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Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,026) (97,029) by Nikki from usa Just need to add 2 things. Nobody's making any money in this climate and to be perfectly frank, artists rarely made money when it was hot. They've always made money from touring. Labels treat everything like a loan that needs to be paid back. Until it is artists don't see a cent of their money. Labels spend millions promoting artists, but nobody is selling millions anymore. Which brings me to: Mariah isn't losing money creating albums. She gets her advance and the label eats the costs. They attach the cost to whatever she makes and keeps it. Now, artists and labels make money from ads on music videos. The label spends little on Mariah because she's a legacy artist, but they do eventually make their money back on music video ads. Artists today primarily make their money through endorsements and advertising. Mariah made $9 million last year for that UK crisp commercial. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 18:28)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,026) (97,028) by Terna from Nigeria I don't agree at all with your theory. There is a conscious effort by the music industry to make sure Mariah does not tie that Beatles record for 20 Hot 100 #1 singles, talk less of breaking it but we all know for sure she's gonna do just that. If she isn't having a non-Christmas hit song it is mainly as a result of this, or she isn't looking to. Secondly out of all her peers Madonna, Celine, Mary J. Blige, I would take where Mariah is any day in terms of where their careers are currently. What she lacks in touring, ticket sales and those deceptive bundles to sell new albums, she more than makes up for from having 19 number one singles, a massive body of work that keeps on giving and owning her own masters then there's "All I Want For Christmas is you" - she isn't exerting herself going on tour after tour yet smiling to the bank yearly. (Thursday 24 December 2020; 16:48)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,019) (97,027) by Terna from Nigeria Oh wow, you got an exclamation mark in your message! (Thursday 24 December 2020; 16:36)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show, thank you, next (97,018) (97,026) by Geri551 from UK You all need to get prepared to be very disappointed for a very long time because things are going to continue as they are. Making non-Christmas music costs Mariah money. I am sure she will always release non-Christmas material as her artistry is important to her but people need a major dose of reality about Mariah's position in the music industry in 2021. Mariah is a legacy artist 30 years into her career. There is no shame in this, some of you acting like she should be competing with Taylor and Ariana are just absurd, it is like saying Diana Ross should have been competing with Mariah in 1994. Album sales are now non-existent, in the 90s you had the likes of Patti Labelle, Aretha and Chaka Khan getting gold selling albums for an album that didn't even hit the top 50 of the BB200 - now artists are hitting number 1 and not getting sales of 500,000. To complicate matters further, artists of Mariah's longevity are not getting streams. Mariah can't make money from making non-Christmas records. The production of the record, music videos and promotion almost certainly actually costs her money. Hard fact. Lets not pretend Mariah's contemporaries Madonna or Janet or Celine are somehow doing better, for a new album they get one high chart position on the BB200 for opening week by adding a copy of their new album to each ticket sale. The album drops like a rock and they barely get any streaming or radio play. They are greatest hits artists, who stay relevant (and make a lot of money) by touring. That's reality. At this stage Mariah has two options, becoming a greatest hits touring artist (she already is to some extent) or embrace the Christmas queen moniker. With the latter for one month a year it is like it is 1995 again. Janet, Madonna, Celine etc simply cannot compete with that. I suspect her approach will be a combination of the two. She can never compete with Celine (or Madonna) when it comes to ticket sales but the eternal success of Christmas has given her unparalleled platform and will be her ultimate legacy. If people can't get on board with that idea, get ready to become very disenchanted every year! (Thursday 24 December 2020; 14:17)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) (97,025) by Aliya from Canada Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite (Thursday 24 December 2020; 06:53)

TEOM vinyl (97,024) by Bobby A from United States I received my TEOM vinyl today. I received the Gold edition that was only exclusive to Urban Outfitters. Did anybody else receive the Gold edition in place of standard black vinyl that you ordered on MC's website? Actually it is a Silver vinyl edition listed on MC's website. I received the Gold edition. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 18:33)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,020) (97,023) by The Real Deal from USA My Life - Mary J. Blige (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 18:25)

Re: The Rarities special edition 4 LP's (97,016) (97,022) by Bobby A from United States My order came today. But I didn't get the vinyl mat edition that sellers are listing eBay. Does anybody know why? (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 17:13)

Merry Christmas and MC II You (97,021) by Libra Lamb from USA It's wonderful to see Mariah's Christmas albums do so well on the charts. Aside from AIWFCIY being a huge success, the albums seem to do better each year. I have every Christmas song she's released to date and it's just magical, a perfect pairing. I love her version of Sleigh Ride right now. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 14:48)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,019) (97,020) by Libra Lamb from USA I did ask for one album. I picked one that I love every song, from start to finish. I guess it's harder to do for some. Just like I can't pick a favorite Mariah album, it depends on my mood. Memoirs was the most "cohesive " and one of my favorites, but I can't pick just one. Charmbracelet, Butterfly, Daydream, Glitter, E=MC2, it's hard to pick just one. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 14:42)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,017) (97,019) by Lady B from USA I thought you wanted one album, which is hard to answer (and interesting to do so). Listing 5+ or 10+ is easy. Pick one! (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 07:04)

Re: Ryan and Kelly show (97,015) Thank You, Next (97,018) by enwar00 from usa I think some fans don't even care to hear the same ole same ole repeated ramblings. I've been over the memoir peddling and the queen of Christmas shtick this season. I loved Caution and the whole vibe of its rollout, the interviews, the tour, even with Christmas falling in between. Thoroughly enjoyed the 25th anniversary of Merry Christmas, the reissue and AIWFCIY hitting the top spot, what a total celebratory moment. I'm hoping there will continue to be more non-Christmas music in the near and further future. I couldn't care less about a biopic. Of course I'll watch, and hopefully if won't be as cheesy as the Christmas special. Thing is I'd rather hear an album from an artist I love than buy their skin care line. Unless this is just about the money now. Ok so I'll have to listen to the Christmas albums the next couple days to counterbalance this post. On a positive MC30 has been cool, so I still have hope. (Wednesday 23 December 2020; 01:50)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) (97,017) by Terna from Nigeria Too Many to mention, though notable ones include: Boyz II Men - Evolution Joe - My Name is Joe Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill Toni Braxton - Secrets Brandy - Never say never, Full Moon, Human Aaliyah - One in a Million, Aaliyah (I miss her) Monica - The Boy is Mine Alicia keys - Songs in A Minor Angie Stone - Stone Love, Mahogany Soul Whitney Houston - My Love is Your Love Chris Brown - F.A.M.E Beyonce - 4, Lemonade (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 23:16)

Re: The Rarities special edition 4 LP's (97,000) (97,016) by TJ from Norway I believe it's a new version on its way to the stores (not the one who was released in October). Am I wrong? (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 20:08)

Ryan and Kelly show (97,015) by RibbonB from USA I saw Mimi on their show today. This was a rambling interview, where she tried to get in all the same talking points, but they sounded rushed and forced. She didn't answer in short clear points. it got to be difficult for non fans to know what she's talking about, or to care. But anyway, it was nice to see Cha Cha. (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 18:40)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) (97,014) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope & All For You Toni Braxton - Secrets, The Heat & Libra Brandy - Brandy, Never Say Never, Full Moon & Afrodisiac Whitney Houston - I'm Your Baby Tonight & My Love Is Your Love Anita Baker - Rapture SZA - Ctrl Ella Mai - Ella Mai John Legend - Once Again, Evolver King - We Are King Mary J. Blige - My Life, Share My World & The Breakthrough Alicia Keys - The Diary Of Alicia Keys Kali Uchis - Isolation Estelle - Shine (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 17:55)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,012) (97,013) by MusicfanJ from Germany Alicia Keys "The diary of Alicia Keys" Brian McKnight "Anytime" Babyface "Greatest hits" John Legend "Once again" I guess it's more Nu Soul than RnB Lauryn Hill "The miseducation of Lauryn Hill" Leon Bridges "Good thing" another Nu Soul gemacht Neyo "Year of the gentleman" is also a favourite (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 13:07)

Re: The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) (97,012) by Lady B from USA The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 05:02)

Re: Ari on Mimi (97,007) (97,011) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Thank you for pointing out one of the hiccoughs. Although it was unnecessary to help me in my argument, I appreciate the support. Many people in the world hate America and Americans. If only Americans hated donuts. (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 02:19)

The "perfect" R&B album (outside of Mariah's world) (97,010) by Libra Lamb from USA What's your perfect R&B album? I know we love and praise Mariah here, and she embodies perfect R&B, but who else's album do you go to for this fix? Mine is Toni Braxton's The Heat. I never get tired of it. I love Toni. (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 01:52)

Re: Merry Christmas and AIWFC RIAA certifications (96,957) (97,009) by Nikki from usa Most likely because it's an EP. Those aren't considered to be albums. An Extended Play is too short to be an album and too long to be a single. They typically have 6-8 songs on them. Had she sung a few more songs on it than it would most likely be considered a live album. In which case, you'd see it there. It might be a good idea for her to do a live album now. It could be streamed. She could play it on Youtube or a variety of other platforms since views and streaming now count toward the RIAA certifications. The die hards can buy and the regular folk can stream free. (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 01:17)

That trend though (97,008) by Nikki from usa After the MIAM album, there's been an ongoing trend when Mariah releases new music. It's a stand off single that's solely used to promote another project. "Infinity" was to push her residency. "I Don't" was to push her reality show. "Oh Santa" is used to promote her Christmas special. You'll notice when Mariah's doing an actual promotion like she did for her last true singles "#Beautiful" and last year's "AIWFCIY" she begins promo early and does a lot of it. Last year, Mariah was revving up hype at the end of October. She debuted her new versions of the music video and began social media campaigns on November 1. Meanwhile, "Oh Santa" debuted on December 4th as a prelude to her Christmas special debut that same day. Delivering a new song this late literally only gives Mariah 2 weeks of play value before Christmas is over. She's not doing anything else to promote the song and it's not easily found on other platforms. Clearly, this wasn't intended to be a new hit. (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 00:59)

Re: Ari on Mimi (97,005) (97,007) by Lady B from USA "She has, with a few hiccoughs along the way, shown herself to be quite a decently behaved person." She licked a donut at a store and said "I hate Americans, I hate America." (Tuesday 22 December 2020; 00:14)

Re: Ari on Mimi (97,005) (97,006) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines The lack of push from Spotify definitely hurt it. Oh Santa! isn't even on Ari or JHud's featured pages. Some people say that's because it's a Mariah song that's only featuring both artists, but then Rain On Me is a Gaga song featuring Ari and yet it's one of the first tracks you see on Ari's page. Up on Twitter, Reddit and other forums, Ari's fans are also quite disappointed because they know from experience just how accessible her new music usually is due to Spotify's automatic playlisting function. The fact that they had to search for Oh Santa! to play it (many weren't even notified when it dropped) was something new for them. Ari has 70 million listeners on Spotify (a huge chunk of that from the US) and yet the number of listens for the song remain so low especially considering she's arguably the biggest female star in the world right now. Oh well. Guess Mariah should work with The Weeknd or BTS next. (Monday 21 December 2020; 18:45)

Re: Ari on Mimi (97,004) (97,005) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I think Ariana is a pretty cool person. She behaved immensely well in the immediate aftermath and subsequent to fallout of the bombing of Manchester Arena. She has, with a few hiccoughs along the way, shown herself to be quite a decently behaved person. And her voice is extremely unique and beautiful. If Mariah's voice is honey, Ariana's is velvet. Unfortunately, I think most of her songs are boring. How "Positions" stayed atop many a chart for so long baffles me. But like most modern music I "huh" it and forget about it (modern music being mostly unmelodic pap it is easily forgettable). But Ariana is great. Her duet on Over And Over Again with Nathan Sykes is hauntingly beautifully/beautifully haunting. It is, though, alarming, that O Santa! bombed. Featuring Ariana on a song should have sent it skyrocketing. Instead it fizzled and fell. Mariah's inability to get anything but AIWFCIY to chart well unfortunately means she is possibly in the denouement of her career. Not even Ariana - or Santa - can save it now. (Monday 21 December 2020; 16:02)

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