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Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,182) by Dove from United States I love this article and these looks. I love the oversized coat jacket look but only for a photoshoot, let's please not go from one extreme to another. I wanted to clarify my "sometimes vulgar" comment in my last post. I wasn't saying most of her ensembles are vulgar, there are a lot of looks I love, too. I love the gold dress for the BET performance, the black ensemble at Capital's Summertime Ball, the Jimmy Kimmel animal print look I would have rated 100 if the top part had just covered a little bit more of her chest. The pink sparkly dress when she's mixing the cake mix was really pretty, again I would have loved it more if she would have covered just a bit more of her chest. I don't wish for her to walk around wearing a burka all day, she's a very beautiful woman. I don't love overly sexual looks on anyone. But that's just my opinion. I'm going to support her no matter what she chooses to wear. I'll always have an opinion about it, though. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 12:32)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,181) by Dove from United States Just to be clear, I don't have a problem with any of her music, I pretty much love all of it. What I don't love is the sometimes vulgar ensemble choices. And I miss when she was more open and had funny stories to share about her life in interviews. Now it's always the same questions and short responses. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 12:14) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,180) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I love the cover. She looks like an absolute boss. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:58) this is a reply to message 110,173

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,173) by TJ from Norway The first picture. Wow. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:18)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,179) by TJ from Norway I have never had a problem with Mariah doing black music. Never. I never knew it was about colour. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:48) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,178) by Terna from Nigeria Getting uncomfortable I see. Lol. I wasn't the one who insinuated or brought it up, I just responded to his message and acknowledged he got that part, he's black too as he stated and gets it. "Butterfly" never did the numbers "Music Box" and "Daydream" did for that one fact. It is an R&B/HipHop album. Facts. But look at how highly rated that album is in contemporary music today. It is also her "Magnum Opus", she achieved her best work, being her authentic true self. I haven't "crowned" myself poison or anything negative here, as you put it, I'm not the one spitting vitriol out at Mariah here masked as "OG Love", from the OG Coven. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:47) this is a reply to message 110,170

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,170) by Jamie from UK Can we just stick to the facts and not make this about some race war please. If you're talking music styles then yes I love urban/R&B Mariah but I wasn't talking about that. You've taken what we have been saying into your own context and twisted it into black vs white. Again shame on you. I think you've just crowned yourself the "poison" on this forum. We all love Mariah in our own way, respect people's opinions and stop being rude to people. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:03)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,177) by Randy from USA Absolutely stunning photos... and yall know by now, I don't like anything. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:32)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,176) by Lambi from USA Yes I'm just such a fan I couldn't wait for your response. I'm truly riveted for you. This validation means everything. Stacey the goated OG lamb. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:29) this is a reply to message 110,174

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,174) by Stacey from USA Ironically you are here too responding to my posts, lol. Imagine that. Thank you for calling me the goated lamb. My self worth is now full. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:23)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,175) by Stacey from USA Thanks Jaime. Oh my gosh, I messed up your name. Thanks Jamie. Good thing school starts up in a few days. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:25) this is a reply to message 110,171

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,171) by Jamie from UK I love the name Sydney. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:04)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,174) by Stacey from USA Ironically you are here too responding to my posts, lol. Imagine that. Thank you for calling me the goated lamb. My self worth is now full. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:23) this is a reply to message 110,172

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,172) by Lambi from USA I mean makes perfect sense. You're the goated lamb and you're here all day. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:10)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,173) by TJ from Norway The first picture. Wow. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:18)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,172) by Lambi from USA I mean makes perfect sense. You're the goated lamb and you're here all day. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:10) this is a reply to message 110,169

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,169) by Stacey from USA Thanks. I appreciate it. My entire self worth hinges on what people think of me here. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:56)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,171) by Jamie from UK I love the name Sydney. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:04) this is a reply to message 110,165

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,165) by Stacey from USA I absolutely love accents. I was in line at Disney when a woman with her daughter got behind me. They were from Sydney, Australia. (I named my daughter Sydney.) We chatted and I told her she had a lovely accent. I am from Southern California. The only accent I have is how So Cal peeps tend to put "the" in front of a freeway. (Ex: You take "the" 15 to "the" 210, etc.). That's not even an accent, lol. Oh well, at least we have beaches. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 09:55)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,170) by Jamie from UK Can we just stick to the facts and not make this about some race war please. If you're talking music styles then yes I love urban/R&B Mariah but I wasn't talking about that. You've taken what we have been saying into your own context and twisted it into black vs white. Again shame on you. I think you've just crowned yourself the "poison" on this forum. We all love Mariah in our own way, respect people's opinions and stop being rude to people. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:03) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,169) by Stacey from USA Thanks. I appreciate it. My entire self worth hinges on what people think of me here. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:56) this is a reply to message 110,166

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,166) by Lambi from USA How rude of him. Don't worry, we will keep believing you are the goated OG lamb and definitely not a wannabe. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:41)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,168) by Stacey from USA The 2006 Grammy performance was pre-recorded vocals mixed with some live parts. Next. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:54) this is a reply to message 110,161

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,161) by Terna from Nigeria Just one question, Stacey, dear. Was that 2006 Grammy performance live or lipsynched as you claimed it was? (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 06:11)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,167) by Jamie from UK Yes she looks gorgeous here. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:51)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,166) by Lambi from USA How rude of him. Don't worry, we will keep believing you are the goated OG lamb and definitely not a wannabe. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:41) this is a reply to message 110,153

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,153) by Stacey from USA You are late to the party. Edward already ratted me out for being a wannabe OG. See message 109,973. "Stacey, what did we say about going off-script? You can't just go around expressing your own opinions like that, people will start thinking you're not just a mindless extension of me. Next time, wait for my email with the approved talking points. I really hate to do this publicly, but I'm afraid this calls for a light reprimand." (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 03:41)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,165) by Stacey from USA I absolutely love accents. I was in line at Disney when a woman with her daughter got behind me. They were from Sydney, Australia. (I named my daughter Sydney.) We chatted and I told her she had a lovely accent. I am from Southern California. The only accent I have is how So Cal peeps tend to put "the" in front of a freeway. (Ex: You take "the" 15 to "the" 210, etc.). That's not even an accent, lol. Oh well, at least we have beaches. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 09:55) this is a reply to message 110,158

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,158) by Bobby A from United States Yes, MusicFanJ. People always point out to me my deep southern accent and I hate it. I hate the question: Where are you from? I guess that is definitely why I am able to detect an individual's accent from New York, Boston, Chicago, East Tennessee or Europe. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:10)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,164) by Zachariah from Croatia The suit look - what a presence. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 07:40)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,163) by Norman from USA 100% agreed I've been dreaming of her wearing a suit like this for a while now. The Ellen suit was cute but much too tight for her. This is giving style, lux, fashion, tailoring, icon, relevance, Bish I'm still here. It exceeded expectations. I saw a photoshoot with Julia Roberts a few years ago in a big suit like that (she wore them a lot in the 90s, too) and it looked amazing. I started praying Mimi would allow someone to style her like that. Color me pleasantly shocked. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 06:50) this is a reply to message 110,147

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,147) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands This is the kind of looks I want to see from Mariah. I love it. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 02:12)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,162) by Stacey from USA Agree. I can't shout loud enough how much I love that look. She looks fierce, a force to be reckoned with. More of that please. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 06:21) this is a reply to message 110,147

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,147) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands This is the kind of looks I want to see from Mariah. I love it. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 02:12)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,161) by Terna from Nigeria Just one question, Stacey, dear. Was that 2006 Grammy performance live or lipsynched as you claimed it was? (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 06:11) this is a reply to message 110,123

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,123) by Stacey from USA I should feel ashamed, but I don't. I think us silly and dumb OG fans only want the best for MC. Two more dollars in my pocket. (Monday 28 July 2025; 07:45)

Bazaar UK cover (110,160) by Lighty from China So refreshing to see Mariah in a suit for a magazine cover shoot. The interview itself is not that informative though. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:48)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12) this is a reply to message 110,131

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,131) by Matthew from USA Every time someone on here proclaims themselves an OG, I have to take a deep breath and proceed with caution. Mariah has stated multiple times how controlled and unhappy she was in the first several years of her career. She threw herself into her work and convinced herself this was the price she had to pay for success. Other friends like Brat even wondered "How do you live like this?" It's a little weird to see all the OG's being nostalgic for this era. The OG's say she was a proper lady in this era - classy, dignified, pristine, graceful, and her true authentic self. They mourn her current state, which one is left to assume is the opposite of all those adjectives. I'm not here to invalidate anyone's opinion, but I can provide another perspective that Terna expressed - we both happen to be black. In our culture Mariah is viewed as bougie and fancy. Initially we were like "Who is this white girl singing down like that? Okay Mariah, Get down with your bad self. Do your thing, girl." I don't think one culture's perspective is more important than another's, but I think we should remember to try and view the whole. I do think Mariah would be disheartened that who she is now is causing so much sadness and heartache to the OG's. But I don't think she would go back (and no shade, but I heard the Walter song and I agree with her). I think she would sadly hand y'all the Art of Letting Go record. Go to Mimi on your contacts. Press delete. End your suffering. If it's any consolation, the OG's can always treasure the memory of Tommy controlled Mariah, when she was being her true authentic self. (Monday 28 July 2025; 13:59)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,158) by Bobby A from United States Yes, MusicFanJ. People always point out to me my deep southern accent and I hate it. I hate the question: Where are you from? I guess that is definitely why I am able to detect an individual's accent from New York, Boston, Chicago, East Tennessee or Europe. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:10) this is a reply to message 110,140

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,140) by MusicfanJ from Germany Did she always had the New York accent or did she switch sometimes? It's an interesting observation. I have to watch the interviews, but I fear only a native speaker will notice. Does the New York accent sound strong for Americans from other states? I just remember an old interview with Rosie where they were talking about beeing both Long Island girls. (Monday 28 July 2025; 20:05)

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