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The Oprah interview (95,788) by Terna from Nigeria What an eye opener. I wasn't ready for all the revelations that were made, the way she describes her mother's personality as "beauty and the beast" all wrapped up in one being was just disturbing. The apparent resentment and envy from all 3 just makes me sick to my stomach. This woman has been through hell emotionally, from a very young age. She's never really experienced that stability and security most of us as kids had growing up, it's been a tupsy turvy kinda ride for her. And then there was Tommy a second wave of emotional turmoil and abuse, the way she describes that time in her life, made me realize Mariah could've easily ended up kinda like Britney Spears today with absolutely no soul, nor control over anything to do with her career or even her personal life. What I take from this interview and the few things discussed is that she is a destiny child that apparently had a special calling and so the devil attacked her very early on and is still relentless until this very day, but in as much as all that was happening God was and still is with her. The story about Leontyne Price made me really emotional, but I also realize that even those considered legends that came before her could recognize that this woman is something special, she is indeed the one. Aretha Franklin was another one who saw it. Those words "treated me kind, sweet destiny" resound ever so true, there's a higher power involved when it comes to Mariah Carey. Towards the end of the interview I got an epiphany of some sort - the last line from Whitney Houston's "I didn't know my own strength" is how I feel about Mariah, "I was not built to break, I got to know my own strength". (Sunday 27 September 2020; 01:23)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,785) (95,787) by Edward from USA I must admit I have sinned, I watched the interview, and it was sad, but great interview nonetheless. There are some spoilers, but not enough to ruin the book, just enough to keep us salivating. But I refuse to sin again by listening to any of the snippets, that I won't do. Even if I have to tide myself to a pole, I won't. Reading how many of you think the snippets sound amazing, it's very tempting. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 01:13)

Oprah interview (95,786) by We are lambily from USA I personally loved the interview and it might be her most personal one so far, the reviews for the interview and book have been astonishing. It's obvious that her family have put her through a lot of crap and we shouldn't tolerate stuff just because people are related to us. Mariah and her relationship with her mother is a complex one, she instilled Mariah with the belief that she could succeed at anything while at the same time doing lots of damage towards her. The fact that Mariah came to her mother for support during some of her most difficult moments and that she proceeded to call the police on her doesn't sit well with me. Let's say she had a manic episode, let's not pretend the cops are equipped to deal with those situations. One of the most powerful statements from the book (from what we have seen so far) is "even Mariah Carey couldn't compete with a nameless white woman in distress". Such a powerful statement that is so connected to these times where we see white people calling the cops on black people for absolutely nothing. Let's not forget that this book is not just for lambs, this is a way to clear rumours up, to tell her own story and to free herself from all of her bad experiences. I don't see Mariah as a victim but rather as a fighter. The fact that she has gone through so much and still standing and smiling and creating some of her best works "at least according to me and the critics" says a lot. The fact that she didn't speak on her bipolar disorder gives a strong signal to me that she doesn't think it's the essence of her. I'm so excited for this book and we are getting so much promo. This book will definitely heal Mariah's image in many ways, let's have faith and trust in Mariah. (Sunday 27 September 2020; 01:01)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,780) (95,785) by Bill from the UK I admire your willpower Eddie. I'm a spoiler whore though unfortunately and need to have everything immediately lol. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 21:49)

October 2nd (95,784) by Bobby A from United States Besides new album releases from Bon Jovi, Dolly Parton and William Shatner, and YG, MC may be #1 the following week on the Billboard 200. It would be so nice for this to happen. And just an update with STD, it has been in the top 10 on the Billboard Digital R&B chart since its release. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 21:32)

Rarities liner notes (95,783) by Bill from the UK I hope MC includes both the lyrics and a paragraph about each song as she did for #1 to Crapfinity. I'd love to know why these songs didn't make the cut for their corresponding albums and her thoughts behind them. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 21:26)

Re: Oprah interview high quality link (95,771) (95,782) by MusicfanJ from Germany Thanks Chezz. I watched the whole interview. With her "family" it really makes me sad. I do believe it was good for her to write some things. We are her lambily, and we'll always be. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 19:57)

Cool On You (95,781) by Bobby A from United States This song has some incredible vocals. Google "Cool on you" YouTube to listen. We will have so much to talk about next Friday. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 19:11)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,777) (95,780) by Edward from USA Bill is a life ruiner, he ruins people's lives. I haven't listened to any of the snippets. I want it to feel like when I was 3 and the Butterfly album came out. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 18:34)

Re: Oprah interview high quality link (95,771) (95,779) by RibbonB from USA Sad that she had the hardest time saying if she felt worthy of happiness and success, even now. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 17:20)

Mariah's new teaser (95,778) by Bill from the UK So MC's new teaser trailer for the release of The Rarities she's put up on Insta. She's clearly got HD versions of Emotions and Without You from TOTP. I wonder why these haven't been released yet to her YT channel? I love both performanced, especially Emotions as she was genuinely sick (not 1997 onwards sick) but took the whole song down an octave which was amazing. She did an interview with Lorraine Kelly the following day where she could barely even speak. One week what am I going to do? (Saturday 26 September 2020; 16:41)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,769) (95,777) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I am avoiding song snippets until the album release but [your] post is not making it easy for me Bill. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 16:07)

VH1 / So Graham Norton (95,776) by Andrew from the United Kingdom When I went to see Mariah on So Graham Norton (the old C4 version of his show before it soon switched to the BBC) I remember the two of them discussing that Mariah had recently been voted 2nd best voice of all time behind Freddie Mercury. I am sure it was VH1 and an in-print magazine that did a joint vote but I cannot recall. Neither can I find it on clips of the show. Second place behind Freddie Mercury is probably a just position for Prime Mariah's voice. I could argue that she should be first but Freddie is Freddie. Listen to Love Of My Life if you dislike your heart being in one piece. What I did find on a clip of the show, which I missed all these years, is me: at 06:42, clapping along in a dark tee, with impossibly straight curtained hair. In my defence I was 20 and it was fashionable back then. Well. Ahem. I may have been clinging on for dear life. But I still got laid a lot. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 15:58)

Re: Article: Mariah tells Oprah Winfrey why she wrote her memoir (95,760) (95,775) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Save The Day is an awful video, in my opinion - an opinion which you think I should not express. Rightio. To quote a question you once posed: "What do this tell me about my Mariah devotion?" Well, it suggests, much like your English, it is overzealous and ill-thought-out. You ought not to tell people to "shut up". It can often turn a bark into a bite. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 14:26)

Re: ET rare moments (95,762) (95,774) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain Great. Thanks for sharing. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 13:38)

Oprah interview (95,773) by Anonymous from United States I honestly wasn't a fan of the interview. I thought Oprah spoke to and treated Mariah like she was a little girl. It doesn't seem like Oprah respects Mariah very much, and Mariah seems to go along with it out of deference. I also don't like this idea, promoted in the interview, that negative things that happen to us leave us "irreparably damaged" for the rest of our lives. Mariah's experience growing up sounded absolutely awful, and it was gut wrenching to hear that story about Allison as well as Mariah's experience with those friends calling her racial slurs. However, I've read a few reviews of the memoir, and I get the sense that Mariah and her co-writer portray Mariah as a person who doesn't have much agency, a perpetual victim. And I guess this makes sense because it is, after all, a celebrity memoir. But Mariah will never be able to be a whole human being if she's encouraged to think of herself this way. It's definitely important to seek the help of a psychologist and/or psychiatrist if you're struggling with a psychiatric illness; but at some point, you have to move on from the past. You cannot continue to see yourself as "damaged" or you will never get beyond it. And I say this from personal experience as someone who was given the same bipolar II diagnosis as Mariah and who also spent time in a psychiatric hospital. It's interesting to me that Mariah seems to have edited out the bipolar II diagnosis she previously discussed in 2018. I also really don't get this sudden change in her attitude towards her mother. I have difficulty accepting Mariah's contention that the incident at her mother's house in 2001 and her mother's decision to call the police were some kind of attempt to "overpower" or "control". It's very clear to me that Mariah was having some kind of manic episode and was in a really bad place. I think treating the situation as a mental health emergency was a very valid reaction from a parent. Maybe it was an "overreaction" in retrospect but what was her mother supposed to do? Ignore a cry for help and possibly risk Mariah hurting herself? I get the sense that her co-writer is behind this change. I'm going to remain open-minded and read the memoir, but a lot of this seems like an unnecessary rehashing of things that most fans already know. Still holding out hope for a deep dive into the project "All That Glitters". (Saturday 26 September 2020; 13:35)

Re: MC30 (95,747) (95,772) by Bill from the UK Thanks so much for the kind offer - my bro has text me his password now and I can view it on my iPod so I'm all set, but thanks very much for your message. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 12:22)

Oprah interview high quality link (95,771) by Shezz from Pk Let's hope it stays up long enough. I've just seen the first few minutes, thought I'd share it here in case people are still looking. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 11:22)

Re: The Exoneration of Mimi (95,763) (95,770) by Malcolm from Asia If you'll observe her body language, relieving all the traumas really shakes up her core and you can feel her nerves as she's telling Oprah about what she's been through in the past. It sucks that even until now you can see that she's fragile because of it. I just hope Mariah will reach a place where she can be at peace with her children and be secured for what she is. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 10:58)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,759) (95,769) by Bill from the UK I can't get enough of HWGAA. I am so excited for next week. I am climbing the walls here. And I heard a 10 second clip of Can You Hear Me and it sounds divine. Seems like it would have slotted into the Emotions album perfectly. What a week for us next week will be. What a treat Mariah is giving us with the book and the album arriving days apart. Lord this is too much, thank you thank you thank you. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 08:27)

How you reading the book? (95,768) by Will from Australia How is everyone going about reading the book? I've ordered the hardback from Amazon but I'm nervous it won't arrive on the day so I might have to purchase the paperback too. Is anyone else going to read it alongside listening to the audiobook on Audible? You can sign up for a free trial and they let you keep the book if you cancel. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 07:01)

Re: The Oprah Conversation (95,761) (95,767) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I opted for the audio book too as I think it will be cool to hear Mariah read it. I'll probably get a physical copy at some point too. I'm looking forward to the stories Oprah mentioned behind the songs. The person who wrote the soundtrack to my life talking about how the songs came to be sounds damn good to me. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 05:08)

I'm proud of Mariah (95,766) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada In the interview with Oprah she was real. It was hard to be that raw. You could see it. But she didn't hide. Having come to MCA for many years, I remember many conversations where the topic of trauma came up, I remember compassion being viewed at times as too soft. The thing is trauma is not an easy subject, every person processes it differently. It isn't making an excuse for someone to recognize they've been through trauma. She gave voice to it and I'm glad. Having compassion for someone isn't about giving them a free pass, it is just about being willing to see them as a human being without judgment or anger. She clearly still carries it with her, or some of Oprah's questions would have been easier to answer. I hope compassion is easier to give to Mariah now. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 04:37)

Re: Oprah interview (95,741) (95,765) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I would actually love a Unicorn album by her. But yes, I'm so glad that she is going there with this book. So cathartic. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 02:33)

Re: Mariah and Oprah (95,736) (95,764) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa Yes. I've felt this way for years that she's doing the best she can with the hand when was dealt/unresolved issues and trauma. She so not perfect but amazing and deserving of kindness nonetheless. Music has always been her vehicle to heal, it doesn't always have to make sense to us. I am so happy that she is getting this weight off of her shoulders. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 02:30)

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