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Re: Endless Love (101,114) (101,121) by Bill from the UK Endless Love is divine. For me, it beats out the original by miles. Lionel and Diana's version is nice, but both Luther and Mariah are superior singers and their voices are so rich and soulful and gel together so perfectly. Like a full bodied wine. The live version in London is one of Mariah's best ever performances. I'm lucky to have the promo CD with that version on it. They also sang it live on Top of the Pops as well together. They sang a shorter version but it was still great. The video is also one of my faves. The warm hues, Mariah looks so great, and I love her "studio" videos (except Infamous of course). Just a beautiful song, sang wonderfully by both of them. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 21:43)

Re: Endless Love (101,114) (101,120) by Terna from Nigeria I always said this as well, that live performance of "Endless Love" is so much better than the actual recording, I'm guessing because there's also engagement between the two and the crowd. And let's not forget that intro by Luther, makes me smile every time. Mariah's vocal prime was very short - where I don't sense any issues with her voice and it is operating at its full potential and that's from 1990 to 1994. By "Daydream" you can already tell there was a problem in her mid–register with the sudden loss of the "heft" in her voice. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 16:18)

Re: Endless Love (101,114) (101,119) by Edward from USA It's not just awesome, it's simple impeccable, epic, unrepeatable! A moment in time. When I discovered it, I watched it thousands of times, and I still watch it. Mariah was simply beautiful, her demeanor was lovely, and Luther, well, Luther was just perfect. Luther had that distinctive buttery voice that's rarely ever heard anymore. May he rest in peace. I do miss him. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 14:23)

Re: Pregnancy (101,115) (101,118) by Edward from USA First of all, how do you know my experience/knowledge? Your opinion, just as mine, is an opinion. For your information, and this is not an opinion, you don't have to be 300lbs to be obese, your BMI only has to be 30 or above for that to happen. Most people we consider overweight are actually obese, but that wasn't the point of my post. Mariah herself had a very difficult pregnancy with the twins when she was in her very early 40's, so I doubt she would just decide to get pregnant out of the blue just for the fun of it. I also stated that her weight gain is most likely due to other factors. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 14:14)

Re: Endless Love (101,114) (101,117) by MusicfanJ from Germany Indeed. Such a beautiful song. Luther and Mariah sounded so good. That was music. Soul from the heart. The live version is one of my favourites too. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 13:19)

Exhausted and angry (101,116) by Carlos from Brazil I got myself a bit worried after listening to the Meghan podcast. When she asked Mariah to describe herself in three words she said exhausted, angry yet hopeful or something. I hope Mariah is ok. She really sounded very tired. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 12:56)

Re: Pregnancy (101,113) (101,115) by Junaid from United Kingdom Sorry Edward but you shouldn't comment on people's bodies especially with such lack of knowledge/experience. Mariah is not obese. Mariah would have to be approximately 87 kg or nearly 200 lb to be classed as obese for her height and gender. Anyone with eyes can see she's not. Menopause starts between your mid 40s and mid 50s. Mariah is in the age range for menopause which would make pregnancy difficult. Any pregnancy over the age of 37 is high risk and classed as a geriatric pregnancy. Mariah also had a pregnancy that has incurred pre eclampsia and gestational diabetes which is likely to reoccur. There's many medical reasons Mariah would struggle to have a baby (see above) but weight isn't an issue and is highly ignorant to think it is. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 11:41)

Endless Love (101,114) by Bobby A from United States The live concert version of this song is truly awesome. MC was truly at her best during her vocal prime years of 1993-1998. You knew when she used her hand she was about to give us some gorgeous live vocals. (Thursday 1 September 2022; 00:36)

Pregnancy (101,113) by Edward from USA I doubt Marian would decide to get pregnant at 53. If she wanted more babies, she probably would've used a surrogate. Her obesity might be a result of other factors. She will definitely be in shape for Christmas. (Wednesday 31 August 2022; 18:02)

Re: New music (101,106) (101,112) by jaker20 from US I agree that we would normally know because she would be in her best shape. But maybe it's time to be confident of her new shape as well. And also right now, she would miss a great opportunity. The points are so low for songs in the top 10. That is how Beyonce got a number 1, not because it's a good song, but because there's not a lot of competition. I love her but I'm sorry, that song is just awful. Taylor is also releasing because she know this, so it's going to be all about her. I think Mariah is badly managed, and her releases during the past 10 years are badly timed. (Wednesday 31 August 2022; 15:40)

Re: Happiness (101,110) (101,111) by Randy from USA Let me say this. I have been very hard on MC. I want her to make a lyrically driven album that is a la Close My Eyes, Languishing, Right To Dream and Looking In for the entire album. No songs about romantic love. Just songs about life. Her voice. A piano. A guitar. But to speak on what makes her happy? She's given us more than enough, if she never ever makes another album. We destroyed Britney Spears. We killed Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson and Prince. When I criticize MC it's because she created a titanium standard. But I'd rather her be happy than cater to her fans. Eat. Drink. Be merry and hibernate until Christmas if that's what keeps you alive. (Wednesday 31 August 2022; 10:09)

Happiness (101,110) by Lady B from USA What do you think makes Mariah happy these days? For me, in no particular order, I think it's spending time with her twins, engaging with her fans, business endeavors, music (but not in the "make an album every 2 years" way, a "I love music, and will engage it how I please, when I please" way) and having fun. (Wednesday 31 August 2022; 04:39)

Re: New music (101,106) (101,109) by 123 from USA I think she's pregnant. Maybe I'm wrong. In the last pics I saw of her, every single one she is using something to cover her stomach. In one pic you can see Tanaka hand her a fan. It would make sense since everything stopped all of a sudden. All these hints to something coming in late March/April and then radio silence. If she is, congrats to her, if not, hopefully we will get some new music next year, because it doesn't seem like anything other than Christmas merch is coming our way this year. (Wednesday 31 August 2022; 04:07)

Re: New music (101,106) (101,108) by Norman from USA That's always been my take on her actually having something new out - she'd get in shape. It's been her tell. I'm not here to judge her on her figure, I'm just stating an observation. I don't think she's releasing anything anytime soon. She could be changing her formula, but I'm skeptical. So long as she's happy, it's all good. I simply don't want to hear about projects that won't come to fruition. (Wednesday 31 August 2022; 03:28)

Re: New music (101,106) (101,107) by Bobby A from United States MC's speaking voice has gotten deeper too. When is the Global concert event? It is going to be interesting how she sounds live in 2022. (Wednesday 31 August 2022; 01:39)

New music (101,106) by Edward from USA I don't think Mariah is about to release any new music anytime soon. When she's about to release a new project, she usually works on getting fit for video shoots and interiews, but judging by her outing the other day, she's not in the best of shapes to shoot video with Ariana or anyone, Mariah said she used everything she had for Butterfly, so I doubt there's anything left from that era. As for the demos for "All Cried Out" and the other two songs, unless they had been left overs from her previous work, I doubt she recorded them. I'm hoping to be proven wrong though. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 21:16)

Meghan Markle podcast (101,105) by TheWind from England Predictably, we learned absolutely nothing new from that podcast, and Mariah continued to art of answering, but not answering some questions. However, it was so nice to hear Mariah handle the conversation, and speak to MM as a regular person. It was also good to hear Mariah almost control the conversation, despite being interviewed. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 17:58)

Re: Nicki Minaj thanked Mariah (101,101) (101,104) by Randy from USA Delusionals hate when I come with analysis and facts lol I am very very calm. And I still love MC but wrong is wrong and Ima call it when I see it. I hope you guys are right about a Butterfly 25th although the fact that it's two and a half weeks away with no official press release makes me think it's not happening. Butterfly is my favorite album of all time by any artist and it was the moment I switched from Whitney being my number one to MC being my number one. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 15:08)

Re: Butterfly 25 (101,102) (101,103) by Bill from the UK Yep, I really hope it is true, or at least some of it (the Allure demos). And I think irrespective of when someone became a Mariah fan, we all recognise how important Butterfly is to Mariah and what the album represents in terms of her growth as both a person and artist. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 14:18)

Re: Butterfly 25 (101,085) (101,102) by Terna from Nigeria This is similar to the tracklistings I saw floating around on twitter, and is going to be special for her true Lambs if indeed it is true. Honestly, I could take this as "Butterfly 2.0" and don't get me started, finally hearing her own versions of "Last Chance", "All cried out" and "Head Over Heels". I became a fan in the "Butterfly" era so this is a big deal for me. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 10:33)

Re: Nicki Minaj thanked Mariah (101,097) (101,101) by Steven Berning from USA Calm down. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 03:47)

Re: If saying... (101,081) (101,100) by Stacey from USA I agree it's negativity if someone says those things. What I don't agree with is calling out that person for saying such things. Starting a thread solely about the alleged tone of the board. Who cares? What someone else says or does doesn't change what I do. Carey on. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 02:59)

Re: Butterfly 25 (101,098) (101,099) by Bobby A from United States I really messed this up. I need to slow down. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 01:44)

Re: Butterfly 25 (101,095) (101,098) by Bobby A from United States I really believe this is really the actual tracklisting. Reddit is reporting a 2 disc set with the original Butterfly album and the new tracklisting. MC is really making a statement that I am the Vocal Queen and the original Dance Queen. Notice how MC chose Halle Bailey over Chloe Bailey for Breakdown. Must be a subtle shade to Beyonce and her protégé Chloe. We should know after September 2nd with be listed many retailers website when the album is coming out. Who knows, maybe the Jumpsmokers Remix album will be a bonus disc. Good times are on the way. (Tuesday 30 August 2022; 00:14)

Re: Nicki Minaj thanked Mariah (101,094) (101,097) by Randy from USA Because they had worked together. They did the Up Out My Face remix. Mariah was signed to American Idol for $18 million. Then Nicki was signed later for $12 million. Nicki then said she was told, Mariah doesn't want you here by staff and crew. Nicki said "No, I know her. That's not true." When they began filming, Mariah was sniping and being shady and petty. Which is why Nicki flipped out. I wouldn't have believed Nicki's version of events if Mariah hadn't kept reiterating that she (MC) expected to be the only female judge like JLo was. Mariah said that fifteen million times. I didn't understand why she was so bothered by someone who clearly idolized her. And ima be honest. Nicki gave better criticisms. But "real fans" will say the show edited the fight or didn't give MC enough time to talk so it seemed like MC didn't have good criticism. I'll tell you this. MC was beat to the gods in makeup hair and wardrobe but yet she didn't have enough time to give good criticism? Nah. Nicki won that round. Now Madonna started that feud talking about "the country that buys MC albums acquitted OJ Simpson". Eminem started that feud by saying they had a relationship. I do believe he jacked off on her stomach and she acted like his semen was nuclear waste. That's so MC. But that's his fault. JLo I have an issue with. I think that was Cory Rooney who stole the idea he heard of "If We" for JLo's I'm Real. And Tommy stole Firecracker as a sample for the album version of "I'm Real". I don't think JLo had a lot to do with it but MC still hates her. (Monday 29 August 2022; 22:52)

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