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Re: STD is epic (95,103) (95,117) by Bobby A from United States I understand how you can dislike my interpretation of STD. I love your book S.G.T. I didn't know that was you on the board. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 15:04)

Re: What I really want (95,100) (95,116) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I agree with your sentiments. Putting B-sides, international (non-US) bonus tracks and "fan favourites" will essentially clog up what could be the greatest gift of an album. However, I would love Everything Fades Away (and some others to be available on streaming services). And maybe it might make the American fans finally like it. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 14:52)

Re: First "Vision of Love" video (95,113) (95,115) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I'd like to see the original Anytime You Need A Friend video. For Mariah to mock it whilst filming it, it has to be worth a watch just for the shits and giggles. I'd prefer to see that than Underneath The Stars which I think will mostly just be glamour shots. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 14:41)

Re: Mariah Carey re-issue (95,111) (95,114) by Bobby A from United States Yes. Thank you Bill. I have bought like 12 Wal-Mart Exclusives in the past 6 months. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 14:13)

First "Vision of Love" video (95,113) by Chicago Lamb from USA Mariah says it s not in the vault. Me thinks it is, but she's saving it for another moment. What might that "moment" be? (Saturday 22 August 2020; 13:55)

Re: STD is epic (95,091) (95,112) by MusicfanJ from Germany "The Lauryn Hill sample represents a cry out for change. The ending is MC's plea to us to make change for the betterment of us all." Well said. Somehow I find the song at the end very sad. I like "STD" except JD's short part lol and I think it will be a perfect opener for "The Rarities". Can't wait for the release. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 13:33)

Mariah Carey re-issue (95,111) by Bill from the UK Hi all, the debut album is being re-issued on vinyl on October 2nd. Lucky US fans can buy a translucent green edition exclusive to Walmart. I hope the vinyl is pressed on 180g. This got me thinking. Given The Rarities doesn't have much 1989/1990 content based on what we've seen so far, how cool would it be if accompanying the vinyl release, MC re-issued the album on CD/digitally with all the demos and other material from that time (i.e., All In Your Mind alternative take). If Mariah did that, she would well and truly be one of the most generous and giving of artists, to allow us access to all that stuff and for her to be around to see us all enjoying it. I love her so much. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 10:27)

Re: A grower I guess (95,090) (95,110) by Shezz from Pk Definitely a grower. I was disappointed at first but like every Mariah song I still kept wanting to listen to it and now the hook is totally stuck in my head. The KMS sample is a double edged sword. It distracts you from Mariah’s vocals for sure, should have been a bit more in the background but then it is what makes the song memorable - specially in the bridge. Today I’m glad she took it out of the vault. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 09:27)

Re: There For Me (95,095) (95,109) by Will from Australia I love "There for me:. One of her best rare songs IMO. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 07:19)

Re: STD is epic (95,091) (95,107) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Irrespective of what Mariah is trying to communicate (and, most assuredly, your crayon doodle of an idea is not it), the song is pretty awful. The chorus is In The Mix Part II. And Part I was nauseating enough. This one reminds me of the Mixedish cast and their obnoxious dancing all over again. Seriously, who is this song aimed at? Kids doing Tiktoks? The Fugees sample is absolutely bizarre. It doesn't go with the rest of the song. They seem to have tacked it on to give an otherwise infantile, forgettable song a hook. Why not ask Lauryn Hill to rap? I mean, she's no JD, obvs, but I hear she's pretty good at it. Yet, there is a flash of brilliance: Mariah's light and airy head voice floating over the creeping, atmospheric plonky-piano melody and strings in the second verse. That right there is a great concept for a whole song were it to steadily build in intensity throughout the track. But the moment is lost in the cacophony of everything else that is going on. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 06:21)

Re: He should be banned (95,080) (95,106) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Eddie Eddie Eddie (thank Todd for reminding me of AbFab again), please don't announce that I am not into orgies. With you and Randy now both in New York City I may be willing to make some serious lifestyle choices. Posting criticism of me could be the MCA chapter in "How To Win Friends & Influence People". But mostly people post against me because they don't like the truth. And on the rare occasion that they can tolerate it, they prefer it dressed up with bells on. Which I am a lot better at than I used to be, thank you very much. Posting that there is something wrong with my mental health in such a serious, mob-mentality way is pretty dark but I am quite confident that there is not so I pay it no mind. Besides on any given day I am certain Bobby-A lives where the buses don't go and Lafa-ble is using a VPN up there on the mothership. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 04:49)

Rarities album (95,105) by Bobby A from United States I sure hope track 15 is Reach For The Sky. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 04:32)

Re: Andrew (95,037) (95,104) by Randy from USA JT. This board is meant for everyone that has love for MC. If Andrew criticizes MC, it's because he knows she's capable of more and he wants her to win. Loving someone is not allowing them to run amok recklessly with their talent. Would you handle a crystal meth addict with kid gloves? It's ok that you're eating out of the garbage as long as you're still eating. That's what matters. To say Andrew has mental issues is making a mockery of the mental issue subject. And yes I'm diagnosed bipolar mixed type. But I am an award winning school teacher, a brother, an uncle and a son. I have three degrees, am a published poet and live in NYC. I'm hardly embarrassed. The way I see it, this board is meant for the entire spectrum of sexuality (gay to straight), the entire spectrum of mental health (normal to schizo), the entire spectrum politically (Trump to Sanders). Terna and We Are Lambily irritate the hell out of me with their "Mariah has never done anything wrong; she's never even stepped on an ant." But this is a place for them as they are on that side of the MC fandom spectrum. Andrew and I are on the frustrated side of the MC fandom spectrum. But we're all a family. And none of us are about to leave. The only one who may need to leave is he who does not understand differing opinions. That's you in case I was too subtle. Hey it's a "Subtle Invitation" for you to leave. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 04:03)

Re: STD is epic (95,091) (95,103) by Randy from USA You've got to be kidding me. As an English teacher, I deal with the criticism that we over interpret things. If the heroine has blue curtains in a novel, it doesn't mean she's depressed. If a superhero spills ketchup on his suit while eating a hot dog, it doesn't mean he's about to explode with anger. I love that you hear great moments in the song but to analyze it down to its sections and then relate it to the world's ills today is reaching. Like a rubber band reaching to connect the United States to Great Britain because we miss being under the crown. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 03:52)

Re: Andrew (95,037) (95,102) by Andrew from the United Kingdom If you think this is me being harsh, you really are quite new. I took a quick look at the (very) few messages you have posted, which are either you telling Eric what not to post in the news section, or negative in spirit, or both. All approximately 7 of them. I calculate that in 7 years I have written posts covering about 70 pages - which is about 3% of the entire MCA messageboard. So I sort of feel like one of the regulars at the bar who glances over to see someone nobody's seen before throwing a strop at the bartender. I may get irritated by the other patrons sometimes, I may not like the new music on the jukebox, and, hell, I may even have a fight with the owner now and again. But I love the concept and service, the company of those I banter with and the company of those I bicker with, enough to keep coming back and supporting the place, even, and especially, when it's quiet. And I sure as shit am not going to listen to or tolerate some jumped up little twat who doesn't care enough to grace the pub with his presence all that often acting like he owns the place when he does. Keep readin'. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 03:42)

Re: A grower I guess (95,090) (95,101) by Norman from USA Agreed. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 02:59)

What I really want (95,100) by Edward from USA Tracks I don't want to see on "The Rarities": 01. Everything Fades Away 02. Slipping Away 03. Do You Think Of Me 04. Do You Know Where You're Going To 05. There For Me 06. There Goes My Heart 07. I Know What You Want 08. Miss You 09. Sprung 10. Secret Love 11. Heat 12. 4Real4Real If it was put on a physical CD at some point, I don't want it on "The Rarities". That would leave space for lots of great music from the 90's and the 2000's. "Help Me Make It" wasn't ever released digitally or physically, "Yours" with Justin Timberlake would also be great. "Kick Rocks", "Reach for The Sky", "Rainbow Interlude" full song, "Misty Moon" from that Japanese commercial, the potential to kill us all with lots of a great music is endless. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 02:48)

Re: There For Me (95,096) (95,099) by Bill from the UK Well it's not my favourite either, but it's one of the few songs released that is not available on any album, so thought it would be included in the compilation, for completeness. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 02:45)

Re: There For Me (95,095) (95,098) by enwar00 from usa I think because it kinda sucks. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 02:12)

Re: There For Me (95,096) (95,097) by Bobby A from United States True. I rarely think about it. Jody McBrayer of the Christian group Avalon does not do a better version of it on his solo album. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 01:41)

Re: There For Me (95,095) (95,096) by Hector from Mexico There For Me is horrible. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 01:09)

There For Me (95,095) by Bill from the UK I wonder why There For Me has not been included in The Rarities. Going by the songwriting credits, there is no Carey/Warren/Foster reference to indicate its inclusion. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 00:46)

Re: The Rarities (JPN edition) (95,093) (95,094) by Edward from USA You can't read Japanese? Shame. (Saturday 22 August 2020; 00:09)

The Rarities (JPN edition) (95,093) by cBerr from Canada According to Amazon.jp, the Japanese edition will come with a BluRay disc of the Tokyo Dome show. Does anyone know where one can be ordered aside from auction sites like eBay? Or does anyone know how to adjust the language setting on Amazon's Japan site so I can understand what I am ordering? Thanks. (Friday 21 August 2020; 23:27)

Re: He should be banned (95,080) (95,092) by cBerr from Canada While only the webmaster can speak to what constitutes getting banned, nobody should chalk anyone else's posts up to "mental health issues". We have had multiple users on this message board talk openly about depression during these times of lockdowns and quarantining - so to use the term so nonchalantly is just dangerous and wrong. (Friday 21 August 2020; 22:47)

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