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Interesting video (114,228) by Chicago Lamb from USA
1989-1998 surely was a love story. We never discuss the songs that Mariah wrote, inspired by her love of Tommy. To be Around You, Now That I Know, Forever, and then in the end Slipping Away, Whenever You Call, Butterfly at the end of their relationship. Alas, the love affair luster wasn't meant to last forever. What biopic consumers really want is the bad stuff, the reasons the relationship could no longer continue: The back-stabbing, betrayal, maniac control and mental spiral.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 13:56)
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Interesting video (114,227) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I also don't like AI videos, "songs", hosts, bands whatever at all. They are still missing a natural view and creative mind of a human being and always will. They just seem fake, it's hard to describe. They may be very "perfect" sometimes but that made them even more artificial. I watched the video and it was boring and nothing new. But the headline will generate some clicks.

Let's watch the Daydream concert in NYC or Tokyo. It will never get boring to me. The live version of "Open Arms" in Rotterdam is always a highlight too. I just wish she would have relessed the whole concert.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 13:47)
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Daydream 30 - reflections (114,226) by Bill from the UK
Okay so. I've had some time with the anniversary edition now and can post my thoughts properly. In terms of general ranking amongst her anniversary releases, Music Box is still, by far, the best. I would rank this as a respectable second. Brace yourself, it's a long read for anyone interested in what some anonymous loser on a Mariah forum thinks.

Part 1 - The Remaster
So the album has been remastered. My first listening experience was on my EarPods so I reserved judgement until I'd listened to it properly on my hi-fi and then my good headphones. Perhaps it is because I have listened to the album some 230,000 times since its release, but the remaster can be jarring at times. Fantasy seems somewhat murky now and is missing the bright vibrancy of the original. The low harmonies in the chorus being pushed forward in the mix, along with the bells being more prominent changes the overall feel of the record. Another noticeable change was with Looking In, and how the guitar was much more pronounced than the gentle background strums in the original. It is now almost in line with the lead vocal which is an odd choice. On the plus side, more vocal nuances are noticeable in tracks like Long Ago and Melt Away, but all told I prefer the original over the remaster. And this isn't me just stating the original because I've spent most of my life with it; the remaster of Rainbow is miles better than the trash output of the original album and is my absolute go-to when I play that album (always skipping Did I Do That of course).

The Amazon intros were okay, but as Jamie said she seemed somewhat spaced out and lethargic in her recollections, didn't really offer any new tidbits or nuggets about the songs, and glossed over half the album by not addressing half of the tracks. So, it's not a "track by track" commentary, more a handful of 30 second soundbites about the main tracks. Would have been nice for the opening and closing statements on the album to be longer and reflect where she was in her life at that point, where her head was at, her career, what she was aiming to achieve, initial concepts versus the final output, how it's aged in her mind, etc., especially as it was recorded with the backdrop of her marriage collapsing.

Part 2 - The Remixes
So the big players are here as expected - Fantasy with ODB as well as the Def Club Mix (not a patch on Dreamlover but a close second), Always Be My Baby with Da Brat, and the Chucky Remix of One Sweet Day, Good to see something completely new and original with the Eric Kupper mix of Underneath the Stars.

Part 3 - The B-sides and Demos
It's a shame there was no surprises like Music Box's Workin' Hard and My Prayer. Instead we have One Night and Slipping Away from The Rarities and nothing else. The acapellas I've already written about, though good to hear an extra 30 seconds of ad libbing that was previously hidden. The writing session demos are excellent, and the real highlight of the project. Would have been absolutely amazing to have this for every track.

Part 4 - The Live Tracks
Here's where I have a mild annoyance. I'm not sure why the MSG concert is a vinyl-exclusive. No reason why it couldn't form part of the digital release. I understand the CD cutting some tracks out to not seep into a third disc, but the digital album can be limitless, so that's a real shame to not have such a fantastic concert released to stream and download. The tracks selected for the digital release (Fantasy and OSD from MSG) were both previously released on singles at the time, as was Forever from Tokyo Dome, and later Underneath the Stats from Tokyo on The Rarities. The real keepers though are Open Arms and ABMB from Rotterdam Ahoy. Fantastic recordings and vocals, but it's annoyed me that the full concert is professionally available to be released (it was filmed too), but remains locked up. I understand keeping Daydream tracks on the anniversary edition, but she did some incredible versions of her other songs during that tour that ought to be put out there.

So yes. Overall I am happy and grateful to see such a wonderful album get the anniversary treatment, but a few marks were missed when compared against Music Box.

I am now hungry for the debut and Emotions to not be ignored and get some treatment very soon (35th/40th) as I have no doubt, especially with the debut, there is a wealth of material to unearth and celebrate.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 13:23)
Interesting video (114,225) by Bobby A from United States
I wonder if MC will ever allow her life story from 1989-1998 to be made into a movie. I am curious about those first 9 years of her career and her marriage to Tommy. She really did have a Princess Di wedding that fell apart so quickly during the course of two eras. Movie titles like The Songbird Supreme or Dear Mariah Carey would totally capture the essence of those years. I wonder what Tommy thinks of the Mariah Carey he sees on TV now. Anyhow I do think he geniunely loved MC and Emilio Estefan said that Tommy was devasted about the break up of their marriage.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 05:38)
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Interesting video (114,224) by Lambi from USA
Firstly, I didn't even acknowledge that you're correct, because it's not a text-to-speech video. I clearly disagreed. There are editing platforms with AI tools that can sequence footage, automate cuts, and speed up post-production. This isn't that.

If this were AI auto story generation, the output would be inconsistent, contextually inaccurate, and dizzying. Instead, there's a clear pre-written monologue carried by a real human voice, not a synthetic TTS engine.

The visuals track the narration with a level of precision that strongly indicates manual clip stitching and editing. There's virtually no evidentiary trace of automated story generation.

My point was broader than this specific video. It's entirely possible to produce an in-depth video essay while still using modern tools to streamline workflow and get your work out. If you want to be effective, you need to know how to scale an online business.

Using technology in production is obviously not the same thing as outsourcing authorship or narration. You're conflating fundamentally different processes, which makes your arguments invalid from the start. [censored]
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 04:35)
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Article: Mariah is giving "Daydream" fans the ultimate surprise (114,223) by Lainsky from Philippines
Only Mariah can do these kinds of releases from her previous works. Out of 33 tracks, only 15 tracks - tracks 7- 21, are the ultimate surprise here for the fans. I love the accapellas and session demos. They sound like they're lullabying me. Lol.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 02:55)
Interesting video (114,222) by jaker20 from US
With every post you're sounding more and more clueless. I get it, I had to explain it slowly to my mom too.

Now you're saying that's how the internet works, automation. Just a prior post you said he did extensive research. Make up your mind.

These content are scraped online fed to AI automation ok, wrapped into AI narration and deepfake thumbnail and sensational headline ok.

And yes that is literally the point, to create them with little effort. see, no buzzword. At least you agree it is automated. Just a prior post you said he went in-depth and put effort into research.

People like you is why these AI content are thriving. I explained it to my mom and how it's hurting the creative industry and he got it in 5 minutes. But you're just going on contracting yourself.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 02:36)
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Daydream 30 (114,221) by Bobby A from United States
Bill, can the Anytime You Need A Friend Boriqua Tribe Mix be exactly the type of acapella track you are talking about?
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 01:18)
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Daydream 30 (114,220) by Jamie from UK
Yeah I noticed that I thought she would have done them all.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 01:09)
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Article: Mariah is giving "Daydream" fans the ultimate surprise (114,219) by TJ from Norway
When they mentioned One Night, I thought it was The Rarities I was reading about.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 01:08)
Daydream 30 (114,218) by Bobby A from United States
I love what MC has given us for Daydream. I just purchased the vinyl and CD. It is the Glitter anniversary that she will be able to give us more gems and surprises with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis helping her. Her vocals are insane on the Glitter album. We should get an announcement some time in August about Glitter. I hope the Glitter anniversary introduces Generation Alpha to 80s post-disco, dance-pop, dance-funk and R&B ballads this fall. Glitter could become MC's Jessie Ware's That. Feels Good or Dua Lipa's Future Nostalgia on the Hot 100 or streaming charts.
(Saturday 18 July 2026; 00:32)
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I am free / Melt away (writing sessions) (114,217) by Stacey from USA
The writing session tracks are the best part. I wish we had something similar for all of Daydream's songs. It really gives great insight into her writing process. Honestly, MB30 had more unreleased material. I'd be lying if I wasn't disappointed. I've heard all these acapellas before with all the EP releases. That said, I love Daydream is getting the anniversary treatment. It is such a beautiful album from beginning to end. Some may argue its perfection. The cover is stunning. I ordered the 2CD set. I am still a sucker for opening up a CD and and reading the liner notes.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 21:35)
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Daydream 30th anniversary (114,216) by Terna from Nigeria
Aww. Thanks. I'm actually listening to the album right now and wow, the sound is superb - remastering updated the sound somewhat. She really went all out for Daydream with the acapellas and especially the focus on "Underneath the stars". I love the sweet acapella version, her vocals are more forward and focused. "Slipping Away" also finally has a home with the rest of the recordings from that era.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 19:54)
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Interesting video (114,215) by Lambi from USA
I don't know. Maybe the fact that he took the time to write a very honest, detailed monologue that voiced what a lot of lambs have been feeling lately, and backed it up with accurate video evidence?

Every video editing software has AI features built in to improve workflow and increase productivity, and every video is going to get routed through some kind of algorithm.

That's literally how the internet and modern platforms work. That's how the tech ecosystem works, and it's how online business scales, so you're not exactly making a very compelling case here.

I think the problem is that you don't really think through your words. You use a few buzzwords like "AI" and "algorithm", assume they prove a point (they don't), and then hit submit.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 19:47)
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Daydream 30 (114,214) by Edward from USA
I'm happy for those of you who are stoked about "Daydream 30". My coins will only go to the remastered album though. Everything else is pretty more of the same to me. At least one unreleased track would've been cool. Hopefully "Glitter 25" offers more enticing stuff.

Mariah's voice on those demos was out of this world. We were truly blessed.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 18:33)
Daydream 30 (114,213) by Dennis from Miami, FL
She commented only a half of the tracks. I wish she shared more. Also there's nothing about Someone's Ugly Daughter.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 15:58)
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I am free / Melt away (writing sessions) (114,212) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I love "I am free" and the writing session is just wonderful. You can really hear the magic in her voice on that one. The tone, it feels like an angel singing. The "Melt away" session sounds so relaxed and soulful. I will be listening on repeat the next days for sure. Daydream forever.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 15:50)
Interesting video (114,211) by jaker20 from US
And stop giving so much value and supporting these types of AI generated content, they are all stolen content scraped off the internet. They hurt real creatives.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 14:35)
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Interesting video (114,210) by jaker20 from US
More like in-depth nonesense because as you said yourself those clips clips have been around, nothing new there, so what type of research are you even going on about. These types of AI generated content with sensational headlines stretched to 30 minutes to play with YT algo has been going around in YouTube for a couple of years now lol.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 14:25)
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Daydream 30 (114,209) by Lambi from USA
I wish they also went deeper into the instrumentation process, where she's humming to Walter, and released that instead. It seems like it's the second stage of writing, where they've already laid the foundation for melodies and harmonies to arise.

I sort of agree with Mariah (she said she had to be convinced to release this). I don't really think these needed to be released either. It just sounds like random gibberish, and all the trolls are going to have a feast extracting soundbites to make her sound even more nonsensical.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 13:11)
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Interesting video (114,208) by Lambi from USA
The cadence and intonation are very much that of a real human voice. The video essay is very clearly an organic effort. Reducing it to "AI-generated" is a bit out of touch.

He absolutely did his research. We should be thankful that somebody finally went in-depth and brought up the elephant in the room. We can sense truth when it's being told, and this guy is doing the Lord's work.

Look at the comments and see how the public is receiving it. We all feel a collective concern. Literally not one person bothered to critique how the video is edited and produced.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 12:51)
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Daydream 30 (114,207) by Bill from the UK
I agree with you on the acapella tracks, especially as they have all simply been vocal stem tracks for these anniversary albums rather than actual acapellas. It seems everyone thinks "no music = acapella", when the original and true definition of an acapella does involve some instrumentation. Usually finger snaps, light keyboards/percussion, and the vocals holding up the main body. One Sweet Day had real acapellas on the single, the UTS "sweet acapella" is also a proper one. Another famous non-Mariah song would be Billy Joel's Longest Time.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 12:38)
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Daydream 30 (114,206) by Jamie from UK
If you have Amazon music she introduces each song and gives a description. She sounds quite sedated but nice to hear her take on each track.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 12:08)
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Daydream (114,205) by nancy from Switzerland
I ordered the 2 CD Version. I like the new cover better than the original one. The vinyl is a bit too expensive because of the content. The remixes have already been released in the past years. I am not the A Cappella type. Sadly the Underneath the Stars remix is not resung. But it's ok. The raw versions are interesting. All in all a bit too expensive. I am happy for the anniversary. But I prefer new material.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 10:36)
Daydream 30 (114,204) by Bill from the UK
Agree, the tracklist looks great though it's a shame to not see the Rotterdam Hero and Emotions included as they were epic, especially Hero where she took the whole bridge to another level and her stratospheric belts.

The Underneath the Stars remix sounds good, I was always a fan of Eric Kupper mixes in the 90s, didn't know he was still knocking around.

I am really really intrigued with the writing sessions, especially with it featuring Walter and Babyface.
(Friday 17 July 2026; 09:42)
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