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Album to produce the best videos (95,572) by Will from Australia Still on a video tangent, Caution actually produced 3 pretty watchable videos, which had me thinking which album has produced the best? 1. Butterfly 2. The Emancipation Of Mimi 3. Daydream (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 22:51)

Butterfly turns 23 - my dissertation (95,571) by Randy from USA On this day 23 years ago I unwrapped the cellophane off of this CD in my father's basement and popped it in the disc changer. I was floored. I never before heard an album where every song is a single. Every verse reads like poetry. And every vocal is astounding. Rasp, falsetto, belting and whistles are all used here. My biggest issue with R&B music is artists always sing about romantic love or break ups. This Pop/R&B album includes songs about childhood pain and alienation. It is in one word stunning. I would like to wish a happy anniversary to the best album of all time by ranking and commenting on its tracks: 12. Whenever You Call - Last does not mean least on this one. This is a beautiful love song and I could see myself getting married to it. It's on my Love playlist. 11. Babydoll - This was at the beginning of Timbaland's stuttering beat craze so who better to capture that magic than his partner in crime Missy Elliot. A smooth track and I love her adlibs at the end. 10. Fly Away - I'm a closet lover of club remixes. Butterfly is Daydream's gutter twin and the dance interlude on both albums are very necessary. This gives the album a house cut. And one of the things that makes this album genius is it's ability to mix several genres seamlessly. 9. Fourth of July - Underneath the Stars part two. MC definitely has a way of making the familiar brand new. She also knows how to paint a story. This lyric and concept lasts long after the smoke from fireworks dissipate. 8. The Beautiful Ones - I love MC for doing this song justice. Prince screams on his version. Sisqó and MC wail and that makes the song more realistic. Reviewers hated this cut but I think this beats the original. Also MC never lets songs last this long. It's a slow build to a climax to a death and at almost 7 minutes I always want to relive it again. 7. The Roof - I love the story telling here. I love the sample as well. I've replaced the album cut with the longer rap versions available on the My All/Stay Awhile Maxi CD. 6. Breakdown - Mariah's use of rhythm here is ridiculous. I've replaced the album cut with the longer rap version as well. The only problem is the bird tweet after Fourth of July isn't seamless on that version as on the album's. Only die hards will know about that. 5. Honey - The saddest thing about this is that Puffy's versión should've been the original. I just hate that he removed the strings to make it sound more gutter. Mariah's 12th number one and a song she still performs to this day. I don't love that she's still doing the dance from the boat decades later. I love the two samples. 4. Outside - This is the most gospel song that's not gospel ever recorded. She sings her ass off but the lyric here is one of the things that really helped me with my sexuality. By 1997 people knew gay people but in my large family, I was the only gay person. I have 30 first cousins. Not one of them is openly gay. So I always felt different, alone, not good enough. This song put to music exactly what I felt at the time. 3. Close My Eyes - I saw too much as a child. Without going into specifics, when I was born my mother was 15. My father was 21. MC again put what was in my past into song. I will forever be grateful. This is on my Dark playlist. 2. My All - Only spending one week at number one to be dethroned by The Boy Is Mine for thirteen weeks. I love The Boy Is Mine but vocally, lyrically there is no contest. How does a pop diva sing a bare song over a Spanish guitar with words such as solitude, emblazoned, vividly. Sometimes when I'm listening to this I am still amazed this was a commercial success. And the vocal of the last hook is powerful. I think this songs deserves every bit of the accolades and fanfare of I Will Always Love You, Because You Loved Me, Unbreak My Heart, My Heart Will Go On and Someone Like You. I hate the way she sings it now - feel your body feel your body feel your body. It irritates me to my core. I also live and breathe for the classic club mix and My All/Stay Awhile remixes. This is on my Cry playlist. 1. Butterfly - Something to be said about a song that expresses your feelings about breaking up with your husband who is your boss. This is definitely the way to do it. Logically, sensitively, emotionally. Again MC was showing her vocabulary off with succumb, flourish, unbridled. I wish Sony would have released a commercial single but because Tommy was feeling small dicked and insecure he didn't give it its shot. Honestly to me this should be her signature tune. And what can be said about that vocal. The falsetto that's so sharp and crisp it could cut frozen glass. The stretched out high full voice wails are crazy. And there's a whistle over a ton of layers at the end. There are two great performances of this song. David Letterman and SNL. If you haven't seen them, they are some of the last performances by MC unassisted. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 22:26)

Vinyl Me Please (95,570) by Bobby A from United States The bundles are orderable now. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 22:22)

Re: A list, for Bill (95,567) (95,569) by Bill from the UK Add My All to my honourable mentions list. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 20:25)

Re: A list, for Bill (95,559) (95,567) by Randy from USA The best videos of all time: easily. 1. Honey 2. Heartbreaker 3. Obsessed 4. Someday 5. My All 6. Loverboy 7. Always Be My Baby 8. We Belong Together 9. It's Like That 10. Breakdown 11. Touch My Body (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 18:58)

Re: Tokyo Dome concert (95,556) (95,566) by Bill from the UK I hear the London date was particularly good. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 18:18)

Re: A list, for Bill (95,562) (95,565) by Bill from the UK Actually reading my list, Loverboy was another good "back of car" video now I think of it. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 18:07)

Car videos (95,564) by Anonymous from UK Her worst, by far, is "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life". At least "I Don't" had some sort of storyline and cinematography, and STD is a huge step up from both, albeit boring. What somewhat makes ID/STD understandable, for me, is that she's on the lower end of her career with their release, and so I expect nothing high budget. "Last Night" was her cheapest, most basic and unnecessary (car) video as a relatively current superstar. It was the start of some bad video moves. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 16:12)

Re: A list, for Bill (95,559) (95,563) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa In order, my top 10: 10. Don't Forget About Us (Desert Storm) 9. TGIFY (original version) 8. Heartbreaker (both versions, package deal) 7. Shake It Off 6. Honey 5. Fantasy (BBR) 4. Always Be My Baby 3. The Roof 2. Endless Love (live) 1. My All/Stay Awhile (So So Def) (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 11:57)

Re: A list, for Bill (95,559) (95,562) by Bill from the UK Yay thank you. In no particular order: 1. The Roof 2. Emotions 3. Can't Let Go 4. Make It Happen 5. Loverboy 6. Breakdown 7. All I Want for Christmas Is You (1994 and 2019 colour home footage versions) 8. Fantasy 9. Honey 10. Heartbreaker Honourable mention: Touch My Body, Always Be My Baby, Dreamlover, Anytime You Need a Friend, Vision of Love (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 07:27)

Re: Every song (95,554) (95,561) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Now now Andypants, some of the '10s are OK. MIAMTEC I quite enjoy. It will be, however, the first time I listen to every song on Caution I think. You know, the "cohesive body of work" album. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 06:48)

Article: Fly away: Mariah Carey's Butterfly turns 20 (95,560) by Lainsky from Philippines It has been 23 years since this album came out. Yet, it remains her best work for me and album of all time. The older it gets the more it becomes relevant in my opinion and the more I love it. I have grown to like the tracks I used to skip. Now, I love it entirely. Breakdown and Butterfly remains my top favorite though, which could have easily been gone to No.1s if not for whatever reasons then. Another could have been from this era is the The Roof. These 3 singles plus Honey and My All could be her 5 No.1s from an album. This album could have been also given her 8 consecutive No.1s. Oh well, I was always after the Billboard chart back then. Just memories and could have beens from this "the true" Mariah album. Her masterpiece or the crown of all her albums in my opinion. Today, after 23 years it remains my all time favorite and enjoys listening to it more and more like a wine. We can all simply wish that she could make another something like this. Now that she's 50 and spent 30 years in the music industry, it would be great to see another masterpiece from her after The Rarities. Butterfly is Mariah Carey 23 years ago. An album that represents the real meaning of Mariah Carey today would be awesome. (Wednesday 16 September 2020; 05:52)

A list, for Bill (95,559) by Will from Australia All this talk of car videos, Mariah's ten best videos: 1. Heartbreaker (cartoon Rap version) 2. Touch My Body 3. Fantasy 4. Breakdown 5. We Belong Together 6. All I Want For Christmas Is You 7. #Beautiful 8. It's Like That 9. The Roof 10. Dreamlover (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 23:04)

Gladys and Patti Verzuz (95,558) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa This was epic, the best of the series in my opinion. They gave Mimi a shout out. Listening to the classics and cuts of these two extraordinary women. I had forgotten what this type of music can sound like and what it can do to you. Even lyrically. I would absolutely love for Mariah to take a few pages or a whole book from their career and give us that meaningful soul music that sticks with you for a lifetime. Their music was rarely trendy, it's all so timeless. "If Only You Knew" by Patti, "License To Kill" by Gladys, and countless others. I would love for Mimi to be the new auntie for these kids coming up. (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 21:11)

Sudden weight loss (95,557) by Malcolm from Asia Not to talk about this in a bad taste but I get curious how Mariah does it? Like just last month she's not like that compared to the Save The Day MV and her "TMOMC Unboxing". Though I'm glad that she lost the weight but the procedure of it seems unhealthy and sudden. (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 20:54)

Re: Tokyo Dome concert (95,552) (95,556) by Andrew from the United Kingdom William, what we need to do is find someone who went to one of the European legs of the Daydream World Tour and ask them their opinion on it. But where to start? (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 19:17)

Re: Save The Day music video (95,540) (95,555) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Save The Day video is the perfect video to accompany Save The Day song. They are both completely shit and an embarrassment for an international superstar. O Mariah. What happened to your talent? (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 19:16)

Re: Every song (95,527) (95,554) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "I've decided at one point I will listen to every single song Mariah has recorded (even the shit ones)." So the 90's, 00's (and even the 2010's). (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 19:08)

Re: Save The Day video (95,521) (95,553) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Back up. Stop emasculating Bryan. It is not his place to dictate to Mariah because he has a Y chromosome. Were it so that he was the rich and famous one and she the employee/partner she would not be mocked for following the talent's wishes. A tad sexist. Woke, are we? (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 19:04)

Re: Tokyo Dome concert (95,551) (95,552) by Bill from the UK Far be for me to rain on the parade, but the Tokyo Dome concert is pretty much the album versions of the songs lowered a couple of semitones and lip synced. Without You, Forever, Always Be My Baby, One Sweet Day etc. This is why I would have rather one of the European legs be released on audio instead. But beggars can't be choosers as they say. (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 17:47)

Re: Tokyo Dome concert (95,544) (95,551) by TJ from Norway She should release more concerts on DVD, CD or just digital, and yes, this is one hell of a performance. I just wait for the CB concert from Paris. What a great night that she did tape. (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 16:13)

Re: Bill, in the backseat (95,549) (95,550) by Bill from the UK Okay yes you're right. How could I forget about The Roof. It is quite possibly her best ever video in fact. I stand corrected. (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 13:47)

Bill, in the backseat (95,549) by Jeff from USA Bill, I have to respectfully disagree with you on Emotions being the only "backseat shots" worth watching. What about those gorgeous shots in The Roof? (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 11:23)

Re: Glitter week (95,541) (95,548) by Will from England Might have got no new EP's but we did get all of her albums remastered on vinyl. Hardly nothing. (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 08:26)

TMOM unboxing (95,547) by Bill from the UK Mariah has uploaded a video of her unboxing the memoir. Love the back image and wish that had been the front picture. (Tuesday 15 September 2020; 00:37)

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