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Mariah isn't defrosting, she has never been frozen (103,646) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Mariah isn't defrosting, and that Mariah her self sees the irony in this is the reason she can say that about herself. I regulary check how many monthly listeners the biggest artists from the 80's and 90's have on Spotify. I know Spotify is not the best streaming service to use to asess how popular an artist is, cause there are large differences between countries in how widespread the service is being used, mostly Scandinavian, European and Western countries use it. But at the moment Mariah has almost 25 million monthly listeners, 176th place in the world. For an artist who started in 1990, that is not a bad number. Just a few months ago, Madonna had almost as many listeners, but she has seen a ressurgance in listeners the last few months, and now is up to almost 40 million monthly listeners. But Mariah is way ahead of Celine Dion, Kylie Minogue (even though she has a new album out), Cher, David Bowie, Prince, George Michael and many of the greats from the last decades. She is ahead of Whitney Houston as well. The current artists Mariah can't compeet with, but my point is, Mariah isn't defrosting before Christmas, that is just how she is talked about in our culture right now, how people on social media use humor, make memes, cause she is like this wave, a tsunami, you can't escape between 1st of November and 31st of December, everyone knows it, and everyone is inn with the joke. Truth is, Mariah is one of the most listened to artists from the last four decades all through the year. So, people on this board, don't get fooled by the memes and the gimmicks surounding Mariah from now on and untill Christmas, she is not defrosting, cause she has never been frozen, non pun intended, Madonna (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 15:15)

Reflections of my expectations have come to wither (103,645) by Randy from USA Firstly, I want to thank everyone for being respectful in their replies. I think the problem is me. I love and believe in MCs artistry so much I want her to be a cultural and music icon. Bob Dylan, Marvin Gaye, Joni Mitchell and Stevie Wonder. The amount of respect and weight those names carry is what I wanted for MC. Anything that feels cheap, exploitive, desperate, or narrowing, grates my nerves. I want MC to be a cultural and musical icon. And listen, I'm hard on Madonna for the same reason, popping out her nipple, fillers and dating 28 year olds while 60 is destroying her legacy. I probably need a break from the board. I'm getting too invested again. Once again, for me the house is on fire and no one in the party smells smoke. I'll go enjoy the music in the way it always has brought me comfort, nostalgia and distant fellowship. Have I mentioned I'm bipolar? (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 13:07)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,644) by Nick G from Germany The sad truth is that no recordlabel wants to work with her except at Christmas. Mariah becomes an ATM with a wig on it every Christmas. That's all she can do. (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 12:38) this is a reply to message 103,636

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,643) by MusicfanJ from Germany "They are for us, the diehard fans. I'll gladly take these gifts. I can't wait for #Daydream30." Oh yes, absolutely. I'm so thankful that she did a Christmas tour in Europe and I could see her in Germany again. It was the best, pure joy and fun. I love the Christmas time. I love Mariah, so I'm fine with it. That she is doing Christmas concerts this year is fantastic for the "US Lambs". I'm sure it will be wonderful. (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 12:03) this is a reply to message 103,641

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,641) by Stacey from USA I honestly don't care if this is what MC has become. Sometimes we all have to be comfortable and confident in our accomplishments. MC can be proud of her career. These Christmas concerts, anniversary releases aren't for the general public. They are for us, the diehard fans. I'll gladly take these gifts. I can't wait for #Daydream30. (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 03:05)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,642) by Bobby A from United States Without the resurgence of AIWFCIY in 2018, so many young people would have never known this Christmas classic. What other female artist has a Christmas classic that will be her biggest income booster for years to come? If only we could get an official duet between MC and Michael Buble. I feel another huge Christmas announcement is coming soon in regarding AIWFCIY. (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 09:22) this is a reply to message 103,636

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,641) by Stacey from USA I honestly don't care if this is what MC has become. Sometimes we all have to be comfortable and confident in our accomplishments. MC can be proud of her career. These Christmas concerts, anniversary releases aren't for the general public. They are for us, the diehard fans. I'll gladly take these gifts. I can't wait for #Daydream30. (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 03:05) this is a reply to message 103,636

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,640) by Edward from USA Randy, she shouldn't argue for her legacy, her legacy speaks for itself and it does it very well. Her legacy is there for us to enjoy and for others to discover. All of us got hooked with her music because of some performance on TV or some song on the radio and we went from there. Millions have the chance to do the same every year with "AIWFCIY". I discovered "Eva Cassidy" ten years after she was gone while watching Michelle Kwan ice skate to "Fields of Gold". If the legacy is good, it doesn't need promoting. (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 02:21) this is a reply to message 103,636

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

The greats (103,639) by Andrew from the UK Andrew, AJ, Andy - my friends call me Andy. You feel free to call me Andy. (Tuesday 3 October 2023; 00:45) this is a reply to message 103,629

The greats (103,629) by Bobby A from United States Sundays must be your beauty rest day. I was expecting to hear some more your critiques Andy boo. I will check back tomorrow. (Monday 2 October 2023; 04:21)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,638) by Will from England I wouldn't take it so seriously. She's in on the joke, and fully aware of the videos that have been going around for the past couple of months, like she was with the McDonald's ad of her standing in the ocean. We've already had this discussion of her slowing down and taking more time for herself and her family, and if she is lucky enough to only have to work 2 months of a year, make that money during a period of time that she loves to celebrate, then let her. Lord knows I would love to. Whether you like it or not, Mariah is now synonymous with Christmas, and not evey artist can do that (associate themselves specifically with a popular holiday period), I think the only other one could be MJ with Thriller but that's the one song. Brands would kill to own a verb (googling, tweeting etc.); Mariah Carey owns an entire holiday period. (Monday 2 October 2023; 22:23) this is a reply to message 103,636

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,637) by Andrew from the UK How did you do? I love me some Randy - but you did badly, bro. Mariah has hardly offered up nothing of her back catalogue in the last three years. (The Rarities 3 years ago today, no?) You are way off the mark here. That Mariah can see actually irony means she has her eyes wide open. (Monday 2 October 2023; 21:50) this is a reply to message 103,636

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

Merry Christmas One and All (103,635) by Bobby A from United States I am glad she is going to be doing what she loves best - being with the Lambs. I hope to attend my very first show this Christmas season. There are like 10 dates going on sale this Friday. (Monday 2 October 2023; 18:03)

AIWFCIY is a holiday for itself (103,634) by Zachariah from Croatia That song should have its own Christmas, an own holiday. It is just an epic anthem that brings joy and positivity. (Monday 2 October 2023; 13:18)

George Michael / 3-words (103,633) by Andrew from the UK What was he like? He was the softest and most unassuming of the big-name celebrities I have met - like most celebrities they appreciate people around them who are casual and not starstruck. But it didn't register with me at the time that he was - and is - one of the best-selling artists of all time. He did not seem fully comfortable being around people. I just felt warmth and compassion for him. I think it appropriate to say we shall never look upon his like again. To continue the original irony of that quote: Here is George. This was the night. And *that* right there is my rather expensive bottle of voddy. But it was rather funny seeing this in the newspaper a couple of days later. And it's George bloody Michael. So all is forgiven, Sir. I think there are many contenders for the 3 most beautiful words in the English language: aside from the obvious, "let me help" is certainly powerful. But I would suggest that "one more try" is a great axiom and a brilliant mantra by which to live. I am currently now listening to One More Try and Heavenly on repeat thru my headphones and I will admit they have me a bit emotional. The songs go very well together and I think Mariah can lay claim to: "never give up". But whether "never give up" or "one more try" - please, don't ever anyone ever give up, for you always have one more try within you. Just one more try. Stand fast. (Monday 2 October 2023; 12:38) this is a reply to message 103,630

The greats (103,630) by Mara from United States Ok, now I've come out of creeping on the board. Please do tell your encounter with the King of Lovlies himself George. (Monday 2 October 2023; 06:19)

Drake gets his 12th number one (103,632) by Andrew from the UK How can I stay out of your replies - when I apparently live rent-free in your head? (Monday 2 October 2023; 11:29) this is a reply to message 103,623

Drake gets his 12th number one (103,623) by Terna from Nigeria "...prolly too old to keep up huh." - I guess you're not on a spellchecker. Exactly my point, now stay outta my replies. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 03:21)

Is it time to get rid of physical media? (103,631) by MusicfanJ from Germany Here the same. I would never give away my collection. I collect music and movies in general, it's a hobby. I have so many memories with the music collection (of course especially with Mariah). It's a big treasure for me. Streaming is boring to me, it's okay for just a quick listen. But to play a phycical media is something different. I enjoy and appreciate it much more. I love the booklets, the art of it. The same with books and E-Reader. I will always prefer a real book. What I do like is to watch Mariah videos online. But it's "dangerous", sometimes one can't stop because Mariah is too good and beautiful. (Monday 2 October 2023; 10:43) this is a reply to message 103,628

Is it time to get rid of physical media? (103,628) by Bobby A from United States Lol. I could never part with my 1990-1999 MC physical copies. I have so many variations of singles including UK and Japanese editions. Some of the 12" records are worth $200 dollars plus. I have laserdiscs that I am keeping for the nostalgia dahling. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 23:21)

The greats (103,630) by Mara from United States Ok, now I've come out of creeping on the board. Please do tell your encounter with the King of Lovlies himself George. (Monday 2 October 2023; 06:19) this is a reply to message 103,618

The greats (103,618) by Andrew from the UK Bobby-A: what have I told you about thinking? Don't to it to yourself. But here you may be right. I predict Last Christmas will do very well this year on the back of the Wham anniversary and Netflix documentary - which I recommend to any and everyone. Personally, I hitherto never clicked with the song . But I now love it because of nostalgia and a renewed love of George Michael - who I once met. Not sure if I've ever mentioned that. (Saturday 30 September 2023; 17:27)

The greats (103,629) by Bobby A from United States Sundays must be your beauty rest day. I was expecting to hear some more your critiques Andy boo. I will check back tomorrow. (Monday 2 October 2023; 04:21) this is a reply to message 103,618

The greats (103,618) by Andrew from the UK Bobby-A: what have I told you about thinking? Don't to it to yourself. But here you may be right. I predict Last Christmas will do very well this year on the back of the Wham anniversary and Netflix documentary - which I recommend to any and everyone. Personally, I hitherto never clicked with the song . But I now love it because of nostalgia and a renewed love of George Michael - who I once met. Not sure if I've ever mentioned that. (Saturday 30 September 2023; 17:27)

Is it time to get rid of physical media? (103,628) by Bobby A from United States Lol. I could never part with my 1990-1999 MC physical copies. I have so many variations of singles including UK and Japanese editions. Some of the 12" records are worth $200 dollars plus. I have laserdiscs that I am keeping for the nostalgia dahling. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 23:21) this is a reply to message 103,626

Is it time to get rid of physical media? (103,626) by Bill from the UK One day some major outage, malicious or accidental, will happen. When you send me a letter asking for my copy of the Right to Dream promo CD, I'll post it to you. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 19:21)

The greats (103,627) by Jamie from UK Spot on. And wow you met George, I'm very jealous. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 19:26) this is a reply to message 103,619

The greats (103,619) by Andrew from the UK Jamie I really do hope social media does one. It is horrid and vile. I dabbled in Facebook, Insta and X for a few months each in my time but my anxiety levels rose sharply, I was becoming addicted, falling down the rabbit hole many times. There was something magical about owning hardcopies of film and music media. My Mariah CD collection was a pride and a joy. Purchasing and adding a release to it was an event, not least the excitement and anticipation of going to Woolworths to buy it. And buy it with cash or a bank card. Handing over something physical to receive something physical in exchange allowed for a consideration of loss and gain within the transaction. As it is now, there is no true measurement of success or popularity, perhaps. I recognise how much of a dinosaur that makes me sound.Yet there a feeling of emptiness that streaming gives me. If something were to feature in social media ads or commentary, I will, like others, open Spotify immediately to play it. I would suggest that rather than hearing it on the radio and then committing to a journey to purchase it, the way of streaming is unrepresenative of how good something it. If something requires no significant commitment then artists' careers simply become self-perpetuating. The likes of Taylor Swift would not have survived in the 90's because their output is not as good, and the commitment from the end user would not have materialised. That Mariah was so popular 1990 - 2010 is something quire remarkable. (Saturday 30 September 2023; 17:42)

Is it time to get rid of physical media? (103,626) by Bill from the UK One day some major outage, malicious or accidental, will happen. When you send me a letter asking for my copy of the Right to Dream promo CD, I'll post it to you. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 19:21) this is a reply to message 103,625

Is it time to get rid of physical media? (103,625) by Randy from USA I know some of you all are die hard collectors and just clutched your pearls at my question. I mean it's for the nostalgia. I may be going through another move in 9 months and though I've whittled 586 CDs down to 30 in the last ten years, my Mariah collection is collecting dust. All my music is on my phone backed up by my computer. I also have the VHS and DVDs that never get touched because I can watch most of it on YouTube. You all know how much I revel in those memories of waiting out front of Sam Goody on a Tuesday morning to buy a CD. And I love the booklets. Even if I do keep them, how often am I gonna rifle through them? The rules to living minimalist is that if you don't touch it in one year, throw it away. Thoughts? (Sunday 1 October 2023; 15:45)

Is it time to get rid of physical media? (103,625) by Randy from USA I know some of you all are die hard collectors and just clutched your pearls at my question. I mean it's for the nostalgia. I may be going through another move in 9 months and though I've whittled 586 CDs down to 30 in the last ten years, my Mariah collection is collecting dust. All my music is on my phone backed up by my computer. I also have the VHS and DVDs that never get touched because I can watch most of it on YouTube. You all know how much I revel in those memories of waiting out front of Sam Goody on a Tuesday morning to buy a CD. And I love the booklets. Even if I do keep them, how often am I gonna rifle through them? The rules to living minimalist is that if you don't touch it in one year, throw it away. Thoughts? (Sunday 1 October 2023; 15:45)

Cher - Christmas (103,624) by SM from Citizen of the World It's 2023, Cher will not be giving Mariah competition this year lol. If I can recall, Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande were not even close to a threat when they both had Christmas songs out a few years ago. Even if AIWFCIY doesn't go back to number 1, I don't see Mariah getting upset nor should anyone else especially around Christmas time. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 12:51) this is a reply to message 103,622

Cher - Christmas (103,622) by Bobby A from United States Yes, that is what she has named her first album in 10 years. MC is going to have some competition this year. It will be released October 20th. The guest artist list is very impressive to include Darlene Love, Cyndi Lauper, Michael Buble, Stevie Wonder, and Tyga. The first single, DJ Play A Christmas Song will drop October 6, 2023. The album cover is typical carefree Cher in bedazzled blue jeans. It seems like Cher has been studying MC and her album is destined to be a huge seller this Christmas season. Now if JD produced some tracks, then we know she is eyeing a #1 Christmas song and album. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 02:52)

Drake gets his 12th number one (103,623) by Terna from Nigeria "...prolly too old to keep up huh." - I guess you're not on a spellchecker. Exactly my point, now stay outta my replies. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 03:21) this is a reply to message 103,605

Drake gets his 12th number one (103,605) by Andrew from the UK "I [guess] you're not on social media..." - What do you think *this* is? "...prolly too old to keep up huh." - I guess you're not on a spellchecker. "Well let me help you out with a short list:" - This is my point: the list is somewhat non-existent. Let's have a look: "1. "Fantasy" had a moment with Latto" - Two years ago. "2. "Its a Wrap" for months, so much she re–released it" - What number in the Billboard Charts did it reach? 3. "Touch My Body" is currently having its moment for the second time (if I'm correct)" - Do TikTok videos qualify as a 'resurgence'? I don't see Mariah booking a stadia tour on the back of them? "4. And there's "All I Want for Christmas" - You consider this a "resurgence" - it's an annual event. Behave. "All these are [streaming/social] media resurgences where the whole world lives and thrives off of these days." - That's about as spurious and as vague a comment as I have read on here. "Hope [you're] clear now." - No, but it was fun. I enjoyed ya. (Friday 29 September 2023; 17:00)

Cher - Christmas (103,622) by Bobby A from United States Yes, that is what she has named her first album in 10 years. MC is going to have some competition this year. It will be released October 20th. The guest artist list is very impressive to include Darlene Love, Cyndi Lauper, Michael Buble, Stevie Wonder, and Tyga. The first single, DJ Play A Christmas Song will drop October 6, 2023. The album cover is typical carefree Cher in bedazzled blue jeans. It seems like Cher has been studying MC and her album is destined to be a huge seller this Christmas season. Now if JD produced some tracks, then we know she is eyeing a #1 Christmas song and album. (Sunday 1 October 2023; 02:52)

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