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Re: The "wedding" (85,179) (85,183) by RibbonB from USA The whole thing seemed like a shakedown of a mentally ill billionaire gone wrong. But Mimi rewrites the narrative, writes a few "bops" and people fall for the new narrative. Packers authorized biography looks to be a juicy one. (Monday 22 October 2018; 15:41)

Re: Too many bubbles for my taste (85,180) (85,182) by T from USA Until we hear the official second single. The one that will ultimately sell the album, then I will make my decision on this era. I get why the first single was chosen. It will help her small theater/casino tour. It will grow on an radio format that caters to an older casino crowd. It is the introduction she needed in this era. A banger that targets the Beliebers would be good if that was the tour/era she was going for but it's not. Well, we will know for sure once we hear the second single. GTFO and The Distance are just album tracks that she gave away to give a little taste. By the way has anyone heard the With You live this weekend? (Monday 22 October 2018; 15:37)

Re: Too many bubbles for my taste (85,180) (85,181) by Lafa from Sweden Sorry, you do have a point but have you ever created music yourself? Mariah's music does have good productions to me. She has vocal nodules. Play on a broken guitar and you'll see what I mean. (Monday 22 October 2018; 14:54)

Too many bubbles for my taste (85,180) by Kevyn from Germany Mariah seems to be not the only one living in a bubble. It's kinda cute that some people really think "The Distance" has a hit potential while most of us deep down know it has not. This song is a pretty boring filler - nothing more and nothing less. It's almost insulting to Mariah to call this a "classic, contemporary Mariah Carey song", while this song sounds so 2008 and like a leftover from last decade. Sometimes I truly can't believe that Mariah wrote songs like "Hero", "Butterfly" or "My all" and now writes songs like "GTFO" or "The Distance". Seems like two completley different artists to me. Her concerts are also pretty boring, she is singing the same songs over and over again and I really don't want to see half naked men dancing circles around her. Sorry. Mariah has changed and that's perfectly fine to me. But I refuse to support an elderly woman cursing in her songs and delivering poor quality to her listeners. I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one. (Monday 22 October 2018; 14:29)

The "wedding" (85,179) by Matt from Australia Interesting article. Mariah is referenced towards the end. Kerry Stokes is a very respected figure in Australian business life. Oodles of credibility. Surely one can assume the agent is Stella. The apparent pressure to go ahead with the wedding and discussing it like a business deal about to flop is a little icky. (Monday 22 October 2018; 14:00)

Re: Big news (85,171) (85,178) by Atwood from NY I wish it was but the Beacon is booked up until January. (Monday 22 October 2018; 12:38)

Big announcement day (85,177) by Sheila from United States I think it's either a new video or the Beacon shows. (Monday 22 October 2018; 11:40)

Caution / news (85,176) by Ethan from United States I've been listening to MIAMTEC to get all hyped up for Caution. It is interesting to listen to the entire album since a while. I have to say it's a solid piece of work. It was unfortunately that it was delayed so many times within a year plus apart. I'd only hope she could have taken Thirsty, Camouflage, One More Try (as a bonus track), and Money out. Then it'd be a coherently produced album. I can't wait for the big news announcement. Maybe I was right about the Caution tour (better be like Charmbracelet with a well thought concept). Perhaps a double album (duet/featured artist)? Singing America The Beautiful at the Super Bowl? (Monday 22 October 2018; 07:38)

Re: I'm in heaven (85,165) (85,175) by 123 from USA I'm pleasantly surprised by her deciding to do a contemporary pop record. She's always stayed r&b once she got artistic freedom other than Almost Home (which did nothing for me). I actually like that she is trying new sounds and co writers. There is a lot of moving parts to this song even though the beat is spare yet it all works. The simplistic hook (very non Mariah the hook queen) actually works here where the same approach on With You's hook left me underwhelmed. I like that she is strategically releasing multiple songs from the album with only one being an actual single. It brings light to songs that would have never got the light of day like any others on previous albums. I hope it gets a video, even if it's just beauty shots as long as it's well done like the last two videos. Her albums are the type where a video for every song and a innovate way to release them to the public as their own events helps bring interest to the album. (Monday 22 October 2018; 05:37)

Re: Heartbreaker (85,145) (85,174) by 123 from USA So she's bashed when she lip syncs because she should just sing live and adjust the song to her current vocals and the moment the not only pulls back on the pre record and actually attempts the original notes she's bashed for sounding strained. Then again, any of her failures or ability to meet peoples expectations is just fodder for people to troll and make visceral statements for likes. (Monday 22 October 2018; 05:07)

Re: Big news (85,169) (85,173) by Shezz from Pk Has to be a tour. What else is there left to announce? It feels like she has been touring a lot already so this really won't be news per se. (Monday 22 October 2018; 04:26)

The Distance (85,172) by B from USA The Distance is everything I've been begging for and I love it. Re: New sound (67,220) by B from USA (Thursday 13 October 2016; 1:35). I hope she works with Calvin Harris or Skillarex. I want to hear her sing over a current beat. I imagine it would sound like an updated version of her collaborations with C+C Music Factory and David Morales. I wish she'd remix Meterotie with resung vocals with Morales and release it to tide us over until the new album or single is released. Or the unreleased #Beautiful remix. She likes the work they did on Butterfly. I'd argue she also likes their work on Emotions and Daydream as well. (Monday 22 October 2018; 03:48)

Re: Big news (85,169) (85,171) by Timothy from USA It might just be the announcement of this year's Beacon shows. We'll have to wait and see. (Monday 22 October 2018; 03:33)

Asian shows (85,170) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Like someone else has mentioned here before, maybe it's the humidity in Asia, but Mariah almost always sounds her best when she's touring in the Orient. I mean a lot of it is still strained and shouty, but at least her tone is not nearly as dry and grating as it was during her Vegas shows, probably due to the drier, harsher weather in there. Her transitions are now smoother, her falsetto richer and her overall tone much more pleasant. Or who knows, it may also be the upcoming holidays or album release that got her excited to push harder and even attempt notes we have come to expect her to avoid over the years, especially on Emotions, Always Be My Baby, Make It Happen, My All, etc. Plus she sings the verses of With You in full voice you guys, and it's actually a good performance which makes you even madder that she had to lip the entire thing at the AMAs. Check out her videos in Taipei and Macau. And it's nice to know the fandom is still quite strong on social media and media sharing sites. I don't know of any artist whose every live performance is documented by a vocal highlights video reliably within a few days (hours, even). Really appreciate them lambs who do it all out of love. (Monday 22 October 2018; 01:33)

Re: Big news (85,167) (85,169) by Atwood from NY I am hoping for a Caution tour, small venues, no more Vegas lol. (Monday 22 October 2018; 00:13)

Re: Big news (85,167) (85,168) by Andrew from UK A bit like Britney's announcement of an announcement. The element of surprise I'd all buy lost on PR people. Beyonce got it. One of the few. (Monday 22 October 2018; 00:02)

Big news (85,167) by Special K from USA Mariah just posted on Twitter that there will be big news announced tomorrow. Oh boy. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 18:37)

Re: The Distance (85,154) (85,166) by Special K from USA I am hooked on The Distance. I think we need rehab. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 17:06)

I'm in heaven (85,165) by Special K from USA I was able to finally listen to The Distance. Wow, I am on cloud nine right now. I can't express how much I love this song. Now, this is the classic, contemporary Mariah Carey song I have been waiting for. I can't get enough. I am so happy that Ty Dolla $ign is on this song. He is perfect. I get it. Now I get the strategy of releasing GFTO, With You, and The Distance in that sequence. Ok. Well cheers to Mariah and her team for doing something creative and different. I am now officially hyped to buy this album. They really need to push The Distance. That song has the potential to be a huge hit. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 17:05)

Re: Realize (85,155) (85,164) by Tijl from Belgium It seems the current Mariah only wants to create the music she feels and enjoys herself. That is okay. There is nothing left to prove. She started out as a rather MOR and highly commercialized artist evolving into an artist on her own terms. Kate Bush has been doing this ever since her career started by staying true to herself and writing exactly and only what she connects with. If this is the way Mariah wants to continue than that is okay. With or without spectacular chart numbers if not any new #1 hit songs. Her latest work feels very close to where she is now in her live. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 15:44)

Re: The Distance (85,160) (85,163) by Timothy from USA Qhm, I am so glad you said that because from reading so many of the critiques over the last couple days a lot of the group was pointing out their dislike for the chant as if they don’t listen to popular music anymore to know that the random audio file is standard and almost required now. I think that the producer probably wanted to do something even more random and she steered it to something she thought her fans would be more familiar with because of the last time she did it in UOMF. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 15:03)

Re: Updating the stats (85,159) (85,162) by Timothy from USA You know, I saw those new stats in that post and I think that they are intentionally ambiguous. As someone who reads Billboard, I like to think that stats never catch me off guard but that one... It almost seems like they are defining a unit as a individual track or they are counting all individual merchandise sales from various eras and licensed products. Either way, for a decade now, her, Madonna, Celine and MJ's estate have all tried various ways to outdo one another in stats through sometimes sketchy calculations. I just don't think this is the right way to go when so much is going right to start this era and part of the reason Mariah became so unrelatable to the general public was because of all of those sales montages before "less than ideal" performances. People need a reason to root for you and the average person is not going to take their hard earned money to keep you on a perceived mountain top. I hope Roc Nation has her play the underdog more as that is what people like to get behind now. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 14:55)

Re: Realize (85,150) (85,161) by Timothy from USA This was very well said. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 14:36)

The Distance (85,160) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It is trendy these days to incorporate the most random and weirdest samples for no particular reason in any production, if only to up its quirk factor. However, despite its ubiquity, it is still considered a risk as the results way elicit reactions that vary from sheer genius to indifference to bewilderment to irritation and even rage. The chanting that kicks off the song comes off puzzling at first, but as it ends with the same sample you'll realize that the chant actually flows with the beat of the whole thing. For most, that won't be enough to justify its usage, but at least it somehow makes sense. As for the beat, it's one of the best we've had on a Mariah track in a very long time. It truly knocks. Coupled with the atmospheric synth backdrop and you have a very cool groove, which is rare in the Mariah-verse, where most textures are plush, velvety and warm. The Distance also features the best input from a collaborator since Miguel. Just like Rihanna and Britney, Mariah has a way of enunciating certain words to add some flair and personality and gets away with it. Her "laughs" and "life" in the chorus pique interest. Overall it's a good track that recalls the urban excellence of the Thank God I Found You remix. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 14:23)

Updating the stats (85,159) by Will from England Well done to the new team for getting on this and finally updating her numbers. 1.6 Billion unit sales in Asia Pacific? Looking forward to hearing the rest of the updates. (Sunday 21 October 2018; 13:45)

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