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Re: Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree (99,072) (99,083) by Bill from the UK Precisely, Mariah's fans have nothing to do with AIWFCIY being a success, it's, simply put, just a brilliant song. If it was purely Mariah's fanbase that saw it reach #1 across the globe, Save the Day would have had the same success. But it didn't, because it was a horrific song. (Thursday 9 December 2021; 13:58)

Re: Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree (99,067) (99,082) by TJ from Norway There are not enough lambs in the world to do that. That's the reason why her new releases don't do well on charts. Even I (a long-time collector) have stopped buying her latest albums (except The Rarities, but that's another story). Merry Christmas. (Thursday 9 December 2021; 05:01)

Re: Why can't it be 30 minutes Christmas Special 2021 (99,080) (99,081) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Me and my partner (and our two dogs ) had a whole date night to watch it for the first time tonight ... not realizing it was only 18 minutes long, and mostly an interview. I expected the spectacular we got last year; with even more guest stars, I thought Ariana would come by again, Kelly Clarkson, Kelly Rowland and Nas or Busta. I'm happy to see Tanaka with his cute new hair thoufg. But I thought this would be a true sequel to last years with how massive it was with the public worldwide. (Thursday 9 December 2021; 04:22)

Why can't it be 30 minutes Christmas Special 2021 (99,080) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia I wonder why Mariah only end up performing two songs. With the grand stage set, costumes, dancers, dress, Mariah can add one or two more songs and it can be 30 minutes Christmas Special 2021. She can add songs that she never done before like Miss You Most At Christmas Time (fan favorite) and Jesus Oh What A Wonderful Child or even Where Are You Christmas. (Thursday 9 December 2021; 01:07)

Where's Trey? (99,079) by Todd from Sydney, Australia G'day ladies and gents. Happy almost Christmas! I've noticed the last few things Mariah has done that Trey Lorenz has been MIA. Hopefully he's just been unavailable and it's not a falling out. On another note, I'm enjoying the Christmas albums - AIWFCIY and Oh Santa (with AG & JH) always seem to find their way on my Spotify. What other Christmas albums are y'all listening to? Gave Kelly Clarkson's new one a spin but it was a bit "meh". (Thursday 9 December 2021; 00:50)

Re: Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree (99,067) (99,078) by Stacey from USA Honestly it doesn't matter if AIWFCIY hits #1 again. The song hit #1 two years in a row. No holiday song has ever done that, let alone a holiday song 25 years after its release. It is Mariah's 19th #1 song. It's a number one. Nothing can change that. Enjoy the holiday season. Merry Christmas. (Thursday 9 December 2021; 00:35)

James Corden (99,077) by Bobby A from United States This is the night that MC will be on Late Late Show with James Corden. The TV Guide lists her as the sole guest. I hope that it is something special. (Thursday 9 December 2021; 00:14)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) (99,076) by Mara from United States Hi Randy. Nice to see an old time familiar face. As it was said before, not a lot of the people who always posted seem to post anymore. Nice to see you pop in. Hope you are well. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 19:43)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) (99,075) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Mariah has literally been singing this tune and rolling her eyes at the Grammy's for a decade and a half (a female who was at the top of her game), knowing they are so inconsistent and it's all opinion and music politics based. Now that The Weekend and Drake are getting vocal about the same issue (males currently at the top of their game), the public seem to be all ears and listening and questioning. There's no rhyme or reason for nominations or wins; if it was only what's popular, The Weekend would be nominated in every category that pertained to him in 2020 (rather then a fat snub). If it was all a deep scientific research based deep dive into quality music (whatever that would look like) Milli Vanilli never would have won even if they actually song on their album. Whether it was Emotions (song), the entire Daydream era fiasco, the entire Butterfly album, or even Caution album, the random snubs and dismissal is clear as day that it's an inside hateration job. Is Beyoncé really worth half a million Grammy's? Is U2, seriously? I wish Mariah's intro at talk shows and award shows would stop saying "5 time Grammy winner..." as the lead. Drop that and say "19 World Music Awards; 15 Billboard music Awards, the legend and Songbird Supreme Mariah Carey". (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 19:15)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,071) (99,074) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Hi Randy. Nice to see you, hope you are well. Happy Holidays. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 18:50)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) (99,073) by T from USA Exactly. On a side note, when [are] we getting that MC Drake collaboration? (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 17:04)

Re: Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree (99,067) (99,072) by Edward from USA The song has gone to #1 because the general public likes it, and it's a good thing. The lambs left don't have any control over its position on the charts anymore, if they had, an awesome album like "The Rarities" would've sold millions. Two years in a row going to #1 is a great accomplishment, the song has legs of its own, it doesn't depend on Mariah of the lambs where it will go. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 16:30)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) (99,071) by Edward from USA Hi Randy, I sure miss you. I do miss Andrew too, I hope he's doing well. Many of the regulars very rarely post anymore. I do agree with you. The Grammy's have been for years now a popularity contest. Most of the members are not what one would consider music experts, they're mere mortals like the rest of us hence their vote towards what's popular. I'm not saying that Alanis Morissette and Seal didn't deserve to win since those were great records, but it seemed to be there were forces working against Mariah to win anything that night. Don't be a stranger, it gets boring here on a regular basis. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 16:22)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) (99,070) by Bill from the UK "Remakes of her remakes that sound like an alien singing in auto tune." I'm dead. Good to hear from you Randy, hope you have been well. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 16:19)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) (99,069) by Bobby A from United States Hi Randy. It is so good to hear from you especially your commentary about MC. Are you a professional writer? (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 12:35)

Re: I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) (99,068) by Jamie from UK Haha morning Randy. Loved that. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 11:19)

Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree (99,067) by Pedro from Brazil This song is already #2 on Spotify. AIWFCIY has fallen to #6. If Lambs don't stream harder this year, it wont be #1 again. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 03:30)

Re: Grammy snub in Spoken Word Album Category (98,992) (99,066) by SM from Citizen of the World Drake has withdrawn his two Grammy nominations, he probably knows they are scammies. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 03:03)

Re: Condolences (99,061) (99,065) by Stacey from USA I was just about to post about this. Rest in peace little one. Condolences to the family. (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 01:40)

I stopped by to talk about... Drake? (99,064) by Randy from USA Hey everyone: Eric, Robert-Anthony, Edward, Jade, Hilton and even RJ112 and Terna. I still see what's going on here every now and then but I'm not invested as much in MC. She's moving in a different direction than I am, you know 60 pound dresses, McDonalds promos in the middle of the ocean and remakes of her remakes that sound like an alien singing in auto tune. What's next, a cookie line? Anyway. I said I'm gonna be more positive. I gotta give it to Drake for withdrawing himself from the Grammys. On the surface it seems like a pretty pampered suburban boy thug whining. But in actuality we have been saying this for years. I love Bonnie Raitt but how could she beat MC for best pop female vocal for Emotions in 1991? There has never been a vocal that ridiculous on wax. And it's not just the whistles. Listen to the low note at the bottom of the last run. Listen to the high full voice adlibs. It's insane. I don't quite think it's a New Year's Eve song though. It brings down the mood. 1996 was a tough year for Grammy voters and I love Kiss From A Rose, I Apologize and Jagged Little Pill but some obscure track from Annie Lennox over Fantasy? Those aren't sweet dreams. Or sweet Daydreams or sweet Fantasies. That selection really happened. 2005 was the ultimate diss. Firstly, I'm an older fan, not necessarily a lamb, more like a butterfly in a wool coat. But I remember leading up to the Grammys, the critics predicting MC was going to win because the Grammys love a comeback story. The critics said U2 deserved to win because they had the better album but Mariah would prevail. Then MC went through all that late night memorizing where the pasted studio raspy vocals that matched her live texture were cued and the audience, respecting seeing her sweat, gave her a standing ovation. Eric I swear I have a point. Indulge me a little. I was beat up mercilessly for my analysis in 2006 on this board, by the way, and now everyone knows that that performance was a masterful dice job. Anyway back to the 2006 Grammies. Now years later, after Kanye peed in his Grammy and Drake has thrown up deuces, the critics are listing the 2006 Album of the Year snub as one of Grammys gravest errors, pointing out U2 doesn't even perform songs from How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb. Something smells fishier than Florence SC. Home of the fish sandwich. Only wool crusted butterflies would get that reference. Andrew if you're out there, I hope you're well. Everyone else, I love this board and I just have to ask, did ya miss me? (Wednesday 8 December 2021; 01:30)

Re: Debut Mariah (99,062) (99,063) by Jamie from UK Yeah but as we've shown she got herself back between 2005-2010 she was very humble again and grounded. All I'm saying is at the moment and for a while she's taken on this whole persona. I'm not asking for debut Mariah back that would be silly as times change, yes people do change but they still retain elements of who they are. To me it's like she's lost all of who she once was. I love Mariah and always will but I'd love her to take time out to find herself again like she was in the video Bill shared, humble grounded and in touch with reality. (Tuesday 7 December 2021; 22:01)

Debut Mariah (99,062) by Tyler from United States For everyone who wants the old Mariah back. That ship has sailed. For a superstar of Mariah's caliber, she's about as normal and down to earth as you're ever going to get. Think of the others that were/are her true icon-level peers (Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Madonna). You don't soar to those heights and stay the same person. Add the upbringing to the super fame and you get what you have. Lambs are lucky she does as well as she does. I think she's perfect. (Tuesday 7 December 2021; 18:28)

Condolences (99,061) by RibbonB from USA To Nick Cannon and family, for losing this youngest child, Zen, to brain cancer. Tragic. (Tuesday 7 December 2021; 18:25)

AIWFCIY (99,060) by Bobby A from United States It rises on the Hot 100 chart from 12 to 3 (see: Mariah Carey back to top 10). Adele is holding #1 for another week. (Tuesday 7 December 2021; 13:48)

Re: Me thinking again (99,051) (99,059) by Bobby A from United States I understand better now, Edward. She needs a young songwriter, producer, and vocal coach like Madicin. Check out his songs on Kenny Lattimore's Here To Stay. This young man is the Babyface of today. (Monday 6 December 2021; 23:38)

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