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Perfection (103,164) by Edward from USA This is the best AI Mariah's voice cover so far. It helps that it is sung in her style. Just made my own Mp3 just in case they take it down. It's simply amazing. We need The Rarities 2 right now. (Friday 11 August 2023; 22:14) this is a reply to message 103,163

Perfection (103,163) by Terna from Nigeria Butterfly 25th needed this version. (Friday 11 August 2023; 21:03)

Perfection (103,163) by Terna from Nigeria Butterfly 25th needed this version. (Friday 11 August 2023; 21:03)

Firecracker Loverboy (103,162) by Andrew from the UK It would be truly amazing if someone could overlay the Loverboy video with the Loverboy Firecracker track. (Friday 11 August 2023; 16:13) this is a reply to message 103,139

Loverboy (103,139) by Billy from Greece So, I was thinking about "Loverboy" this morning and watched a video combining the original visuals with the Firecracker version. When "The Rarities" was released in 2020 and I listened to the original (Firecracker) version for the first time I was ecstatic and I was immediately filled with a "coulda woulda shoulda" feeling of what this song could have become, not to mention the lost potential of the "Glitter" soundtrack or even the trajectory of Mariah's career thereafter. It screams smash hit. In a way, the skeleton of the song, namely the track, the key in which it is written, the way the vocals pop in the chorus, brought to my mind the "Heartbreaker (Remix)", which she has often referred to as her favorite version. It is just impeccably catchy and the fact that they ripped her off and sabotaged her so badly just shows that Mariah's musical instincts were so on point that everybody was paying attention. She was at the top of her game creatively. Anyway, as far as the "Candy" version is concerned, I was similarly obsessed with when it came out in 2001. I remember hearing the remix on the radio for the first time on a hot day in June while waiting in my mother's car. While the rap intro was going on I was like, wait, these sighs and "oohs" in the background sound familiar and then I was in shock. Is this the new single? Remember back then, it was usually by accident that you came across a new release. I couldn't wait to hear it again. Although it was chaotic in a way, I mostly associated exuberance, fun and sexiness with the song, which was then enhanced by the saturated colorful visuals. Even the single cover is gorgeous and a total classic in my opinion. I can understand why the song did not have a mass appeal in the form that it was eventually released, although it remains a favorite of mine. Technically speaking, the key in which "Loverboy" was rewritten buried the chorus and made all parts sound a bit cluttered. Actually, Cameo's "Candy" has quite an unconventional beat, which makes it a difficult sample in my opinion, although it's been widely used. Still, whatever the circumstances, I love "Loverboy" in all its forms and still enjoy it to the max. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 11:47)

First Vision (103,161) by Jamie from UK Hahaha. (Friday 11 August 2023; 09:51) this is a reply to message 103,160

First Vision (103,160) by Edward from USA What is a DVD? (Thursday 10 August 2023; 14:17)

First Vision (103,160) by Edward from USA What is a DVD? (Thursday 10 August 2023; 14:17) this is a reply to message 103,159

First Vision (103,159) by Jamie from UK Amazing thought. But I doubt it as not sure music DVD's would sell enough to make them. (Thursday 10 August 2023; 12:29)

First Vision (103,159) by Jamie from UK Amazing thought. But I doubt it as not sure music DVD's would sell enough to make them. (Thursday 10 August 2023; 12:29) this is a reply to message 103,156

First Vision (103,156) by Bobby A from United States I just realized today that First Vision was never released on DVD in the U.S. I wonder if it will ever be released with some extra live tracks or an extended Patricia and daughter moment. Also, whenever Sony Legacy chooses the time to break our wallets with boxsets and previously unreleased, it is great time for Lambs. Can you imagine all of the early 90s demo songs all on one CD? (Thursday 10 August 2023; 03:27)

Today Whitney would've been 60 (103,158) by Stacey from USA Like her or hate her. There is no denying her talent. Wow. I hope she finds her peace in the hereafter that she never found on earth. Everyone deserves that. (Thursday 10 August 2023; 04:03) this is a reply to message 103,154

Today Whitney would've been 60 (103,154) by Randy from USA I know everybody on this board has a different relationship with Whitney Houston. Some love her, some hate her. Pushing that aside, she was a human being first. A mother, a daughter, a sister. She truly was one of the best singers of all time who just couldn't get it together because of some dark secrets she felt pressured to keep. I don't care what anyone thinks, I really feel like she and MC liked each other. And I miss her. (Wednesday 9 August 2023; 13:45)

Tommy or no career at all (103,157) by Bobby A from United States Edward, I like to keep the board laughing sometimes. It so boring in MC's world right now. She has taken this sabbatical and didn't tell us. (Thursday 10 August 2023; 03:30) this is a reply to message 103,149

Tommy or no career at all (103,149) by Edward from USA I love your sarcasm. (Tuesday 8 August 2023; 05:42)

First Vision (103,156) by Bobby A from United States I just realized today that First Vision was never released on DVD in the U.S. I wonder if it will ever be released with some extra live tracks or an extended Patricia and daughter moment. Also, whenever Sony Legacy chooses the time to break our wallets with boxsets and previously unreleased, it is great time for Lambs. Can you imagine all of the early 90s demo songs all on one CD? (Thursday 10 August 2023; 03:27)

Today Whitney would've been 60 (103,155) by MusicfanJ from Germany I do believe they liked each other. They had some things in common for sure. I miss Whitney, I grew up with her music. What a voice. Just like with Michael Jackson. The good 90ies, I really miss them so badly. I just bought today a 90ies compilation, because I love the music from that time and have so many good memories from that decade. Even songs which were not so great, are fantastic compared to today's music. We had Rock, RnB, Pop, Soul, Hip-Hop and more genres, there was something for everyone. Real artists and musicians. But back to Whitney, I really wish she would be alive, happy and still making music. So sad. (Wednesday 9 August 2023; 19:49) this is a reply to message 103,154

Today Whitney would've been 60 (103,154) by Randy from USA I know everybody on this board has a different relationship with Whitney Houston. Some love her, some hate her. Pushing that aside, she was a human being first. A mother, a daughter, a sister. She truly was one of the best singers of all time who just couldn't get it together because of some dark secrets she felt pressured to keep. I don't care what anyone thinks, I really feel like she and MC liked each other. And I miss her. (Wednesday 9 August 2023; 13:45)

Today Whitney would've been 60 (103,154) by Randy from USA I know everybody on this board has a different relationship with Whitney Houston. Some love her, some hate her. Pushing that aside, she was a human being first. A mother, a daughter, a sister. She truly was one of the best singers of all time who just couldn't get it together because of some dark secrets she felt pressured to keep. I don't care what anyone thinks, I really feel like she and MC liked each other. And I miss her. (Wednesday 9 August 2023; 13:45)

Tommy or no career at all (103,153) by Stacey from USA There are some good songs off Rainbow. But it is quite obvious she rushed that album to get out of her deal with Columbia. The album is a mess. (Wednesday 9 August 2023; 04:50) this is a reply to message 103,151

Tommy or no career at all (103,151) by Bobby A from United States MC never worked with Master P again after that mishap in the studio. Something is just off with her vocals and lyrics. I cringe every time I hear it. I am glad Clown came along on Charmbracelet to remind us what she is capable of when she is focused and works with one of the best and my favorite production duo Dre and Vidal. (Tuesday 8 August 2023; 17:43)

Tommy or no career at all (103,152) by Randy from USA I'm with you. I like Did I Do That? I just hate that Rainbow, which is a great album, just seems like she was trying to work with everybody popular on one project, ie Jay-Z, Diane Warren, Kandi & Tiny, Missy, Snoop, 98 Degrees, Usher and No Limit. (Wednesday 9 August 2023; 03:43) this is a reply to message 103,150

Tommy or no career at all (103,150) by Tevin from USA Justice for "Did I do that". (Tuesday 8 August 2023; 16:18)

Tommy or no career at all (103,151) by Bobby A from United States MC never worked with Master P again after that mishap in the studio. Something is just off with her vocals and lyrics. I cringe every time I hear it. I am glad Clown came along on Charmbracelet to remind us what she is capable of when she is focused and works with one of the best and my favorite production duo Dre and Vidal. (Tuesday 8 August 2023; 17:43) this is a reply to message 103,150

Tommy or no career at all (103,150) by Tevin from USA Justice for "Did I do that". (Tuesday 8 August 2023; 16:18)

Tommy or no career at all (103,150) by Tevin from USA Justice for "Did I do that". (Tuesday 8 August 2023; 16:18) this is a reply to message 103,146

Tommy or no career at all (103,146) by Bill from the UK Having applied some further thought to this, we'd also live in a world without Crapfinity, Did I Do That, Boy, and Infamous. So I guess it would all balance out. (Monday 7 August 2023; 19:49)

Tommy or no career at all (103,149) by Edward from USA I love your sarcasm. (Tuesday 8 August 2023; 05:42) this is a reply to message 103,148

Tommy or no career at all (103,148) by Bobby A from United States Hey Biil, that's my favorite song with MC, JB, and TI. (Monday 7 August 2023; 22:25)

Tommy or no career at all (103,148) by Bobby A from United States Hey Biil, that's my favorite song with MC, JB, and TI. (Monday 7 August 2023; 22:25) this is a reply to message 103,147

Tommy or no career at all (103,147) by Bill from the UK Oh and Why You Mad. How could I forget that monstrosity? (Monday 7 August 2023; 20:35)

Tommy or no career at all (103,147) by Bill from the UK Oh and Why You Mad. How could I forget that monstrosity? (Monday 7 August 2023; 20:35) this is a reply to message 103,146

Tommy or no career at all (103,146) by Bill from the UK Having applied some further thought to this, we'd also live in a world without Crapfinity, Did I Do That, Boy, and Infamous. So I guess it would all balance out. (Monday 7 August 2023; 19:49)

Tommy or no career at all (103,146) by Bill from the UK Having applied some further thought to this, we'd also live in a world without Crapfinity, Did I Do That, Boy, and Infamous. So I guess it would all balance out. (Monday 7 August 2023; 19:49) this is a reply to message 103,138

Tommy or no career at all (103,138) by Bill from the UK I think the Mariah we got in those early days would have been different. Warners were interested in her at the same point, but didn't want her to write her own material. It was Tommy allowing her to continue as a songwriter that swayed it. To think we could be living in a world without Vision of Love, Vanishing, Till the End of Time, All I Want for Christmas Is You. Scary. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 11:37)

Tommy or no career at all (103,145) by JC from USA Labels will often establish their own variation of what's working/hot. Think the big Latin wave, boy bands, pop princesses, girl groups. Divas are not excluded. And I would agree Mariah shared more similarities with Whitney at the very start, but they quickly veered away from her richer/darker tones in her voice for more airy and bubbly. Mariah would've had a career without Tommy, but you have to give him credit. He knew (and ran) the business for decades before her and was masterful (yet controlling) and everything was calculated and perfect up until Mariah took the reigns. (Monday 7 August 2023; 13:31) this is a reply to message 103,142

Tommy or no career at all (103,142) by Lady B from USA To the contrary, it is well documented that there was a bidding war for her first deal. That's why she had enough leverage to own her masters. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 21:35)

Loverboy (103,144) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia In my opinion, the people at Virgin should have released the original Loverboy Firecracker version. This version is much more radio friendly with Mariah's full vocals during the chorus. Just similar to her others' uptempo leading singles; Dreamlover, Fantasy, and Heartbreaker. So be it, if the other entertainer sampled the same song. Mariah and Virgin should have focused on the marketing and promotion to boost the song to the masses. Mariah made several public tv apearances in June/July 2001 but zero singing. Then how the people are going to like the song? Back then in 2001, tv live performances made a big impact on an artiste unlike now. Instead of participating with a game on TRL in finding her loverboy (June episode) and giving out ice cream to the audience (July episode) she can focus on singing Loverboy live or even singing Never Too Far. (Monday 7 August 2023; 07:02) this is a reply to message 103,141

Loverboy (103,141) by Bobby A from United States The Loverboy debacle was probably the catalyst in MC's decline in popularity. First, who was the Virgin AR executive who pitched the idea to the promotional team to sell the single for 49 cents at retailers. The number one female artist at the time and you have to sell her lead album single for 49 cents to ensure a hit on the Hot 100 because radio airplay was weak. Second, the remix was disorganized with all of the special guests who overpowered MC's own remix. I remember back then thinking that there is too much going on the remix. Third, it was MC's first album lead single to not make it to #1. Finally, the Candy sample just did not hit hard enough as a sample for a lead single. After a couple of listens, you get bored with the heavy beat. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 16:29)

Head Over Heels (103,143) by Bill from the UK A great AI Mariah singing "Head Over Heels" by Allure. I'd love to hear Mariah's original demo but this is a good representation of what it may have sounded like. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 22:46)

Tommy or no career at all (103,142) by Lady B from USA To the contrary, it is well documented that there was a bidding war for her first deal. That's why she had enough leverage to own her masters. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 21:35) this is a reply to message 103,137

Tommy or no career at all (103,137) by Bobby A from United States I often wonder why did it take Tommy to discover MC. She had this beautiful voice in high school and the help of her brother Morgan after high school. Could it be that if Tommy had never been handed her demo tape, that we probably would have never had a Mariah Carey? The world didn't need another Whitney Houston or Aretha Franklin? MC sounded and emulated the both of them at the beginning of her career. It wasn't until her voice started to change in 1997 that we got a very different sounding Mariah and her musical style evolved into what it is today. I think Potrait gave us the full circle Mariah Carey who looked back at her career in a song. Just me thinking that God is not done with MC yet. This woman has bounced back so many times and caught the world's attention again. (Saturday 5 August 2023; 20:54)

Loverboy (103,141) by Bobby A from United States The Loverboy debacle was probably the catalyst in MC's decline in popularity. First, who was the Virgin AR executive who pitched the idea to the promotional team to sell the single for 49 cents at retailers. The number one female artist at the time and you have to sell her lead album single for 49 cents to ensure a hit on the Hot 100 because radio airplay was weak. Second, the remix was disorganized with all of the special guests who overpowered MC's own remix. I remember back then thinking that there is too much going on the remix. Third, it was MC's first album lead single to not make it to #1. Finally, the Candy sample just did not hit hard enough as a sample for a lead single. After a couple of listens, you get bored with the heavy beat. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 16:29) this is a reply to message 103,140

Loverboy (103,140) by BFF from United States I think the released version with the "Candy" sample can best be described as an "interesting mess". Critics were right to call it subpar in comparison to Mariah's previous output. The video was fun, but the low quality of the released version definitely contributed to the underperformance of the "Glitter" soundtrack. The "Firecracker" version is vastly better than the released version. I personally think Mariah could have gotten away with releasing it even with Jennifer Lopez using "Firecracker" for "I'm Real". The original version of "I'm Real" ended up underperforming any way, and that song did not become a hit until it was remixed with Ja Rule. Mariah still needs to put out remix EPs for the Glitter album singles on streaming. Does anyone know if she's planning some type of "Glitter" anniversary release? (Sunday 6 August 2023; 14:21)

Loverboy (103,140) by BFF from United States I think the released version with the "Candy" sample can best be described as an "interesting mess". Critics were right to call it subpar in comparison to Mariah's previous output. The video was fun, but the low quality of the released version definitely contributed to the underperformance of the "Glitter" soundtrack. The "Firecracker" version is vastly better than the released version. I personally think Mariah could have gotten away with releasing it even with Jennifer Lopez using "Firecracker" for "I'm Real". The original version of "I'm Real" ended up underperforming any way, and that song did not become a hit until it was remixed with Ja Rule. Mariah still needs to put out remix EPs for the Glitter album singles on streaming. Does anyone know if she's planning some type of "Glitter" anniversary release? (Sunday 6 August 2023; 14:21) this is a reply to message 103,139

Loverboy (103,139) by Billy from Greece So, I was thinking about "Loverboy" this morning and watched a video combining the original visuals with the Firecracker version. When "The Rarities" was released in 2020 and I listened to the original (Firecracker) version for the first time I was ecstatic and I was immediately filled with a "coulda woulda shoulda" feeling of what this song could have become, not to mention the lost potential of the "Glitter" soundtrack or even the trajectory of Mariah's career thereafter. It screams smash hit. In a way, the skeleton of the song, namely the track, the key in which it is written, the way the vocals pop in the chorus, brought to my mind the "Heartbreaker (Remix)", which she has often referred to as her favorite version. It is just impeccably catchy and the fact that they ripped her off and sabotaged her so badly just shows that Mariah's musical instincts were so on point that everybody was paying attention. She was at the top of her game creatively. Anyway, as far as the "Candy" version is concerned, I was similarly obsessed with when it came out in 2001. I remember hearing the remix on the radio for the first time on a hot day in June while waiting in my mother's car. While the rap intro was going on I was like, wait, these sighs and "oohs" in the background sound familiar and then I was in shock. Is this the new single? Remember back then, it was usually by accident that you came across a new release. I couldn't wait to hear it again. Although it was chaotic in a way, I mostly associated exuberance, fun and sexiness with the song, which was then enhanced by the saturated colorful visuals. Even the single cover is gorgeous and a total classic in my opinion. I can understand why the song did not have a mass appeal in the form that it was eventually released, although it remains a favorite of mine. Technically speaking, the key in which "Loverboy" was rewritten buried the chorus and made all parts sound a bit cluttered. Actually, Cameo's "Candy" has quite an unconventional beat, which makes it a difficult sample in my opinion, although it's been widely used. Still, whatever the circumstances, I love "Loverboy" in all its forms and still enjoy it to the max. (Sunday 6 August 2023; 11:47)

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