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Financial terrorism (109,054)
by TJ from Norway
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Does that mean that Taylor Swift will disappear from the spotlight soon?
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 17:33)
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Financial terrorism (109,044)
by Lambi from USA
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Thank you, darling - I truly appreciate your response. I do try to stay aware of what's happening. I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe Morgan is a plant, and we should be cautious. He's shown time and again that he'll do just about anything for a quick payout.
Mariah is at a stage in her career where her success is not only undeniable - it's powerful. She confirmed a couple of years ago that she owns all of her masters: 86 singles and 15 studio albums, dating back to 1990. That level of ownership is incredibly rare, especially for someone who's not just the voice, but also the writer and producer. She's earning real revenue from her catalog, and that kind of power makes her a threat to certain people.
We've seen a similar pattern before. When Michael Jackson began acquiring ownership of his music - and even the rights to other artists' catalogs - it triggered serious pushback from powerful forces. It wasn't subtle, and it wasn't fair. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah ends up facing similar tactics. It's something we should all be paying close attention to.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:41)
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by Bobby A from United States
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I can't wait to read your post tomorrow about MC's new era.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 17:12)
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by Bill from the UK
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(Thursday 5 June 2025; 07:01)
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Type: Dangerous (109,052)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Hahaha we need to keep Mariah's anxiety low because we know if she thinks something will tank she's abandon and never speak of it again. At this point I want any new music from her good or bad. I think it'll be good because according to reports she scrapped a lot of ideas and started new. I think at this point if she wasn't confident in her album she would just not release anything at all because what does she have to lose. I'm excited I hope the music video is ready to drop with the single and doesn't have a significant delay. I hope we get more news on the album and it has some fresh collaborations. What an exciting time for us.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 17:08)
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Type: Dangerous (109,049)
by Shezz from Pk
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Yes it seemed likely that this was all part of the same video teaser from the car - switching from It's Like That to T:D MC16 to show us she's switching gears (literally) from Celebration of Mimi to her MC16 era. One lead single to another. Wearing the merch. If it is in fact not the real video then she gets A+ for effort for the effort into the rollout.
Let's hope it gets a good response and she doesn't ditch it right out the blocks or worse - call it a buzz single.
At first listen I wasn't quite blown away but it soon becomes a catchy tune you can't get out of your mind. I hope it's just the outro as well. I played it for a friend - who never really liked her but was forced to listen to everything MC and grew to really like her. He said well it's nice but it's no It's Like That. Maybe she needs to work with JD again. I said nooooo. You don't know how long we've waited for her not to. I can't wait to hear it all tomorrow.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 16:30)
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Type: Impatient (109,051)
by Bobby A from United States
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Jamie, I was just thinking the same thing about Walter A. and MC. Hopefully, Lambi can find out for sure. He does respond to social media messages from time to time. If they are on good terms now, it could be possible that he does have some new songs on MC16 to relive their magic again after 28 years.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 16:55)
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Type: Impatient (109,048)
by Jamie from UK
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Why does time go slower when we're waiting for new Mariah music? Not long to go now but feels like forever. Looking forward to hearing it fully for the first time and also hearing everyone's take on it tomorrow. Mariah is really treating us this past month with a mini anniversary release, now an unexpected MC16 and also a Walter produced song, I can't believe I actually just wrote a Walter produced song after all this time. I hope if they met again they were able to bury any past issues and move forward as life is too short.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 16:12)
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by Bobby A from United States
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Lambi, can you find out if all is good with Walter A. and MC now in 2025? I like your paralegal skills and I know you can find out if the two dynamic collaborators are on good terms now. If he has 3-5 songs on MC16, then this era will be her second comeback for sure.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 16:47)
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Financial terrorism (109,044)
by Lambi from USA
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Thank you, darling - I truly appreciate your response. I do try to stay aware of what's happening. I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe Morgan is a plant, and we should be cautious. He's shown time and again that he'll do just about anything for a quick payout.
Mariah is at a stage in her career where her success is not only undeniable - it's powerful. She confirmed a couple of years ago that she owns all of her masters: 86 singles and 15 studio albums, dating back to 1990. That level of ownership is incredibly rare, especially for someone who's not just the voice, but also the writer and producer. She's earning real revenue from her catalog, and that kind of power makes her a threat to certain people.
We've seen a similar pattern before. When Michael Jackson began acquiring ownership of his music - and even the rights to other artists' catalogs - it triggered serious pushback from powerful forces. It wasn't subtle, and it wasn't fair. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah ends up facing similar tactics. It's something we should all be paying close attention to.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:41)
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Type: Dangerous (109,049)
by Shezz from Pk
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Yes it seemed likely that this was all part of the same video teaser from the car - switching from It's Like That to T:D MC16 to show us she's switching gears (literally) from Celebration of Mimi to her MC16 era. One lead single to another. Wearing the merch. If it is in fact not the real video then she gets A+ for effort for the effort into the rollout.
Let's hope it gets a good response and she doesn't ditch it right out the blocks or worse - call it a buzz single.
At first listen I wasn't quite blown away but it soon becomes a catchy tune you can't get out of your mind. I hope it's just the outro as well. I played it for a friend - who never really liked her but was forced to listen to everything MC and grew to really like her. He said well it's nice but it's no It's Like That. Maybe she needs to work with JD again. I said nooooo. You don't know how long we've waited for her not to. I can't wait to hear it all tomorrow.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 16:30)
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Type: Dangerous (109,043)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ok so we have an update haha. Mariah Alerts posted that the snippets released are indeed teaser videos and not the music video. Thank God haha.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:30)
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Type: Impatient (109,048)
by Jamie from UK
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Why does time go slower when we're waiting for new Mariah music? Not long to go now but feels like forever. Looking forward to hearing it fully for the first time and also hearing everyone's take on it tomorrow. Mariah is really treating us this past month with a mini anniversary release, now an unexpected MC16 and also a Walter produced song, I can't believe I actually just wrote a Walter produced song after all this time. I hope if they met again they were able to bury any past issues and move forward as life is too short.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 16:12)
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Type: Dangerous (109,047)
by Bobby A from United States
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Great. I was hoping that was the case. I want a video with a storyline with cliffhanger ending like in ILT. 
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 15:29)
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Type: Dangerous (109,043)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ok so we have an update haha. Mariah Alerts posted that the snippets released are indeed teaser videos and not the music video. Thank God haha.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:30)
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Financial terrorism (109,046)
by Jamie from UK
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Sounds like another conspiracy theory to me.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 14:44)
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Financial terrorism (109,044)
by Lambi from USA
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Thank you, darling - I truly appreciate your response. I do try to stay aware of what's happening. I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe Morgan is a plant, and we should be cautious. He's shown time and again that he'll do just about anything for a quick payout.
Mariah is at a stage in her career where her success is not only undeniable - it's powerful. She confirmed a couple of years ago that she owns all of her masters: 86 singles and 15 studio albums, dating back to 1990. That level of ownership is incredibly rare, especially for someone who's not just the voice, but also the writer and producer. She's earning real revenue from her catalog, and that kind of power makes her a threat to certain people.
We've seen a similar pattern before. When Michael Jackson began acquiring ownership of his music - and even the rights to other artists' catalogs - it triggered serious pushback from powerful forces. It wasn't subtle, and it wasn't fair. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah ends up facing similar tactics. It's something we should all be paying close attention to.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:41)
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Type: Dangerous (109,045)
by Jamie from UK
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Phew lol.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 14:42)
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Type: Dangerous (109,043)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ok so we have an update haha. Mariah Alerts posted that the snippets released are indeed teaser videos and not the music video. Thank God haha.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:30)
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Financial terrorism (109,044)
by Lambi from USA
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Thank you, darling - I truly appreciate your response. I do try to stay aware of what's happening. I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe Morgan is a plant, and we should be cautious. He's shown time and again that he'll do just about anything for a quick payout.
Mariah is at a stage in her career where her success is not only undeniable - it's powerful. She confirmed a couple of years ago that she owns all of her masters: 86 singles and 15 studio albums, dating back to 1990. That level of ownership is incredibly rare, especially for someone who's not just the voice, but also the writer and producer. She's earning real revenue from her catalog, and that kind of power makes her a threat to certain people.
We've seen a similar pattern before. When Michael Jackson began acquiring ownership of his music - and even the rights to other artists' catalogs - it triggered serious pushback from powerful forces. It wasn't subtle, and it wasn't fair. I wouldn't be surprised if Mariah ends up facing similar tactics. It's something we should all be paying close attention to.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:41)
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Financial terrorism (109,030)
by Norman from USA
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I'd totally forgotten this was going on. That you for the recap and keeping tabs on it. Morgan has been on this revenge tour of his for eons. You'd think he'd learn to make his own way in life. No one pays attention to him outside of who he's related to, so he could go unnoticed and unbothered if he chose to. Instead, here he is keeping his name spotlight-adjacent for people to side-eye him. Anyways, I'm excited for the new song.
(Wednesday 4 June 2025; 21:28)
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Type: Dangerous (109,043)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ok so we have an update haha. Mariah Alerts posted that the snippets released are indeed teaser videos and not the music video. Thank God haha.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:30)
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Type: Dangerous (109,042)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I didn't want to be a negative Nancy but I agree with you both. Hahah I absolutely do not like the last teaser. It seems very low budget. No indication of a story line, and absolutely do not like the outfit hahah. Having "Type: Dangerous" written on her tank top is meh. So I hope it's a teaser but not the actual video. Also the last audio I hope is an outro because it's too mellow and I was hoping it'll be more of a party starter like ILT. Will see tomorrow what it's like. At least she has a video already ready for her single release.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:24)
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Type: Dangerous (109,042)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I didn't want to be a negative Nancy but I agree with you both. Hahah I absolutely do not like the last teaser. It seems very low budget. No indication of a story line, and absolutely do not like the outfit hahah. Having "Type: Dangerous" written on her tank top is meh. So I hope it's a teaser but not the actual video. Also the last audio I hope is an outro because it's too mellow and I was hoping it'll be more of a party starter like ILT. Will see tomorrow what it's like. At least she has a video already ready for her single release.
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Type: Dangerous (109,036)
by Shezz from Pk
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Haha that's exactly what I thought. Still hopeful for the song. I hope this is just a teaser made for the song and not the actual video but that's highly doubtful.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 04:47)
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New music (109,041)
by Lambi from USA
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Honestly, I agree. This feels like déjà vu - very reminiscent of when Infinity and GTFO dropped. It seems like Mariah just needed to put something out. From that leaked audio, the melody isn't really hitting. But I genuinely hope I'm wrong and end up eating my words. I can't make a full judgment until I hear the entire track. Even if it turns out to be just okay and not the standout from the album, I'm truly just happy she's making music again - and that she seems excited about her career.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 13:03)
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New music (109,039)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I'm so excited for new music, the wait has been long. I like the snippets, but I don't really feel it as a single, feel it could be played at a lounge, it feels more like background music to create a vibe, so my hopes for another hit is not great. But what I have read about people's music habits, is that a lot of streaming use is as background music, so maybe there's hope.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 12:00)
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Article: Mariah announces "MC16" album coming this summer (109,040)
by Bobby A from United States
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Jack Antonoff's production credits are impressive. I want to hear what the two have created. I am sure what Sabrina Capenter, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, and Sza have released in the past two years caught MC's attention. A sharper genre-blending sound is exactly what's happening on the pop charts these days.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 12:20)
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Article: Mariah announces "MC16" album coming this summer (109,035)
by Tevin from USA
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I can't wait to hear this album. To think that Mariah may have finally listened to her fans and she is collaborating with new people, producers and singers, while also venturing into new genres.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 04:08)
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New music (109,039)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I'm so excited for new music, the wait has been long. I like the snippets, but I don't really feel it as a single, feel it could be played at a lounge, it feels more like background music to create a vibe, so my hopes for another hit is not great. But what I have read about people's music habits, is that a lot of streaming use is as background music, so maybe there's hope.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 12:00)
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Type: Dangerous (109,038)
by Jamie from UK
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Haha yes I thought so too. Those shorts are a no no. But let’s hope there is a better video.
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Type: Dangerous (109,032)
by jaker20 from US
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That video preview is giving I Don't 2.0 budget, no real story concept and Mariah touching herself. So I hope the music is at least a bop. I miss the Mariah's video collabs with Brett Ratner.
(Wednesday 4 June 2025; 22:09)
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Bill (109,037)
by Bill from the UK
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Bill (109,003)
by Edward from USA
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Some people seriously need to get off their high horse. Bill is an appreciated member of this board. When he stepped away for a while, a lot of us genuinely missed him.
A bunch of us have been here for over a decade. We've supported Mariah through her ups and downs, bought the music, defended her when it counted, and yes, we've also kept it real when needed. We've seen plenty of people come and go, showing up with loud opinions and disappearing just as fast. Some may not like what Bill said, but no one here gets to question his or anyone else's place fandom.
If for some of you the idea of being a fan means clapping for everything and pretending everything's perfect all the time, that's not what this board is about. And if hearing a different opinion is too much for you, you might want to grab a helmet, it's 2025.
I've said it before: one of the reasons this board has lasted over 20 years is because it's always allowed for different opinions. Not just blind praise, but real talk too. That's what keeps it interesting. Every time this place turns into an echo chamber, it just dies out.
And yeah, sometimes we get frustrated and show a little tough love. But that's only because we know what Mariah is capable of. That doesn't mean we don't love her or support her any less.
I actually appreciate reading different opinions, even ones I don't agree with. That back and forth is what makes this board work. It's not a fan club where everyone's forced to say the same thing.
Bill, you've been part of this board for years, and most of us really value what you bring. Don't even think about disappearing.
(Tuesday 3 June 2025; 19:46)
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Type: Dangerous (109,036)
by Shezz from Pk
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Haha that's exactly what I thought. Still hopeful for the song. I hope this is just a teaser made for the song and not the actual video but that's highly doubtful.
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Type: Dangerous (109,032)
by jaker20 from US
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That video preview is giving I Don't 2.0 budget, no real story concept and Mariah touching herself. So I hope the music is at least a bop. I miss the Mariah's video collabs with Brett Ratner.
(Wednesday 4 June 2025; 22:09)
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Article: Mariah announces "MC16" album coming this summer (109,035)
by Tevin from USA
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I can't wait to hear this album. To think that Mariah may have finally listened to her fans and she is collaborating with new people, producers and singers, while also venturing into new genres.
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Article: Mariah announces "MC16" album coming this summer (109,034)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Wow finally a summer album. I’m pumped. It says she worked with Jack Antanoff who is a regular Taylor and Sabrina collaborator. I can’t wait to get more info on the album.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 02:38)
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Article: Mariah announces "MC16" album coming this summer (109,034)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Wow finally a summer album. I’m pumped. It says she worked with Jack Antanoff who is a regular Taylor and Sabrina collaborator. I can’t wait to get more info on the album.
(Thursday 5 June 2025; 02:38)
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Type: Dangerous (109,033)
by Lambi from USA
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Honestly yeah I'm much more amazed at how Mariah manages to actually stay eternally 12. She hit 35 and was like yup we're staying at this age.
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Sounds promising. She looks amazing and sexy in the promo video. I’m excited and no more snippets. Lol I want to discover the song in its full glory on 6/6.
(Wednesday 4 June 2025; 17:23)
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Type: Dangerous (109,032)
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That video preview is giving I Don't 2.0 budget, no real story concept and Mariah touching herself. So I hope the music is at least a bop. I miss the Mariah's video collabs with Brett Ratner.
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Type: Dangerous (109,031)
by Norman from USA
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100% agree. I'm cautiously optimistic and thankful we're getting something new with a good vibe and good production. "I came to have a party..."
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Sounds promising. She looks amazing and sexy in the promo video. I’m excited and no more snippets. Lol I want to discover the song in its full glory on 6/6.
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Financial terrorism (109,030)
by Norman from USA
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I'd totally forgotten this was going on. That you for the recap and keeping tabs on it. Morgan has been on this revenge tour of his for eons. You'd think he'd learn to make his own way in life. No one pays attention to him outside of who he's related to, so he could go unnoticed and unbothered if he chose to. Instead, here he is keeping his name spotlight-adjacent for people to side-eye him. Anyways, I'm excited for the new song.
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Financial terrorism (109,017)
by Lambi from USA
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Anyway guys, here is the full Morgan case. I know most are into the music here and probably don't care. You can just scroll away. But I pay attention to lawsuits now after learning about the financial terrorism they do to big stars. I studied a bit of law as well. I read and simplified it so you don't have to.
1. Morgan Carey sues Mariah and her publisher, co-writer, and Andy Cohen's book label for defamation (saying false, harmful things) in her memoir.
2. The court drops the case against the publisher, co-writer, and Andy Cohen.
3. The court also drops most of the case against Mariah, but allows two statements from the book to go forward.
4. The judge gives Mariah 20 days to respond.
5. Mariah files her answer, but it isn't signed correctly (not "verified").
6. Morgan asks the court to: • Declare Mariah in default (automatic loss), • Give him a win (summary judgment), • Throw out her defenses and counterclaim.
7. On April 12, 2024, the court rules: • No default - Mariah's answer is okay enough. • No early win - Morgan has to prove his case at trial. • Most of Mariah's defenses stay, except one (statute of limitations).
8. Now the case will go to trial to decide: • Were Mariah's statements true or false? • Did she say them on purpose to hurt Morgan?
Stay tuned for the next episode of Judge Judy.
(Wednesday 4 June 2025; 12:45)
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