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Who is she kidding? (102,879) by Nick G from Germany

Well I was there and what can I say? I quote my good friend Clarissa: Mariah was the best drag queen of the day. the movements, the attitudes and she sang like a drunk tourist in a karaoke bar. it was funny and sad at the same time.
(Tuesday 13 June 2023; 17:30)


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Who is she kidding? (102,878) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago

Terna I fully agree.

But let's forget about the voice for a moment. What impressed me the most and made me the happiest was seeing how comfortable she was on stage. Moving around, no awkward poses and stiff boring performances. This was the best I've seen her work a stage since Madison Square Garden in 1996. I know it's a bold statement but she seemed so at ease with whatever she was doing. And for me, after literal decades of bland and/or purely vocal performances she was a true performer again.
(Tuesday 13 June 2023; 00:40)


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Who is she kidding? (102,877) by Edward from USA

Why keep beating a dead horse in the mouth? She looked stunning. Here hoping for a great Christmas return.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 23:17)


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Who is she kidding? (102,876) by Terna from Nigeria

I beg to differ, fluidity is back, well not completely but it's much better than a year ago, her tone is warm again like there's substance there not that dry nasal sound, that annoying scratch anytime she was trying to belt is gone, resonance in her upper belts have reappeared. I hear a recovering voice and she's not trying to overdo it - she knows her voice is in repair mode. (Do you think Mariah doesn't know her voice?) This was one of the biggest complaints Whitney Houston's voice coach had that he spoke about during the aftermath of her demise. He said Whitney's voice was so resilient and repaired very quickly but at the slightest semblance of function she would relax, do shows and then it was back to square one. I get that sense Mariah has read all our posts and finally got round to seeking professional help. It's evident in her sound from the Pride concert. She sounds like '98 again minus a few bumps here and there.

(Monday 12 June 2023; 23:13)


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Who is she kidding? (102,875) by Bobby A from United States

Is that why the board has been so quiet about her performance? Have you noticed that her hand doesn't go up in air like her early 90's and 2000's performances? It stays very close to her waist now like to say that she is not feeling like she will be able to execute her notes successfully.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 22:30)


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Rainbow Interlude live (102,874) by Billy from Greece

I think she was saying "we might never reach the rainbow's end, but we're trying", something like that, basically improvising on the lyrics of Rainbow.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 22:25)


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Who is she kidding? (102,873) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway

She can't sing a note anymore.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 20:53)

Rainbow Interlude live (102,872) by Brad from USA

I was wondering about a line she sang during this interlude after she sang "I'm trying", she then sings a line "We might never..." I can't make out the full text of that line. Does anyone know what she is singing at that point? Thanks.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 19:28)


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Rainbow Interlude live (102,871) by Billy from Greece

I so love this. Excellent development of the Rainbow interlude. I first thought it was a sample of an old song but kudos for this new dance mix.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 15:28)

Pride performance (102,870) by Lady B from USA

I don't miss out on an opportunity to see Mariah live and happened to be in LA for her Pride performance. I'm here to tell you, the best part was the energy that both the crowd and she gave each other. It was truly a celebratory moment and she did so many versions of songs I had not heard before. Most of all, she and the crowd both seemed to be having the time of their lives. Didn't hurt that she looked amazing and her dancers certainly played up to the audience. Good vibes all around.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 05:50)

The measure of wealth (102,869) by Andrew from the UK

"Mariah Carey" is not measurable by currency. There are no figures that do her justice. Not even Billboard chart placings. She is not measurable. "Mariah Carey" is an idea.

It is not that every song was a smash (kinda was), it isn't that every song hit a stratospheric note (kinda did), it isn't that every photo captured beauty (falling in love with the Rainbow photography again).

Mariah Carey is the idea that at some point, dependent upon your vantage point, all 3 things collided. Everything collided. She wasn't an artist in a league with other artists. She was weirdly big.

"You ain't gon' believe dis." All the money in my pocket vs all the money in yours. Mariah Carey's name will be known throughout the ages whilst Beyoncé's fades to a dim, distant memory. I'd bet the farm. Be safe and be well, all.
(Monday 12 June 2023; 04:12)

Hopes for Mariah’s Pride performance (102,868) by Bobby A from United States

The videos on the web are promising. She sounded better during the Pride performance than the Lovers and Friends performance. I love the Rainbow interlude dance remix with new lyrics. I am just wondering if the hold up for new music has nothing to do with vocal issues, but rather not having a record label.
(Sunday 11 June 2023; 08:06)


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The BET Award nominations 2023 are finally here (102,867) by TJ from Norway

What happened to Celine?

(Saturday 10 June 2023; 08:21)


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The Weekend collaboration (102,866) by Bobby A from United States

I was going to post about the song yesterday, but got busy headed to the airport. It's called Popular and it is a hot summer song. It also features Playboi Cardi. I like the way Madonna swoops in for her verse like she has been singing R&B all of her life. The beat is something that The Weekend has never done before.
(Friday 9 June 2023; 18:35)


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Hopes for Mariah’s Pride performance (102,865) by Brandon from USA

What are you guys hoping to see during Mariah's upcoming performance? I want to see a completely revamped set list with her performing a lot of her remixes. I don't want to see any long sequined gowns but more body suits, jump suits and short flirty dresses. I also want to see a confident, well rehearsed Mariah owning the stage. I do not want to see her in tight corsets or super tall heels that restricts her movement or singing. I don't want a bunch of lip syncing with an occasional "Aye" shout nor for her to look as though she's lost on stage and doesn't know where to go. I want her to properly warm up that golden voice and tear the house down like we know she can.
(Friday 9 June 2023; 18:20)


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The Weekend collaboration (102,864) by Brandon from USA

The Weekend just released a song with Madonna and she's way past her prime so he obviously doesn't have a problem working with legacy artists. For some reason, he just wasn't interested in working with Mariah specifically.
(Friday 9 June 2023; 18:09)


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The BET Award nominations 2023 are finally here (102,863) by Edward from USA

It's sad we just have so few artists from the 90's still standing. Mariah definitely deserves her flowers. She not only paved the way for many, but her contribution to music has been significant. I think her diva persona has prevented some from taking her seriously though, but respect where respect is due. And yes, Latto treated Mariah with the respect and admiration that she so well deserves.
(Friday 9 June 2023; 15:33)


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The BET Award nominations 2023 are finally here (102,862) by Randy from USA

When I saw this article I had to go back and watch MC's performance with Latto. It was so sweet to see Latto give props and flowers to MC. The industry is really starting to piss me off between the Grammys and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. No MC can't win everything but give her her flowers. Before they died, I feel like Whitney, Luther, MJ and Prince were given proper tributes and accolades. Now that Celine is sick, does that mean they'll give her a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction and MC will be overlooked yet again? All we have left from our era is MC, Janet and Madonna. Give MC her flowers.
(Friday 9 June 2023; 15:01)

Article: The BET Award nominations 2023 are finally here (102,861) by Edward from USA

Are you talking about that new pop singer called Facebookah?
(Friday 9 June 2023; 14:39)


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Article: The BET Award nominations 2023 are finally here (102,860) by Billy from Greece

What in the ham san is going on with the names of this generation's artists?

(Friday 9 June 2023; 08:38)

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,859) by Bobby A from United States

We will probably never see artists like MC, Madonna, Rihanna, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, and Celine Dion 20 years from now with such popularity and wealth.
(Friday 9 June 2023; 01:48)


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The Weekend collaboration (102,858) by whisperingmisunderstandings from USA

There was a moment in time where she was pushing that, even posting that IG story of her singing along at one of his concerts. I got the feeling that he wasn't interested, maybe thought it was beneath him to be collaborating with a "legacy" artist when he's in the prime of his career, and she felt dissed and stopped acknowledging him. Recently there was an awkward moment during one of her Twitter spaces and where she asked the fans who she should collaborate with, someone clearly said "The Weeknd" and she pretended she didn't hear and changed the subject lol. I don't see that ever happening, maybe in a few years when his career is on the decline.
(Thursday 8 June 2023; 23:09)


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Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,857) by Bill from the UK

I think my point is more around being objective and holding the mirror up. Mariah's success in those other markets is mirrored or bettered by the others on the list, let's not forget that.

Many of the females on the list claim to be the best selling lol.

I agree Madonna isn't looking her best lately, but hey, who is? I mean I'm not even a fan of hers but I recognise she was a trailblazer and a lot of her songs will forever be part of pop culture. I know she doesn't like Mariah and Mariah doesn't like her, but that doesn't mean her accomplishments should be ignored. She's as bone fide a songwriter as Mariah is, perhaps more so?

What irks me is the refusal, by some, to believe that anyone could possibly be better than Mariah at anything at all, ever. Purely because she has 20 number ones in one country.

(Thursday 8 June 2023; 22:10)


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Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,856) by Norman from USA

Bill, Mariah's worldwide sales speak for themselves. She might not have been big in the UK, but the UK isn't even the 2nd biggest music market - that would be Japan, where Mariah's their biggest-selling foreign act. She's also big in Asia as a whole - you know, where the vast majority of the world's population is. Sure, it's not Europe, I'll grant you that. But perhaps she's fine without the oonts oonts aficionados? Who's to say?

Would I like something other than a yearly Christmas resurgence, and a couple a high notes on a TikTok and "I see you up there" from a performance? Of course. Need I drag her through the mud to fasten on a badge as a true and non-delusional fan ad nauseum? No.

And other making headlines for horrendous nips and tucks, what current accomplishments do you speak of when lauding your worldwide artist?

All the best.
(Thursday 8 June 2023; 19:20)


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The Weekend collaboration (102,855) by Bobby A from United States

Whatever happened to MC wanting to collaborate with The Weekend? I just wonder how MC would have sounded on the Die For You remix or even on Out of Time.
(Thursday 8 June 2023; 16:08)

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