listening," Sullivan told The Associated Press. Mariah is a black soul artist. She not only has to overcome that obstacle to succeed but ageism and sexism as well. She will always do well on the R&B charts but R&B is no longer the dominate force it once was.
(Friday 5 February 2016; 17:16)
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