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Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,713) by Bobby A from United States Great post, T. Can you post one about MIAM? The Art Of Letting Go vs. MIAM. I think 100 Percent and Save The Day (before she added the Lauryn Hill sample) and Triumphant were going to be on MIAM. (Wednesday 11 October 2023; 02:23) this is a reply to message 103,699

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

Mariah's X - Israel (103,712) by Bobby A from United States I have never seen MC post anything about horrific or war related events. She did endorse President Barack Obama several times and even wrote a song for him called Bring It On Home. She has never been a social activist. (Wednesday 11 October 2023; 02:15) this is a reply to message 103,707

Mariah's X - Israel (103,707) by Andrew from the UK I'm not one for pathetic showboating on X or other platforms but Mariah has, has she not, posted before about awful things that have happened, such as unlawful killings be the police, etc. Thus, I wonder: where is the message of solidarity with the good people of Israel who have been subjugated to terrorism on a mass scale by fundamentalist terrorist psychopaths? Are the people of Israel not worthy of mention or support? (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 20:58)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,711) by T from USA I guess you do make a point. But I actually think Obsessed, It's a Wrap do match the other juvenile lyrics of other songs on the album, maybe they could be joined by Up Out My Face and Standing O and that would've rounded out Einstein nicely. (UOMF actually references Harvard, it basically writes itself.) The autotune on those songs also would lend some continuity. I just think having TMB, Obsessed and IAW all on one album would make E=MC2 a streaming monster like Daydream. (Wednesday 11 October 2023; 01:53) this is a reply to message 103,708

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,708) by Will from England I don't know, Obsessed was a last minute addition to MOAIA after Bagpipes was released and she wrote it in response specifically. I don't think that sonically, it makes sense for those 4 songs to be on E=MC2 because her voice had changed again by that point (it sounded fuller vs the songs on E), and they just don't flow well with the party atmosphere she had with that album. DFAU etc. worked well for TEOM because there was still a sonic theme going that she was after and they fit well with the rest of the album. Those four just don't go on E. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 22:43)

Merry Christmas eligible for diamond (103,710) by jaker20 from US With the holiday season gearing up, it will be diamond anytime now, her 3rd diamond album. Her debut album has been stuck at 9x platinum for nearly 20 years now. That could potentially be her 4th, making her the first with 4 diamond albums. But she doesn't even bother with that album anymore. But anyway, congrats Mimi. (Wednesday 11 October 2023; 01:21)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,709) by jaker20 from US How tragic that would have been, considering 13+ years later MOAIA is out-streaming MC2, all her albums in fact except Daydream and TEOM. I don't think Obsessed would have helped E=MC2. Obsessed was a hit because it was a lead single. Otherwise, it would have met the same fate as IBLYLT, which I thought was a great single and deserved better promo. (Wednesday 11 October 2023; 01:12) this is a reply to message 103,699

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,708) by Will from England I don't know, Obsessed was a last minute addition to MOAIA after Bagpipes was released and she wrote it in response specifically. I don't think that sonically, it makes sense for those 4 songs to be on E=MC2 because her voice had changed again by that point (it sounded fuller vs the songs on E), and they just don't flow well with the party atmosphere she had with that album. DFAU etc. worked well for TEOM because there was still a sonic theme going that she was after and they fit well with the rest of the album. Those four just don't go on E. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 22:43) this is a reply to message 103,699

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

Mariah's X - Israel (103,707) by Andrew from the UK I'm not one for pathetic showboating on X or other platforms but Mariah has, has she not, posted before about awful things that have happened, such as unlawful killings be the police, etc. Thus, I wonder: where is the message of solidarity with the good people of Israel who have been subjugated to terrorism on a mass scale by fundamentalist terrorist psychopaths? Are the people of Israel not worthy of mention or support? (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 20:58)

Qatar wedding performance (103,706) by Andrew from the UK I'm somewhat confused. Mariah has been pulling the same shit for a decade and everytime I called it out I was a "hater"* etc. Has something changed dramatically? What irks me is Mariah always seems to (struggle to) get to a semi-tone or tone under the key in which the song is. She sounds very out of tune and the pipes quite damaged. She would be better off just lower all tracks and attempting to sing them. If she can't sing them, she should stop taking people's money to watch her stand still and give half-arse performances. But this is all old news: I was writing this dissenting opinion 10 years ago. What's changed to make make it a consensus? *Incidentally, there is nothing wrong with "hate": it is a perfectly valid emotion, but "hater" has now become a pejorative of the Wokerati to dismiss dissenting opinion by labelling the speaker of bad character for having said opinion. Basically, fascism. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 18:07) this is a reply to message 103,700

Qatar wedding performance (103,700) by Edward from USA Some artists have backing tracks to give their voices a break on taxing tours, they are human after all. When you're lipping more than singing and the live parts are subpart, that's a problem. Different from Madonna and Beyonce, Mariah concerts are centered on her voice and it's perfectly ok to expect consistent decent singing. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 02:16)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,705) by T from USA Well we don't really know when Mariah records but it is clear that she saves things for later dates and times. But I have a feeling it was done after she already worked with the Dream on TMB. I think probably early 2009. That's why I wonder if a re-release of Einstein might have been the better way to go (instead of recording a whole album and waiting until the Fall of 2009). Even if the original E=MC2's track list had Obsessed as track 7 to replace Love Story, and It's a Wrap as track 9 instead of Last Kiss, in my opinion it would've fit so well and been the greatest Mimi album ever. (Betcha and Hate U would fit better on the Elusive Chanteuse.) (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 14:14) this is a reply to message 103,704

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,704) by Nick G from Germany You mean Obsessed was already recorded for E=MC2? Makes MOAIA even sadder. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 11:08)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,704) by Nick G from Germany You mean Obsessed was already recorded for E=MC2? Makes MOAIA even sadder. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 11:08) this is a reply to message 103,699

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,703) by Bobby A from United States The guest rap features on E=MC2 are the best out of all her albums. You can't get any tighter than T-Pain, Damian Marley, and Young Jezzy. I would add Gucci Mane for Obsessed remix. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 04:59) this is a reply to message 103,699

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,702) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I love this idea. Those four songs fit so well with E=MC2, especially Obsessed. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 02:25) this is a reply to message 103,699

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

Happy Thanksgiving Canadian Lambs (103,701) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Happy Thanksgiving Canadian Lambs. Hope you’ve gotten some quality time and good food with your loved ones and chosen family. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 02:24)

Qatar wedding performance (103,700) by Edward from USA Some artists have backing tracks to give their voices a break on taxing tours, they are human after all. When you're lipping more than singing and the live parts are subpart, that's a problem. Different from Madonna and Beyonce, Mariah concerts are centered on her voice and it's perfectly ok to expect consistent decent singing. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 02:16) this is a reply to message 103,695

Qatar wedding performance (103,695) by Bobby A from United States MC was having vocal issues long before 2020. I don't think her vocal difficulties are because of Covid-19. She should just sit down with Oprah for a tell all Oprah special. She is not fooling the Lambs or the general public anymore. Will she tell us what is going on with her voice? At the end of the day, she owes her loyal fans a great live performance without lip syncing. (Monday 9 October 2023; 20:42)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

Qatar wedding performance (103,698) by T from USA No more tours. Just one more studio album is all I want for Christmas. And then just strictly focus on anniversary releases like Daydream30, Butterfly30, Rainbow30. Just keep cementing that legacy Mimi, like you've been doing. No need for live singing anymore. I wonder if Mariah secretly attempted the voice repair surgery with no success? (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:23) this is a reply to message 103,697

Qatar wedding performance (103,697) by Lee from USA Then how is she selling out MSG and getting paid for private concerts? Why does the media make a big fuss about her doing anything? (Monday 9 October 2023; 21:28)

Qatar wedding performance (103,697) by Lee from USA Then how is she selling out MSG and getting paid for private concerts? Why does the media make a big fuss about her doing anything? (Monday 9 October 2023; 21:28) this is a reply to message 103,695

Qatar wedding performance (103,695) by Bobby A from United States MC was having vocal issues long before 2020. I don't think her vocal difficulties are because of Covid-19. She should just sit down with Oprah for a tell all Oprah special. She is not fooling the Lambs or the general public anymore. Will she tell us what is going on with her voice? At the end of the day, she owes her loyal fans a great live performance without lip syncing. (Monday 9 October 2023; 20:42)

Qatar (103,696) by Zachariah from Croatia I think she sounded pretty good. (Monday 9 October 2023; 21:20)

Qatar wedding performance (103,695) by Bobby A from United States MC was having vocal issues long before 2020. I don't think her vocal difficulties are because of Covid-19. She should just sit down with Oprah for a tell all Oprah special. She is not fooling the Lambs or the general public anymore. Will she tell us what is going on with her voice? At the end of the day, she owes her loyal fans a great live performance without lip syncing. (Monday 9 October 2023; 20:42) this is a reply to message 103,694

Qatar wedding performance (103,694) by Nicole from US A lambily friend of mine showed me an article regarding how having COVID can change the vocal folds and I didn't believe him first. But I went and searched at google and found a bunch of researches related to vocal fold paralysis with Covid. All I could think of is how Celine got affected with her voice recently and then Mimi having issues with her live voice. I don't know if they both had the virus but we can always have the benefit of the doubt. If that really was the cause of the drastic changes they both are going through, then we're just hoping for a miracle at this point. (Monday 9 October 2023; 19:14)

Qatar wedding performance (103,694) by Nicole from US A lambily friend of mine showed me an article regarding how having COVID can change the vocal folds and I didn't believe him first. But I went and searched at google and found a bunch of researches related to vocal fold paralysis with Covid. All I could think of is how Celine got affected with her voice recently and then Mimi having issues with her live voice. I don't know if they both had the virus but we can always have the benefit of the doubt. If that really was the cause of the drastic changes they both are going through, then we're just hoping for a miracle at this point. (Monday 9 October 2023; 19:14) this is a reply to message 103,688

Qatar wedding performance (103,688) by Brandon from USA I saw the same videos and from what I saw, her Mike was mostly off. The backing track was very prevalent and is making its appearance more and more in her shows these days. Expecting a live show from a "singer" is asking too much? Expecting a singer to sound good is asking too much? No one expects her to sound like 90's Mariah but we do expect her to sound good. (Monday 9 October 2023; 01:56)

Qatar wedding performance (103,693) by Edward from USA I was referring to the LA Pride performance. (Monday 9 October 2023; 16:19) this is a reply to message 103,687

Qatar wedding performance (103,687) by JC from USA Most of what I've seen her mic was on but likely singing over herself. I think she sounds great. My All sounded the best it's sounded in recent years. I'm excited. I feel the lambs have an unrealistic expectation. I noticed this during LA Pride, for example, where I (and many others) felt she sounded amazing, yet lots of hate from the lambily. (Sunday 8 October 2023; 22:52)

Qatar wedding performance (103,692) by Bill from the UK Exactly. It's like Leonardo DiCaprio standing ramrod straight on a film set, mouthing phrases he uttered in films of the past. He's an actor, so he acts. Mariah's a singer, so she should sing. If she can't, come clean and sing in a comfortable range, or retire, and live off your legacy. (Monday 9 October 2023; 16:18) this is a reply to message 103,690

Qatar wedding performance (103,690) by Luke from Slovakia Yeah, the whole My All was lipped. I'm not hating. I'm just concerned about what happened to her voice. And what do you mean by unrealistic expectations? I don't expect her to sing like in 1996. I expect her to at least sing live most of the show. Is that too much to ask? When did we get to the state when even singing live is unrealistic for Mariah. (Monday 9 October 2023; 14:44)

Qatar wedding performance (103,691) by Edward from USA You might have enjoyed that mess from the audience, but to equate any part of it to anything remotely good is being delusional. Her "live" performances weren't always like that way. And no, nobody's expecting 90's vocals. When you're in house and excited, the gimmicks are difficult to discern. In two of the three Christmas shows I've been to, there were notes and parts I swore she had sung live, just to later realize they were playback when I saw the videos my friend had recorded for me. At this point the lipping galore won't stop. I just hope she compensates with great productions and energetic performances. She should practice walking unaided again. At least 30 steps per concert. Standing pretty won't just cut it anymore. I remain positive though, still enjoying MB30. (Monday 9 October 2023; 16:01) this is a reply to message 103,687

Qatar wedding performance (103,687) by JC from USA Most of what I've seen her mic was on but likely singing over herself. I think she sounds great. My All sounded the best it's sounded in recent years. I'm excited. I feel the lambs have an unrealistic expectation. I noticed this during LA Pride, for example, where I (and many others) felt she sounded amazing, yet lots of hate from the lambily. (Sunday 8 October 2023; 22:52)

Qatar wedding performance (103,690) by Luke from Slovakia Yeah, the whole My All was lipped. I'm not hating. I'm just concerned about what happened to her voice. And what do you mean by unrealistic expectations? I don't expect her to sing like in 1996. I expect her to at least sing live most of the show. Is that too much to ask? When did we get to the state when even singing live is unrealistic for Mariah. (Monday 9 October 2023; 14:44) this is a reply to message 103,687

Qatar wedding performance (103,687) by JC from USA Most of what I've seen her mic was on but likely singing over herself. I think she sounds great. My All sounded the best it's sounded in recent years. I'm excited. I feel the lambs have an unrealistic expectation. I noticed this during LA Pride, for example, where I (and many others) felt she sounded amazing, yet lots of hate from the lambily. (Sunday 8 October 2023; 22:52)

Qatar wedding performance (103,689) by Andrew from the UK Define "hate". (Monday 9 October 2023; 14:28) this is a reply to message 103,687

Qatar wedding performance (103,687) by JC from USA Most of what I've seen her mic was on but likely singing over herself. I think she sounds great. My All sounded the best it's sounded in recent years. I'm excited. I feel the lambs have an unrealistic expectation. I noticed this during LA Pride, for example, where I (and many others) felt she sounded amazing, yet lots of hate from the lambily. (Sunday 8 October 2023; 22:52)

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