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MC's catalogue (100,374) by Bobby A from United States Would she ever sell her catalogue like Justin Timberlake and others have done? JT sold his catalogue for 100 million. MC can receive at least 300 million for 1990-1999 years alone. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 21:20)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,368) (100,373) by Terna from Nigeria Well written post. I'm so glad Mariah shared that very private message from Leontyne Price with us her fans and the rest of the world. That was one of the highlights in the book for me. Another was the moment with Maureen, who complimented her about her singing voice. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 21:04)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,370) (100,372) by Matthew from USA I would argue that artists don't make art for the people. When a painter sits before a blank canvas, he doesn't think, what do the people want? That would be pointless because the people are not one hive mind and any rational person knows that it's impossible to make them all happy. You make art because you are passionate about it. You share a bit of what's inside you. Hopefully the general public likes it. That can be one form of validation, though I think it's not a healthy type of validation to depend on. Much more meaningful, would be the old masters telling you personally that they think your work surpasses theirs. There is also the quote you provided. It's from her early career, when she had already sold millions. At this point, she was prim, proper, apple cheeked, and what you seem to think of as classy and respectable. She was the people's pop princess. And yet she felt she lacked something Mary J Blige had. What could that be? She felt she wasn't as respected. Why? At this point in their respective careers, Mariah had a lot more claim to the love of the people across the globe than did Mary. It seems clear then, that when she talks about respect here, she is not talking about the general public. That's not how she herself defines respect. Food for thought. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 21:00)

Creative artist over great vocalist (100,371) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I want to start by saying that my words are in no way meant to be an excuse for Mariah or her career. I'm just offering my $.02 on this discussion around how she and her career is viewed by the public and peers. To sum this post up, I'm wondering if maybe Mariah's creativity has come to outshine her vocal instrument. And I don't think it's a bad thing. There was mention of diva antics being the cause for people to stop listening or to be embarrassed as a fan. I'm old enough to remember Aretha having many a diva antic whether onstage, in interviews, or otherwise. The same can be said for Patti and also Whitney. Whitney was known to be rude in interviews. I love all of these singers, I'm just mentioning this because I don't think "diva behavior" has much to do with her popularity. I will say that it's obvious that it became a defense mechanism after her paranoia in the Glitter era, feeling that she was backstabbed and "out there on her own" and understandably so. Again, not an excuse, just an observation of when it took a different turn. I believe it has more to do with her art. Mariah is in there from beginning to end of the project, she is the artist of many hats. She produces, writes, composes, sings lead and background, she really does it all minus playing instruments. She gained more control to create this way after Tommy, after leaving Sony. This is when her popularity started waning. Why? I think it's because her music was more of a creative and artistic expression and less of a mainstream, accessible, easy to swallow pill. I think of Prince in this same way. He was always in creative control and it increased further into his career. He was most popular in the 80s when he adhered to a sound he created that was acceptable for the time and within the bounds of WB, similar to how 90s Mariah was very much her signature sound, but within the structure of Sony. Given creative control, these 2 both became full on artists. I hope I'm painting this picture in a way that you all can understand. Whitney, Aretha, Celine, Barbra, Patti are all great singers and vocalists. They sing music that is mainstream in their respective genres. It's easy to listen to, you don't have to think too much about the lyrics, and they sound great in their music. If Mariah had an entire catalogue of Hero's she would fit right in with this group. The lyrics to Hero are not deep in comparison to her more personal works. The structure of the song is somewhat standard and easy to grasp. Someone else writes and arranges for these women the majority of the time. Mariah is not like this. Every single moment in her songs has been crafted or placed by her somehow. She writes from very deep places that not everyone can relate to or that not everyone is ready to hear. Again, this is similar to Prince in the 90s and beyond. His later music is an acquired taste. It's excellent and some of his best work in my opinion, but most people won't hear it or get it. I think Mariah's music is like this. Putting on one of her albums is honestly like watching a movie. There is so much ambience, emotional landscape, color, feels, sounds, it's an artistic display. The average person does not have the bandwidth or desire to get into all that comes with her album experiences. When some talk about Caution not sounding like a Mariah album, I think it's because she took a dip into the commercial again and it was maybe half-baked. I don't think she had as much control and time as usual for that album, although I do love it. I could go on but this post is way too long already. I'll wait to see if someone indulges the convo and I'll continue with a response. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 19:28)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,368) (100,370) by Edward from USA Rooney: One night, we went to dinner at Sylvia's in Harlem - me, Tommy, and Mariah. On our way back, we were riding in the limo and every club, every car was bumping "Fantasy". Mariah put her sunglasses on, and tears came down her cheeks, because she couldn't believe her record was getting played all through the hood. That was the beginning of her not turning back to pop. She once told me though she was grateful for her success, she would trade in all of her record sales to get the respect that Mary J. Blige got. She said, "Mary doesn't have to sell 28 million records to be respected - people respect Mary, and I just want to be respected like her." You don't write, sing, act or paint for your peers, you do that for the people. Even though your peers respect is always welcomed, the greatest gratification comes from the respect you get from those whom you create your art for, the people. I personally don't have anything against Mariah, she has made her choices and have gained a lot and also suffered the consequences. It's life, we all have gone through that. Let's just not make excuses as to why she's not as respected globally as Celine, Whitney or Barbra. Her choices led to that, she's been in control of her image since Butterfly. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 18:12)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,362) (100,369) by MusicfanJ from Germany "While she was still sexy and classy, but before her over the top Diva kicked in." I totally agree with it. Everyone loved her, not just the fans. During "Butterfly" she was still classy while sexy. When "Rainbow" came out she was always funny and sweet during interviews and her touring around the world. I think the public opinion really changed after "Glitter" and while the beginning of the 00 years. Mariah was always a diva, but in the 90ies it was somehow different. She was so mysterious (in a positive way) so powerful and her voice was out of this world. She seemed so carefree and happy. The people love the natural Mariah. We have enough entertainers in the world (good and bad) but only one Mariah. If she focuses on her talent she could write another hit. But it can't be forced. Not with streams or a new rapper. It must happen naturally. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 12:18)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,362) (100,368) by Matthew from USA Edward, since you claim to speak for all the people over 30, I suppose we shall defer to your judgement that they don't respect Mariah. It seems to me, however, that most people who spend their lives perfecting a craft, get the most gratification from being recognized by their peers. For instance, a novelist might not particularly care that a carpenter in Egypt doesn't appreciate or respect their work, yet be extremely honored by the praise of other novelists she admires. In her book, Mariah points out how much it meant to her that the great Leontyne Price paid her such a compliment. But if you say that Mariah truly wants the respect of the people, whoever and wherever they are, from the baker to the cardiologist, then I shall defer to your judgement, though that seems a recipe for never being happy. As for class, I suppose it is subjective. Recording artists, who are always conscious of their brand and image, may give us some clue though. Surely younger artists such as J-Hud, Ariana and Shawn, as well as older artists, such as Brandy, Mary J, and Patti Labelle, don't want to associate with the classless. And imagine recruiting a classless artist with no respect in the industry to teach your Master Class. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 10:57)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,366) (100,367) by TJ from Norway I was listening to Cher in my car this morning and was thinking about Mariah. The only reason Cher got to number one that year, was that she changed everything. A new style, a new sound and a big hit. If Mariah keeps producing music with the same formula that she has used for the last 15 years, we will not see another number one. I'm very happy for the 19 she got. They made the 90s very happy for me. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 10:36)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,361) (100,366) by jaker20 from US Mariah alone having another hit song is going to be extremely difficult, to be very honest. I think what she needs is to collaborate, collaborate, collaborate. Whitney had a big global posthumous hit a couple of years ago with Higher Love, and now Mariah as well with Big Energy remix. See the trend there? If the release of BER been handled in a better way, we would be having a different conversation right now. Technically, she does have a recent hit with BER which is charting outside of the US which is more than I can say about most of her contemporaries. But it seems anything less than no.1 is a disappointment for lambs. I think maybe a lot of us want Mariah to pull a Cher. So we are hoping her to achieve something that's only been achieved once ever, that is too much to ask and unrealistic. If she keeps collaborating she could still churn out hits in the coming years. Her music is still within the genre that is popular right now. The success of BER shows she's in a good spot if she chose to pursue it. Hits mean having another new generation to listen to her music. Some lambs seem to think that catering to young people is a bad thing, which is snobbish. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 05:45)

Re: No email updates (100,359) (100,365) by Lainsky from Philippines Thank you, Webmaster! I really appreciate it. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 04:37)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,361) (100,364) by Bobby A from United States I was just thinking the same thing. It would have been really cool if MC could have written and sang the theme song to the new Top Gun movie. She was not even considered because she no longer sings pop music. (Tuesday 31 May 2022; 02:46)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,350) (100,363) by Edward from USA That's what you call to pull a Nikki. When you can't pull anything else out of your ass, you can always pull the race card. (Monday 30 May 2022; 21:10)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,356) (100,362) by Edward from USA "It's silly to claim Mariah Carey isn't respected. But we should probably clarify who we're looking for respect from. 15 year olds?" Exactly, 15 year olds don't know or care about Mariah's music, most people in their their 30's and older are the ones who roll their eyes when her name is mentioned. The peer respect is bullshit, artist want respect from the people, that's the real respect. Back before she could take two steps on her own like the rest of us, while she was still sexy and classy, but before her over the top Diva kicked in, it was cool to say you were her fan, now I keep it to myself. "As for her diva attitude, if using a treadmill in silk negligee and six inch Gucci stilettos while hitting whistles and sipping a glass of crystal pinky out isn't classy, then I don't know what is dahling." Exactly the opposite of classy and sane, dahling. (Monday 30 May 2022; 21:07)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,360) (100,361) by jaker20 from US I feel like her next hit will be from a soundtrack, like "Love Me Like You Do" type of song, one that's not an r&b, but something that's more current. Again, similar to how Cher pulled it off, because "Believe" was completely different from the rest of her discography, but was of its time. (Monday 30 May 2022; 20:37)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,357) (100,360) by Carlos from Brazil Sorry about that. What's happening is Netherlands? That's next level poor taste. (Monday 30 May 2022; 13:10)

No email updates (100,359) by Lainsky from Philippines Just want to ask if the admin has cancelled the email subscriptions to receive the latest news from this site or is it just me? I no longer receive an email from MCA, something I always look forward upon logging in to my email account. Thanks. [Webmaster: I see that you are no longer on my mailinglist, so I've added you again. This evening you should receive the newsletter.] (Monday 30 May 2022; 12:15)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,326) (100,358) by Lainsky from Philippines I could not agree more. Another #1 will make a lot of positive difference on Mariah's status as an artist. If Cher was able to pull it off, I still believe (singing) that she can do it too or even better. Based on her history, whenever she makes a "comeback" she scores at least a couple of #1's. All she need to do is to record and release that major pop R&B album with massive pop R&B hits that is relatable, not only to her older (sorry but true, including myself) fans, but more importantly, to the untapped younger music enthusiast. And also right timing of release is crucial. Hopefully, it happens this year because she's 52 or 53 already! (Monday 30 May 2022; 12:13)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,356) (100,357) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Here in the Netherlands, listeners can each year vote for their favorite songs. Between Christmas and New Year, the top 2000 songs get played on the radio. So this list is a great tool to see who is popular in the Netherlands. Since we are comparing artists of Mariah's caliber, I counted the number of songs artists like Madonna, Celine, Barbra etc have on this list. Barbra Streisand has 6 songs on the list, the highest charted song is "Woman in love" at no 1126. Aretha Franklin has 5 songs on the list, the highest charted song is "Respect" at no 446. Whitney Houston has 5 songs on the list, the highest charted song is "I will always love you" at no 714. Madonna has 5 songs on the list, the highest charted song is "Like a prayer" at no 916. Taylor Swift has 4 songs on the list, the highest charted song is "All too well" at no 1282. Celine Dion had 3 songs on the list, the highest charted song is "It's all coming back to me now" at no 1337. Mariah has only 1 song on the list, "All I want for Christmas is you" is at no 879. Janet Jackson has not a single song on the list. So Mariah is only loved for one song here in the Netherlands and it is that awful Christmas song. Male singers are way more popular than female singers. Bruce Springsteen (23 songs), Michael Jackson (20 songs), George Michael (17 songs), Elvis Presley (15 songs) and Prince (12 songs) all have more songs on the list than Barbra Streisand. (Monday 30 May 2022; 00:17)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,353) (100,356) by Matthew from USA It's silly to claim Mariah Carey isn't respected. But we should probably clarify who we're looking for respect from. 15 year olds? You can't respect what you don't know. The Grammys? At this point, we should reverse the question and ask who respects the Grammys? Ultimately, the only group Mariah or any artist would want respect and validation from is her peers. Fellow artists and musicians in her genre who know what it takes to be in this industry. On that score, I think it's safe to say she's well respected and admired. As for the whole classy argument, we need to be careful with that word. Especially when we start saying things like she became less classy when her music changed. She may have lost some fans going from adult contemporary to hip-hop and R&B, but she gained plenty of new ones with the change as well. And all the young kids are into rap nowadays, so who's classy? As for her diva attitude, if using a treadmill in silk neglige and six inch Gucci stilettos while hitting whistles and sipping a glass of crystal pinky out isn't classy, then I don't know what is dahling. (Sunday 29 May 2022; 23:48)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,354) (100,355) by Bobby A from United States I believe there is another pop song left in MC. (Sunday 29 May 2022; 21:48)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,352) (100,354) by Libra Lamb from USA I’m sorry you misunderstood my post. They’re not the same thing. (Sunday 29 May 2022; 13:39)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,326) (100,353) by Terna from Nigeria "How does Taylor Swift have twice as many Grammys as MC?" The same way Beyonce is the most awarded female in the music industry - industry politics, so don't think too much about that. Certain artists tend not (all caps) to play by the rules that "the powers that be" enforce in the music industry, Mariah is high on that list. The late Prince also known as "The artist" is also on that list. Everything they accomplished was because they are musical geniuses first of all (the genuine gift of being able to create music) but also worked hard for, almost like it was an uphill battle. I have utmost respect for Mariah and Prince and the likes who played on their own terms, ended up owing their catalogues (this is very important as an artist) and yet remained relevant. Mariah is a very calculated and sharp business mind, who has thrived in a cutthroat industry and carved out her own lane. She is where a lot of artists can only wish they were. The respect is already here and so will that 20th number one, trust and believe. (Sunday 29 May 2022; 13:07)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,347) (100,352) by Steven Berning from USA Well, that post had as much focus as a squirrel. Her diva personality is her sense of humor, duh. (Sunday 29 May 2022; 09:35)

Hello (100,351) by SM from Citizen of the World Hello. I just wanted to take a second and introduce myself, I have posted here numerous times randomly and realized I never properly introduced myself to the lambs. I'm Daniel, live in Boston and I have been a lamb since 1990, when I was 5. My grandmother was the first person who played Mariah's debut cassette tape for me and since that day I followed Mariah and she has always been a part of my life. I'm gonna keep this short and sweet but Mariah has saved my life not once but one too many to count with her music, voice and who she is as a person. She is always there for me. I have looked up to her my whole life, she is my inspiration and I am so grateful for such a beautiful and talented women to shine for me. Everyday that goes on I thank God for her and her music because if it wasn't for Mariah, I really don't know where I would be. But anyways if any lambs ever want to chat about Mariah I am so down to making new friends my email is dvogz10@icloud.com and my twitter is @DanielkennethV. (Sunday 29 May 2022; 03:03)

Re: Why I want another #1 (100,339) (100,350) by Stacey from USA Play the race card. What an eye roll. I need a drink. (Sunday 29 May 2022; 01:58)

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