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The Art of Letting Go (103,770)
by Tevin from USA
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Bill, you're hired. We have to inform Mariah about the management change.
(Monday 16 October 2023; 16:19)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,758)
by Bill from the UK
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I'm sure I'm not alone in having an impending sense of dread, rather than excitement, about the upcoming Christmas concerts. At this point we know the drill. 95% lipped performances with the occasional "eh" barked out, peppered with a couple of verses being "spoken melodically" for good measure. The focus will be on the hair, make up, breasts, and shimmering gown or, heaven forbid, a return to those hideous leotards.
YouTube will be littered with comments from the delusionals saying it's live, she has a cold, she has nothing to prove, she's preserving her voice etc. That last one always gets me lol. What on earth is she preserving her voice for, if not when performing live in concert? I mean, she's been preserving her voice since 1997. It's preserved for heaven's sake.
My advice as Mariah's manager? Cancel the concerts, retire gracefully, and focus on re-releasing back catalogue specials. Start with The Rarities II You (I Lose Control, We're Not Making Love Anymore, There for Me, and Randy's Theme all should have been represented on the original), find and release your infamous demo tape so we can experience what Tommy did in the limo that fateful night, HD the crap out of the Music Box, Daydream (especially London, which I attended), Butterfly, Rainbow and Charmbracelet Tour footage, and please, seek permission from the estate of Prince to release your Glitter-era duet.
Stagger that out over the next few years with "30" releases of the studio albums as their anniversaries hit and everyone will forget about the dreadful performances of the last 10-15 years which are now greatly outweighing the good.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 10:01)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,769)
by Anonymous from USA
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Negativity is contagious as heck. And for all those saying MC should retire, maybe you should take your own advice and retire from here and from MC and go live your happy lives, because you come across bitter and annoying.
(Monday 16 October 2023; 16:16)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,751)
by Bobby A from United States
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Andy, since you have been back something has come over me. Reading your posts have really gotten me think more like you. It's been like honey for my intellect thinking more like you. We should Zoom one Saturday at 7pm your time 3pm my time. I would love to meet you. I hope my deep southern U.S. accent doesn't scare you away. Lol.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 23:27)
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Torn (103,768)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Just go and enjoy the show, however you don't need to spend $1000 for front row. The seats up and off to the side offer better views with less expense. Once you're there, you'll barely care about the whatever she may or may not mime. It's the "Mariah Carey" show so have a great time.
(Monday 16 October 2023; 12:44)
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Torn (103,764)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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Wow, I haven't posted here in years. I see some familiar faces still live here. Is anyone else torn on whether or not to go see Mariah in this upcoming run of shows? On the one hand, I want to see her because I've been a lamb for 25 years. With so many stars dying, there is always a scary thought of what if this is your last chance in the back on my head. On the other hand, her performances are just awful and maddening these days. Those shows last year had me so upset and sad for her. I also hate how she waits until October to publicize the shows. Why not tell us in July or August so that people can get their coins and travel set ahead of time? It's inconsiderate considering that the shows are in the midst of 2 holidays. I had to ask myself could I justify paying up to $1,000 for a front row seat (I'm too old of a lamb to sit in the back) just to hear her sing flat, and lipsynch the same old songs in the same old arrangement? Yet... a part of me still longs to go just for the merch and the chance to be seen by her.
(Monday 16 October 2023; 05:18)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,767)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
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Oooo cool info. Let me research on that. I was 10 when Einstein came out.
(Monday 16 October 2023; 06:11)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,763)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wasn't it reported that the hip hop production team The Runners did a couple of songs on Einstein? I would love to hear those two songs one day. Imagine one of their songs after Side Effects.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 21:05)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,766)
by Stacey from USA
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Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. You nailed it
(Monday 16 October 2023; 05:35)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,758)
by Bill from the UK
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I'm sure I'm not alone in having an impending sense of dread, rather than excitement, about the upcoming Christmas concerts. At this point we know the drill. 95% lipped performances with the occasional "eh" barked out, peppered with a couple of verses being "spoken melodically" for good measure. The focus will be on the hair, make up, breasts, and shimmering gown or, heaven forbid, a return to those hideous leotards.
YouTube will be littered with comments from the delusionals saying it's live, she has a cold, she has nothing to prove, she's preserving her voice etc. That last one always gets me lol. What on earth is she preserving her voice for, if not when performing live in concert? I mean, she's been preserving her voice since 1997. It's preserved for heaven's sake.
My advice as Mariah's manager? Cancel the concerts, retire gracefully, and focus on re-releasing back catalogue specials. Start with The Rarities II You (I Lose Control, We're Not Making Love Anymore, There for Me, and Randy's Theme all should have been represented on the original), find and release your infamous demo tape so we can experience what Tommy did in the limo that fateful night, HD the crap out of the Music Box, Daydream (especially London, which I attended), Butterfly, Rainbow and Charmbracelet Tour footage, and please, seek permission from the estate of Prince to release your Glitter-era duet.
Stagger that out over the next few years with "30" releases of the studio albums as their anniversaries hit and everyone will forget about the dreadful performances of the last 10-15 years which are now greatly outweighing the good.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 10:01)
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It’s A Wrap 12" (103,765)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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Talk about random. Did this just pop up out of nowhere?
(Monday 16 October 2023; 05:19)
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It’s A Wrap 12" (103,742)
by Jamie from UK
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Is a 12" release really necessary or wanted? I get it was popular on TikTok but it's not like it broke the charts. I find Mariah fixates on something these days even when the moment has passed it desperate need for it to be popular. I wish she would fixate on getting herself back to a calm and controlled person again rather than being erratic and not being able to just have a conversation.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 09:22)
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Torn (103,764)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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Wow, I haven't posted here in years. I see some familiar faces still live here. Is anyone else torn on whether or not to go see Mariah in this upcoming run of shows? On the one hand, I want to see her because I've been a lamb for 25 years. With so many stars dying, there is always a scary thought of what if this is your last chance in the back on my head. On the other hand, her performances are just awful and maddening these days. Those shows last year had me so upset and sad for her. I also hate how she waits until October to publicize the shows. Why not tell us in July or August so that people can get their coins and travel set ahead of time? It's inconsiderate considering that the shows are in the midst of 2 holidays. I had to ask myself could I justify paying up to $1,000 for a front row seat (I'm too old of a lamb to sit in the back) just to hear her sing flat, and lipsynch the same old songs in the same old arrangement? Yet... a part of me still longs to go just for the merch and the chance to be seen by her.
(Monday 16 October 2023; 05:18)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,763)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wasn't it reported that the hip hop production team The Runners did a couple of songs on Einstein? I would love to hear those two songs one day. Imagine one of their songs after Side Effects.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 21:05)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,757)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
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Einstein is an album enjoyable more than TEOM. Sure there are many fire records on TEOM but Einstein is in a different layer. The freest Mariah Carey has ever been. Artistry, vocals, looks and having fun. Too bad NC ruined it lol. Anyways, the trade-off are the twins which should be her whole world and not her already established career.
Not because I am a fan but everytime TMB goes in radio - which TMB was labeled as her weakest sounding Number 1 - this really deserved to be on the top. If released now, does not sound dated and listening to it makes me in awe that, she really did dig this vs her peers which was left in the encyclopedia era.
The only thing that really make fans angry is her lack of honesty which I think she owes to us. If she can't do stuff anymore then tell it to us, I think the lambily world can support her than being rapped as stiff like wood baby ala Missy Elliot.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 09:20)
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Gift (103,762)
by Terna from Nigeria
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It must be tiring being you, having to keep jumping in and out of peoples' replies, to keep spilling negativity. You're ripe for another ban.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 19:41)
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Gift (103,730)
by Andrew from the UK
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I had one of those moments, reading your message, when I said "What a gift to scientific research."
(Thursday 12 October 2023; 23:36)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,761)
by Edward from USA
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I coined that term, just in case. Lol.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 19:17)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,760)
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Randy's Theme got me rotfl so bad. Shocks. This made my day.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 16:05)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,760)
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Randy's Theme got me rotfl so bad. Shocks. This made my day.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 16:05)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,758)
by Bill from the UK
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I'm sure I'm not alone in having an impending sense of dread, rather than excitement, about the upcoming Christmas concerts. At this point we know the drill. 95% lipped performances with the occasional "eh" barked out, peppered with a couple of verses being "spoken melodically" for good measure. The focus will be on the hair, make up, breasts, and shimmering gown or, heaven forbid, a return to those hideous leotards.
YouTube will be littered with comments from the delusionals saying it's live, she has a cold, she has nothing to prove, she's preserving her voice etc. That last one always gets me lol. What on earth is she preserving her voice for, if not when performing live in concert? I mean, she's been preserving her voice since 1997. It's preserved for heaven's sake.
My advice as Mariah's manager? Cancel the concerts, retire gracefully, and focus on re-releasing back catalogue specials. Start with The Rarities II You (I Lose Control, We're Not Making Love Anymore, There for Me, and Randy's Theme all should have been represented on the original), find and release your infamous demo tape so we can experience what Tommy did in the limo that fateful night, HD the crap out of the Music Box, Daydream (especially London, which I attended), Butterfly, Rainbow and Charmbracelet Tour footage, and please, seek permission from the estate of Prince to release your Glitter-era duet.
Stagger that out over the next few years with "30" releases of the studio albums as their anniversaries hit and everyone will forget about the dreadful performances of the last 10-15 years which are now greatly outweighing the good.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 10:01)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,759)
by Bobby A from United States
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Bill, where have you been? I opened up my Mariah book just for you. Lol. Great post as always. We are watching MC sink further in the Tyrrhenian Sea. Her mind is in Capri while her body is in New York preparing for 13 facade of Christmas concerts. The four employees who could have a talk with her and get her to stop these concerts are Daniel, Maryann, Trey, and Takeytha. They are participating with her in these concerts that we all know will not make MC sound and look any better this Christmas. How can they not say anything and watch what she doing to herself? I see their checks in their hands as they run to the bank.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 13:29)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,758)
by Bill from the UK
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I'm sure I'm not alone in having an impending sense of dread, rather than excitement, about the upcoming Christmas concerts. At this point we know the drill. 95% lipped performances with the occasional "eh" barked out, peppered with a couple of verses being "spoken melodically" for good measure. The focus will be on the hair, make up, breasts, and shimmering gown or, heaven forbid, a return to those hideous leotards.
YouTube will be littered with comments from the delusionals saying it's live, she has a cold, she has nothing to prove, she's preserving her voice etc. That last one always gets me lol. What on earth is she preserving her voice for, if not when performing live in concert? I mean, she's been preserving her voice since 1997. It's preserved for heaven's sake.
My advice as Mariah's manager? Cancel the concerts, retire gracefully, and focus on re-releasing back catalogue specials. Start with The Rarities II You (I Lose Control, We're Not Making Love Anymore, There for Me, and Randy's Theme all should have been represented on the original), find and release your infamous demo tape so we can experience what Tommy did in the limo that fateful night, HD the crap out of the Music Box, Daydream (especially London, which I attended), Butterfly, Rainbow and Charmbracelet Tour footage, and please, seek permission from the estate of Prince to release your Glitter-era duet.
Stagger that out over the next few years with "30" releases of the studio albums as their anniversaries hit and everyone will forget about the dreadful performances of the last 10-15 years which are now greatly outweighing the good.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 10:01)
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The Art of Letting Go (103,758)
by Bill from the UK
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I'm sure I'm not alone in having an impending sense of dread, rather than excitement, about the upcoming Christmas concerts. At this point we know the drill. 95% lipped performances with the occasional "eh" barked out, peppered with a couple of verses being "spoken melodically" for good measure. The focus will be on the hair, make up, breasts, and shimmering gown or, heaven forbid, a return to those hideous leotards.
YouTube will be littered with comments from the delusionals saying it's live, she has a cold, she has nothing to prove, she's preserving her voice etc. That last one always gets me lol. What on earth is she preserving her voice for, if not when performing live in concert? I mean, she's been preserving her voice since 1997. It's preserved for heaven's sake.
My advice as Mariah's manager? Cancel the concerts, retire gracefully, and focus on re-releasing back catalogue specials. Start with The Rarities II You (I Lose Control, We're Not Making Love Anymore, There for Me, and Randy's Theme all should have been represented on the original), find and release your infamous demo tape so we can experience what Tommy did in the limo that fateful night, HD the crap out of the Music Box, Daydream (especially London, which I attended), Butterfly, Rainbow and Charmbracelet Tour footage, and please, seek permission from the estate of Prince to release your Glitter-era duet.
Stagger that out over the next few years with "30" releases of the studio albums as their anniversaries hit and everyone will forget about the dreadful performances of the last 10-15 years which are now greatly outweighing the good.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 10:01)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,757)
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Einstein is an album enjoyable more than TEOM. Sure there are many fire records on TEOM but Einstein is in a different layer. The freest Mariah Carey has ever been. Artistry, vocals, looks and having fun. Too bad NC ruined it lol. Anyways, the trade-off are the twins which should be her whole world and not her already established career.
Not because I am a fan but everytime TMB goes in radio - which TMB was labeled as her weakest sounding Number 1 - this really deserved to be on the top. If released now, does not sound dated and listening to it makes me in awe that, she really did dig this vs her peers which was left in the encyclopedia era.
The only thing that really make fans angry is her lack of honesty which I think she owes to us. If she can't do stuff anymore then tell it to us, I think the lambily world can support her than being rapped as stiff like wood baby ala Missy Elliot.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 09:20)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,746)
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Lot's of people view E=MC2 has this light fun pop album compared to The Emancipation of Mimi. A fun summery record that you listen to to get into beach or party mode. So songs like Obsessed or Betcha, Hate U, It's a Wrap wouldn't work on it. But I never viewed it in such a light. To me it's one of her most revealing and dark album with bits of light popping up every other song. I mean, Side Effects, Thanks For Nothing, For The Record, Bye Bye and I Wish You Well are not what I would describe as lyrical joy. Einstein is a biting album and lots of people got bit. The cherry on the cake would've been if Eminem got his just desserts also with Obsessed being on the track list.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 15:14)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,756)
by Bobby A from United States
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You are a tough man to flirt with. Lol. We are still cool.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 04:01)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,752)
by Andrew from the UK
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4 hours behind me would put you somewhere around where the Titanic sank. Which is fitting. Check your figures. Plus I got Randy for my deep South. You'll have to come up with something new.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 00:39)
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Questions for JD (103,755)
by Edward from USA
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I thought she would consider surgery at this point, but it's evident the sycophants are running rampant in her circle. They're probably telling her that she sounds fabulous. If the Qatar performance is an indication of what's to come on the Christmas shows, I'm really sad. Hopefully she was having a bad day.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 02:35)
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Questions for JD (103,753)
by Andrew from the UK
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Bro, she can barely get a note out. And her nonsense is getting irritating. Retirement is on the cards. Anyway, enough about Randy.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 00:41)
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Oh my gosh (103,754)
by jaker20 from US
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Some of you are so annoying.
The industry is in a discombobulated state right now. Newer artists Chance the Rapper and Megan Thee Stallion don't have a label. Ariana and Demi Lovato just left their management. Lady Gaga is doing her own thing away from the music industry. Drake is said to be retiring indefinitely. Rihanna is a lingerie and makeup mogul now.
That's the state of things right now. So its natural for Mariah to not be focused on new music other than Christmas.
I do want Mariah to release something in January/February, because that's the time her non-holidays catalog gets a boost. That's how Its A Wrap got viral and BER became a global hit. But that alone did much better than many contemporaries of her. Labels made no difference, why? Because 2023, labels don't move the needled as much as it use to.
These retirement guessing game is so obnoxious.
Mariah literally comes back every year during the holidays because she is big during the season. Any artists would kill to have that kind of career. I can name at least 10 artists who have big names and of high caliber who are doing nothing and they have labels, because they have to grind on stage for grueling tours because they get nothing but coins from the new music they make. Shawn Mendez doesn't seem to be that invested. And so is Justin Bieber. Some of these newer artists would kill to have a career Mariah has, 10-month vacation and 2 months of guaranteed smash. And you want Mariah to retire? Come on now.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 01:51)
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Questions for JD (103,753)
by Andrew from the UK
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Bro, she can barely get a note out. And her nonsense is getting irritating. Retirement is on the cards. Anyway, enough about Randy.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 00:41)
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Questions for JD (103,749)
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I think the theme album she referred to last year has already been recorded, so that eventually will be released. She'll also release "Someone's Ugly Daughter", "The Rarities 2" and "Daydream 30". After that, she should officially retire.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 21:57)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,752)
by Andrew from the UK
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4 hours behind me would put you somewhere around where the Titanic sank. Which is fitting. Check your figures. Plus I got Randy for my deep South. You'll have to come up with something new.
(Sunday 15 October 2023; 00:39)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,751)
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Andy, since you have been back something has come over me. Reading your posts have really gotten me think more like you. It's been like honey for my intellect thinking more like you. We should Zoom one Saturday at 7pm your time 3pm my time. I would love to meet you. I hope my deep southern U.S. accent doesn't scare you away. Lol.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 23:27)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,751)
by Bobby A from United States
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Andy, since you have been back something has come over me. Reading your posts have really gotten me think more like you. It's been like honey for my intellect thinking more like you. We should Zoom one Saturday at 7pm your time 3pm my time. I would love to meet you. I hope my deep southern U.S. accent doesn't scare you away. Lol.
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,750)
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Bobby-A, I am rubbing off on you. And not in the way you might initially have hoped. That is the most frank and honest thing you have said. Freeing, isn't it?
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 22:22)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,750)
by Andrew from the UK
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Bobby-A, I am rubbing off on you. And not in the way you might initially have hoped. That is the most frank and honest thing you have said. Freeing, isn't it?
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 22:22)
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What is wrong with Mariah? (103,743)
by Bobby A from United States
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We will know by the end of the Merry Christmas One and All shows where MC's career will be next year. There is a reason why she doesn't have a recording contract right now. MC knows why she doesn't have a recording contract. No one would have believed in 1997 that the greatest female singer in world would not have a recording contract in 2023. It's sad that she couldn't get a indie or Shanachie recording contract right now. No label executive wants to invest money in her with the current state of her voice. There is talk among label executives about MC's career. We are no longer in an extended break between albums. We are in an official undisclosed album hiatus right now.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 13:01)
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Questions for JD (103,749)
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I think the theme album she referred to last year has already been recorded, so that eventually will be released. She'll also release "Someone's Ugly Daughter", "The Rarities 2" and "Daydream 30". After that, she should officially retire.
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Questions for JD (103,745)
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After she fired him as manager he did have some questionable things to say about her as a professional. Eluding that someone on her level should show up every time like a game day athlete. Ready to go. Around that time a member of Boys II Men also made comments about Mariah's lack of professionalism when it came to her career. I actually believe after almost 25 years she was so over it by 2014 and unmotivated. I think she was subconsciously trying to self sabotage the career she built so that she could have a break. The last break she had was in 2001, and it was a forced break. The self sabotage continued after JD when she fell into the arms of Stella. and the New Years Eve performance was almost the end all for her. Luckily she got her head on straight and signed with Jay Z and got Caution out in a professional (and on time) manner and hit #1 with AIWFCIY. I honestly don't think there is anything left for her to do and that might be showing up as a lack of drive or motivation. One more album is all I'm hoping for but I don't even think that will ever happen.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 15:08)
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It's A Wrap visualizer (103,748)
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MC does not have great management if anyone is managing her career now. She doesn't have someone telling her that I don't think you should be releasing a visualizer for a 14 year old song right now. Everything is just off right now leading up to her biggest time of year.
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It's A Wrap visualizer (103,740)
by Andrew from the UK
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I wish it were possible to unsee things. Pray tell, who is that cartoon woman? It’s certainly not Mariah Carey.
Watch that video and then think back to, say, Anytime You Need A Friend at Proctor's Theatre. Could you ever have imagined, in the most wild of your dreamings, that the Mariah who sang that song on that stage that fateful night would go on to produce utter visual and audio cack such as this?
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 05:53)
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Questions for JD (103,747)
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Good questions. I had to laugh because of "Why did you allow MC to record I Don't and Save The Day?"
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Questions for JD (103,739)
by Bobby A from United States
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Just flipping through my Mariah book looking at all of the managers MC has had in 30 years. The most shocking manager era was when JD became her manager. After 10 years later, I have questions for JD. What happened between you and MC that caused your management deal with MC to end?. Did you have a different direction for MIAM after the Walmart TAOLG leak? Did you ever suggest to MC that she retire in 2013 after the commercial failure of MIAM? What is the music industry saying about MC's lack of vocal ability now? What is your favorite MC collaboration? Finally, why did you allow MC to record I Don't and Save The Day?
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 05:24)
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The Einstein talk had me thinking (103,746)
by T from USA
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Lot's of people view E=MC2 has this light fun pop album compared to The Emancipation of Mimi. A fun summery record that you listen to to get into beach or party mode. So songs like Obsessed or Betcha, Hate U, It's a Wrap wouldn't work on it. But I never viewed it in such a light. To me it's one of her most revealing and dark album with bits of light popping up every other song. I mean, Side Effects, Thanks For Nothing, For The Record, Bye Bye and I Wish You Well are not what I would describe as lyrical joy. Einstein is a biting album and lots of people got bit. The cherry on the cake would've been if Eminem got his just desserts also with Obsessed being on the track list.
(Saturday 14 October 2023; 15:14)
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