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AIWFCIY | greatest song of all time (102,033) by "MariahHater" from Hell This song will continue to stand the test of time. There are a lot of holiday songs but not to the point of an eternal revival every occasion. This should really be the greatest song of all time because not all songs can stay like this, know what I mean? I hope that the charts system won't eradicate the holiday songs on the main charts as: 1. They are "songs" too. Whatever category holiday song or pop song or whatever song, it doesn't matter as it is still a song. 2. Everyone can listen to them even if it is not the holidays yet. So to all the chart shenanigans lurking on this board, not to be bias of Mariah but Brenda, Burt, Michael B, and all the others who created Christmas classics that came before and after Mariah are legends for having songs revisited on a consistent manner yearly. Give them their rightful accolades. Writing this long post as I fear that when the holiday songs dominate the all time charts, they will revamp and strip them off their rights. (Thursday 5 January 2023; 06:07)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,032) by MusicfanJ from Germany I forgot Barbra Streisand. She's great too. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 21:32) this is a reply to message 102,029

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,029) by MusicfanJ from Germany Good list, mine would be: Female singers: 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Mariah Carey 3. Whitney Houston 4. Ella Fitzgerald 5. Etta James 6. Donna Summer 7. Billie Holiday 8. Celine Dion 9. Brenda Lee 10. Janis Joplin (I know her music may not be for everyone's ears, but she really could sing the blues) 10 Male singers: 1. Stevie Wonder 2. Otis Redding 3. Marvin Gaye 4. Michael Jackson 5. Prince 6. Bill Withers 7. Sam Cooke 8. Teddy Pendergrass 9. George Michael 10. Lionel Richie (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 17:04)

Twitter (102,031) by SM from Citizen of the World Does anyone know where the Lady Gaga retweet came from in Mariah's latest tweet? "I can't stop crying. We did it kids." It's also from 2011 I believe. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 21:18)

Singer v. voice (102,030) by Brad from USA I sense that Rolling Stone is drawing a distinct line between one's voice and the "range" of things that one's voice can do and how the singer has employed that "range" of things throughout their career. For example, James Taylor is not on said "200" list. His voice sounds nearly as pure today as it did 50 plus years ago. That said, there is a limit to the "range" of things his voice can do and how he employs his voice. Therefore, for this list, he is not on it. Please note that the use of the term "range" does not necessarily only mean hitting a high note - rather it is about inflection, effect, skill, subtly and the particular emotion conveyed. For Mariah, "range" in this sense is vast. One can look at a song like "Emotions" and compare it to "Subtle Invitation" and "We Belong Together" and "8th Grade" and "H.A.T.E.U." There is a "range" there of how the singer is using their voice in its effect and as an instrument to perform the job of the song itself. While I would generally agree that Celine Dion does not have such a "range" to the same degree as someone like Mariah, I do think she employs her "range" in a highly effective manner that likely should have placed her on said "200" list. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 18:04)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,029) by MusicfanJ from Germany Good list, mine would be: Female singers: 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Mariah Carey 3. Whitney Houston 4. Ella Fitzgerald 5. Etta James 6. Donna Summer 7. Billie Holiday 8. Celine Dion 9. Brenda Lee 10. Janis Joplin (I know her music may not be for everyone's ears, but she really could sing the blues) 10 Male singers: 1. Stevie Wonder 2. Otis Redding 3. Marvin Gaye 4. Michael Jackson 5. Prince 6. Bill Withers 7. Sam Cooke 8. Teddy Pendergrass 9. George Michael 10. Lionel Richie (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 17:04) this is a reply to message 102,025

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,025) by Anonymous from United States These are the singers that come to mind for me. 10 Female singers: 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Linda Ronstadt 3. Donna Summer 4. Whitney Houston 5. Mariah Carey 6. Celine Dion 7. Wynonna Judd 8. Etta James 9. Bonnie Raitt 10. Carrie Underwood 10 Male singers: 1. Marvin Gaye 2. Seal 3. Bruce Springsteen 4. Luther Vandross 5. Prince 6. Bill Withers 7. Stevie Wonder 8. Otis Redding 9. Steve Winwood 10. Teddy Pendergrass (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:34)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,028) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, Céline should be at number 8. I even read on the german Yahoo site today that the people don't understand the list (that Celine Dion is missing). It's a big mistake. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 16:46) this is a reply to message 102,026

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,026) by Terna from Nigeria Celine Dion should actually replace that number 8 Beyonce occupies, It's kinda [laughable] how they always try to have Beyonce sit among the greats and she just does not belong. Notable singers were missing, like was Dionne Warwick even there on the list? (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:43)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,027) by jaker20 from US My top 10 female singers: 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Mariah Carey 3. Barbra Streisand 4. Ella Fitzgerald 5. Amy Winehouse 6. Patti LaBelle 7. Whitney Houston 8. Sheena Easton 9. Chaka Khan 10. Dionne Warwick Male: 1. Ray Charles 2. Luther Vandross 3. Steve Perry 4. Bruce Springsteen 5. Al Green 6. Freddie Mercury 7. Frank Sinatra 8. Stevie Wonder 9. Marvin Gaye 10. Jon Bon Jovi (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 16:36) this is a reply to message 102,025

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,025) by Anonymous from United States These are the singers that come to mind for me. 10 Female singers: 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Linda Ronstadt 3. Donna Summer 4. Whitney Houston 5. Mariah Carey 6. Celine Dion 7. Wynonna Judd 8. Etta James 9. Bonnie Raitt 10. Carrie Underwood 10 Male singers: 1. Marvin Gaye 2. Seal 3. Bruce Springsteen 4. Luther Vandross 5. Prince 6. Bill Withers 7. Stevie Wonder 8. Otis Redding 9. Steve Winwood 10. Teddy Pendergrass (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:34)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,026) by Terna from Nigeria Celine Dion should actually replace that number 8 Beyonce occupies, It's kinda [laughable] how they always try to have Beyonce sit among the greats and she just does not belong. Notable singers were missing, like was Dionne Warwick even there on the list? (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:43) this is a reply to message 102,010

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,010) by Edward from USA You know it's a travesty when they included Rihanna and leave Celine out. Linda Ronstadt and Barbra Streisand should be in the top 20. Going by their own rules, Celine should be in the top 10. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 13:54)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,025) by Anonymous from United States These are the singers that come to mind for me. 10 Female singers: 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Linda Ronstadt 3. Donna Summer 4. Whitney Houston 5. Mariah Carey 6. Celine Dion 7. Wynonna Judd 8. Etta James 9. Bonnie Raitt 10. Carrie Underwood 10 Male singers: 1. Marvin Gaye 2. Seal 3. Bruce Springsteen 4. Luther Vandross 5. Prince 6. Bill Withers 7. Stevie Wonder 8. Otis Redding 9. Steve Winwood 10. Teddy Pendergrass (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:34) this is a reply to message 102,007

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,007) by Norman from USA After reading about this list and everyone being up in arms about several choices, I decided to Google other lists to see how they differ. I found that they all seem to be off on their picks. How can you make a list of the greatest singers/vocalists, and then take their popularity into account in their ranking order? I mean, how in the world does that pertain to vocal ability? Not to knock singers/performers with limited vocal range or ability (I can think of several in that department that punch above their weight when delivering an emotional and touching song), but it seems only logical to rank them on their ability, right? Any time I see a list with Paul McCartney, Elvis, or John Lennon in the top 5/10, I know I can't take them seriously. I know a lot of it is subjective because music as a whole is that way, but at have the right players on the board when you're picking. Who would you guys pick to be in the top 20 (I think it gives a lot more wiggle room for to include people who you can move around if necessary)? Here are my players (in no particular order): Mariah (obviously) Whitney Celine Etta James Aretha Ella Freddie Mercury Donny Hathaway Luther Linda Ronstadt Marvin Gaye Stevie Wonder Bono Rocio Durcal Prince Barb[a]ra Streisand George Michael Al Green Axl Rose Tina Turner Picking these was pretty difficult because it's still biased toward certain genres (and heavily American), but there's no denying they can sing. There are still several other picks I could swap for one another (I wanted to put Ray Charles, James Brown, Robert Plant, Patti Labelle, Billy Ocean, Peabo Bryson, Donna Summer, Jeffrey Osborne, Annie Lennox, Kenny Rogers, and countless others), but at least they're all talented singers/vocalists. What say you? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 03:32)

RS (102,024) by Anonymous from United States Donna Summer is not comparable to Beyonce and Rihanna? Beyonce lifted the hook for "Naughty Girl" from "Love to Love You Baby". She and Rihanna would not have careers without the existence of Donna Summer, and they are both mediocre singers in comparison. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:25) this is a reply to message 102,015

RS (102,015) by Mariahsbaby from usa Rolling Stone on the list: "In all cases, what mattered most to us was originality, influence, the depth of an artist's catalog, and the breadth of their musical legacy. A voice can be gorgeous like Mariah Carey's, rugged like Toots Hibbert's, understated like Willie Nelson's, slippery and sumptuous like D'Angelo's, or bracing like Bob Dylan's." And they also added: " Before you start scrolling (and commenting), keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices list. Talent is impressive; genius is transcendent." Celine Dion is the only one who we should really be upset about, Donna is not even comparable to Beyonce and Rihanna has one of the most iconic and well known voices, her songs are played around the globe. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 19:28)

The queen stays on top (102,023) by Bobby A from United States MC is crushing all types of records lately. Wouldn't it be nice if she released a new album this year that goes back to those soulful pop ballads of 90s? (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 05:16) this is a reply to message 102,020

The queen stays on top (102,020) by enwar00 from usa It really is amazing. And it's exciting knowing that this Holiday season she just moved 4 weeks closer to eventually reclaiming her record of having the song with the most weeks atop the Hot 100, this time with a solo song. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 00:32)

The queen stays on top (102,022) by Stacey from USA Simply amazing. Even if in general you aren't a MC fan, you have to admit this is just a great song. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 02:57) this is a reply to message 102,014

The queen stays on top (102,014) by Edward from USA Mariah Carey’s "All I Want for Christmas Is You" adds 12th week atop Hot 100. Isn't that amazing? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 17:36)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,021) by Stacey from USA Seriously. Have you heard Rihanna try and sing Hero? It's laughable. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 02:56) this is a reply to message 102,010

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,010) by Edward from USA You know it's a travesty when they included Rihanna and leave Celine out. Linda Ronstadt and Barbra Streisand should be in the top 20. Going by their own rules, Celine should be in the top 10. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 13:54)

The queen stays on top (102,020) by enwar00 from usa It really is amazing. And it's exciting knowing that this Holiday season she just moved 4 weeks closer to eventually reclaiming her record of having the song with the most weeks atop the Hot 100, this time with a solo song. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 00:32) this is a reply to message 102,014

The queen stays on top (102,014) by Edward from USA Mariah Carey’s "All I Want for Christmas Is You" adds 12th week atop Hot 100. Isn't that amazing? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 17:36)

Number 1 - cause for Celebration (102,019) by DK from USA What a great run for Mariah - Number 1 on Billboard 100, continuing to break records; Songwriters Hall of Fame induction; Number 1 living artist on Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers of All Time list. Congratulations MC. P.S. I hear new music is coming in 2023 - certainly the public stage had been primed for what's to come. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 23:40)

She reigns supreme another week at #1 BB100 (102,018) by Tameka walker from United states Congratulations to the one and only Mariah Carey the real queen of everything. You are such a huge fan of yours. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 23:19) this is a reply to message 102,013

She reigns supreme another week at #1 BB100 (102,013) by Mò from South Africa Congratulations queen MC. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 17:04)

Mariah's most famous, not famous song? (102,017) by enwar00 from usa Matty, I would say The Roof. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 20:32) this is a reply to message 102,009

Mariah's most famous, not famous song? (102,009) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I've been thinking; Even my friends who don't vibe with Mariah (we all have those friends hahaha) know "Triumphant". In your opinion: What's Mariah's most popular un-famous song? I think more people know "Almost Home" then the Lambs realize. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 04:44)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,016) by The Real Deal from USA Where's Madonna? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 19:45) this is a reply to message 102,007

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,007) by Norman from USA After reading about this list and everyone being up in arms about several choices, I decided to Google other lists to see how they differ. I found that they all seem to be off on their picks. How can you make a list of the greatest singers/vocalists, and then take their popularity into account in their ranking order? I mean, how in the world does that pertain to vocal ability? Not to knock singers/performers with limited vocal range or ability (I can think of several in that department that punch above their weight when delivering an emotional and touching song), but it seems only logical to rank them on their ability, right? Any time I see a list with Paul McCartney, Elvis, or John Lennon in the top 5/10, I know I can't take them seriously. I know a lot of it is subjective because music as a whole is that way, but at have the right players on the board when you're picking. Who would you guys pick to be in the top 20 (I think it gives a lot more wiggle room for to include people who you can move around if necessary)? Here are my players (in no particular order): Mariah (obviously) Whitney Celine Etta James Aretha Ella Freddie Mercury Donny Hathaway Luther Linda Ronstadt Marvin Gaye Stevie Wonder Bono Rocio Durcal Prince Barb[a]ra Streisand George Michael Al Green Axl Rose Tina Turner Picking these was pretty difficult because it's still biased toward certain genres (and heavily American), but there's no denying they can sing. There are still several other picks I could swap for one another (I wanted to put Ray Charles, James Brown, Robert Plant, Patti Labelle, Billy Ocean, Peabo Bryson, Donna Summer, Jeffrey Osborne, Annie Lennox, Kenny Rogers, and countless others), but at least they're all talented singers/vocalists. What say you? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 03:32)

RS (102,015) by Mariahsbaby from usa Rolling Stone on the list: "In all cases, what mattered most to us was originality, influence, the depth of an artist's catalog, and the breadth of their musical legacy. A voice can be gorgeous like Mariah Carey's, rugged like Toots Hibbert's, understated like Willie Nelson's, slippery and sumptuous like D'Angelo's, or bracing like Bob Dylan's." And they also added: " Before you start scrolling (and commenting), keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices list. Talent is impressive; genius is transcendent." Celine Dion is the only one who we should really be upset about, Donna is not even comparable to Beyonce and Rihanna has one of the most iconic and well known voices, her songs are played around the globe. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 19:28)

The queen stays on top (102,014) by Edward from USA Mariah Carey’s "All I Want for Christmas Is You" adds 12th week atop Hot 100. Isn't that amazing? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 17:36)

She reigns supreme another week at #1 BB100 (102,013) by Mò from South Africa Congratulations queen MC. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 17:04)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,012) by Anonymous from United States 100 percent agree. Celine Dion has been singing her face off for decades, and Rolling Stone snubbing someone with such technical prowess is a travesty. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 16:22) this is a reply to message 102,008

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,008) by Stacey from USA We can argue about Mariah's place on the list, etc. But Celine missing? That's a huge mistake from Rolling Stone. Shame on them. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 04:36)

Mariah's most famous, not famous song? (102,011) by Lady B from USA Someone's Ugly Daughter. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 15:03) this is a reply to message 102,009

Mariah's most famous, not famous song? (102,009) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I've been thinking; Even my friends who don't vibe with Mariah (we all have those friends hahaha) know "Triumphant". In your opinion: What's Mariah's most popular un-famous song? I think more people know "Almost Home" then the Lambs realize. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 04:44)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,010) by Edward from USA You know it's a travesty when they included Rihanna and leave Celine out. Linda Ronstadt and Barbra Streisand should be in the top 20. Going by their own rules, Celine should be in the top 10. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 13:54) this is a reply to message 102,008

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,008) by Stacey from USA We can argue about Mariah's place on the list, etc. But Celine missing? That's a huge mistake from Rolling Stone. Shame on them. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 04:36)

Mariah's most famous, not famous song? (102,009) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I've been thinking; Even my friends who don't vibe with Mariah (we all have those friends hahaha) know "Triumphant". In your opinion: What's Mariah's most popular un-famous song? I think more people know "Almost Home" then the Lambs realize. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 04:44)

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