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Languishing (102,999) by Bobby A from United States Great post, Andrew. I always never think of Languishing as an interlude, but as an intrinsic part of Angels Cry. (Wednesday 12 July 2023; 01:32) this is a reply to message 102,996

Languishing (102,996) by Andrew from the UK I always thought Mariah had somewhat diminished that power and poignancy of Languishing by calling it an interlude. I recall many others here many years ago feeling the same. Maybe Mariah means (in one fell swoop with just one word) in a song about damage to your person caused by the emotional abuse you received from a lover long ago is not forever. That is to say: the misery must be seen as an interlude in your life. That it is not what makes your story. That it is only what interrupted it. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 22:19)

Emotionally stiff (102,998) by Andrew from the UK Celine is an awesome vocalist. You know I love me some Celine, mate. But when she does her soft cooey emotional soft voice, I cringe. Perhaps it is the Britishness in me but it makes me very uncomfortable. And watching her do it on stage doubles the pain with her faux-emotional staring into the distance. Whitney never got this nonsense. But listen to her records and find emotion in them. She bellows everything. Her contributions to The Bodyguard sountrack are obnoxious bellowing. Where was the criticism of Whitney bellowing IWALY? She shouts the whole bloody thing. And Run To You. And I Have Nothing. There's no emotion in these songs at all. Mariah, no cringey over-emoting and no over-shouting. (Wednesday 12 July 2023; 00:28) this is a reply to message 102,985

Emotionally stiff (102,985) by Randy from USA One of the things I never understood is why journalists who review her albums call her ballads emotionally stiff. Since I've had a little time on my hands, I've been reading Rolling Stone, Slant, LA Times, New York Times and others' reviews of her albums that were written when the albums came out. We didn't have access to the internet back then haha. But they all seem to say the problem with Music Box, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter are the ballads because she's emotion-less. I don't get what they want. My All, And You Don't Remember, Never Forget You, Against All Odds and Lead The Way are every bit as emotional as Celine's All By Myself or Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You. What exactly did they want from MC? (Sunday 9 July 2023; 20:24)

Emotionally stiff (102,997) by Andrew from the UK If this were your last day on Earth, in whatever dreams may come after, who of the people in your life would you think: "Hmmm he never told me that he loved me nor how he felt about me, so he probably didn't love me at all"? Probably nobody, right? Nobody of any consequence to you, possibly, anyway. I would offer, humbly, that it is of little consequence that you didn't tell him that you loved him nor what he meant to you - but of great consequence simply that you *did* love him and that he *did* mean so much to you. Such powerful emotion is a rarity in life and a gift given to you by special people even if it is unrequited or unspoken. Death is as big as life is little. I hope you find release, William, and live a long and happy one. (Wednesday 12 July 2023; 00:15) this is a reply to message 102,995

Emotionally stiff (102,995) by Bill from the UK "I should've said I love you, why didn't I just tell you?" Heartbreaking words, I lost someone dear to me and wish I had told them how I felt. This hits me every time. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 09:12)

Languishing (102,996) by Andrew from the UK I always thought Mariah had somewhat diminished that power and poignancy of Languishing by calling it an interlude. I recall many others here many years ago feeling the same. Maybe Mariah means (in one fell swoop with just one word) in a song about damage to your person caused by the emotional abuse you received from a lover long ago is not forever. That is to say: the misery must be seen as an interlude in your life. That it is not what makes your story. That it is only what interrupted it. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 22:19)

Emotionally stiff (102,995) by Bill from the UK "I should've said I love you, why didn't I just tell you?" Heartbreaking words, I lost someone dear to me and wish I had told them how I felt. This hits me every time. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 09:12) this is a reply to message 102,990

Emotionally stiff (102,990) by Edward from USA I think "Never Forget You", "Anytime You Need a Friend", "Everything Fades Away" and "Without You" are very emotional. Mariah's voice on "Never Forget You" is makes me feel her pain, it's like something is piercing her soul, specially during the climax. And let's not talk about "Daydream", those journalists simply didn't like her, that's all. (Monday 10 July 2023; 14:45)

Emotionally stiff (102,994) by Stacey from USA Oh my gosh, how could I forget Can't Let Go? Shame on me, lol. Still irks me what Sony did to stop that single from hitting #1. At the end of the day, I don't need journalists to validate what we all know: Mariah has written a lot amazing songs. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 07:27) this is a reply to message 102,989

Emotionally stiff (102,989) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post Stacey. Yes, it can't get any more emotional than with "Til the end of time". A person who doesn't feel anything while listening, has no connection to the heart and soul. "Can't let go" is in the same "league". And "So blessed". I tested it today and had immadiately goosebumbs when her voice gets darker on the song. (Monday 10 July 2023; 12:10)

Emotionally stiff (102,993) by Bobby A from United States I take back these comments. I just listened to Mine Again with all of the emotion exuding from MC's impeccable vocals. How did I forget about this gem? Man, I hope MC's voice recovers to give us another Mine Again. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 04:20) this is a reply to message 102,986

Emotionally stiff (102,986) by Bobby A from United States Randy, they want something like Unbreak My Heart, Superwoman, and Love and War. You can hear the emotion and heartbreak in Toni's, Karen's and Tamar's voice. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 22:53)

Cut the crap (102,992) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway We all know that we are utterly dissapointed because our beloved Mariah hasn't released an album in years. But please, can you all watch, the last tone takes me to heaven. I'm not longer afraid to die, Mariah will be there to hold on to me. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 02:53)

MC should come clean (102,991) by Edward from USA Fast Internet, Social Media and Streaming contributed to the disruption of the revenue model music labels used to have. Music labels are not making that much money from artists anymore. Big contracts like in the 90's are a thing of the past. Mariah being dropped by Epic doesn't surprise me. She hasn't released an album in 5 years and the longer she waits, the less interested people are. Let's not be sentimental about it, she's a legend, but labels don't care about that, it's just business. If there's a time for Mariah to go independent, that time is now. As for how Madonna can hold up, well, in only a couple of venues, Madonna makes more money than Mariah would make in one short tour. Madonna has also being bundling up a copy of whatever album she's released at a specific moment with concert tickets. Unless you're a prolific songwriter like Mariah, artists have always made their money from concerts, since label tentacles couldn't reach that far into that domain, even though things are changing. (Monday 10 July 2023; 18:03) this is a reply to message 102,987

MC should come clean (102,987) by David from USA Mariah was dropped by Epic? When did that happen? (Monday 10 July 2023; 03:24)

Emotionally stiff (102,990) by Edward from USA I think "Never Forget You", "Anytime You Need a Friend", "Everything Fades Away" and "Without You" are very emotional. Mariah's voice on "Never Forget You" is makes me feel her pain, it's like something is piercing her soul, specially during the climax. And let's not talk about "Daydream", those journalists simply didn't like her, that's all. (Monday 10 July 2023; 14:45) this is a reply to message 102,988

Emotionally stiff (102,988) by Stacey from USA Till the End of Time is as emotionally filling as anything I've heard. I'd argue it's more emotional than All By Myself. That bridge to end chorus sends chills up my spine every time. Those silly journalists couldn't recognize emotion if it hit them in the face. (Monday 10 July 2023; 05:56)

Emotionally stiff (102,989) by MusicfanJ from Germany Great post Stacey. Yes, it can't get any more emotional than with "Til the end of time". A person who doesn't feel anything while listening, has no connection to the heart and soul. "Can't let go" is in the same "league". And "So blessed". I tested it today and had immadiately goosebumbs when her voice gets darker on the song. (Monday 10 July 2023; 12:10) this is a reply to message 102,988

Emotionally stiff (102,988) by Stacey from USA Till the End of Time is as emotionally filling as anything I've heard. I'd argue it's more emotional than All By Myself. That bridge to end chorus sends chills up my spine every time. Those silly journalists couldn't recognize emotion if it hit them in the face. (Monday 10 July 2023; 05:56)

Emotionally stiff (102,988) by Stacey from USA Till the End of Time is as emotionally filling as anything I've heard. I'd argue it's more emotional than All By Myself. That bridge to end chorus sends chills up my spine every time. Those silly journalists couldn't recognize emotion if it hit them in the face. (Monday 10 July 2023; 05:56) this is a reply to message 102,985

Emotionally stiff (102,985) by Randy from USA One of the things I never understood is why journalists who review her albums call her ballads emotionally stiff. Since I've had a little time on my hands, I've been reading Rolling Stone, Slant, LA Times, New York Times and others' reviews of her albums that were written when the albums came out. We didn't have access to the internet back then haha. But they all seem to say the problem with Music Box, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter are the ballads because she's emotion-less. I don't get what they want. My All, And You Don't Remember, Never Forget You, Against All Odds and Lead The Way are every bit as emotional as Celine's All By Myself or Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You. What exactly did they want from MC? (Sunday 9 July 2023; 20:24)

MC should come clean (102,987) by David from USA Mariah was dropped by Epic? When did that happen? (Monday 10 July 2023; 03:24) this is a reply to message 102,983

MC should come clean (102,983) by Bobby A from United States There is only one other major female R&B singer without a label right now. Her name is Jill Scott. She only released one album on Atlantic and they dropped her just like MC on Epic with Caution. I guess when you no longer have the radio hits and enormous album sales, female artists have a difficult time keeping their record deals. What is Madonna doing differently that keeps her career moving forward without the radio hits and enormous album sales? If MC would go independent, she would receive more respect as an older female artist. A partnership record deal with a high profile pop or R&B male artist would help kick start her career too. I definitely could see Trey Songz or Ryan Tedder do a full complete album with MC. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 17:57)

Emotionally stiff (102,986) by Bobby A from United States Randy, they want something like Unbreak My Heart, Superwoman, and Love and War. You can hear the emotion and heartbreak in Toni's, Karen's and Tamar's voice. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 22:53) this is a reply to message 102,985

Emotionally stiff (102,985) by Randy from USA One of the things I never understood is why journalists who review her albums call her ballads emotionally stiff. Since I've had a little time on my hands, I've been reading Rolling Stone, Slant, LA Times, New York Times and others' reviews of her albums that were written when the albums came out. We didn't have access to the internet back then haha. But they all seem to say the problem with Music Box, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter are the ballads because she's emotion-less. I don't get what they want. My All, And You Don't Remember, Never Forget You, Against All Odds and Lead The Way are every bit as emotional as Celine's All By Myself or Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You. What exactly did they want from MC? (Sunday 9 July 2023; 20:24)

Emotionally stiff (102,985) by Randy from USA One of the things I never understood is why journalists who review her albums call her ballads emotionally stiff. Since I've had a little time on my hands, I've been reading Rolling Stone, Slant, LA Times, New York Times and others' reviews of her albums that were written when the albums came out. We didn't have access to the internet back then haha. But they all seem to say the problem with Music Box, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter are the ballads because she's emotion-less. I don't get what they want. My All, And You Don't Remember, Never Forget You, Against All Odds and Lead The Way are every bit as emotional as Celine's All By Myself or Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You. What exactly did they want from MC? (Sunday 9 July 2023; 20:24)

MC's next era (102,984) by Bobby A from United States Yes. MC's voice would have fit perfectly on Rema's Calm Down remix instead of boring and non-singing Selena Gomez. Why doesn't she get more high profile remixes anymore? (Sunday 9 July 2023; 18:01) this is a reply to message 102,965

MC's next era (102,965) by Tevin from USA I would love to see Mariah dabble into Afro beats. (Wednesday 5 July 2023; 05:40)

MC should come clean (102,983) by Bobby A from United States There is only one other major female R&B singer without a label right now. Her name is Jill Scott. She only released one album on Atlantic and they dropped her just like MC on Epic with Caution. I guess when you no longer have the radio hits and enormous album sales, female artists have a difficult time keeping their record deals. What is Madonna doing differently that keeps her career moving forward without the radio hits and enormous album sales? If MC would go independent, she would receive more respect as an older female artist. A partnership record deal with a high profile pop or R&B male artist would help kick start her career too. I definitely could see Trey Songz or Ryan Tedder do a full complete album with MC. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 17:57) this is a reply to message 102,982

MC should come clean (102,982) by Edward from USA Mariah has been recording for quite some time now. She said she would be fishing for a streaming deal for "The Butterfly Lounge", but it seems to be the general interest in her doesn't warrant the money they would spend. The Clark Sisters confirmed Mariah had them sing their asses off on a recording session, Tanaka was following her every move during the Butterfly "Lounge Sessions" to document the creative process, she also said she had recorded a lot during the pandemic because she had supposedly gotten her voice back. She actually has a lot of material, but I guess she hasn't been able to secure a viable record deal. She could release "The Rarities 2" to alleviate the pain of her fans for not having new music from her for five years now, but oh well, it is what it is. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 14:08)

MC should come clean (102,982) by Edward from USA Mariah has been recording for quite some time now. She said she would be fishing for a streaming deal for "The Butterfly Lounge", but it seems to be the general interest in her doesn't warrant the money they would spend. The Clark Sisters confirmed Mariah had them sing their asses off on a recording session, Tanaka was following her every move during the Butterfly "Lounge Sessions" to document the creative process, she also said she had recorded a lot during the pandemic because she had supposedly gotten her voice back. She actually has a lot of material, but I guess she hasn't been able to secure a viable record deal. She could release "The Rarities 2" to alleviate the pain of her fans for not having new music from her for five years now, but oh well, it is what it is. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 14:08) this is a reply to message 102,981

MC should come clean (102,981) by MusicfanJ from Germany Enjoying life is the best she and everybody else can do. I wish we would get another album but her unique music catalogue makes me happy every time. Plus all the wonderful videos on YouTube and the concerts of my private collection. Happy Sunday lambs. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 11:01)

MC should come clean (102,981) by MusicfanJ from Germany Enjoying life is the best she and everybody else can do. I wish we would get another album but her unique music catalogue makes me happy every time. Plus all the wonderful videos on YouTube and the concerts of my private collection. Happy Sunday lambs. (Sunday 9 July 2023; 11:01) this is a reply to message 102,980

MC should come clean (102,980) by Lady B from USA Looks like she's spending time with her kids and enjoying life. (Saturday 8 July 2023; 15:05)

MC should come clean (102,980) by Lady B from USA Looks like she's spending time with her kids and enjoying life. (Saturday 8 July 2023; 15:05) this is a reply to message 102,970

MC should come clean (102,970) by Bobby A from United States How long does MC think she can keep the Lambs in the dark about the delay for the new era? I don't think I have ever felt this much in the dark about why we haven't gotten a new album. It has to be something on the business side of her career for the delay. Or maybe it is because vocal issues. MC should come clean soon. (Thursday 6 July 2023; 03:12)

Jesse Cook (102,979) by Bobby A from United States I am having the hardest time determining what did the tv/film producer Jesse Cook produce for MC. Her name shows on the web where he is given credit to working with an A list of celebrities. He produced the New Edition and the Bobby Brown TV movies. What did he produce for MC? (Saturday 8 July 2023; 02:56)

Good news (102,978) by MusicfanJ from Germany E=MC2 is a perfect summer album. A lot of non-fans love it. Yes, it's so radio-friendly. (Friday 7 July 2023; 11:07) this is a reply to message 102,976

Good news (102,976) by "MariahHater" from Hell When TMB went viral, I decided to take a spin for E=MC2 and surprisingly, this is really a good album. Her last commercially and GP friendly album as of writing. Wish we could hear her again having fun like this. Where [you] at Mariah? You cant keep the lambs waiting forever or suffocate us yearly with AIWFCIY. (Friday 7 July 2023; 08:26)

End times scenario (102,977) by MusicfanJ from Germany "I hate to say this but Generation X and Millennials may have witnessed the last days of music having consumption numbers attached." Absolutely. The music biz is gone (with the golden days like everything else right now). I'm so thankful to have witnessed Michael, Whitney, Tina, Janet, George Michael, Prince, Celine and many more. Plus all the RnB artists from the 90ies until 2005. Real artists, no Tik Tokkers, influencers and all the other self-promoters. I like that the Rolling Stones and Tom Jones are still "rocking" and touring. Tom Jones has still a wonderful voice. The same with Pauli Carmen from "Champagne". I love when "How about us" gets played on my radio station. Good music will always be good music. The 60ies, 70ies, 80ies, 90ies were the best musicwise. The last 5 years are the worst, with few exceptions. Luckily we can listen to real music everyday. I don't need the trends. (Friday 7 July 2023; 11:02) this is a reply to message 102,974

End times scenario (102,974) by Randy from USA I just had a thought. Rare. I realized that MC's 19 number 1s record is nowhere near in jeopardy. Today's audience doesn't have the attention span to pay attention that long to an artist. I remember a few years when Wendy predicted Rihanna would overtake MC. Rihanna doesn't even have the attention span. She focused on Fenty and stopped making music and she's stepped down from Fenty, at least running it, to be a mom. And how long is Billboard gonna matter if no one is buying music? And then the complex digital units, streaming platforms, radio and YouTube videos have to be calculated now. When will they start counting TikTok use? Use in streaming TV, use in figure skating programs? Don't laugh because figure skating is now only streamed live because musicians sued per licensing. You can watch it but you can't replay it. Then how likely are companies to merge, be bought, or go out of business? Will Spotify be bought by Nabisco and change its name to Cookie Music? Will TikTok be banned by congress? Mariah's Heat would be censored from Facebook these days. How many times would Billboard then have to change its formula? All jokes aside, I'm surprised there are still charts. I hate to say this but Generation X and Millennials may have witnessed the last days of music having consumption numbers attached. (Thursday 6 July 2023; 20:20)

Good news (102,976) by "MariahHater" from Hell When TMB went viral, I decided to take a spin for E=MC2 and surprisingly, this is really a good album. Her last commercially and GP friendly album as of writing. Wish we could hear her again having fun like this. Where [you] at Mariah? You cant keep the lambs waiting forever or suffocate us yearly with AIWFCIY. (Friday 7 July 2023; 08:26) this is a reply to message 102,971

Good news (102,971) by Terna from Nigeria This is exactly why she's gained the new title "Social Media Queen". Haha, she's about the only artist from her time who's songs keep resurging and trending unexpectedly as we've witnessed so many times. I would say "All I want for Christmas is You" has a big part in this trend for her since it tops the chart every year. And this is just one facet to the title, another is her "Isms", "sayings" and "drags" so to speak. Haha. That infamous "I don't know her" line did not help. Mariah is that It girl what more can be said? She stays winning. (Thursday 6 July 2023; 09:12)

When Mariah was wearing onesies (102,975) by "MariahHater" from Hell When she kicked off her residency and the SSFT tour or any other tours in mid 10's, people are bashing her for wearing those onesies but now, when Beyonce or Taylor wears them, people love them. Smh. (Friday 7 July 2023; 06:16)

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