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The real reason for no respect (102,291) by Randy from USA If you listen to early producers on her album, Narada Michael Walden for example, MC was a perfectionist. She re recorded I Don't Wanna Cry one hundred times until it was perfect. The audience has never seen a showy performance the likes of Whitney, Patti or Christina. And y'all keep talking about the nuances of her voice but to be honest the public doesn't care. Look how nervous she was singing Vision of Love at the 91 Grammys. Fixing her dress constantly. A flat run on "love". She had an amazing voice but didn't know what to do with it. Live performances make you and the only time I've ever seen MC sing beyond what the record entailed was Tokyo Dome in 96. As a songwriter she was unmatched. A friend of mine recently said, she was probably better off as a songwriter producer and Tommy forced her to be a singing star. (Monday 6 March 2023; 00:11)

Chaka Khan (102,290) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post. Absolutely yes to this "the fact that she was stunningly beautiful and an equally uniquely phenomenal singer as she was a songwriter, which definitely caused envy, because honestly which one of her contemporaries was actually doing it like her?" I think most of the people were simply jealous of her because of all the reasons. She was too perfect, she had everything. It's like you said, the most wonderful voice, the look and her powerful husband back then. Plus her charisma, charming and sweet. I was just watching "Without you", "One sweet day" and "Thank God I found you" on YouTube, I've watched hundred times in my life and I'm still blown away about her talent and her voice. Plus she has the most beautiful smile and eyes. Superstar power all over. (Sunday 5 March 2023; 17:13) this is a reply to message 102,288

Chaka Khan (102,288) by Mirage_Nunez from America My personal theory is there's multiple layers as to why Mariah was never as celebrated as Whitney (and Beyoncé) ie the industry favorite. I honestly feel like the Whitney comparisons in the beginning is/was a factor. Everyone lauded Whitney as the undisputed best voice ever, until MC hit the scene and shook things up a bit. I believe many people who were diehard Whitney supporters, felt the need to downplay Mariah's talent and success) in solidarity to Whitney Houston. The supposed rivalry created this (most of the time) unspoken great divide. Then there's Tommy. I believe he had a lot to do with her lack of Grammy wins for multiple reasons. I'll start with the fact that he tried to use Mariah passing for white as a privilege. I know first hand that this perception that "Mariah didn't want people to know that she was part black at first" hurt her in the court of public opinion specifically in the black community back then, and maybe in the industry amongst her black peers. Then there's the machine that was behind her, the fact that she was stunningly beautiful and an equally uniquely phenomenal singer as she was a songwriter, which definitely caused envy, because honestly which one of her contemporaries was actually doing it like her? Seriously, until this day nobody is really doing it on the level Mariah did it as a singer/songwriter. So yes people were jealous and bias against her, and what made it worse is that they couldn't honestly with a good heart deny her extraordinary talent. Like many have said, she actually has the chops to back up all the astronomical success she's had. I don't care what generation you come from, one thing that you absolutely can not do is deny Mariah's talent and impact. She's one of the most ordained purposeful artist ever, so trying to discredit her in any way falls very short and holds no weight. I've read the comments and the people ie the general public unanimously agreed that Mariah deserved to be in the top five. That's all that matters. She's always been the peoples champ and not the industry favorite. Like many have stated no amount of payola in the world can cause people to really purchase your music, watch your videos, and curate three decades of continuous organic success. My second favorite female singer is simply straight up jealous of my first favorite, and she resents the fact that her solo career wasn't as illustrious as Mariah's. Also allow me to add that, I specifically liked Chaka Khan with the band Rufus, I may like only a couple of her solo hits, so that's that. Maybe she also resents that her best music is connected to the band and not just her, unlike Mariah who's a stand alone hit maker. (Sunday 5 March 2023; 07:48)

Music this year (102,289) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, sadly the golden days of music are over. I miss heart and soul in the music. In the past we had wonderful melodies with good lyrics or at least music that was fun (like summer hits and so on). Hopefully there will come a time where good music will have a comeback. I listen a lot to Soul and Jazz besides Mariah. And those old songs are all masterpieces and the artists were really artists who could sing or play. It's unbelievable that songs with that quality are often 50-60 years old. (Sunday 5 March 2023; 16:54) this is a reply to message 102,287

Music this year (102,287) by Bobby A from United States Music has been very boring and no excitement on the pop radio this year. I really feel this is the trend that is here to stay for a very long time. I do like the new Kali Uchis album Red Moon On Venus. It is a moody dreamy album about heartbreak. (Saturday 4 March 2023; 18:39)

Chaka Khan (102,288) by Mirage_Nunez from America My personal theory is there's multiple layers as to why Mariah was never as celebrated as Whitney (and Beyoncé) ie the industry favorite. I honestly feel like the Whitney comparisons in the beginning is/was a factor. Everyone lauded Whitney as the undisputed best voice ever, until MC hit the scene and shook things up a bit. I believe many people who were diehard Whitney supporters, felt the need to downplay Mariah's talent and success) in solidarity to Whitney Houston. The supposed rivalry created this (most of the time) unspoken great divide. Then there's Tommy. I believe he had a lot to do with her lack of Grammy wins for multiple reasons. I'll start with the fact that he tried to use Mariah passing for white as a privilege. I know first hand that this perception that "Mariah didn't want people to know that she was part black at first" hurt her in the court of public opinion specifically in the black community back then, and maybe in the industry amongst her black peers. Then there's the machine that was behind her, the fact that she was stunningly beautiful and an equally uniquely phenomenal singer as she was a songwriter, which definitely caused envy, because honestly which one of her contemporaries was actually doing it like her? Seriously, until this day nobody is really doing it on the level Mariah did it as a singer/songwriter. So yes people were jealous and bias against her, and what made it worse is that they couldn't honestly with a good heart deny her extraordinary talent. Like many have said, she actually has the chops to back up all the astronomical success she's had. I don't care what generation you come from, one thing that you absolutely can not do is deny Mariah's talent and impact. She's one of the most ordained purposeful artist ever, so trying to discredit her in any way falls very short and holds no weight. I've read the comments and the people ie the general public unanimously agreed that Mariah deserved to be in the top five. That's all that matters. She's always been the peoples champ and not the industry favorite. Like many have stated no amount of payola in the world can cause people to really purchase your music, watch your videos, and curate three decades of continuous organic success. My second favorite female singer is simply straight up jealous of my first favorite, and she resents the fact that her solo career wasn't as illustrious as Mariah's. Also allow me to add that, I specifically liked Chaka Khan with the band Rufus, I may like only a couple of her solo hits, so that's that. Maybe she also resents that her best music is connected to the band and not just her, unlike Mariah who's a stand alone hit maker. (Sunday 5 March 2023; 07:48) this is a reply to message 102,282

Chaka Khan (102,282) by Bobby A from United States Why do you think that MC is disliked by so many female artists? Could it be the Tommy Motolla effect? How many other female artists have had so enormous push and financial investment from their label like MC had? None that I can think of. From 1990-1999, there were no other female artists bigger than MC and other female singers disliked MC during that time for it. Once the Tommy Mottolla effect wavered, MC's popularity decreased and the haters started speaking. To be honest, Tommy, MC and Sony did make a mighty team during her popularity and chart reign. Taylor Swift would have never had the same chart success like MC did in 90s. And Chaka is just mad because of what she could never achieve as a solo artist like MC did. (Friday 3 March 2023; 23:54)

Music this year (102,287) by Bobby A from United States Music has been very boring and no excitement on the pop radio this year. I really feel this is the trend that is here to stay for a very long time. I do like the new Kali Uchis album Red Moon On Venus. It is a moody dreamy album about heartbreak. (Saturday 4 March 2023; 18:39)

Chaka Khan (102,286) by Chicago Lamb from USA We nor Mariah should take this personally. Chaka speaks her mind, and can shade left and right. It's Chaka's own little way to keep herself relevant. Not saying it's the correct way to express one's self, but that's Chaka. Mariah and others on the "list" are above it. Literally and figuratively. I love Chaka anyway. (Saturday 4 March 2023; 12:56) this is a reply to message 102,284

Chaka Khan (102,284) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter No matter how much money you put on an artist they can't have continuous success if they didn't have an X factor. And Mariah has it. She's not only a remarkable vocalist, she's a songwriter, she had an elusive persona, a sexy girl next door persona, and an outsider looking in persona. There's more to Mariah Carey than her voice, she was the whole package and that's why Tommy's investment paid off. Mariah saw a low phase after Tommy only because he was actively sabotaging her. She came back like a Phoenix with TEOM. How many artists can claim to still be as relevant as her after 3 decades. Haters (like Miss Chaka) can attribute her success to men and labels but Mariah is Mariah because she was born to be a star. Like in Loverboy Mariah should live the motto of "hate on me as much as you want to, you can't do what the [...] I do, bishes be emulating me dailyyyy". (Saturday 4 March 2023; 05:30)

Chaka Khan (102,285) by Bill from the UK "Like in Loverboy Mariah should live the motto of 'hate on me as much as you want to, you can't do what the [...] I do, bishes be emulating me dailyyyy'." That's probably why nobody likes her. (Saturday 4 March 2023; 12:37) this is a reply to message 102,284

Chaka Khan (102,284) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter No matter how much money you put on an artist they can't have continuous success if they didn't have an X factor. And Mariah has it. She's not only a remarkable vocalist, she's a songwriter, she had an elusive persona, a sexy girl next door persona, and an outsider looking in persona. There's more to Mariah Carey than her voice, she was the whole package and that's why Tommy's investment paid off. Mariah saw a low phase after Tommy only because he was actively sabotaging her. She came back like a Phoenix with TEOM. How many artists can claim to still be as relevant as her after 3 decades. Haters (like Miss Chaka) can attribute her success to men and labels but Mariah is Mariah because she was born to be a star. Like in Loverboy Mariah should live the motto of "hate on me as much as you want to, you can't do what the [...] I do, bishes be emulating me dailyyyy". (Saturday 4 March 2023; 05:30)

Chaka Khan (102,284) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter No matter how much money you put on an artist they can't have continuous success if they didn't have an X factor. And Mariah has it. She's not only a remarkable vocalist, she's a songwriter, she had an elusive persona, a sexy girl next door persona, and an outsider looking in persona. There's more to Mariah Carey than her voice, she was the whole package and that's why Tommy's investment paid off. Mariah saw a low phase after Tommy only because he was actively sabotaging her. She came back like a Phoenix with TEOM. How many artists can claim to still be as relevant as her after 3 decades. Haters (like Miss Chaka) can attribute her success to men and labels but Mariah is Mariah because she was born to be a star. Like in Loverboy Mariah should live the motto of "hate on me as much as you want to, you can't do what the [...] I do, bishes be emulating me dailyyyy". (Saturday 4 March 2023; 05:30) this is a reply to message 102,282

Chaka Khan (102,282) by Bobby A from United States Why do you think that MC is disliked by so many female artists? Could it be the Tommy Motolla effect? How many other female artists have had so enormous push and financial investment from their label like MC had? None that I can think of. From 1990-1999, there were no other female artists bigger than MC and other female singers disliked MC during that time for it. Once the Tommy Mottolla effect wavered, MC's popularity decreased and the haters started speaking. To be honest, Tommy, MC and Sony did make a mighty team during her popularity and chart reign. Taylor Swift would have never had the same chart success like MC did in 90s. And Chaka is just mad because of what she could never achieve as a solo artist like MC did. (Friday 3 March 2023; 23:54)

Chaka Khan (102,283) by Lee from USA And she continued to do so without him. (Saturday 4 March 2023; 03:03) this is a reply to message 102,282

Chaka Khan (102,282) by Bobby A from United States Why do you think that MC is disliked by so many female artists? Could it be the Tommy Motolla effect? How many other female artists have had so enormous push and financial investment from their label like MC had? None that I can think of. From 1990-1999, there were no other female artists bigger than MC and other female singers disliked MC during that time for it. Once the Tommy Mottolla effect wavered, MC's popularity decreased and the haters started speaking. To be honest, Tommy, MC and Sony did make a mighty team during her popularity and chart reign. Taylor Swift would have never had the same chart success like MC did in 90s. And Chaka is just mad because of what she could never achieve as a solo artist like MC did. (Friday 3 March 2023; 23:54)

Chaka Khan (102,282) by Bobby A from United States Why do you think that MC is disliked by so many female artists? Could it be the Tommy Motolla effect? How many other female artists have had so enormous push and financial investment from their label like MC had? None that I can think of. From 1990-1999, there were no other female artists bigger than MC and other female singers disliked MC during that time for it. Once the Tommy Mottolla effect wavered, MC's popularity decreased and the haters started speaking. To be honest, Tommy, MC and Sony did make a mighty team during her popularity and chart reign. Taylor Swift would have never had the same chart success like MC did in 90s. And Chaka is just mad because of what she could never achieve as a solo artist like MC did. (Friday 3 March 2023; 23:54) this is a reply to message 102,276

Chaka Khan (102,276) by Mirage_Nunez from America I agree. How disappointing. And I am a huge Chaka Khan fan, she has always been in my top 3 (maybe even 2 behind MC), so I won't take that away from her, but I found her commentary very distasteful especially what she said about MJB. She don't deserve to be blasted like that publicly. I'm just gonna chose to chalk it up as the side effects of drug abuse. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 23:30)

Legends (102,281) by Mariahsbaby from usa [censored] She remains a legend whom I don't listen to, well aside from Whitney and Mary's covers of her songs. Lmfao. Some of the girls and boys are still so salty, how Mariah came into the scene and completely took over, the girl could really really sing and then we find out that she wrote, produced and made the vocal arrangements. Mariah is the greatest and the most talented artist/musician. We will "Carey" on. (Friday 3 March 2023; 14:18)

Did ya'll know? (102,280) by MusicfanJ from Germany No, I didn't. But Paula Abdul always seemed to me like an older J.Lo. (Friday 3 March 2023; 13:10) this is a reply to message 102,278

Did ya'll know? (102,278) by Victoria from USA And one time Paula Abdul beat out Mariah and Whitney. (Friday 3 March 2023; 04:02)

Chaka Khan and MCArchives (102,279) by Brad from USA Chaka: Classless MCArchives: I've been there for all 25. I remember being in my office 25 years ago as a very young professional and being delighted at this site. So thank you for everything over the years. Congrats. Here's to 25 more. (Friday 3 March 2023; 07:57)

Did ya'll know? (102,278) by Victoria from USA And one time Paula Abdul beat out Mariah and Whitney. (Friday 3 March 2023; 04:02) this is a reply to message 102,272

Did ya'll know? (102,272) by Randy from USA I was putzing around on the internet and discovered that Vanilla Ice won the 1991 Favorite New Artist American Music Award over Mariah Carey. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 16:13)

Chaka Khan (102,277) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter We don’t know her. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 23:59) this is a reply to message 102,274

Chaka Khan (102,274) by Randy from USA Said Mariah was ranked #5 on Rolling Stone's best singers of all time due to payola. Basically implying Mariah getting all of her props due to paying out money. I love Chaka Khan but she downtalked Adele, Mary J. Blige as well because they ranked ahead of her. Chaka Khan was #29. I would think that someone who has been in the business for so long would know better to take journalists' bait to create sound bites. Clips from interviews in which you talk bad about people who outsell you make you sound bitter. And when your wigs look like you skinned Snuffleupagus and you have had a drug/alcohol problem for over 50 years, you really shouldn't throw stones anywhere near your glass house. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 20:35)

Chaka Khan (102,276) by Mirage_Nunez from America I agree. How disappointing. And I am a huge Chaka Khan fan, she has always been in my top 3 (maybe even 2 behind MC), so I won't take that away from her, but I found her commentary very distasteful especially what she said about MJB. She don't deserve to be blasted like that publicly. I'm just gonna chose to chalk it up as the side effects of drug abuse. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 23:30) this is a reply to message 102,274

Chaka Khan (102,274) by Randy from USA Said Mariah was ranked #5 on Rolling Stone's best singers of all time due to payola. Basically implying Mariah getting all of her props due to paying out money. I love Chaka Khan but she downtalked Adele, Mary J. Blige as well because they ranked ahead of her. Chaka Khan was #29. I would think that someone who has been in the business for so long would know better to take journalists' bait to create sound bites. Clips from interviews in which you talk bad about people who outsell you make you sound bitter. And when your wigs look like you skinned Snuffleupagus and you have had a drug/alcohol problem for over 50 years, you really shouldn't throw stones anywhere near your glass house. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 20:35)

Chaka Khan (102,275) by Bobby A from United States Have y'all heard Chaka sing live lately? Her voice is not there anymore. She is mad because she has really never been seen as a great singer, but just a great performer with Rufus in the 70's. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 22:37) this is a reply to message 102,274

Chaka Khan (102,274) by Randy from USA Said Mariah was ranked #5 on Rolling Stone's best singers of all time due to payola. Basically implying Mariah getting all of her props due to paying out money. I love Chaka Khan but she downtalked Adele, Mary J. Blige as well because they ranked ahead of her. Chaka Khan was #29. I would think that someone who has been in the business for so long would know better to take journalists' bait to create sound bites. Clips from interviews in which you talk bad about people who outsell you make you sound bitter. And when your wigs look like you skinned Snuffleupagus and you have had a drug/alcohol problem for over 50 years, you really shouldn't throw stones anywhere near your glass house. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 20:35)

Chaka Khan (102,274) by Randy from USA Said Mariah was ranked #5 on Rolling Stone's best singers of all time due to payola. Basically implying Mariah getting all of her props due to paying out money. I love Chaka Khan but she downtalked Adele, Mary J. Blige as well because they ranked ahead of her. Chaka Khan was #29. I would think that someone who has been in the business for so long would know better to take journalists' bait to create sound bites. Clips from interviews in which you talk bad about people who outsell you make you sound bitter. And when your wigs look like you skinned Snuffleupagus and you have had a drug/alcohol problem for over 50 years, you really shouldn't throw stones anywhere near your glass house. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 20:35)

Did ya'll know? (102,273) by Norman from USA No, but it certainly didn't age well, did it? (Thursday 2 March 2023; 19:56) this is a reply to message 102,272

Did ya'll know? (102,272) by Randy from USA I was putzing around on the internet and discovered that Vanilla Ice won the 1991 Favorite New Artist American Music Award over Mariah Carey. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 16:13)

Did ya'll know? (102,272) by Randy from USA I was putzing around on the internet and discovered that Vanilla Ice won the 1991 Favorite New Artist American Music Award over Mariah Carey. (Thursday 2 March 2023; 16:13)

Parker Lewis (102,271) by MusicfanJ from Germany I watched this series again on DVD (it was great fun when I was a child). On episode two there was a poster from Mariah's debut on the wall of the store where Parker was the help. Pure 90ies. I'm smiling all over my face. It aired on 09.09.90 and Mariah was enchanting and rocking the music world. (Tuesday 28 February 2023; 15:12)

Hype for new album (102,270) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, I've always loved the mystery about her and her music. Golden days. It would be fantastic to experience this once again. (Tuesday 28 February 2023; 13:37) this is a reply to message 102,269

Hype for new album (102,269) by Edward from USA She should concentrate on putting good music out. At this point she won't be selling a lot, but new music would give her some relevancy. Marian [sic] used to have a veil of mystery, so I appreciate her being quiet and let the music do the talking. Every time she hypes something up, it ends up being a disappointment. (Tuesday 28 February 2023; 01:01)

Hype for new album (102,269) by Edward from USA She should concentrate on putting good music out. At this point she won't be selling a lot, but new music would give her some relevancy. Marian [sic] used to have a veil of mystery, so I appreciate her being quiet and let the music do the talking. Every time she hypes something up, it ends up being a disappointment. (Tuesday 28 February 2023; 01:01) this is a reply to message 102,268

Hype for new album (102,268) by Bobby A from United States It seems to me MC no longer posts videos of her in the studio to hype up the anticipation of a new album. If she is going to release anything new, whether new album or [compilation] again, the chances that it ever will sell anywhere near Memoirs is unlikely. I am feeling MC is apprehensive about any new release because of public scrutiny that is will not be a huge hit. (Monday 27 February 2023; 03:49)

Hype for new album (102,268) by Bobby A from United States It seems to me MC no longer posts videos of her in the studio to hype up the anticipation of a new album. If she is going to release anything new, whether new album or [compilation] again, the chances that it ever will sell anywhere near Memoirs is unlikely. I am feeling MC is apprehensive about any new release because of public scrutiny that is will not be a huge hit. (Monday 27 February 2023; 03:49)

Mariah label (102,267) by TJ from Norway Good question. I've been a fan for 33 years soon, and I don't know. I didn't think of that before you asked. (Sunday 26 February 2023; 00:36) this is a reply to message 102,264

Mariah label (102,264) by Anthony Carey from U.K Hi guys. I am trying to find out what record label is Mariah currently signed too? Is she still back with Sony or? Thanks. (Saturday 25 February 2023; 15:34)

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