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Emotions formula (104,361) by Edward from USA That's what I call a perfectly executed performance. She made it seem so effortless. I used to shove these types of performances in people's faces . Those were the days. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:03) this is a reply to message 104,356

Emotions formula (104,356) by Jamie from UK Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)

We lost the #1 (104,360) by SM from Citizen of the World For the [Billboard Hot] 100. We didn't loose. Final Billboard Global 200 Predictions (chart dated December 9th, 2023) Mariah is #1. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:02) this is a reply to message 104,347

We lost the #1 (104,347) by Pedro from Brazil According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)

We lost the #1 (104,359) by Jamie from UK I'm happy with the success she's had with that song already, let someone else have number 1. It's not like it's not been there already. Christmas songs are so competitive these days, but at least Mariah has a song that's considered one of the last classic Christmas songs. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 13:02) this is a reply to message 104,347

We lost the #1 (104,347) by Pedro from Brazil According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)

Emotions formula (104,358) by Jamie from UK Seems you only like things your way. [You're] usually wrong as seen over and over on this forum. I can't help but think "if it's over" for your opinions. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:59) this is a reply to message 104,353

Emotions formula (104,353) by Terna from Nigeria Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)

If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,357) by Bobby A from United States She has always praised Stevie Wonder. I have a huge Stevie Wonder collection. Everytime that I hear That Girl, I think of MC. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55) this is a reply to message 104,352

If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,352) by Anonymous from USA What are some things that some of you have done because you saw Mariah did or liked? I have a few so I'll go first. When Mariah listed Four Christmases as one of her favorite Holiday movies I had to watch it even though I don't care much for Reese Witherspoon or Vince Vaughn. It was an okay movie. Also I bought her AIWFCIY plushie after I saw hers on her mantle or something like that on one of her social media posts. It was so fetch. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:07)

Emotions formula (104,356) by Jamie from UK Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55) this is a reply to message 104,346

Emotions formula (104,346) by Andrew from the UK Let's remind ourselves what weak certainly does not look like. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:17)

We lost the #1 (104,355) by Terna from Nigeria She'll be #1 next week, Brenda can settle for number 3. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:59) this is a reply to message 104,351

We lost the #1 (104,351) by Edward from USA Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11)

Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,354) by MusicfanJ from Germany Hi Tevin, thanks for your suggested songs by Taylor. I liked them all but "Dear John" is my favourite. I always say I want a jazz album by Mariah which I still do. I think Mariah could also do some country, gospel and retro-soul. She can sing every genre like she never did something else. That's rare. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:29) this is a reply to message 104,161

Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,161) by Tevin from USA Dear John, Back to December and Enchanted are three beautiful songs from Taylor's album Speak Now. Give them a listen. It's no Butterfly album but she does have a decent pen game, even if it slightly sub par to Mariah's. Anyway let me know how you like those three songs, they are what made me a Taylor fan. (Wednesday 22 November 2023; 03:51)

Emotions formula (104,353) by Terna from Nigeria Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12) this is a reply to message 104,348

Emotions formula (104,348) by Anonymous from United States You lost me at "If It's Over" as filler. This is one of the best songs in her catalogue. Aretha did plenty of dark gospel-style breakup songs, see "Chain of Fools", "Think", etc. What a silly criticism of an excellent song. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 01:09)

If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,352) by Anonymous from USA What are some things that some of you have done because you saw Mariah did or liked? I have a few so I'll go first. When Mariah listed Four Christmases as one of her favorite Holiday movies I had to watch it even though I don't care much for Reese Witherspoon or Vince Vaughn. It was an okay movie. Also I bought her AIWFCIY plushie after I saw hers on her mantle or something like that on one of her social media posts. It was so fetch. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:07)

We lost the #1 (104,351) by Edward from USA Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11) this is a reply to message 104,350

We lost the #1 (104,350) by Bobby A from United States Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:45)

We lost the #1 (104,350) by Bobby A from United States Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:45) this is a reply to message 104,349

We lost the #1 (104,349) by Edward from USA If that's the case, I'm happy for her. Let's not forget it's a prediction, even though they're usually right. We still have Saturday to count. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:26)

We lost the #1 (104,349) by Edward from USA If that's the case, I'm happy for her. Let's not forget it's a prediction, even though they're usually right. We still have Saturday to count. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:26) this is a reply to message 104,347

We lost the #1 (104,347) by Pedro from Brazil According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)

Emotions formula (104,348) by Anonymous from United States You lost me at "If It's Over" as filler. This is one of the best songs in her catalogue. Aretha did plenty of dark gospel-style breakup songs, see "Chain of Fools", "Think", etc. What a silly criticism of an excellent song. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 01:09) this is a reply to message 104,335

Emotions formula (104,335) by Terna from Nigeria Let's count the fillers on "Emotions" shall we? 1. "And you don't Remember" - I rarely play this song, it just isn't strong enough and is indeed one of her weaker ballads with a high note thrown in just because. 2. "So Blessed" - I personally love this song, but I also recognize it ain't no classic and quite forgettable. Even Mariah herself was like "oh please which so blessed" when the lambs made her pick an absolute favorite in a versus format a few years back. 3. "You're So Cold" - Oh my, what a waste of space a better song would've occupied and it was 5 whole minutes long, hideous. Skipped every single time. 4. "If it's Over" - Another weak ballad with a high note thrown in. This song actually is sort of disjointed, as its feel doesn't match the lyrics. It is a breakup song that sounds Gospel. With the gospel sound, one expects to hear an uplifting lyric or inspiring one, but this is dark. She got it right with "I am free" and "Anytime you need a friend". This record was also kinda what turned the general public off her high notes because the placements came across as "just because", and with such a display on the title track, the rest should've had it toned way down in the background like on "Can't Let Go". The saving grace for this album are her vocals which are top notch capturing just how powerful her instrument is. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:06)

We lost the #1 (104,347) by Pedro from Brazil According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)

Emotions formula (104,346) by Andrew from the UK Let's remind ourselves what weak certainly does not look like. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:17) this is a reply to message 104,340

Emotions formula (104,340) by Jamie from UK [If it's over] weak. I think not. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:49)

Emotions formula (104,345) by Andrew from the UK Sure, I'll sit down. Put a cushion under your head though so you're comfortable. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:08) this is a reply to message 104,334

Emotions formula (104,334) by Terna from Nigeria "E=MC2 is definitely a better record than The Emancipation of Mimi." I didn't bother reading the rest. Sit down Andrew. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 19:25)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,344) by jaker20 from US I'm responding to your post about you saying "the music industry does not have much control over anything anymore" which is incorrect. And everything you explained contradicted yourself. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:51) this is a reply to message 104,341

Mariah vs Brenda (104,341) by Edward from USA Being triggered is one thing, but basically sabotaging an artist so they won't be number one is a different monster. Brenda's team's making sure she is promoting, she has a new video, she's giving interviews, she's on Tik Tok, she has an EP with different versions of the song. They are just making sure the song has the best chance at hitting the top spot, it's business. Just like Mariah has been doing it for years. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,343) by Edward from USA I think Mariah reaches the top next week for such a small margine. Airplay, streaming and sales are all going to blow up from next week forward, it's a tight race, but Mariah is still ahead. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:25) this is a reply to message 104,339

Mariah vs Brenda (104,339) by Bobby A from United States I understand now. Oh well, it's going to be a victory or a sad day Tuesday. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:47)

Emotions formula (104,342) by Bobby A from United States MC was going for a more polished than over-produced second album. I think that she accomplished that. Tommy probably was not too happy with the end result and album sales. I am sure he told MC after MTV Unplugged that she needs a huge pop album for her third album. Hence, Music Box was created and fulfilled Tommy's desires. Her creativity just got better and better after MB. She better bring it with MC16. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:20) this is a reply to message 104,340

Emotions formula (104,340) by Jamie from UK [If it's over] weak. I think not. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:49)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,341) by Edward from USA Being triggered is one thing, but basically sabotaging an artist so they won't be number one is a different monster. Brenda's team's making sure she is promoting, she has a new video, she's giving interviews, she's on Tik Tok, she has an EP with different versions of the song. They are just making sure the song has the best chance at hitting the top spot, it's business. Just like Mariah has been doing it for years. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51) this is a reply to message 104,337

Mariah vs Brenda (104,337) by jaker20 from US Everyone's jealous. That's all it is. Yes, Mariah's resurgent success has triggered a lot of people, even fans of more current pop girls. Labels, music media, execs, artists, industry people. They are seething. That's how you know that she’s doing something right. Mariah [has] the best career. Having dominated an era. And then after her peak, comes a classic that will outlast everyone. No one has that combo, not Elvis, not The Beatles, not anyone. That's triggered a lot of people, the media, labels, execs, artists, industry people. Because that pushes her career above and beyond. I think with her 18th no.1 15 years ago, she got a bit scared about actually beating [The Beatles]. Everyone's coming after her. I think she was unsure if she wanted it. But after AIWFCIY, she actually realized it's very achievable, and if she does the world won't implode. And if she doesn't, someone else will. I think Taylor will attempt it. But I don't think Mimi cares about her critics anymore. She seems like she's just enjoying all of the icings on the cake. As for Darlene, I was hoping that they would collab for Christmas BPCH. I was so sure it would be a classic. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:17)

Emotions formula (104,340) by Jamie from UK [If it's over] weak. I think not. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:49) this is a reply to message 104,335

Emotions formula (104,335) by Terna from Nigeria Let's count the fillers on "Emotions" shall we? 1. "And you don't Remember" - I rarely play this song, it just isn't strong enough and is indeed one of her weaker ballads with a high note thrown in just because. 2. "So Blessed" - I personally love this song, but I also recognize it ain't no classic and quite forgettable. Even Mariah herself was like "oh please which so blessed" when the lambs made her pick an absolute favorite in a versus format a few years back. 3. "You're So Cold" - Oh my, what a waste of space a better song would've occupied and it was 5 whole minutes long, hideous. Skipped every single time. 4. "If it's Over" - Another weak ballad with a high note thrown in. This song actually is sort of disjointed, as its feel doesn't match the lyrics. It is a breakup song that sounds Gospel. With the gospel sound, one expects to hear an uplifting lyric or inspiring one, but this is dark. She got it right with "I am free" and "Anytime you need a friend". This record was also kinda what turned the general public off her high notes because the placements came across as "just because", and with such a display on the title track, the rest should've had it toned way down in the background like on "Can't Let Go". The saving grace for this album are her vocals which are top notch capturing just how powerful her instrument is. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:06)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,339) by Bobby A from United States I understand now. Oh well, it's going to be a victory or a sad day Tuesday. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:47) this is a reply to message 104,333

Mariah vs Brenda (104,333) by Edward from USA Robert-Anthony, the music industry doesn't have much control over anything anymore. The music industry as we knew it, it's forever gone. They can't influence streaming platforms to block users from playing the music they like, radio just goes along with what's trending or they stay out of the game. Fans have more control, instead of calling like crazy to request, we just go and stream, everything is way different. As I have stated, these two songs have legs of their own, the one that makes it to number one will be based on its own merit and promotional push on big events. AIWFCIY is a pure number 1, people keep buying it after all these years, they keep playing it and streaming it, no gimmicks. If Mariah really wanted, she could break The Beatles' record, just three great collabs with Drake, Ariana and Taylor Swift should take her there. I don't really care for that record though, the way things are, Taylor will eventually top them both. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 17:48)

Emotions formula (104,338) by Jamie from UK Emotions is one of her best albums. Full of soul and maturity. I'd chose this album over the debut any day. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:44) this is a reply to message 104,316

Emotions formula (104,316) by Terna from Nigeria I'll just say this, between those two records, one is on the cusp of being certified Diamond - her third if I might add, while the other still has a long way to go (the numbers never lie). There's a reason why "Vision of Love" and "Love Takes Time" were the songs chosen for the tribute - they are instantly recognizable classics (even in that time), that have stood the test of time, the kind of songs seasoned songwriters would kill to have to their credit, written by a then 19 year old a testament in itself and can only be found on the most stellar debut ever by an artist - Mariah Carey. (Friday 1 December 2023; 21:00)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,337) by jaker20 from US Everyone's jealous. That's all it is. Yes, Mariah's resurgent success has triggered a lot of people, even fans of more current pop girls. Labels, music media, execs, artists, industry people. They are seething. That's how you know that she’s doing something right. Mariah [has] the best career. Having dominated an era. And then after her peak, comes a classic that will outlast everyone. No one has that combo, not Elvis, not The Beatles, not anyone. That's triggered a lot of people, the media, labels, execs, artists, industry people. Because that pushes her career above and beyond. I think with her 18th no.1 15 years ago, she got a bit scared about actually beating [The Beatles]. Everyone's coming after her. I think she was unsure if she wanted it. But after AIWFCIY, she actually realized it's very achievable, and if she does the world won't implode. And if she doesn't, someone else will. I think Taylor will attempt it. But I don't think Mimi cares about her critics anymore. She seems like she's just enjoying all of the icings on the cake. As for Darlene, I was hoping that they would collab for Christmas BPCH. I was so sure it would be a classic. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:17) this is a reply to message 104,329

Mariah vs Brenda (104,329) by Bobby A from United States The music business isn't a sweet easy going industry. Every artist will tell you that including sweet Dolly Parton. Record executives aren't playing nice when they are promoting a song to get it to number #1. There are some underhanded strategies being done behind the scenes to make it happen at the UMG executive offices. If RATCT goes to number #1, a huge television media frenzy will be made about it that week. Just my two cents from Texas. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 14:05)

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