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Re: Cool On You (95,799) (95,802) by Bill from the UK Agree. It sounds great, much better than 4real4real which made it onto the Japanese edition. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 18:35)

We Belong Together "clones" (95,801) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Could any one of the numerous people who state or infer that Mariah has made several/numerous/dozens-of clones of We Belong Together please relate: 1. The names of all the songs they believe fall into this category 2. The specific attributes of the songs that place them in this category (Sunday 27 September 2020; 17:22)

Re: Oprah interview (95,792) (95,800) by BFF from United States Someone with the enormous financial resources that Mariah has at her disposal has had plenty of opportunities to heal. To me, a lot of this performative victimhood and performance of traumatization is more about selling books and music than it is about "healing". And I'm sorry, but for her to compare her experience with the police in 2001 to police-involved killings happening in the United States is vapid, narcissistic, and selfish. The vast majority of people with psychiatric diagnoses "heal" in private through work with a psychologist and/or psychiatrist and do not receive publicity, attention, pity, etcetera. And it does take years to work through it. But performing it publicly with the goal of eliciting a pity party is not part of normal "healing". Sorry, but it's not. And I apply the same standard to myself. I believe that I would have gotten past a lot of my own issues if people surrounding me had not been constantly encouraging me to think of myself as a victim. I was able to get past things with the help of medication but, more importantly, I stopped holding on to grudges, I forgave people (family members particularly), cut off relationships that were not healthy, took responsibility for my own choices, and let go of this victim identity that I allowed to define my life for so long. I believe Mariah when she says that a lot of this stuff was/is painful for her, but I think rehashing stuff in such a public fashion indicates that the goal is not just "healing". And this is not to say that she should simply "get over it". But Mariah and other celebrities often have a lot of "Yes" people surrounding them. This often means that they are often unable to see themselves in a truly objective fashion. Mariah has had periods in which she was very self destructive, particularly during the 2014-2017 period with Stella. I've always respected Mariah's artistry. I always knew about the fact that her parents were an interracial couple and found it infuriating when Nelson George called her a "white girl who sings black". But I cannot help but wonder if the narrative being cooked up now is in the service of an agenda, and maybe that isn't entirely Mariah's. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 16:18)

Re: Cool On You (95,781) (95,799) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I usually would hold my thoughts until the whole song drops, but this is just too good. It only takes 15 seconds of a preview for this song to establish itself as a sexy, festive bop. That's all it takes to make you wonder how the hell did this not easily replace any of the We Belong Together clones on E=MC2, or at least make it as a regional bonus track. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 14:59)

Columbia Records/Sony (95,798) by Bobby A from United States It very good that these big three still make money for Columbia and Sony. 1. Barb[a]ra Streisand 2. Mariah Carey 3. Bruce Springsteen 4. Michael Jackson (Sunday 27 September 2020; 13:51)

OHOMO lyric vdeo Easter egg (95,797) by Dennis from Miami, FL Mariah has twitted that in the lyric video there is "a lil Easter egg". Has anyone figured out what is it already? (Sunday 27 September 2020; 11:38)

Oprah interview (95,796) by Kaj Mandalia from UK Hi all, I'm sure you're all looking forward to her book. I can't wait. After watching the Oprah interview and being a lamb for 30 years it was heartbreaking to hear the depth of her torment and what she went through as a child. Understandably it still must be raw but this book most certainly will have been carthatic for her. However, we would never be able to appreciate Mariah, her songs, lyrics, vocals and star quality if she hadn't been through what she did. I say this from a good place. I would never hope such things to happen to anybody but Mariah's journey from her God given voice and her experiences in life has allowed us to be blessed with music and songs that can never be matched. There will never be a raw, artistic writer singer artist like Mariah. Her journey in life although sad has been the catalyst to a rare diamond that now truly truly shines. Sorry for my waffle, I hardly send messages but always reading the messages of my fellow lambs. PS Andrew I salute you. I love your take on things and I do concur at times. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 11:04)

Re: October 2nd (95,784) (95,795) by Lady B from USA I can't wait for it to come out. I'll be streaming it 24/7. I'm most looking forward to hearing the original Loverboy and Close My Eyes. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 08:04)

Follow-up to The Meaning of Mariah Carey (95,794) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa This is such a daydream, but I would love Mariah to follow up her memoir with: The Encyclopedia of Mariah Carey Vol. 1 This would be a reference guide to all of her music, released and unreleased. When they were written, recorded, who worked on them, the studios used, etc. It will also include inspiration behind each song. My vision is for this to be solely focused on her career (which of course will dip into the personal) and not so much about personal details that don't pertain to her work. Mariah comes from a breed of artists with a truly remarkable work ethic, prolific artists. She is extremely hands on in her career and I feel like this encyclopedia would be an interesting guide for more than just her fans, but people that study music and also up and coming musicians. And since it will include all of her unreleased music, the success of The Encyclopedia of Mariah Carey would create a great demand for the release of all the other hidden gems that she has. Enter: The Rarities Vol. 2. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 06:28)

Why is she still talking about JLo? (95,793) by mimi from Nederland Ugh, she is a 50+ year old woman and still has grudges against a woman that might have hurt you 20 years ago. She comes of as very childish to still pretend like she "doesn't know JLo" and be mean. Mariah herself also stole beats from other artists, she had to go to court for it. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 03:33)

Re: Oprah interview (95,773) (95,792) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I get where you are coming from, I really do. But, Mariah's journey with her past and her story is hers and no one else's. Telling someone to get over their past and let it go is not what creates a healed and whole person. Nor is instructing that person to stop playing a victim. Healing doesn't work that way: if it did, my work with clients would only last one meeting. It isn't that simple.unfortunately. Changing the relationship to your pain is an ongoing thing and requires effort: I hope she continues to work through it, because the interview made it very clear these experiences are still very alive for her. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 02:40)

Re: October 2nd (95,784) (95,791) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Besides new album releases from Bon Jovi, Dolly Parton and William Shatner, and YG, MC may be #1 the following week on the Billboard 200. It would be so nice for this to happen." Bobby-A, there are a few things in life I truly love and amongst them are Mariah Carey and Star Trek. So forgive me, but I may genuinely, actually, be rooting for William smurfing Shatner, here. Legend. "Scotty, I need Number 1 now or we're all dead." "Captain, there's an enemy album closing in." "Open hailing frequencies." "Hailing frequencies open, Sir." "Spock, what is that hideous noise?" "I'm not sure, Captain. A weapon of seemingly immense pain. Sensors show it's called.. Save The Day. Shall we raise shields, Captain?" "No. Computer, set auto-destruct." A Mariah Carey/William Shatner joke on the MCA messageboard. Bet you thought you'd never see the day. But that may be enough wine for tonight. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 02:17)

Re: I'm proud of Mariah (95,766) (95,790) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I love this. So well put. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 02:01)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,780) (95,789) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "I want it to feel like when I was 3 and the Butterfly album came out." The only thing that came out when you were three was you. The butterfly was not even a glint in his caterpillar dad's eye when you were that young. Interestingly, after pupa, butterflies only live for a matter of months; some, only weeks. There is a butterfly that survives only a day after chrysalis. I often think this one of the beautiful messages of the butterfly symbol: You may wait a lifetime for your inner beauty to be recognised; you may wait a comparative age for your day in the sun - and it may just be that it is only one day in the sun. But always hold on. Always. Your day will come and it sure as shit will be worth it. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 01:44)

The Oprah interview (95,788) by Terna from Nigeria What an eye opener. I wasn't ready for all the revelations that were made, the way she describes her mother's personality as "beauty and the beast" all wrapped up in one being was just disturbing. The apparent resentment and envy from all 3 just makes me sick to my stomach. This woman has been through hell emotionally, from a very young age. She's never really experienced that stability and security most of us as kids had growing up, it's been a tupsy turvy kinda ride for her. And then there was Tommy a second wave of emotional turmoil and abuse, the way she describes that time in her life, made me realize Mariah could've easily ended up kinda like Britney Spears today with absolutely no soul, nor control over anything to do with her career or even her personal life. What I take from this interview and the few things discussed is that she is a destiny child that apparently had a special calling and so the devil attacked her very early on and is still relentless until this very day, but in as much as all that was happening God was and still is with her. The story about Leontyne Price made me really emotional, but I also realize that even those considered legends that came before her could recognize that this woman is something special, she is indeed the one. Aretha Franklin was another one who saw it. Those words "treated me kind, sweet destiny" resound ever so true, there's a higher power involved when it comes to Mariah Carey. Towards the end of the interview I got an epiphany of some sort - the last line from Whitney Houston's "I didn't know my own strength" is how I feel about Mariah, "I was not built to break, I got to know my own strength". (Sunday 27 September 2020; 01:23)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,785) (95,787) by Edward from USA I must admit I have sinned, I watched the interview, and it was sad, but great interview nonetheless. There are some spoilers, but not enough to ruin the book, just enough to keep us salivating. But I refuse to sin again by listening to any of the snippets, that I won't do. Even if I have to tide myself to a pole, I won't. Reading how many of you think the snippets sound amazing, it's very tempting. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 01:13)

Oprah interview (95,786) by We are lambily from USA I personally loved the interview and it might be her most personal one so far, the reviews for the interview and book have been astonishing. It's obvious that her family have put her through a lot of crap and we shouldn't tolerate stuff just because people are related to us. Mariah and her relationship with her mother is a complex one, she instilled Mariah with the belief that she could succeed at anything while at the same time doing lots of damage towards her. The fact that Mariah came to her mother for support during some of her most difficult moments and that she proceeded to call the police on her doesn't sit well with me. Let's say she had a manic episode, let's not pretend the cops are equipped to deal with those situations. One of the most powerful statements from the book (from what we have seen so far) is "even Mariah Carey couldn't compete with a nameless white woman in distress". Such a powerful statement that is so connected to these times where we see white people calling the cops on black people for absolutely nothing. Let's not forget that this book is not just for lambs, this is a way to clear rumours up, to tell her own story and to free herself from all of her bad experiences. I don't see Mariah as a victim but rather as a fighter. The fact that she has gone through so much and still standing and smiling and creating some of her best works "at least according to me and the critics" says a lot. The fact that she didn't speak on her bipolar disorder gives a strong signal to me that she doesn't think it's the essence of her. I'm so excited for this book and we are getting so much promo. This book will definitely heal Mariah's image in many ways, let's have faith and trust in Mariah. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 01:01)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,780) (95,785) by Bill from the UK I admire your willpower Eddie. I'm a spoiler whore though unfortunately and need to have everything immediately lol. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 21:49)

October 2nd (95,784) by Bobby A from United States Besides new album releases from Bon Jovi, Dolly Parton and William Shatner, and YG, MC may be #1 the following week on the Billboard 200. It would be so nice for this to happen. And just an update with STD, it has been in the top 10 on the Billboard Digital R&B chart since its release. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 21:32)

Rarities liner notes (95,783) by Bill from the UK I hope MC includes both the lyrics and a paragraph about each song as she did for #1 to Crapfinity. I'd love to know why these songs didn't make the cut for their corresponding albums and her thoughts behind them. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 21:26)

Re: Oprah interview high quality link (95,771) (95,782) by MusicfanJ from Germany Thanks Chezz. I watched the whole interview. With her "family" it really makes me sad. I do believe it was good for her to write some things. We are her lambily, and we'll always be. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 19:57)

Cool On You (95,781) by Bobby A from United States This song has some incredible vocals. Google "Cool on you" YouTube to listen. We will have so much to talk about next Friday. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 19:11)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,777) (95,780) by Edward from USA Bill is a life ruiner, he ruins people's lives. I haven't listened to any of the snippets. I want it to feel like when I was 3 and the Butterfly album came out. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 18:34)

Re: Oprah interview high quality link (95,771) (95,779) by RibbonB from USA Sad that she had the hardest time saying if she felt worthy of happiness and success, even now. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 17:20)

Mariah's new teaser (95,778) by Bill from the UK So MC's new teaser trailer for the release of The Rarities she's put up on Insta. She's clearly got HD versions of Emotions and Without You from TOTP. I wonder why these haven't been released yet to her YT channel? I love both performanced, especially Emotions as she was genuinely sick (not 1997 onwards sick) but took the whole song down an octave which was amazing. She did an interview with Lorraine Kelly the following day where she could barely even speak. One week what am I going to do? (Saturday 26 September 2020; 16:41)

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