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Re: Morgan is pathetic / Parasites (98,396) (98,404) by We are lambily from USA
I think you all losing the point of the meaning of a Memoir, it's her recollections and her story. Obviously those people you mentioned didn't mean much to Mariah at all.

I wish she went even harder on those blood sucking vultures, they have fed stories about her since 1990, and this is Mariah finally having enough and I'm so proud of her.
(Wednesday 21 July 2021; 00:41)
Monroe (98,403) by Victoria from USA
Someday, hey hey.
(Wednesday 21 July 2021; 00:34)
Re: Isn't it ironic (98,401) (98,402) by Dennis from Miami, FL
I believe Mariah is just lucky. Glitter could have destroyed her, NYE could have destroyed her. Somehow she made it. Showbiz likes that kind of story.
(Tuesday 20 July 2021; 19:49)
Isn't it ironic (98,401) by T from USA
Isn't it ironic isn't just an Alanis Morissette song. It's the way I view Mariah escaping a potentially career ending, controlling situation with Tommy to only end up with Stella, who one could surmise was more controlling (keeping possession of Mariah's phone so LA Reid couldn't get ahold of her). Stella came this close to ending Mariah's career for good.
(Tuesday 20 July 2021; 13:21)
Re: The elephant in the room (98,399) (98,400) by RibbonB from USA
I hope she's ok, but she could use a Krispy Kreme or two.
(Tuesday 20 July 2021; 03:23)
Re: The elephant in the room (98,388) (98,399) by Edward from USA
Celine, the Keto Queen? I'm dead!
(Tuesday 20 July 2021; 01:12)
Re: Morgan is pathetic / Parasites (98,396) (98,398) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I think she mentioned Morgan because she focused a lot on her childhood and her early years in her career. Morgan had a bigger role to play in how she's shaped as an artist (she has songs alluding to these experiences) and individual and her biracial background experience, which is why it was important to mention him versus mentioning someone like Stella and James who were small bleeps in her career. Another line of thinking for me would be Stella and James they both probably have NDA with Mariah working both ways, so that is probably why she didn't mention them too. Although I would have loved to read about Mariah's current thought on one of her career ending eras which is Stella.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 19:05)
Holliday twine (98,397) by RibbonB from USA
That twine is cute though, but the spool is too tall. It should be like a fat ball ornament. She would gave been genius if she had designed some exclusive wrapping paper, perhaps with her own artwork. She shouldn't cheapen the season, but if she's going to do it, she should really curate a cute limited edition package.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 17:06)
Re: Morgan is pathetic / Parasites (98,391) (98,396) by Bill from the UK
I don't disagree with what you or anyone has said about Morgan, but it might have been better from MC to have not even mentioned it at all. She didn't mention Stella, James P and Walter got a line or two, she could have quite easily written of her troubled upbringing without writing what she did about her siblings and mother.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 14:53)
411 (98,395) by Brad from USA
Honestly, we are going through a pandemic and this guy has no take aways like "the world doesn't really need my viciousness, I'm so not essential". Lots of artists have sets on Lootcrate and frankly, Mariah generally didn't cash in on her notoriety alone in her golden years. Leave her be. Though I might suggest Mariah Cookies over the baker's twine. I like twine and all but. Get the Lemon Drop and Rainbow ones.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 08:40)
Re: The elephant in the room (98,386) (98,394) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
"Not because she was singing with six lungs." I'm done haha.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 05:31)
Re: I miss Stella (98,335) (98,393) by Nikki from usa
If Anthony Burrell were honest he wouldn't have done the show. He was cool when thinking he was the leading man, but when that didn't pan out, he acted like a toddler with a tantrum. I also didn't like him encouraging MC to show her ass for the show. His suggestions were awful and she took them. After NYE his butt was fired. He tried to save face by claiming his contract had simply ended. Anthony was a diva on the show and you certainly don't change a line up prior to a huge event without getting the ok from the boss. You absolutely don't prevent them from leaving. He wasn't the problem, but he added more to them that night. The only thing I understood from all of this is Mariah still wants some dreamlover to rescue her. She doesn't take the lead. She gives the reigns to everyone around her. Mariah wants to be taken care of and that's what this boils down to. That doesn't work when you're the boss. You need to lead and take care of yourself by demanding what you need and don't hire anyone that can't meet those standards.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 05:31)
Re: I miss Stella (98,343) (98,392) by Nikki from usa
Ironically, that's what it was supposed to be and what Carey originally signed up for. However, Stella spent years on producing Love and Hip Hop or whatever that VH1 show is called. It's almost as bad. Once Mariah got on board it turned into Stella's World. A behind the scenes look at her creating songs and putting a tour together could've been interesting. It is originally what everyone tuned in for. It's noticeable how over 4 million people tuned in for the first episode and it dropped by half for the second.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 05:13)
Re: Morgan is pathetic / Parasites (98,361) (98,391) by Nikki from usa
Dude's in his 60's - he should've "made his own way" a while ago. It doesn't matter how he's depicted, he has history of violence. Mariah has a right to speak about her past. The book is about her, not about him. Unlike a tabloid, he actually has to prove it cost him deals, he can't just talk.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 04:59)
Re: American Idol performance (98,374) (98,390) by Nikki from usa
Yes, it was live and beyond proven. She sang the medley three times in front of fans. Three different version were put on YouTube before they were taken down from fans at the event. AI mixed and matched the performances together badly. Carey can't lip sync to save her life and the fact you can't tell means you don't ever know what's live or not.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 04:51)
Re: Vocal decline / elephant in the room (98,386) (98,389) by Yleg from Ukraine
On her early years, she was the voice for sure. But her vocal health (for live perf) needed a lot of rest, hence she was imprisoned to be always vocally ready. It's not being addressed but the Mariah, that Daydream era, existed only once. The rest were sprinkles of what she can do, covered with prerecorded tracks and dodging notes.

We want her to be the amazing vocalist we loved. But she refuses to deliver that, instead she say "I'm a songwriter first." She knows it, that is why she is "The Elusive Chanteuse", Mariah herself can't deliver.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 01:12)
Re: The elephant in the room (98,386) (98,388) by RibbonB from USA
I don't doubt her drinking has probably affected her voice. I was just laughing at your storytelling, like you were a fly on the wall in so many circumstances. All I needed was more dialog. But I also agree with others that she needed vocal training early on and may have trashed her voice early in her career. There are lots of drinkers and smokers who sang well into their older years. I can't believe you're dragging Celine Dion, the Keto queen.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 00:46)
Re: Someones Ugly Daughter's voice (98,380) (98,387) by Bill from the UK
She also went on a massive gruelling tour between Daydream and Butterfly, which many signpost as her last consistent, great, and flawless performance. That said, she had a week's rest in between each stop on the European leg. By the way, I attended the London Daydream tour and it was one of the greatest spectacles I ever beheld. I took it all for granted at the time, but I am so grateful to have seen her at her absolute vocal and commercial peak.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 17:01)
Re: The elephant in the room (98,384) (98,386) by Edward from USA
It would've been, had I said Celine lost hers due to Anorexia, but I didn't. Denying Mariah alcohol abuse in the past is like denying Crapfinity is crap. During her pregnancy, her voice recovered a lot, and not because she was singing with six lungs.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 16:52)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey announces limited-edition Christmas crate (98,381) (98,385) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
It's one of the more refreshing ones in her line. Fresh and clean are the two words that come to mind.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 07:33)
Re: The elephant in the room (98,375) (98,384) by RibbonB from USA
That's some serious fan fiction Edward.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 05:46)
Mariah's vocal decline (98,383) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
It's a confluence of so many things. Her lifestyle, her technique, aging, individual differences, etc. - especially individual differences. I know people in their early 30s who avoid dairy, try to live clean and rest well and yet they still can't sing as well as they did 5-10 years ago. On the other hand, I also know some people who are pushing 50 who live their life to the absolute fullest, indulging in their unhealthy habits and vices frequently, and can still deliver vocally today as they did when they were in their 20s in terms of range and power, just more mature sounding and a tad less agile and fluid.

Mariah's vocal situation is unique, and I feel like that's one of the reasons that make her voice such a fascinating subject, because it does evolve with every release. Of course I would love her to still have the effortless, buttery tone she had in 1995, but I wouldn't want her to be stuck there either, as it was the grit in her more mature, older vocals that lent a stronger sense of conviction and character to many of her songs Butterfly onwards, that she would not have otherwise convincingly pulled off had she sung it with her the ostentatious, less nuanced delivery her voice allowed her to do during her first 5-6 years in the industry.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 05:24)
Re: Someones Ugly Daughter's voice (98,373) (98,382) by Dennis from Miami, FL
Alcohol and weed. Nobody denies that. But do you believe her vocal techniques were healthy from the beginning? I'm sure that apart from what Pat has taught her he has not had any proper vocal training. She had overstressed her vocal cords at the very beginning of her career. I'm sure that is the reason she had not toured until 1993 and all her 90s tours were rather short ones. Remember she laind in one of her interviews that she lost her voice in the late 80s, then she quitted smoking. I'm sure that is why her voice was changing from album to album in the early 90s.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 02:42)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey announces limited-edition Christmas crate (98,379) (98,381) by RibbonB from USA
I need to find and save a bottle of Ribbon. Haven't seen that yet.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 02:38)
Re: Someones Ugly Daughter's voice (98,368) (98,380) by T from USA
That's what I mean, yes the stress could make you loose your voice (see Shania) but Mariah's was more of a damaged quality thing, drugs and alcohol wouldn't have done that so fast after his control was up. (Actually his control lasted up until [Butterfly].) It happened specifically between [Daydream] and [Butterfly]. The only thing she did in between those two was a rock album where she was seriously lashing out with her voice, to keep her sanity. We don't know how much she pushed her voice in the making of that. Maybe that is the reason she will never ever release it.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 01:10)

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