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Johnta Austin (90,643)
by Bobby A from United States
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Johnta Austin's Love, Sex, and Religion is really a great debut. One song in particular is my favorite song. It is called Born Again. It was produced by JD and BMC. And from the moment the beat kicks in, you know JD co-wrote it. It has that JD bounce just like Shake It Off. Check out Johnta on Amazon.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 23:10)
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Love Takes Time on POSE (90,642)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Has anyone been watching POSE? The first season takes place in late 80's and the second season in early 90's. Lots of great music is used throughout the both seasons. So you know as I'm watching I wonder... ok when are they going to use a Mariah track? When I was 19 I'd go to the Bistro II, an urban dance club in Chicago where at the end of the night they'd always play Vision of Love. A slow dance to finish the night. So I thought VOL might be a good fit since it was so embraced by the trans/gay community very early. Love Takes Time was used for the end of the 7th episode in the current season. I'm so happy she let this very important show license her music.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 22:28)
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Re: Glitter (90,633) (90,641)
by Billy from Greece
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This is actually a beautiful song.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 22:22)
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Re: MC's tone (90,639) (90,640)
by Billy from Greece
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Stephen Thomas Erlewine was most likely paid by Tommy to write that scathing review. If you target and undermine the artist's main marketing tool, which in this case was Mariah's voice, what is the artist left with? For whatever Charmbracelet is, that review was beyond biased, especially given the time of its publication. Same goes for his disturbing review of "Glitter". His style of writing speaks arrogant prick.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 22:01)
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Re: MC's tone (90,629) (90,639)
by B from USA
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I never understood why critics said Mariah's voice was shot in their reviews of Charmbracelet. Stephen Thomas Erlewine of AllMusic said that whenever Mariah sang on the album that there was a raspy whistle behind her "thin voice" voice and that she strained to reach notes throughout the record. He went on to say that Mariah's voice was damaged and that there wasn't a moment on the album where it sounded strong or inviting. Yes, Mariah sang the majority of the album in her debated and detested whisper register but she sings like she does on I Only Wanted, My Saving Grace, and at the end of The One she doesn't strain to reach notes, and her voice sounds strong and inviting like being embraced by an old friend.
Her voice was in fine form during the recording of Glitter, and she slayed her live performances during that era. Especially, her performance of the Never Too Far/Hero medley during the At Home For The Holidays With Mariah Carey special.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 20:35)
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Played on the radio (90,638)
by Joachim Agerup Lřkkevik from Norway
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I just wondered which songs of Mariah are usually getting played on the radio in the country you are from?
Here in Norway Mariah is only played on the easy listening stations, and the songs they usually play are Love Takes Time, I'll Be There and Hero. I never hear an urban Mariah song on the radio, but maybe TJ from Norway has.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 18:24)
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Re: Chart manipulation (90,631) (90,637)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I don't know the price from the US market but in Germany all her singles were at regular prices when they were released. The same with the albums, definitely not cheap.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 17:11)
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Re: MC's tone (90,629) (90,636)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Great explanation of the different tones of the albums. I like that Mariah sounds different on all the three mentioned albums.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 17:07)
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Re: MC's tone (90,630) (90,635)
by B from USA
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What is?
(Friday 16 August 2019; 16:46)
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Re: Chart manipulation (90,632) (90,634)
by B from USA
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Likewise. If all of Mariah's singles were being sold for forty-nine cents, she would've broken Elvis' record years before she did and she would've broken The Beatles record.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 16:45)
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Glitter (90,633)
by B from USA
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The song Eric Benét performs in Glitter has finally been made available. Here's an article about it.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 16:35)
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Re: Chart manipulation (90,631) (90,632)
by Norman from USA
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Growing up in LA, I remember always buying singles but I don't remember anything other than Loverboy being discounted. I'm not saying they weren't in other parts of the country, but I always found it odd. I would've bought several copies if they had been.
(Friday 16 August 2019; 10:37)
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Re: Chart manipulation (90,626) (90,631)
by B from USA
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Why would a retailer discount Emotions or Honey? Both were huge hits with massive airplay. The hype surrounding the release of Honey was palpable. Does anyone remember the MTV advent of honey dripping with a voice over asking what does honey sound like?
(Friday 16 August 2019; 04:18)
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Re: MC's tone (90,628) (90,630)
by Hector from Mexico
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It was studio trickery.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 23:46)
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Re: MC's tone (90,625) (90,629)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Basing off of the album vocal performances alone, the vocal production on E=MC2 was much more polished. For TEOM, I remember her and her team wanting a more raw sound, which explains the good amount of live instrumentation and the jazzy, retro, soulful vibe of the album. This was a period that followed Glitter and Charmbracelet, where her voice has been widely reported and criticized to have been "shot", and so everyone was all so determined to prove the voice was still there. They even counted down to and promoted It's Like That using the tagline, "the return of The Voice". E=MC2 was a more relaxed affair, had far less vocally challenging songs as a whole, and the songs were simpler in structure. Much of her singing was pitched at a more comfortable lower range, especially in the verses. As for MOAIA, it was recorded throughout at a time when she reportedly miscarried, so that may have affected her tone. It was released just over a year after its predecessor as well, so she didn't have the luxury of time she had to make TEOM and E=MC2. However, Mariah's tone is notoriously hard to pin down as it really changes quite a bit from one album to the next.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 23:21)
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Re: MC's tone (90,625) (90,628)
by Bobby A from United States
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Why does she sound so much better on Caution? Did the Vegas shows help her? Or was it the weight loss?
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 22:51)
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Re: Subject of Christmas (90,618) (90,627)
by TJ from Norway
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It's really good that the song helped you through the rough time. Hope that you feel better.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 21:32)
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Re: Chart manipulation (90,619) (90,626)
by The Real Deal from USA
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I grew up in NYC. The first single that I brought from her catalog was "Love Takes Time", which was not discounted. I then purchased "Someday" cassette maxi single, which was also priced regularly. The same for "I Don't Wanna Cry". I think "Emotions" may have been discounted, but definitely not "Can't Let Go" and "Make It Happen". All of the Music Box and Daydream singles that I purchased were regular price. In regard to "Honey", it was discounted. However, "My All/Breakdown" was regular price. I honestly don't remember about the Rianbow singles, as I started to buy the cd maxi singles at that point, instead of cassette singles. "Loverboy" was $.49. So in actuality, there were only three discounted singles to my knowledge:
1. Emotions 2. Honey 3. Loverboy
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 19:40)
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Re: MC's tone (90,614) (90,625)
by Edward from USA
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TEOM tour got her voice in shape. You can actually hear the improvement in her voice from TEOM to E=MC2. Some of the critics said she sounded so relaxed and confident. As for Memoirs, she kind of went back to her whisper register and sounded good, but never close to its predecessor.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 19:01)
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Journalist manipulation (90,624)
by Nikki from usa
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I think it's pretty obvious journalism fell by the wayside long ago. It was once mandatory to do research and list facts instead of making up things as you go. But, I've frequently found many of them lying. Even to this day. Honey was a #1 debut. They didn't start her out with a discount. She held her own in airplay. By the end of the 90's, and the emergence of the internet, singles began to rapidly drop off much faster than they used to. So, it became a lot more commonplace for singles to be discounted to make room for new stock. But, that's after they've been out for awhile. Not while they're brand new. That wasn't "Mariah" that was for any artist. So, they're smudging facts there. Yes, record companies will buy back an overflow of unsold material, but that doesn't go through a POS system. They don't pay full price for it, they just make sure the retailers don't come out of pocket. That's another smudged fact by trying to pass it off as if that counts for sales and is unique to Mariah. I have many singles of Honey and none of them sold below $2. MC has some of the most expensive singles. Columnists will tell you her single was discounted to 49 cents. They won't tell you that's after her song fell off the charts and it's leftover stock. They won't tell you she has maxi singles for sale between $10-$13. The sheer fact they omit these facts makes these people's statements invalid.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 18:53)
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Re: Obsessed (90,621) (90,623)
by B from USA
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The Tik Tok Obsessed challenge has increased its spins on Spotify and other streaming sites and YouTube views, and it charted (re-charted) on iTunes (global iTunes?). Some publications have even declared it the Song of the Summer. I love that it's changed how the teenyboppers view Mariah and has piqued their interest in her back catalog.
Here are several articles about the Tik Tok Obsessed challenge. The first article explains the origin of the challenge, the second article is about how it went viral/became a meme, and the third article declares that thanks to the challenge Obsessed became the song of the summer. The links are below in order.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 15:45)
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Re: MC's tone (90,620) (90,622)
by B from USA
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I think her voice sounds better on E=MC2 than on MOAIA.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 15:33)
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Obsessed (90,621)
by ksquarred from paris
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Does anyone know if the new found interest for Obsessed because of the Tik Tok challenge has had a concrete impact somewhere? Charts or YouTube views? Anyhow I think that's great that teenagers bop to a Mariah song and I hope it'll help draw their attention to her next releases.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 15:03)
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Re: MC's tone (90,614) (90,620)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I always felt like she sounds better on MOAIA than on E=MC2. That TAOM tour did a little damage and you can hear it in the quality of her voice on E=MC2.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 14:24)
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Re: Chart manipulation (90,616) (90,619)
by B from USA
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Loverboy was also the only single of Mariah's that J bought that was discounted. My local record store sold her single for twice as much as singles from other artists and when I asked the owner why he said he did so because her fans will pay. The My All/Breakdown single was priced as basically two single and the My All maxi single was grossly overpriced.
Exactly. A small chain of record stores discounted Loverboy (some even gave it away for free) to make room for new releases, but when it was first released it was the same price as every other single in the store.
The author of that article is a diehard Beatles fan and takes every opportunity to regurgitate this nonsense. Roger Friedman from Showbiz411 started this mess when Loverboy was discounted. He wrote an article in which he claimed all 15 of her #1's had been discounted. Like he wrote that article right after Mariah's NYE debacle. Pathetic.
(Thursday 15 August 2019; 14:20)
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