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Writing (105,572)
by Tevin from USA
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I really hope within the next couple of years Mariah starts writing and possibly produce songs for other people. Whether for pop stars or rnb singers, up and coming or established. What singers would you love Mariah to write and or produce songs for?
(Monday 19 February 2024; 16:38)
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No, but (105,571)
by Edward from USA
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I wasn't fixated on the song's chart performance, my primary focus was Mariah matching Ariana's delivery. I didn't expect Mariah to overshadow Ariana or turn it into a vocal showdown, I just I simply hoped they'd harmonize well together.
Ariana didn't resing anything for the remix, much like how Mariah didn't resing anything for "Whenever You Call" with Brian McKnight. The ball was on Mariah's court, she had the opportunity to elevate the song with her input. A mere loud whistle or high note no longer suffices. Ariana's whistle notes seamlessly integrate into the song, whereas Mariah's feel less natural.
I'm hopeful that a proper collaboration between Mariah and Ariana on Mariah's next album will yield a timeless song akin to "When You Believe". Sorry if that's too much to ask.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:58)
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No, but (105,568)
by T from USA
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Worst case scenario. The song tanked off the Spotify top 200 in two days. People do not enjoy this song. We know how Mariah reacts when something bombs this bad. She will go in a completely different direction. Distance herself from this sound which means Max Martin no more. Dance music no more. Upbeat music with belting no more. Hoping on a younger artist's song no more. It's going to be slow beat ballads going forward lol.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:03)
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Yes, And, I Don't (105,570)
by Shezz from Pk
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Amen.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:45)
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Yes, And, I Don't (105,563)
by Jamie from UK
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I think this track is what it is, I like the song. I liked it when it was just Ariana. Having Mariah on it now singing up beat is music to my ears. Is it Mariah's best performance no, but is it really her worst? I'd rather have this over I Don't any day. I think we need to cut her some slack, she's never gonna blow us away as she once did, she's 54 this year and unfortunately has declining vocals which I'm sure she herself is very well aware of. I was actually quite happy with her vocals on this track, let's be honest we've heard worse over the last few years. For a long time now we've been asking for Mariah to get herself together, she's finally started to clean up her act, her public presence and persona is back up to where it should be, her PR is back to where it should be and she's getting lots of attention and respect from fellow artists. Yet we continue to dissect everything she does and bash her when she finally does something positive. I would love Mariah to have her full 90's vocals back and to some degree her personality, but unfortunately it's not gonna happen. Vocal decline has happened for various reasons and she suffered a major breakdown which has changed her as it would. Not forgetting she's been living this famous life for a long time now and as much as stars say they haven't changed. They always do over time one way or another, hey non famous people change over time believe it or not. Nobody is the same or doing the same things as they once did 25 plus years ago. But instead of tearing her down let's give her praise for still being here, making music and gracing us with her presence for nearly 34 years, I'd much rather have her still with us than not. The track isn't that bad and who knows what's in-store for us this year on her solo projects. Let's celebrate Mariah.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 03:14)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,569)
by Edward from USA
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It's merely an opinion, akin to when you suggest certain outfits or styles for her to wear or not. You're not a fashion expert, just as I am not a doctor. However, we form our opinions based on what we observe. It's not as though Mariah is going to discard her wardrobe at the suggestion of one, or opt for surgical procedures at the suggestion of another.
Listening to the remix, it's apparent that there may be some significant issues with her voice. Whether we choose to gloss over it is a separate matter.
Considering we're discussing Mariah Carey here, the legend, hearing her on a remix sounding like this is quite perplexing to me, that's all. I now understand why she probably hasn't released new music in a such a long time.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:29)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,567)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I said this before and I'll say it again, let us leave the sentiments at constructive criticism and avoid giving out medical advice. She's in her 50s, there could be a lot of reasons why she would want to avoid a surgery. We don't know if there's any risk to her health. Also even if there are no risks to her health, we should not be telling her what procedures she needs to do. We're not doctors and if any of you are, you haven't treated her. Also just out of basic decency, it's a no no.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 11:47)
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No, but (105,568)
by T from USA
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Worst case scenario. The song tanked off the Spotify top 200 in two days. People do not enjoy this song. We know how Mariah reacts when something bombs this bad. She will go in a completely different direction. Distance herself from this sound which means Max Martin no more. Dance music no more. Upbeat music with belting no more. Hoping on a younger artist's song no more. It's going to be slow beat ballads going forward lol.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 15:03)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,567)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I said this before and I'll say it again, let us leave the sentiments at constructive criticism and avoid giving out medical advice. She's in her 50s, there could be a lot of reasons why she would want to avoid a surgery. We don't know if there's any risk to her health. Also even if there are no risks to her health, we should not be telling her what procedures she needs to do. We're not doctors and if any of you are, you haven't treated her. Also just out of basic decency, it's a no no.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 11:47)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,559)
by Edward from USA
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I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. It's perplexing how even studio production couldn't conceal or refine her delivery on the "Yes, And?" remix. Your point about the microphone possibly capturing the true state of her voice makes sense. Considering this is the best she could come up with even with studio manipulations, it leaves me curious about the raw quality of her vocals. At this stage, when even her whistle register is lacking its usual brilliance, I believe it might be prudent for her to consider undergoing vocal nodule removal.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 01:43)
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Let's get it to number one (105,566)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you Edward for the clarification. It's been so long since MC had a ride in the Billboard 10. All of these new chart rules are so confusing. Will we know Tuesday or Wednesday?
(Monday 19 February 2024; 11:46)
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Let's get it to number one (105,561)
by Edward from USA
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Both versions of the song are considered as one for charting purposes, with only the most popular version being displayed on the charts. This was the case with the Big Energy Remix; while it certainly boosted the original track's visibility, it didn't surpass its popularity. Consequently, Mariah's version didn't appear on the charts. It's not that she wasn't credited, she was, but the version she was credited for wasn't the most popular one.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 01:52)
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Yes, And, I Don't (105,565)
by Bobby A from United States
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Great post Jamie. At this point, I hope she gives us MC16. I would accept MIAM vocals and be happy. Her vocal decline is too far gone now that I think surgery on her nodules would not help at this point. Can she give us Fantasy type of vocals? Probably not. Will she be able to give us TMB or #Beautiful type of vocals? I think she will be able to that. TCOM Vegas shows will let us know the type vocals we can expect. However, I feel the shows will be 70% lipped to a backing track.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 11:43)
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Yes, And, I Don't (105,563)
by Jamie from UK
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I think this track is what it is, I like the song. I liked it when it was just Ariana. Having Mariah on it now singing up beat is music to my ears. Is it Mariah's best performance no, but is it really her worst? I'd rather have this over I Don't any day. I think we need to cut her some slack, she's never gonna blow us away as she once did, she's 54 this year and unfortunately has declining vocals which I'm sure she herself is very well aware of. I was actually quite happy with her vocals on this track, let's be honest we've heard worse over the last few years. For a long time now we've been asking for Mariah to get herself together, she's finally started to clean up her act, her public presence and persona is back up to where it should be, her PR is back to where it should be and she's getting lots of attention and respect from fellow artists. Yet we continue to dissect everything she does and bash her when she finally does something positive. I would love Mariah to have her full 90's vocals back and to some degree her personality, but unfortunately it's not gonna happen. Vocal decline has happened for various reasons and she suffered a major breakdown which has changed her as it would. Not forgetting she's been living this famous life for a long time now and as much as stars say they haven't changed. They always do over time one way or another, hey non famous people change over time believe it or not. Nobody is the same or doing the same things as they once did 25 plus years ago. But instead of tearing her down let's give her praise for still being here, making music and gracing us with her presence for nearly 34 years, I'd much rather have her still with us than not. The track isn't that bad and who knows what's in-store for us this year on her solo projects. Let's celebrate Mariah.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 03:14)
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Exhausting (105,564)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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It is exhausting to read comments about this horrible song and colab. I can't wait for it to pass and Mariah to release her stuff.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 11:17)
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Yes, And, I Don't (105,563)
by Jamie from UK
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I think this track is what it is, I like the song. I liked it when it was just Ariana. Having Mariah on it now singing up beat is music to my ears. Is it Mariah's best performance no, but is it really her worst? I'd rather have this over I Don't any day. I think we need to cut her some slack, she's never gonna blow us away as she once did, she's 54 this year and unfortunately has declining vocals which I'm sure she herself is very well aware of. I was actually quite happy with her vocals on this track, let's be honest we've heard worse over the last few years. For a long time now we've been asking for Mariah to get herself together, she's finally started to clean up her act, her public presence and persona is back up to where it should be, her PR is back to where it should be and she's getting lots of attention and respect from fellow artists. Yet we continue to dissect everything she does and bash her when she finally does something positive. I would love Mariah to have her full 90's vocals back and to some degree her personality, but unfortunately it's not gonna happen. Vocal decline has happened for various reasons and she suffered a major breakdown which has changed her as it would. Not forgetting she's been living this famous life for a long time now and as much as stars say they haven't changed. They always do over time one way or another, hey non famous people change over time believe it or not. Nobody is the same or doing the same things as they once did 25 plus years ago. But instead of tearing her down let's give her praise for still being here, making music and gracing us with her presence for nearly 34 years, I'd much rather have her still with us than not. The track isn't that bad and who knows what's in-store for us this year on her solo projects. Let's celebrate Mariah.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 03:14)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,562)
by Anonymous from USA
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For the record, I was not speaking of you in my rant. I know you've never had anything negative to say about MC and I respect that. Also, when I told you to shut up a few years back, I didn't mean that for you either, I meant that for "he who shall not be named", you know who, but I accidentally replied to your post and I just never cleared the air so I'm sorry about that. Also, I'm glad you found the clean version of Yes, And. I don't have children, so in my everyday life I do indulge in curse words and don't think much about it, but I understand and respect your views on this.
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,554)
by Stacey from USA
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Speaking personally, I've had nothing but positive things to say about Yes? And. Just drop the cuss words. They serve no purpose.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 23:44)
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Let's get it to number one (105,561)
by Edward from USA
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Both versions of the song are considered as one for charting purposes, with only the most popular version being displayed on the charts. This was the case with the Big Energy Remix; while it certainly boosted the original track's visibility, it didn't surpass its popularity. Consequently, Mariah's version didn't appear on the charts. It's not that she wasn't credited, she was, but the version she was credited for wasn't the most popular one.
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Let's get it to number one (105,549)
by Bobby A from United States
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I was looking at the current Top 40 Mediabase Chart for radio impressions and the original version is sitting at #13. Is there a chance that the remix and original version will just be counted together for next week's Billboard Hot 100. Or will it have to be calculated like this?
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 21:09)
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Hall of Fame (105,560)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Thank you for letting me know.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 01:46)
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Hall of Fame (105,557)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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So I hear the result is not based on fan votes at all but instead by a panel from the industry. Apparently the last time the top 3 fan voted ones were not the ones that were inducted.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 00:05)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,559)
by Edward from USA
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I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. It's perplexing how even studio production couldn't conceal or refine her delivery on the "Yes, And?" remix. Your point about the microphone possibly capturing the true state of her voice makes sense. Considering this is the best she could come up with even with studio manipulations, it leaves me curious about the raw quality of her vocals. At this stage, when even her whistle register is lacking its usual brilliance, I believe it might be prudent for her to consider undergoing vocal nodule removal.
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,548)
by Terna from Nigeria
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The new song has been well received, which is good. However I have to be honest here, Mariah does not sound good on recording anymore. She can mask it in live performances, but in the studio, the microphone picks it up ever so easily - that metallic edge in her voice has gotten gravelly and more jarring as she has aged and her mid register is virtually impossible to access without pushing thus the hefty "shouty" belts, her singing now lacks a mix and fluidity key elements for the type of singer she is, with a repertoire that relies heavily on agility and the ease of singing she used to have. I know she's very much aware of this and this message is not in any means or way trying to disrespect her, or make fun of her, this comes from a place of absolute love. I respect the work she's done in music and acknowledge her contributions. However I do feel it's time Mariah considered vocal nodule surgery. At this point they have become obstructive and she cannot sing through or around them like she used to ("My All" comes to mind, you can really hear it on that song). I wish her only the best and a successful surgery should she choose to.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 21:00)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,558)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Hahahaha, this might be a cultural thing, but using the actual language that you use in your regular life is actually beneficial. The moment my interview drops the f bomb in our interview (which always happens), I adapt to their energy and happily communicate in their preferred vernacular. I wouldn't swear first, but if they do, I got it. [censored] or [censored] - who cares what term you use, it's the same reference. Sex vs. [censored], it's the same reference. Your personal inference on a word is your personal relation.
As a successful professional, I've never met an executive that doesn't curse. Again; I just want to restate my positions on language, it's an ever evolving art, and it has nothing to do with age, or your work place. It's expression. We've always wanted to call someone a name; that's a universal expression of emotion.
Stacy, I always respect you, I understand your point, I don't agree, but I fully respect your position.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 01:07)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,555)
by Stacey from USA
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I'll just say this: Drop the sh-word and f-word in a your next job interview and see if they hire you. I've never understood the need to use cuss words.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 23:47)
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Hall of Fame (105,557)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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So I hear the result is not based on fan votes at all but instead by a panel from the industry. Apparently the last time the top 3 fan voted ones were not the ones that were inducted.
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Hall of Fame (105,552)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Don't forget to vote Rock and Roll Hall of Fame while trying to get "yes and" up the charts.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 22:51)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,556)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I respect that Stacy. I understand your point. Thank you for always remaining respectful even when you disagree.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 23:49)
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by Stacey from USA
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Speaking personally, I've had nothing but positive things to say about Yes? And. Just drop the cuss words. They serve no purpose.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 23:44)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,555)
by Stacey from USA
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I'll just say this: Drop the sh-word and f-word in a your next job interview and see if they hire you. I've never understood the need to use cuss words.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 23:47)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,553)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Jaker, "extra gatekeeping" is a great way of putting it. Thank goodness censored versions of songs have always been played on traditional radio and readily available to stream if that's what you prefer.
The power of GTFO without the actual word loses its power as a song and expression. Even in "It's a wrap", the "put all your sh** in an elevator" or "I should have never given you my [censored] two way" from Clown, lines are so much more expressive and true to the anger the song is projecting (which is the art) then say "put all your stuff in an elevator".
Swearing isn't about age, that's obscured. if you're in your 30's, 40's, 50's and you believe you've out grown curse words, what age range is curse words bond to? I can tell you you won't want it to be your children, teens your young 20's using those words if that's your view on using expressive language. Words only mean something when you put meaning to them.
If curse words are what you're worried your children will hear, I'm sorry, but as a parent in 2024 that's the least of your worries. Say ummm like a criminal eligible to be a global leader, or people not having the freedom to express themselves without death because of how they were born. Those are things to teach the next generation, language is only but a tool of expression.
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by Stacey from USA
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Speaking personally, I've had nothing but positive things to say about Yes? And. Just drop the cuss words. They serve no purpose.
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by Anonymous from USA
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I couldn't agree more Matty. We have no right to censor the artist. Some here won't like anything MC puts out regardless. I personally enjoy the music and will support all of MC's efforts. Basically, if Mariah likes it, then I like it. Consider the records a gift. One day MC will no longer be here and they've sat there complaining and waiting for projects that will never come. Instead, they could be more supportive and be grateful, it shouldn't be hard for her biggest fans. If they can't do that it's ok but, with all due respect, maybe it's time to move on.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 04:18)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,553)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Jaker, "extra gatekeeping" is a great way of putting it. Thank goodness censored versions of songs have always been played on traditional radio and readily available to stream if that's what you prefer.
The power of GTFO without the actual word loses its power as a song and expression. Even in "It's a wrap", the "put all your sh** in an elevator" or "I should have never given you my [censored] two way" from Clown, lines are so much more expressive and true to the anger the song is projecting (which is the art) then say "put all your stuff in an elevator".
Swearing isn't about age, that's obscured. if you're in your 30's, 40's, 50's and you believe you've out grown curse words, what age range is curse words bond to? I can tell you you won't want it to be your children, teens your young 20's using those words if that's your view on using expressive language. Words only mean something when you put meaning to them.
If curse words are what you're worried your children will hear, I'm sorry, but as a parent in 2024 that's the least of your worries. Say ummm like a criminal eligible to be a global leader, or people not having the freedom to express themselves without death because of how they were born. Those are things to teach the next generation, language is only but a tool of expression.
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by jaker20 from US
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I'm personally more for not censoring the artist and let Mariah do what she wants. Artists are supposed to express themselves and at this point of Mariah's career, thinking if she should cuss or not should be the least of her concerns.
Mariah, the person, has so many facets and it would be great to see those sides of her, and not write again about when your hero will come along to cast your fears aside or if its supposed to be for people who lost their grandmothers. I love them, I absolutely love those songs. But telling her not to use some lame cuss word in a song which is censored anyway because it might terrify the kids is being extra gatekeeping imo.
And let me remind she's barely released anything anymore, like at all, and hopefully it's not because she cares way too much about what others will say to the point of dropping ideas each time. In fact, I would to argue that it was GTFO and Caution are the highlights in terms of depth that lit her late 2010s career revival.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 22:20)
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Hall of Fame (105,552)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Don't forget to vote Rock and Roll Hall of Fame while trying to get "yes and" up the charts.
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by jaker20 from US
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I'm personally more for not censoring the artist and let Mariah do what she wants. Artists are supposed to express themselves and at this point of Mariah's career, thinking if she should cuss or not should be the least of her concerns.
Mariah, the person, has so many facets and it would be great to see those sides of her, and not write again about when your hero will come along to cast your fears aside or if its supposed to be for people who lost their grandmothers. I love them, I absolutely love those songs. But telling her not to use some lame cuss word in a song which is censored anyway because it might terrify the kids is being extra gatekeeping imo.
And let me remind she's barely released anything anymore, like at all, and hopefully it's not because she cares way too much about what others will say to the point of dropping ideas each time. In fact, I would to argue that it was GTFO and Caution are the highlights in terms of depth that lit her late 2010s career revival.
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by Tevin from USA
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Sorry I don't agree with you. Some people like listening to songs around their young children. One of the reasons why I became a fan of Mariah was because my parents used to play her music all the time around me as I grew up. If she cussed up a storm back in the 90s and early 2000s, my parents would not have played her music around me and guess what, I probably would not have become a fan.
My point is, it's easy to look at it through adults eyes, but some people may not like to play explicit lyrics around their kids. Also (this isn't always the case), but I find more and more in today's music that lyrical content has become so lazy now that cussing and other explicitness can be freely said in music. There's one thing to have a strong emotion behind a song to use a cus word, there's a completely different reason to just be lazy and throw in words here and there, because you formulate a strong thought or emotion into a lyric. Basically what I'm saying is that many popular songs have lost their depth.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:25)
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by Edward from USA
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The good thing is that they usually release clean versions nowadays. In Mariah's defense though, she didn't write the cuss parts on the song.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 22:12)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,545)
by Tevin from USA
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Sorry I don't agree with you. Some people like listening to songs around their young children. One of the reasons why I became a fan of Mariah was because my parents used to play her music all the time around me as I grew up. If she cussed up a storm back in the 90s and early 2000s, my parents would not have played her music around me and guess what, I probably would not have become a fan.
My point is, it's easy to look at it through adults eyes, but some people may not like to play explicit lyrics around their kids. Also (this isn't always the case), but I find more and more in today's music that lyrical content has become so lazy now that cussing and other explicitness can be freely said in music. There's one thing to have a strong emotion behind a song to use a cus word, there's a completely different reason to just be lazy and throw in words here and there, because you formulate a strong thought or emotion into a lyric. Basically what I'm saying is that many popular songs have lost their depth.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:25)
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Let's get it to number one (105,549)
by Bobby A from United States
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I was looking at the current Top 40 Mediabase Chart for radio impressions and the original version is sitting at #13. Is there a chance that the remix and original version will just be counted together for next week's Billboard Hot 100. Or will it have to be calculated like this?
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 21:09)
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Let's get it to number one (105,547)
by jaker20 from US
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I heard the Yes, And remix the other day. It was their big "new music this week" with a drumroll announcement. Don't be surprised if it gains some traction on radio, especially on the club radio stations.
But expecting it to go to number one is too much to ask. I feel like it was just Mariah returning a favor to Ariana for appearing on stage with her and JHud last Christmas, and nothing more. They seem to enjoy each other and that's great to see.
I just hope Mariah is more consistent with her releases. There is some buzz right now. She should have a follow up in 3 to 4 weeks, the same way that she should have a follow up immediately after BER blew up, and the same way she should have a follow up every Christmas on January.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:42)
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And yes, Mariah's sound (105,548)
by Terna from Nigeria
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The new song has been well received, which is good. However I have to be honest here, Mariah does not sound good on recording anymore. She can mask it in live performances, but in the studio, the microphone picks it up ever so easily - that metallic edge in her voice has gotten gravelly and more jarring as she has aged and her mid register is virtually impossible to access without pushing thus the hefty "shouty" belts, her singing now lacks a mix and fluidity key elements for the type of singer she is, with a repertoire that relies heavily on agility and the ease of singing she used to have. I know she's very much aware of this and this message is not in any means or way trying to disrespect her, or make fun of her, this comes from a place of absolute love. I respect the work she's done in music and acknowledge her contributions. However I do feel it's time Mariah considered vocal nodule surgery. At this point they have become obstructive and she cannot sing through or around them like she used to ("My All" comes to mind, you can really hear it on that song). I wish her only the best and a successful surgery should she choose to.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 21:00)
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