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Biopic battle (97,131)
by Will from Australia
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Biopics are potentially on the horizon for Mariah, Madonna and Whitney. Personally I only like these when done posthumously. Whitney's seems like the real deal with Clive Davis on as a producer. Madonna is directing hers so that could be a mess. Mariah's is talk so far and again she is mentioned as director so it could be a fine mess.
It will be interesting to see how the public respond to them. I'd argue Madonna has the bigger fan base still so it should do well but Whitney being deceased and by the looks of it, a proper production, should perform the best. Anyway, we speculate.
(Friday 15 January 2021; 06:26)
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Re: MC 16 (97,119) (97,130)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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As for using "body of work" or "cohesive" to describe an album that fails to churn out a hit, I don't know. Both terms are almost always used together not just in music but art in general, albeit a little too liberally than needed. I remember Butterfly being praised for its cohesion, #1 hits aside. Conversely, while the through line and supposed unifying aspect of MIAM seems to be that of Mariah dabbling in different incarnations of R&B through the years, I don't hear MIAM being considered cohesive.
So when people call Caution a "cohesive body of work", I don't really think it's meant as an excuse for it not being able to generate a hit. They may just be genuinely appreciating how Mariah managed to make an album that flows smoothly (for better or worse) with a gaggle of producers of differing and distinctive styles, when most other albums from other artists that employ the same approach usually end up with a sound that's scattershot and all over the place. The chances of Mariah ever having even a moderate hit will continue to decrease as time passes. We're gonna have to get used to evaluating her albums not by the hits they put out, but by the quality of the thing as a whole.
Which is why I agree with the part about her going back to the older, more traditional ways of making music. I don't mind a few samples as long as they're tastefully done and actually add value to the song rather than distract from it (still looking at you, Save The Day), but yeah - zero mediocre rap verses would be ideal. If she's gonna collaborate with other artists, then please let it be an actual singing duet. Caution was a step in the right direction in how it showed that she actually knows other producers aside from JD. Low bar, but for Mariah, that's something positive. Since I highly doubt she's gonna sit down with someone and create like dem old days, I just hope she just continues to be open to working with people she hasn't worked with before to at least help push her sound forward.
(Thursday 14 January 2021; 20:24)
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Re: QuestLove Supreme interview Pt. 1 (97,126) (97,129)
by ADAM from USA
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Please describe why you found the interview tragic?
(Thursday 14 January 2021; 20:12)
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Re: QuestLove Supreme interview Pt. 1 (97,127) (97,128)
by Hilton from USA
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Lady B I am like huh, what in the world? Anywho, I truly enjoyed the interview and I love how she asked if they wanted all the back stories that tied into her answers and they were here for it. Loved every second of all the information she spilled. What did you love about the interview?
(Thursday 14 January 2021; 15:40)
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Re: QuestLove Supreme interview Pt. 1 (97,125) (97,127)
by Lady B from USA
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Preach, Hilton. Often the most ignorant speak the loudest.
(Thursday 14 January 2021; 02:19)
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Re: QuestLove Supreme interview Pt. 1 (97,121) (97,126)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I think the interview was tragic on several levels.
(Thursday 14 January 2021; 00:18)
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Re: QuestLove Supreme interview Pt. 1 (97,123) (97,125)
by Hilton from USA
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Interview was excellent. Whew child the responses to the Walter subject in here are alarming. I've never seen so many people who were not there to experience something have so much to say. Ha. Carry on MC.
(Wednesday 13 January 2021; 23:08)
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As not much is going on... (97,124)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I saw a lyrics quiz on Treacle's channel and thought it might be quite fun considering not much is happening now. So I'm gonna post a lyrics quiz. And it is actually quite hard. Do it, don't do it, whatever.
Don't cheat, take time to think hard about the song. It's just for fun, it's not a contest. Name the song and the next line.
1. "Somehow the fire never dies" 2. "I've finally found a man that's true" 3. "But when my back is against the wall" 4. "Your conscience tells you to go" 5. "You count your steps like they're regrets" 6. "You come into my room" 7. "You're too persuasive I can't take it" 8. "Can't predict the coming storm" 9. "And you are every part of me" 10. "You'll come and save my life" 11. "I found a love I can call my own" 12. "A crescent moon began to shine" 13. "Bitterness isn't worth clinging to" 14. "Just like the stars and planets" 15. "But it don't strike me as funny" 16. "Well I'll never pin you down" 17. "I close my eyes so I can be with you" 18. "They have not gained victory over me" 19. "Let it all dissipate" 20. "He's got them pretty little eyes"
(Wednesday 13 January 2021; 19:32)
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Re: QuestLove Supreme interview Pt. 1 (97,121) (97,123)
by The Real Deal from USA
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She spoke highly of Walter. No feud. She alluded that they no longer work together because he may have been under a contract with Sony or with Tommy. Case closed.
(Wednesday 13 January 2021; 18:56)
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QuestLove Supreme part 1 (97,122)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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I throughly enjoyed this interview. I can not wait for the second part. I love the extra commentary, and I love that MC was relaxed, open, and free to speak her thoughts.
(Wednesday 13 January 2021; 17:29)
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QuestLove Supreme interview Pt. 1 (97,121)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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Awesome interview during this podcast and lots of great tidbits. Caution, debut, Walter, etc.
(Wednesday 13 January 2021; 14:21)
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Re: MC 16 (97,119) (97,120)
by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago
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Amen sister!
(Tuesday 12 January 2021; 01:15)
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Re: MC 16 (97,118) (97,119)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I.e. when an album produces no hits, call it a "body of work" and use buzz words like "cohesion". Ugh. Mariah needs to sit at a piano and write some music with musicians who will suggest chord progressions as she sings. No samples, no shite rap, just write music. She used to do it once.
(Monday 11 January 2021; 21:35)
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MC 16 (97,118)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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I will just say this, as long as MC works with people who understand her vision and can help create a great body of work that allows her artistry to shine, I will be satisfied.
(Monday 11 January 2021; 20:05)
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Re: MC16 (97,113) (97,117)
by Todd from Melbourne, Australia
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My favourite mashup is still "Million Reasons" and "WBT" - check it out if you haven't heard it!
(Monday 11 January 2021; 00:33)
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All I Want For Star Trek (97,116)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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You may have to be a bit of a Trekkie to like this but I think it's brilliant.
(Monday 11 January 2021; 00:00)
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Re: MC16 (97,100) (97,115)
by Norman from USA
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Jasmine Sullivan (her new album is pure fiyah) J Balvin Bad Bunny Bieber Ari (legit og single) Dev Hynes NoID Kendrick Lamar H.E.R. Doja Missy & Da Brat for the nostalgia Drake
Honestly, I'd love it if she was featured in a ton of singles so she could saturate the market instead of trying to go for #20. I'd like her to take a page out of most rappers playbooks - be everywhere. Chill on the sniper angle and go shotgun on the charts.
(Sunday 10 January 2021; 07:44)
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The Collaboration with Mimi (97,114)
by Will from Australia
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If Mariah released a whole 12 track album of collaborations who would you want?
Drake Bruno Mars Beyoncé Cardi B The Weeknd Calvin Harris Kayne West Jay Z Blood Orange Kelly Clarkson Britney Spears Post Malone Sam Smith Maroon 5
(Sunday 10 January 2021; 04:33)
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Re: MC16 (97,112) (97,113)
by Will from Australia
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Wow. That's one of the most amazing mashups I've ever heard, thanks for sharing
(Sunday 10 January 2021; 04:21)
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Re: MC16 (97,109) (97,112)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Assume you've heard this then?
(Sunday 10 January 2021; 02:18)
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Re: MC16 (97,106) (97,111)
by Bobby A from United States
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I would love another album where she collaborates with one production team for majority of the album. I would like to see The Sneezingtons and Bruno Mars, Pop and Oak, and Mel and Mus. I mentioned this because Memoirs is really a great album. The Dream is really a brilliant songwriter. Beyonce got him to put his magic touch on the Savage remix. No one can deny that you can hear his melody and lyrics all over that song.
(Sunday 10 January 2021; 01:41)
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Re: Walter (97,107) (97,110)
by Stacey from USA
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Then I guess every employee who stayed on at Sony or producers, writers, etc that continued to work with Sony artists "sided with Tommy". Really? It's a ridiculous argument to make. Mariah parted ways with Sony. She left. If I left my job as a teacher on bad terms, would I expect my teacher's aide to leave with me? If she stayed, would I accuse her of "siding with the school"? Of course not. So just stop. Mariah went one way and Walter A another. Quite honestly it's been how long since MC divorced Tommy? Someone needs to "get over it". Even I don't hold grudges that long. At the end of the day, they both had a hand in creating one of the most classic, timeless Christmas songs ever. Let's celebrate that and drop the pettiness. MC included. Peace out.
(Saturday 9 January 2021; 22:29)
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Re: MC16 (97,105) (97,109)
by B from USA
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I think they could write an amazing ballad together. Bruno's When I Was Your Man, and Mariah's We Belong Together are two of the best ballads of all time.
(Saturday 9 January 2021; 21:14)
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Re: Walter (97,104) (97,108)
by B from USA
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After years of mentioning them she finally worked with them.
(Saturday 9 January 2021; 21:04)
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Re: Walter (97,104) (97,107)
by B from USA
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Go to YouTube and/or Google and look into it. He says she falsely claims she wrote the song by herself, which she's never stated. In 1994 Walter stated Mariah came to him with the lyrics and melody, and they went from there. Yes, she no longer mentions his name but after he sided with Tommy she owes him nothing.
(Saturday 9 January 2021; 21:03)
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