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It just occured to me (105,597)
by Bobby A from United States
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It just occurred to me that it was very odd for MC to announce a Vegas resudency in the midst of recording a new album. 90s Mariah would have finished her album, released the first single and then done a residency. Something doesn't seem right after what she has talked about working on for the past 3 years. I am just saying, but what if she doesn't release MC16 this year. The business mind of MC seems to be out of alignment due to something that we are not privy to concerning her voice. Maybe I am wrong and I not really going to be patiently waiting this year.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 02:30)
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It just occured to me (105,592)
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"Ariana stans aren't 100% on board with the song itself." I'm referring of course to the Yes, And original version.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:22)
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It just occured to me (105,596)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I am hearing that YA OG has now climbed to the top 10 and no one can tell me the lambs didn't have a hand in getting it there by purchasing/streaming the remix, just like what the lambs did for BER, but looks like MC is not getting the credit once again.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 01:46)
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It just occured to me (105,592)
by jaker20 from US
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"Ariana stans aren't 100% on board with the song itself." I'm referring of course to the Yes, And original version.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:22)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,595)
by Tameka walker from United states
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I love Mariah but no one has taught me how to download. Back in the day when she put something out I would just go to the record store and buy it and so forth I was was the first one there to get it. I wish it was still that way or else I would have bought it and more than one copy to help her since I love her. Now the music business wants people to download and not everyone including me knows how to download music. I would love to learn. I will stream it.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 01:25)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,591)
by T from USA
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Billboard Hot 100 predictions are hot of the press and it looks like the remix has pushed the song to #11 on the Hot 100. Only one point from the top 10. It's also gained 48% since last week. Over 50% gains will get Mariah a credit. It would also give it the top 10 spot. So USA fans need to buy this, now, stream it like never before. Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Amazon, iTunes. Remember with streaming you have to switch songs in between for each individual streaming to count. But if it picks up a little more in the next two days Mariah could actually have a hit on her hands. It's now or never.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:20)
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Stacey and Robert (105,594)
by Stacey from USA
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I get it. I take my breaks too, just unannounced. I miss Stephen's posts. Remember him. Anyway, for me coming here is a break from madness that is life as a wife, working mom of three. I enjoy the banter then go back to that craziness as those peeps are most important to me. I don't take anything here too seriously or remember what happened six months ago. It ain't that deep. Carey on.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 01:14)
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Stacey and Robert (105,585)
by Edward from USA
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It's just little break. I'm not leaving board.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:35)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,593)
by jaker20 from US
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It is down to the wire.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 01:10)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,591)
by T from USA
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Billboard Hot 100 predictions are hot of the press and it looks like the remix has pushed the song to #11 on the Hot 100. Only one point from the top 10. It's also gained 48% since last week. Over 50% gains will get Mariah a credit. It would also give it the top 10 spot. So USA fans need to buy this, now, stream it like never before. Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Amazon, iTunes. Remember with streaming you have to switch songs in between for each individual streaming to count. But if it picks up a little more in the next two days Mariah could actually have a hit on her hands. It's now or never.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:20)
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It just occured to me (105,592)
by jaker20 from US
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"Ariana stans aren't 100% on board with the song itself." I'm referring of course to the Yes, And original version.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:22)
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It just occured to me (105,587)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ugh unfortunately. In 2018 I didn't even think they'd ever collaborate. Forget #1 at this point, I was hoping for a good chart placement, but it looks like Ariana's team has abandoned ship, because they're releasing new remixes of the OG version and I haven't seen a single new post promoting the collaboration since Day 1. I feel like the excitement was definitely there when they announced, but a few things lead to it just being another missed opportunity. (1) Ariana's current reputation of a homewrecker and yes, and? being taken as a "I'm a home wrecker, yes, and?" (2) People not feeling Mariah belting. (3) There wasn't much promo after first day. (4) Mariah doesn't have much streaming pull and the song would have been dependent on Ariana's huge streaming pull, but Ariana is going through a slump. (5) People thinking this song isn't Mariah's type. (6) The song had already peaked and was free falling, so hopping on the remix didn't really make the "shock" impact of the MC-AG that their teams were hoping for. Makes me sad that it looks like all MC's new eras are staying relevant for like what on average 24 hours. I feel like a few live performances, little videos of why they collaborated or how they landed on this song to collab and all would have added to the hype, also of course a replayable MV. But I guess that's a wrap. I was reading somewhere that they messaged a radio station regarding why the station was playing the remix instead of the original, but the station said they weren't sent the remix. So honestly it's just sad that these era's are getting shorter with every release.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:50)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,591)
by T from USA
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Billboard Hot 100 predictions are hot of the press and it looks like the remix has pushed the song to #11 on the Hot 100. Only one point from the top 10. It's also gained 48% since last week. Over 50% gains will get Mariah a credit. It would also give it the top 10 spot. So USA fans need to buy this, now, stream it like never before. Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Amazon, iTunes. Remember with streaming you have to switch songs in between for each individual streaming to count. But if it picks up a little more in the next two days Mariah could actually have a hit on her hands. It's now or never.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:20)
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It just occured to me (105,590)
by jaker20 from US
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From what I am reading, Ariana stans aren't 100% on board with the song itself. If lambs had high expectations for MC, imagine their expectations for Ariana who is supposed to be a more current of an artist and had been gone for a long time. They expect Ariana to give Taylor a run for her money and this is just not it.
So that's the whirlwind of negativity that Mariah's hopping into. Not to mention the cheating and homewrecker allegations.
Lambs should just enjoy the song and not get involved in that mess lol. It's not yet taking off, but I think it's a good addition to Mariah's remix catalog.
Like I said, I think Mariah did it just to return a favor, dipped her toes, but didn't completely jump in.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:20)
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It just occured to me (105,587)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ugh unfortunately. In 2018 I didn't even think they'd ever collaborate. Forget #1 at this point, I was hoping for a good chart placement, but it looks like Ariana's team has abandoned ship, because they're releasing new remixes of the OG version and I haven't seen a single new post promoting the collaboration since Day 1. I feel like the excitement was definitely there when they announced, but a few things lead to it just being another missed opportunity. (1) Ariana's current reputation of a homewrecker and yes, and? being taken as a "I'm a home wrecker, yes, and?" (2) People not feeling Mariah belting. (3) There wasn't much promo after first day. (4) Mariah doesn't have much streaming pull and the song would have been dependent on Ariana's huge streaming pull, but Ariana is going through a slump. (5) People thinking this song isn't Mariah's type. (6) The song had already peaked and was free falling, so hopping on the remix didn't really make the "shock" impact of the MC-AG that their teams were hoping for. Makes me sad that it looks like all MC's new eras are staying relevant for like what on average 24 hours. I feel like a few live performances, little videos of why they collaborated or how they landed on this song to collab and all would have added to the hype, also of course a replayable MV. But I guess that's a wrap. I was reading somewhere that they messaged a radio station regarding why the station was playing the remix instead of the original, but the station said they weren't sent the remix. So honestly it's just sad that these era's are getting shorter with every release.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:50)
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It just occured to me (105,589)
by T from USA
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Correct. Everyone has been pleading with Mariah to do an uptempo song in full voice, belting with all the bells and whistles. She answered that call for everyone and look what it got her. It's the biggest flop thing she's been attached to since Triumphant. At least Triumphant got some play. Anyone who expects Mariah to do this kind of music again or remixes of any nature are in for a big shock. I don't actually expect an album at all this year after this. At least I hope not. What kind of record label is seriously going to take a chance on her. Dismal sales, no radio or streaming. It would be too much work to have a successful project. Probably not even possible at this point. Look at independent artist Usher for example. He had a Halftime performance and still only sold 81k in his first week. If YAR was a smash hit and her remix brought it back to #1, then people would take notice, but not this. This is the worst thing for MC right now. I think she should take five years away after MC30th anniversary later this year. Come back at the end of the decade with something completely unexpected. Fresh, new but true to her. She's basically only got one more in her so she might as well take all the time she needs and do it 100 percent right. A Cher Believe situation.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 23:35)
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It just occured to me (105,587)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ugh unfortunately. In 2018 I didn't even think they'd ever collaborate. Forget #1 at this point, I was hoping for a good chart placement, but it looks like Ariana's team has abandoned ship, because they're releasing new remixes of the OG version and I haven't seen a single new post promoting the collaboration since Day 1. I feel like the excitement was definitely there when they announced, but a few things lead to it just being another missed opportunity. (1) Ariana's current reputation of a homewrecker and yes, and? being taken as a "I'm a home wrecker, yes, and?" (2) People not feeling Mariah belting. (3) There wasn't much promo after first day. (4) Mariah doesn't have much streaming pull and the song would have been dependent on Ariana's huge streaming pull, but Ariana is going through a slump. (5) People thinking this song isn't Mariah's type. (6) The song had already peaked and was free falling, so hopping on the remix didn't really make the "shock" impact of the MC-AG that their teams were hoping for. Makes me sad that it looks like all MC's new eras are staying relevant for like what on average 24 hours. I feel like a few live performances, little videos of why they collaborated or how they landed on this song to collab and all would have added to the hype, also of course a replayable MV. But I guess that's a wrap. I was reading somewhere that they messaged a radio station regarding why the station was playing the remix instead of the original, but the station said they weren't sent the remix. So honestly it's just sad that these era's are getting shorter with every release.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:50)
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Herd mentality (105,588)
by Tevin from USA
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Edward please don't leave.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 22:35)
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Herd mentality (105,576)
by Edward from USA
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I do not follow the herd mentality. It's perfectly fine if 99 percent of people love the "Yes, And?" remix. I've always advocated for people expressing their opinions here, even if they differ from my own. I will respectfully express my views, even if they diverge from the prevailing consensus.
I think it's time for me to take a break from this board. Peace to all.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:29)
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It just occured to me (105,587)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ugh unfortunately. In 2018 I didn't even think they'd ever collaborate. Forget #1 at this point, I was hoping for a good chart placement, but it looks like Ariana's team has abandoned ship, because they're releasing new remixes of the OG version and I haven't seen a single new post promoting the collaboration since Day 1. I feel like the excitement was definitely there when they announced, but a few things lead to it just being another missed opportunity. (1) Ariana's current reputation of a homewrecker and yes, and? being taken as a "I'm a home wrecker, yes, and?" (2) People not feeling Mariah belting. (3) There wasn't much promo after first day. (4) Mariah doesn't have much streaming pull and the song would have been dependent on Ariana's huge streaming pull, but Ariana is going through a slump. (5) People thinking this song isn't Mariah's type. (6) The song had already peaked and was free falling, so hopping on the remix didn't really make the "shock" impact of the MC-AG that their teams were hoping for. Makes me sad that it looks like all MC's new eras are staying relevant for like what on average 24 hours. I feel like a few live performances, little videos of why they collaborated or how they landed on this song to collab and all would have added to the hype, also of course a replayable MV. But I guess that's a wrap. I was reading somewhere that they messaged a radio station regarding why the station was playing the remix instead of the original, but the station said they weren't sent the remix. So honestly it's just sad that these era's are getting shorter with every release.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:50)
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It just occured to me (105,582)
by jaker20 from US
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That Mariah just had a collab with Ariana, and it's a remix. A 2018 me would think that if they ever work together, it's going to be the biggest news of the year, it's going to be an event, it's going be their song together and not one or the other just hopping in, and it'll debut at no.1 based on their names alone, whatever the quality of the song. Now that moment is gone. It cannot be repeated.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 20:37)
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Stacey and Robert (105,586)
by Bobby A from United States
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Okay. As long as you don't take two weeks off. This board would not be same if you left us Edward. Hurry MC.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:43)
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Stacey and Robert (105,585)
by Edward from USA
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It's just little break. I'm not leaving board.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:35)
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Stacey and Robert (105,585)
by Edward from USA
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It's just little break. I'm not leaving board.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:35)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,584)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I only pointed out the obvious, and suggested a solution. I do applaud fans such as Edward who call it as it is, without mincing words unapologetically. Now if only Mariah had even just one person on her team, that was bold enough to mirror the obvious observation.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:33)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,575)
by Edward from USA
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While you may not be a fashion expert, you still hold opinions on fashion, just as others may have opinions on medical matters. As I mentioned, these are simply opinions. While I might disagree with your opinion, I would never discourage you from expressing it.
One need not be an expert to recognize when Mariah doesn't look great in certain outfits, just as one need not be a doctor to sense when something is amiss health-wise with someone. Speculation is something we can all engage in, regardless of our expertise.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:14)
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Herd mentality (105,583)
by Bobby A from United States
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Don't leave Edward. We need you here. You have always supported me when the bully attacked me.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:07)
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Herd mentality (105,576)
by Edward from USA
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I do not follow the herd mentality. It's perfectly fine if 99 percent of people love the "Yes, And?" remix. I've always advocated for people expressing their opinions here, even if they differ from my own. I will respectfully express my views, even if they diverge from the prevailing consensus.
I think it's time for me to take a break from this board. Peace to all.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:29)
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It just occured to me (105,582)
by jaker20 from US
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That Mariah just had a collab with Ariana, and it's a remix. A 2018 me would think that if they ever work together, it's going to be the biggest news of the year, it's going to be an event, it's going be their song together and not one or the other just hopping in, and it'll debut at no.1 based on their names alone, whatever the quality of the song. Now that moment is gone. It cannot be repeated.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 20:37)
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Writing (105,581)
by jaker20 from US
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For the record, Mariah has written a bunch of songs for Allure and Trey Lorenz. I agree though, she should do it more often.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 20:28)
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Writing (105,578)
by Bobby A from United States
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I would for MC to form a new R&B girl group that she sets on the road to stardom using her 30 plus years in the music industry. They have to be in their early 20s so that they will listen to MC's guidance and expertise.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 19:02)
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Herd mentality (105,580)
by Stacey from USA
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No. Come back.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 20:12)
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Herd mentality (105,576)
by Edward from USA
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I do not follow the herd mentality. It's perfectly fine if 99 percent of people love the "Yes, And?" remix. I've always advocated for people expressing their opinions here, even if they differ from my own. I will respectfully express my views, even if they diverge from the prevailing consensus.
I think it's time for me to take a break from this board. Peace to all.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 17:29)
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Writing (105,579)
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Maybe she does under a different name.
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Writing (105,574)
by Edward from USA
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I believe this is something Mariah should have pursued long ago, especially considering the lengthy gaps between her album releases. Given her talent and experience, she could have been an exceptional record producer/lyricist for other artists. I wonder why she never chose to explore this avenue.
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Writing (105,578)
by Bobby A from United States
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I would for MC to form a new R&B girl group that she sets on the road to stardom using her 30 plus years in the music industry. They have to be in their early 20s so that they will listen to MC's guidance and expertise.
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Writing (105,572)
by Tevin from USA
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I really hope within the next couple of years Mariah starts writing and possibly produce songs for other people. Whether for pop stars or rnb singers, up and coming or established. What singers would you love Mariah to write and or produce songs for?
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,577)
by Bobby A from United States
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This is a hot topic today. MC should not keep us waiting for new music this long ever again.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 18:56)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,575)
by Edward from USA
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While you may not be a fashion expert, you still hold opinions on fashion, just as others may have opinions on medical matters. As I mentioned, these are simply opinions. While I might disagree with your opinion, I would never discourage you from expressing it.
One need not be an expert to recognize when Mariah doesn't look great in certain outfits, just as one need not be a doctor to sense when something is amiss health-wise with someone. Speculation is something we can all engage in, regardless of our expertise.
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Herd mentality (105,576)
by Edward from USA
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I do not follow the herd mentality. It's perfectly fine if 99 percent of people love the "Yes, And?" remix. I've always advocated for people expressing their opinions here, even if they differ from my own. I will respectfully express my views, even if they diverge from the prevailing consensus.
I think it's time for me to take a break from this board. Peace to all.
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,575)
by Edward from USA
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While you may not be a fashion expert, you still hold opinions on fashion, just as others may have opinions on medical matters. As I mentioned, these are simply opinions. While I might disagree with your opinion, I would never discourage you from expressing it.
One need not be an expert to recognize when Mariah doesn't look great in certain outfits, just as one need not be a doctor to sense when something is amiss health-wise with someone. Speculation is something we can all engage in, regardless of our expertise.
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,573)
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Being a doctor and fashion expert are two vastly different things. One deals with people's health, life and death and needs a very high level of expertise. Anyone can be a fashion expert you just need to have good taste and an eye for what's fashionable. It's not the same. It's not even a debate.
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by Edward from USA
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I believe this is something Mariah should have pursued long ago, especially considering the lengthy gaps between her album releases. Given her talent and experience, she could have been an exceptional record producer/lyricist for other artists. I wonder why she never chose to explore this avenue.
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Writing (105,572)
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I really hope within the next couple of years Mariah starts writing and possibly produce songs for other people. Whether for pop stars or rnb singers, up and coming or established. What singers would you love Mariah to write and or produce songs for?
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Being a doctor and fashion expert are two vastly different things. One deals with people's health, life and death and needs a very high level of expertise. Anyone can be a fashion expert you just need to have good taste and an eye for what's fashionable. It's not the same. It's not even a debate.
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,569)
by Edward from USA
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It's merely an opinion, akin to when you suggest certain outfits or styles for her to wear or not. You're not a fashion expert, just as I am not a doctor. However, we form our opinions based on what we observe. It's not as though Mariah is going to discard her wardrobe at the suggestion of one, or opt for surgical procedures at the suggestion of another.
Listening to the remix, it's apparent that there may be some significant issues with her voice. Whether we choose to gloss over it is a separate matter.
Considering we're discussing Mariah Carey here, the legend, hearing her on a remix sounding like this is quite perplexing to me, that's all. I now understand why she probably hasn't released new music in a such a long time.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:29)
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